Despite it's rocky start in the Land of the Rising Sun, the Atlus-published, From Software-developed Demon's Souls shifted over 150K copies in October, outselling the PS3 SKUs of high profile games Brtual Legend, Tekken 6 and Borderlands. The 'Little Engine that Could' isn't done either - analysts are predicting the game will continue to sell well, with up to a quarter million units sold by the end of 2009.
Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.
After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.
What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?
I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.
In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed
Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already
And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time
Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.
Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.
It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems
You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years
Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.
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Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.
I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.
I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.
The Soulsborne games and the Souls-like genre is touted as the golden standard of gaming skill - but are they actually hard, or just badly designed?
No they're not. I would argue that they're almost perfectly designed. It's hard to strike a good balance of "actual" difficulty (not artificial difficulty like most games) and fairness. Dark Souls is very fair, it just takes trial and error to figure things out. Which is a wonderful thing. Brings me back to the NES days of gaming, where difficulty kept you coming back to try and get over those hurdles. Most games just bump up enemy HP and the damage they deal for difficulty settings. With Dark Souls, it's all about formulating a plan. Taking in what you see from enemies, and how they behave. And in the end, becoming a better player than when you first attempted that difficult boss/enemy you just couldn't get past before.
This website is full of Gaming "Churnalists" meaning they churn out copious amounts of trash. Their moto is Quanity over quality. The drones that work there constantly are throwing shit at the wall hoping that something... ANYTHING sticks so they can get their clicks. It doesn't even matter if they agree with what they're writing or not. They think of topics and just churn out trash. The website is garbage. No one believes that the souls games are bad design... NO ONE. Even people that hate the games know that they're greatly designed, but the games are just not for them.
This topic was one of the many chosen by the Editor who picked someone to write it, whether the writer believed it or not. It's like performing on a 'debate' stage. Whether you're 'for' something or 'against'. You just write your argument accordingly. THIS is trash journalism. THIS WEBSITE IS TRASH.
I bet the guys who run this website are huge GaaS supporters who only play Destiny, The devision and the like because they like the challenge, namely bullet sponge enemies and Raid bosses with 1 billion HP that take hrs to kill, you know cause its challenging.
Same when I think gta model has a bad game design.. Each his own, gotta respect that!
It took me years to get it. I gave up so many times. But when it finally clicked, the From Software games starting with Demon's Souls became among the greatest gaming experiences I've had in over 35 years as a dedicated gamer. Bloodborne is now one of my all-time favorite games. The only time the phrase "bad design" could be associated with these games is in the context of actual jank. You know, those moments a visceral attack doesn't work because your opponent is on a staircase, or when you're backing away from an enemy and get caught on a bit of terrain that definitely shouldn't have stopped you. But those minor quibbles are completely forgiven in the context of games that are otherwise masterpieces. To condemn the entire genre as "bad game design" is, in my opinion, either ignorant or intentionally controversial. I don't like to bash opinion pieces outright, but c'mon, that headline...
Excellent comparison. It does feel "NES hard". Dark Souls also has built in safety valves for the difficulty. Summons and especially DS1, a mage was capable of cake walking thru some boss fights, less so in later titles.
Basically, when I first played Demon's Souls, I had to re train my brain for this style gameplay. The gameplay that essentially says "you are suppose to loose your first few times fighting a boss". I remember writing a review on Gamespot(prolly still there) about how unfair DeS was and how it was artificially hard, and to some extent it was. With a guide, it became much easier but imagine playing a blind playthru of DeS in 2009...talk about tough.
The thing they got better at is more bonfires closer to bosses. It's not really good game design for the player to feel frustrated fighting a boss, not because of the boss, but the run up to it. It creates a sense of monotony and combat feels like a chore rather than a feature. Especially with BB, DS3, and Sekiro, they did a much better job at placing bonfires.
Dark Souls give me the passion and challenge I really need to continue and love playing games to this day it's Brings me back to old days when games was so enjoyable and bring challenge with great atmosphere and beautiful world
"Game design that relies on outside sources, be it unintentional or otherwise, is a poor decision"
This I agree with. Especially since games don't come with manuals anymore.
Take Bloodborne's Insight mechanic for example. All it's intricacies AREN'T explained in-game. IF you were a hunter irl. This is something you would research before venturing out in this world.
@kythlyn Speaking of jank in Bloodborne, motion controls for emotes making me sit down when I'm trying to run from enemies and climb a ladder. Seriously, why is that a feature?
I would strongly disagree. While I personally think Dark Souls 2 has many mediocre levels and bosses. The complex nature of Soulsborne game is something that takes careful crafting to create levels (better termed areas) and bosses that challenging, fair, and rewarding. Good soulsborne titles punish players for poorly approaching challenges whilst rewarding players that analyze challenges being presented.
As an aside:
As a long time player of FPS games. I have noticed that some of the poorest game design is in first person shooters that focus on loadouts and skill gap compression. Call of Duty, Battlefront, and Battlefield often have maps that are designed to be random and unpredictable to reduce the impacts of map control. Additionally, weapon, ability, hero and class balance seems to be intentionally poorly down.
of course sometimes games of these types has their own limitations, but you have to adapt, apart from that, they encourage you to learn and get better. these games has most fairness in gaming, because other games just artificial creates difficulties and they does not have any fairness, just screw players over without any reason.
thegamer is just troll site at this point.
They're actually quite the opposite, which is what made them blow up. In an industry where everyone has abandoned the core pillars of satisfying game design in exchange for "broad appeal" and hiding rewards behibd paywalls and microtransactions. The the Souls games brought them back with avengeance with string emphasisin risk vs reward, and wasn't afraid to make the rewardthat much sweeter by challenging players at a time when excessive hand holding was the norm. If the game was only hard because they were designed badly, they wouldn't be as popular as they are
As someone who has a bachelors degree in Game Development and Design i can tell you that this series is literally built on the core pillars of game design, probably the best and most consistent examples if it in the past deacde or so. I could sit here and tell you why but many others have already done so.
TLDR, you're wrong.
TOO LATE. They've become Gaming "Churnalists" meaning they churn out copious amounts of trash. Theeir moto is Quanity over quality. The drones that work there constantly are throwing shit at the wall hoping that something... ANYTHING sticks so they can get their clicks. It doesn't even matter if they agree with what they're writing or not. They think of topics and just churn out trash. The website is garbage. No one believes that the souls games are bad design... NO ONE. Even people that hate they games know that they're good design, it's just not for them.
This topic was one of the many chosen by the Editor and picked someone to write it, whether they believed it or not. It's like performing on a 'debate' stage. Whether you're 'for' something or 'against'. You just write accordingly. THIS is trash journalism. THIS WEBSITE IS TRASH
Omar writes: "The PS5 looms off in the horizon of Holiday 2020 but it would be nice to see some of these familiar games get remakes on Sony's next console."
Replies(2)RDR2.. But that's for sure happening.
Haven't played it yet.. Waiting for remaster and pc version goes in that way
Great game deserves great sales! Although, I'm almost positive if there's a sequel, we're gonna see Sony publishing it instead of Atlus. I can online imagine they're kicking themselves in the butt for passing up a quarter million in unit sales!
Intelligent conversation? What with a obsessive liar who doesn't talk about quality of games and only resorts to sale numbers for comfort?
From Software is getting more praise than it deserves. SCEJ co-developed this amazing game, you can see it in the opening credits.
250K in NA + 250 (at least) in Japan is a resounding success for a "niche" game not even released in EU.
this game will be a million lifetime seller. it is great and 250k with no advertising is pretty good