The official NPD numbers are in for the month of October. As expected, Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2: Among Thieves has delivered some solid numbers for the launch month.
537k in the US and 1000000 worldwide sounds about right for uncharted, solid numbers. also these numbers for the PS3 sales are innacurate.. i bought my PS3 at walmart last month :) 320601 that is
... oh well we all knew this was gonna happen sooner, rather than later... BUT... what really surprised me was the PS2 is narrowing the gap on the Xbox 360 and it looks like it'll surpass it in monthly sales in the USA sometime in early 2010. LMAO
Honestly i expected higher numbers for Uncharted 2, it is hands down best game this year, and it is not only about single player, it has awesome online also.
The wii just keeps selling. Good numbers for the ps3 and even the 360 did better than I thought. Software wise...5 out of 10 are 360 games with 2 being exclusives. 2 of the 10 are ps3 with 1 being exclusive. Nice to see that 1 exclusive outsell the 2 combined. Looks like ps3 has finally found its "system seller". edit: I added them all up and it still amazes me that nintendo can outsell all of sony and MS with just two products combined. Nintendo total sales for both are a combined 964k where as the total of the rest (sony+ms) is 863k. Nintendo is 100k ahead and didnt really have any big titles out. WTF?
I'm kind of suprise forza didn't sell more, after all the hype as the definitive racer.
@Darthv72 I know your trying to make a point or something, but you are aware that the first title is from September and the second title had 3 days of sales.
It might be because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Very good numbers. PS3 ahead of the 360 by nearly 100k and UC2 did amazingly. Great job Sony. The 360 is now in THIRD. Oh and for those morons saying they expected more from UC2, stop being delusional. 99.9% of ALL video games don't sell as well as UC2 did so just shut up.
I was expecting bigger numbers for 360 Next month should be interesting MW2 numbers:O and we can also find out how many ppl bought a new 360 after getting their old one banned :P
Bu Bu the PS3 sales will taper off and only narrowly beat the 360.
Wasn't Forza 3 gonna "outsell GT5" and the "definitive race"? haha, I don't think so. GT is STILL king after so many years.
"The PS3 outsold the 360 by 150 000 units in the USA at the peak of the PS3 slim hype. Now lets wait for the October NPD and you'll see that 150 000 gap shrink like it almost never existed. Mark my words, bookmark this post or whetever and just wait. " comment by Cold 2000 from http://n4g.com/industrynews... I just had to. Anyways, it did shrink... but it didn't shrink like it almost never existed. @Xiphos It must've been karma. @Saaking Yes he did. But hey, he said to bookmark the post and wait ... so I did.
I don't care for sales, but Cold was just pwned. Hilarious.
It's still selling! and lol @ Turn 10
Surprised Forza 3 sold so little, especially with the good reviews and the amount of marketing and buzz they tried to put behind it. They've released footage on nearly a daily basis since E3, and I saw many commercials for it. Even saw back-to-back Forza 3 commercials that spanned the whole break while watching something on FX.
WTF LOL never seen that.. That's actually pretty funny
@beardpapa I wonder if he'll show up. He just got OWNED.
I don't remember you saying the same thing about KZ2,I wonder why :P
I wonder how MS will respond, after September NPD they claimed they would be outselling the PS3 as of October.
lol So yeah, I can't believe how much BS comes spouting out of Microsoft's PR offices... They border on blatant lies (like the above which was said a few weeks ago). They remind me of Sony back at the start of this gen, and we all know where that sort of bullish ignorance got them.
I would have expected Uncharted 2 sales to be higher just based on the high number of PS3's sold. If most of those consoles were sold by UC2's release, that means only 200-250K copies were sold to existing PS3 users, which doesn't seem right. What game, if any, are people buying with all these new PS3s?
Expect the 360 not to lead for a while.
PS3 is shining guys, cry louder fanboys but the only people that don't see it were always you, so GO PS3!!! @Saaking That was a good joke, I mean well... OMG the fanboys said that XD, they can't even support Forza, they are mainly shooter lovers, so Forza doesn't count for them @BRG9000 Don't take it serious, after all is called PAYBACK!!! Seriously, is good to know people are not into this war, but I just had enough with fanboys attacking ME or my Console of choice. They don't even look at the mirror but have no problem to bash other people for having a different console, you know how bad this sound, now they start to Shut UP but they still persist and don't quit Peace out man, Is good to see a person that enjoy gaming and don't waste his entire life bashing the choice of an entire gaming community
That settled it. The console war is officially just an incredibly nerdy spectator sport. I think I've heard those exact words shouted by Red Sox fans. Edit: @ above edit - Payback for what? Against whom? Why is it to be celebrated? I just find the video game industry trends/sales really interesting and wish it could be discussed without everyone trying to shout over each other.
Now add this total to the the numbers from Japan where the PS3 has been outselling the 360 by 25K to 35K every week. That's at least another 100K in a month. the 360 may take the UK but everywhere else...including most of Europe...they are getting buried. I am still laughing at vgchartz only putting the PS3 50K ahead of the 360. I knew they were good for a laugh. And they missed the Wii numbers by 140K. How is that for misplacing a decimal.
Couldn't even out-sell the GT5p demo. Which just goes to show, 360 owners love shooters. Leave the racing to games with 9+cars on the road. Stop pretending you know anything about cars. You guys dont buy/care about car games, just wanted something to pretend you didn't want GT. Real Definitive. More of you wanted borderlands lol. @ Saaking: "Wasn't Forza 3 gonna "outsell GT5" and the "definitive race"?" Yep.. all the hype... all the smack talk... 360 owners didn't even know it was out apparently. Ah well... maybe there really aren't that many people who want to paint pikachu's on low polygon cars. But seriously WAY TO GO NAUGHTY DOG! They sold more than MGS4!!! Lets not forget that sales ultimately don't matter. But how about we drop the "TEH SALES > Game Quality" nonsense here? Because we all know who started it..& why you've been beat at your own silly game. buh 8 mill
LOL at the fanboys.
Its like we keep saying to the 360 fanboys, besides halo and gears the 360 is doing poor numbers with its exclusives considering the 360 has such a "huuuuuge" lead. Moral of the story, dont put all your eggs in one basket, variety is the spice of life.
why does it say "FORZA MOTORSPORT 3 (360; Oct-09) 175,000" when the game came out on the 27th of october
Awesome news for Uncharted 2 and the PS3. Well done.
What's interesting to me about this is that I guess the Amazon.com numbers can't be used to give a good indication for what NPD will be. Because I habitually check the top 100 Amazon sales each day, and I noticed that Ratchet & Clank A Crack in Time has been above Forza Motorsport 3 every single hour since it came out. Forza 3 charted, R&C did not. So even though Amazon.com sold more R&C than Forza 3, it doesn't hold for NPD-tracked retail in general. Interesting. That proves there's discrepency. Although I guess it doesn't matter any more, because lately there haven't been many Amazon sales submissions like there were back in September.
"also these numbers for the PS3 sales are innacurate.. i bought my PS3 at walmart last month :) 320601 that is" Funny, because apparently 392 days and 2 hours ago (more than a year), you had a PS3.
that infamous sold more its first month than forza 3 did. and no i dont mean that as an insult. us americans must not be the biggest racer lovers for some reason.
http://n4g.com/industrynews... Hey Coolldd, where are youuuu???!?!? Must be in a dark room somewhere biting his nails off and mumbling to himself.
Funny, there are people that feel that uncharted sells were spot on yet Forza under performed are simply just hypocrites. I mean to be honest, although the PS3 has had better exclusives this year, the typical PS3 fanboy hyped and treated the mere thought of uncharted coming out as if it was the second coming of Christ. Now to put this into perspective, I can't think of one PS3 fan that didn't say that they weren't gonna get uncharted 2. Now Forza is a niche type of a game, only driving lovers will buy it, and the same will be true for GT5. But for those that are saying that FORZA underperformed, you just being haters, personally, I feel that uncharted should have at least sold 1 million in the US alone considering the US install base for the PS3, and the hype, drooling, and ranting this game received. But, whatever, your behavior isn't a real surprise. Edit, and for all you guys harping on CoolID, he was actually right for the most part. The PS3 outsold the 360 by 150k last month but only half that this month. Suddenly you want to try and take his words in the literal since. get over yourselves guys.
It's only been 2 months since the PS3's $100 price drop and it's barely outselling the 360. The 360 outsold the PS3 for 13 months straight after its $100 price drop in 2008. Nintendo dominated hardware sales with the unbeatable Wii and DS. Microsoft dominated software sales with 5 games in the Top 10, versus 3 for Nintendo and 2 for Sony.
at those saying that the PS3's lead is not enough, dont worry guys worldwide the PS3 is outselling the 360 by a decent margin even VGCrapz fake numbers can't deny it.
360 also had a price cut. Nice try though! Wonder what happens when the rebate program ends? Betcha the rebate program will be extended indefinitely! So this is meaningless, because 18 mos hasn't come around yet. 360 is being outsold across the whole world, not just US! Probably by like 500,000!
So now because one game on PS3 sold 537000 copies (very weak)the 360 is all of a sudden doomed? 360 still sold more software overall even with all the hype of the slim and UC2 which says alot. Forza 3 numbers next month will be much higher and 360 will once again dump all over PS3 well into 2011 moving forward. You guys go ahead and brag about your one month of average software sales because in the end PS3 will never catch 360 in software or hardware sales this gen. edit below: Obviously these are not final for Forza 3 because of it's late release. Next month will look much different and just so you know xbox gamers have been buying racers for quite some time. Heck I guess PS3 gamers don't buy games because 537000 is weak for th most hyped up game this gen lol.
Turn 10 and xbox 360 fanboys. talked so much s*** but in the end, a good old forza become flopza. It's official xbox 360 fanboys dont race anyway, so they have no idea how good GT is and how bad forza is. They don't care, they just ran their mouth boasting how forza is better than GT. But In the end, they don't even support it. What a pity. Edit: wait next month eh? are you gonna mark your word and be another cold_2000? Dude PS3 not buy uncharted 2, it's top of the NPD list man. what are you talking about? lol
Oh, now it's "teh software sales". Question; How are those 360 Japan software sales? A bigger console install base tends to have that effect!
Wake UP you delusional fanboy, your lovely console is not going anywhere, December with FF13 and March with Gran Turismo 5 and GOW3 will prove all of you fanboys Playstation haters were SO WRONG about PS3 Talk all you want, but the saddest thing is even if you fanboys hype Forza and say is better, the mainly xbox crew is shooter lover and don't even care about that game, you only say that for the sake of your blinded fanboysm, hell you don't even know why you hate Sony Did a Sony PR or someone of the Sony crew take your Virginity? NO, so why you zealots hate so much, why always talk sh·t about PS3, why you let M$ rip you off with shody hardware, $50 per year for an online service that is FREE everywhere else and expensive peripherals Wake UP, meanwhile you hate my console and love your precious RRODbox, I'm enjoying the best gaming experience and you get f*cked by a giant greedy corporation that enter the gaming industry just to get more money and don't give anything in exchange
@Beans How the hell is 537k "weak"? Don't be such a moron. Try naming 10 other games that have done those numbers. That's right you can't. If 537k is weak what do you call forza's 150k? Seriously, if you believe what you just said I feel sorry for you.
Is the same thing all of xbox fanboys do with their games, seems like you see only what you want to see I don't care about the hype of UC2 and if it can sell as Halo, because I know is amazing, xbox fanboys overhype Halo and have tremendous sales, but the game really deserve it? 6 hours of SP, slightly better graphics and anything new to table, I'm ok with fans but if they only bought it just to support M$ that's crap Congratulations xbox fanboys you encourage M$ to make slightly improvements and milking the cow more than ever Every time you buy a new xbox because the other broke, you encourage M$ to make even more crappy shody hardware Every time you pay $50 to play online, you encourage M$ to rip you off with this crappy tactic and it make you hostage by not letting you have another choice, hell they can rise the price and anyone can do anything Every time you buy a expensive peripheral you encourage M$ to keep the prices HIGH Every time you deny the lot of bad things about your console, you are fooling yourself
@sikbeat "Wake UP you delusional fanboy who are you calling fanboy lol, your lovely console is not going anywhere, December with FF13 and March with Gran Turismo 5 and GOW3 will prove all of you fanboys Playstation haters were SO WRONG about PS3" Grow up and quit thinking everybody out to get and hate PS3. Just for your info most of us own one and have every right to correct the dumb and the blind. "Talk all you want, but the saddest thing is even if you fanboys hype Forza and say is better, the mainly xbox crew is shooter lover and don't even care about that game, you only say that for the sake of your blinded fanboysm, hell you don't even know why you hate Sony" I don't hate SOny and never said I did. My beef is with crazed ps3 fanboys like yourself that get so defensive over anything negative PS3. You better be glad there's a 360 because without it you would still be living in your ps2 world. "Did a Sony PR or someone of the Sony crew take your Virginity? NO, so why you zealots hate so much, why always talk sh·t about PS3, why you let M$ rip you off with shody hardware, $50 per year for an online service that is FREE everywhere else and expensive peripherals" Maybe just maybe not everyone likes the PS3 or feels it's worth the hype. Also I pay for whatever I want and decide whats worth my money big or small. If you can't afford live then fine but don't worry about others that may not feel ripped off. If you think free makes psn better then live your a fools fool. " Wake UP, meanwhile you hate my console and love your precious RRODbox, I'm enjoying the best gaming experience and you get f*cked by a giant greedy corporation that enter the gaming industry just to get more money and don't give anything in exchange" If your only playing on PS3 then you my friend are a fool missing out. There are plenty of top notch games on 360 from developers that have nothing to do with MS. I personally could care less what MS does with there money or if there greedy because I make plenty of my own money and play games for entertainment only. You sound very miserable and hopefully you don't start growing white hairs over the fight or console war lol.
I'm not going to name ten games lol. You think I'm a sit here and do research over this when I already know it's been done many times with games on 360 just like you do. No sir you go ahead and find those ten games by yourself. If you think a measley 537000 is a lot for a game with that much hype than more power to you.
North American release date for Forza 3: 27 OCTOBER. NDP for OCTOBER: 150K Verdict: 150K in 4 days of OCTOBER...it is basic mathematics. Still surprised at Forza 3 numbers? Nuff Said
To all the morons laughing at Forza 3's sales numbers: Forza 3 sold 175,000 which equals 35,000 per DAY (released 10/27). Uncharted 2 sold 537,000 which equals 28200 per DAY (released 10/13). For even more perspective, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (released April 17, 2008) sold 224,000 in it's first 14 days according to NPD. That equals 16,000 per day. @Saaking 1.7 - so, 71,000 is "nearly" 100,000?? On what planet? Pretty sad that you have to lie in an attempt to make your point.
Games are front end loaded. I'm sorry, but your post is just ridiculous. Unless you're contending Halo's ~1 million US first day (missreported as 2 million by VGChartz - how many times before we ignore them?) is somehow 45 million now? - you know, multiplying one day's numbers out..? Or that Modern Warfare 2's 5-7 million first day, four days in is now 20-28 million? Bit silly, no? Christmas will help curb drop off's some, and will allow a pick up in sales of some popular/well reviewed titles, but don't kid yourself, dividing 'days on sale' at the front end and multiplying that number out linearly for months/weeks is just nonsense - unless games have a strong tail and/or second wind - the front end is always disproportionately bigger (depending on game style/word of mouth/system sales etc. it can be as big as 50% of overall sales).
Uh, exactly where do you see me multiplying out days of sales? My comment was comparing Uncharted 2's first 19 days, GT5P's first 14 days, and Forza 3's first 5 days - nothing more. I made no claims or predictions as to future sales of Forza 3 or Uncharted - I simpy put each game in perspective with regards to available sales information.
yeah you got me there.. i sold my old one and bought a slim last month :) dayum cant believe i joined n4g more than a year ago.. time flyes
Uh, exactly where do you see me multiplying out days of sales? My comment was comparing Uncharted 2's first 19 days, GT5P's first 14 days, and Forza 3's first 5 days - nothing more. I made no claims or predictions as to future sales of Forza 3 or Uncharted - I simpy put each game in perspective with regards to available sales information. ------------------ Multiplying/dividing -it's the same deal. Misrepresentation. You're extrapolating a number based on sales being 'linear' across a period of time - that's the very notion underlying your argument. They're not. It's a nonsense. Uncharted 2's first day was bigger than it's second which was bigger than it's third etc. It's first week was bigger than it's second week. It's second week was no doubt bigger than it's third (holidays/weekends/second winds and other aberrations (sales etc) notwithstanding this is the way things go). You're taking a bunch of these later 'declining' numbers days and using them on one title to 'average down' the 'per day' sales whilst taking only the 'bigger' (though still not much bigger, surprisingly) 'first four days averaged' on the other game and extrapolating on that. You know it's dishonest. Forza's second 4/5 days will be smaller than it's first 4/5 days, it's third 4/5 days same again. Comparing like for like - on the figures available - 'first four days versus first four days' - the only valid comparison (if there is one) - Uncharted 2 has outsold it by a factor of 2.5/3:1 plus. It's only creative maths - misrepresentative maths if you're not contending that it won't be usable as a predictor - which would show otherwise.
I do see your point. Actually, I don't even really care about Uncharted's numbers - I only mentioned it because it was released the same month as Forza 3. To be fair, I will try to find Forza 3 sales numbers for the next week or so in order to bring it into the same timeframe as GT5P. But, in that regard, the gap is so big that even if I average out Forza 3's numbers with the next week figured in, I seriously doubt it will lower the average enough to change my original hypothesis that Forza 3 is selling faster than GT5P, despite the claims to the contrary by many here.
Forza 3 did come out at the end of October though. So 175,000 is for 4 days. We'll see November's NPD if sales for Forza 3 picks up. Either way it will never sell anything close to Gran Turismo unless it gets bundled like Forza 2 did. I still havent got my copy yet. Since Uncharted 2 and now MW2's release, I haven't been playing anything else.
It was released on the 27th in NA. For 4 days those aren't horrible numbers. Considering Uncharted was out more than 4 times as long and sold 3 times as many it's not horrible.
"To all the morons laughing at Forza 3's sales numbers: Forza 3 sold 175,000 which equals 35,000 per DAY (released 10/27). Uncharted 2 sold 537,000 which equals 28200 per DAY (released 10/13). For even more perspective, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (released April 17, 2008) sold 224,000 in it's first 14 days according to NPD. That equals 16,000 per day." It's called a gradient curve, genius. Games don't sell at a constant.
"My comment was comparing Uncharted 2's first 19 days, GT5P's first 14 days, and Forza 3's first 5 days - nothing more. I made no claims or predictions as to future sales of Forza 3 or Uncharted - I simpy put each game in perspective with regards to available sales information." It's not perspective when you pick and chose the days you want to compare. Compare them all at the same point of release and you might have a case.
The best number that I can find shows Forza 3 selling 131,000 between November 1 and November 7. So, for it's first 12 days, Forza 3 has sold 306,000 in the US. That's an average of 25,500 per day - still WAY ahead of GT5P's pace.
^^^ congratz forza 3 is outselling a demo...what an f-in cookie or what?? seriously soxfan why do you even bother, its not like you are gonna change anyone's opinion...that's the reason i stopped defending sony from your side all the time...its just neverending and too much work: ultimately people are gonna believe whatever THEY want to, no one on the internet is gonna change their opinion
I'll see you next month.. same npd time, same npd channel.When F3 falls out of the top, I'm going to continue to laugh at you and the pathetic series that is the "definitive" racing game of this generation. Forza2 barely sold more than Gran Turismo's demo. 360 fans just aren't interesting in driving games, just painting, and out of that #.. 1/2 have banned consoles now. Forzas sales are weak, but its because people would rather play FPS titles.Just like People spelled doom for KZ2, welp.. its doom for F3's staggeringly low sales. Forza isn't a console mover, or a big seller. It just tides over a few people that can't wait for GT. Have fun hoping that it sells more, because as far as NPD goes, Forza & its preorders flopped. "Hottest cars, Hottest Graphics" lowest sales. we should bet your account on it. Lets do that Since you're so confident. And the saddest part... is that you think F3 will out pace GT5's sales... l o l.
"The best number that I can find shows Forza 3 selling 131,000 between November 1 and November 7. So, for it's first 12 days, Forza 3 has sold 306,000 in the US. That's an average of 25,500 per day - still WAY ahead of GT5P's pace." You still don't get it. You need to compare GT5P at 7 days vs Forza if you want to TRY and make a valid point. Then of course you have to look at install base at the time, location (GT is hugely popular overseas like Halo is hugely popular in America), longevity etc, all of which tell different stories.
Of course GT5's "demo" has such high sales - it's all you've got in that genre. Buy it, or don't have a racing sim. If Turn 10 decided to wait 5 years between releases, and put out "Forza Prologue" in between, it would sell well to starved racing sim fans also. Fortunately, 360 owners don't have to settle for $40 "demos" - we get super high quality FULL sims every 2 years.
PS3 did solid numbers again. Uncharted did pretty well to come top of the charts - wasn't expecting that i must say! Weird that it is the ONLY PS3 game in the top ten though!
Reading is hard, huh?
fanboys get defensive just because someone missed something from the charts.
Just keep this up for the next 24 months and then maybe the PS3 will matter in the US.
Why doesn't it matter now?
It's got like less than half the install base of the 360.