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Fortune: How Wii Won

Fortune's Jeffrey M. O'Brien explains how Nintendo's new game machine won over the world - and beat the pants off Sony and Microsoft.

"While game consoles typically attract youngish males with an antisocial streak, the Wii is bringing people of all demographics together: in nursing homes, for Wii bowling leagues, on cruise ships, at coed (!) Wii-themed parties and, of course, in lines - as hordes of consumers clamor to buy the impossible-to-find $250 machine. Nintendo is churning out over a million units a month and still can't meet demand."

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funkysolo6167d ago

I'm sick of hearing about the wii, where do these people live in a remote island, I can go to any store and find the wii. I think is stupid fanboys editors that keep hyping the system more that what it really is a last gen system

XxZxX6167d ago (Edited 6167d ago )

you cant deny it, Wii won now.. Future don't know yet. Will mainstream continue with the current graphic and technology and when will mainstream adapt to nexgen graphics. We don't know. Of course for gamers, it is good for us to adapt to the next technology, but majority won't take that chance so swiftly. For nintendo, kudos for milking the FUDs by putting a cheap console and let FUDs commited halfways to something that is one foot on current gen and one foot on next gen. I'm sure right now Nintendo strategy is basically same as Sony on PS2, milk it while it last and both of them seem to do so.

unsunghero286167d ago (Edited 6167d ago )

You can find one? Please, give me a hand!

I could name about five different people who are still looking like crazy and can't get their hands on that sturdy li'l white box.

hfaze6167d ago

Let's face it, they got some big hits with Wii Sports and Wii Play, but how long are they going to be able to keep the "casual gamer" locked in?

Hardcore gamers are the ones that will jump on the latest game title, generate the most sales per user, and basically be the bread and butter keeping the money flowing in to the companies putting out the games that appeal to the hardcore gamer crowd...

The casual gamer crowd is a bit more fickle... They aren't as likely to keep buying games for it (especially when you historically get a boatload of crappy games on Nintendo's systems), and they're not the type that will lookup reviews on games before they buy. How many times of buying an absolute craptastic games for $50 a pop will it take to turn off the casual gamer from the Wii?

I've always complained about Nintendo holding back technology. The last truly advanced system they put out was the N64 (a SGI Indigo workstation, sans hard disk and optical drive, in a funny looking casing). They may have hit it off big at first, but how long is this crazy momentum going to carry on without AAA titles?

unsunghero286167d ago

I think the hardcore gamer should be perfectly fine with Corruption, Galaxy, Brawl, and BWii...

As for the casual gamer, there are a ton of first- (and even more third-) party games coming out that should be casual enough for just about anyone.

Babylonian6167d ago (Edited 6167d ago )

"While game consoles typically attract youngish males with an antisocial streak............"

Fvck you asshole, we gamers all have our social lives. I't not like we play games all day long. And videogames became mainstream in early 2000s, it's not like Nintendo opened a whole new area. The gamescene began in the 70s and actually got mainstream in the 90s, but the real big mainstream is in 2000s. What a monkeyfvck this guy is.

unsunghero286167d ago

Dude, just because you're 12 doesn't mean that everyone started playing videogames the same time that you did. Jesus.

Plus, what the hell kind of a sicko talks about grandma self-stimulation???

ITR6166d ago

What are you talking about...VG and arcades were mainstream back in the 80's.

Atari...Nintendo?

F'in arcades ruled back in the 80's and 90's.

Now I'm wondering what the hell happened.

sumfood4u6167d ago

Pricey is no concern, Fun~Factor a Perfect 10! Togetherness is better than alone!

funkysolo6167d ago

Don't you have to out sell your competitors before you can be crown king? Wii may be selling well but there games are not. The wii has a 2 to 1 attach rate and the xbox has a 6 to 1, so who's doing better, I would go with the one selling the most games as that would make me as a developer want to makes games for a system that sells games. The wii can sell 50 million units and still end up losing if the only games people play on it are wii sports and wii play. So to the morons out there defending nintendo for offering you a gamecube with a gadget and overcharging you for it, buy a real next gen system.

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 7h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga10h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde13h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 5h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 5h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

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got_dam1d 9h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 6h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy852d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted2d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere2d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook71d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy851d 22h ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga1d 22h ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher1d 8h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble1d 3h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike1d 21h ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv721d 11h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

BoneMagnus1d 10h ago

@darth - Nice collection!

crazyCoconuts1d 5h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire1d 10h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga1d 8h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk1d 17h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7211d 12h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty1d 5h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds1d 16h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx121d 15h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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