MCV can this week reveal first details regarding the launch of Microsoft's Project Natal. Our sources say the innovative controller-free 360 camera will be released worldwide in November 2010.
MS said they were going to treat it like a new conbsole launch. So theyre preparing Halo Reach with all the craze and frenzy that goes with every new Halo + Natal especially if this rumor is true and that they're planning 5 million untits for day one alone... I think their is going to be major mayhem next fall... and even more if thet $50-$60 price is true which would make sense.
it's 1 year from now though which kinda make me not interested at the time. still there's some good stuff in MS bag though. NamcaBandai Konami Rare Ubisoft Capcom all working on games that will be Ready at Launch. November 2010 Christmans ready Release could really mean something Big. just imagine ; Natal Bundle Including Halo Reach for 299$. I hope the NamcoXBandai game is an RPG . EDIT: @ green Yep.
£30 - £50? 14 launch titles? Halo reach and Fable 3 support? If all of the above is true, then Natal will be off to a flying start. edit: "Activision, Bethesda, Capcom, Disney, EA, Konami, MTV, Namco Bandai, Sega, Square Enix, THQ and Ubisoft all committed to make games for the device ". That is a lot of studio support.
They need to show the damn games before I buy into the hype, show at least one core game MS. Knowing MS, this will come out in November 2010, just so that they can try and win the holiday season, the same thing they did this year, which meant we had pretty much no games to play until October :(
To hear this price point banded about. I was always of the opinion that MS had to be aggressive in the pricing and marketing of Natal, in order make an impact with it. Let's hope it's true!
I fully agree with gaffyh. I have seen a few things of Natal so far, and none of them look appealing. The Breakout minigame looks like it'd get boring after about 2 minutes. The Burnout game doesn't look nearly as fun as controlling it with a standard controller. It just seems way too hard to effectively control the steering wheel and apply the amount of gas and break that you want. Everybody I've seen try the thing out has done nothing but wreck into walls and completely fail to drive in a way that could ever win a race. Milo is not my kind of thing, just no interest in it. I want to see some more games for it because nothing yet has been interesting to me.
Sony fangurls are on a roll with the Stealth Disagrees. Can't wait till 2010 you lame-os
If MS actually sell Natal for that cheap, it will be the first time they sell a peripheral at a reasonable price point
HALO REACH + NATAL = Unstoppable Combo MS *OWNED* 2010
Now, lets not get ahead of ourselves shall we? The magical crystal ball of a gamer I tell ya.
Sony is better to sell their wands bundled with PS3 Eye Toy for something like 30-40 pounds. And start to bundle them with as many games as possible. I mean, 50£ or even 30£. I would consider it as some threat to sales. Btw, with Eeye Pet you can already experience some Natal features and even more. So, it`s not a fact, that Natal will be THAT succesful. It depends on games, BUT MS is sure to advertise Natal like 2nd coming. Time will tell, IF that upgraded "Eye Toy" will be sucessful.
MS has proved for them to win to in the past they had to be first. Sonys wand is out in March which means they are gonna 7 months behind Sony! Sony has proved its name and history has the pulling power to pull back from that kind of time but has MS? Thats a massive advantage for Sony. I cant wait for the new Resident Evil in March with the new wand that is a great combo. The NATAL looks good but honestly why is it taking that long?? The technology's already here. they PSEYE can do everything the NATAL can do its just the software we waiting for now. Obviously MS started later than Sony this means. Which also Means as usual MS jumped on the bandwagon. Not only being the last to go motion sensor having to copy everything Sony does but having to clone the PSEYE. Very sad MS very sad...
Isn't the PSEye an upgraded EyeToy?
you also know the natal can only track 1 person at once? meaning no multiplayer motion sensor games unless online. Another way of MS forcing live on customers. Sony's wand system allows upto 4 wands to be tracked at any 1 time. So unlike the 360 Sony can get ports of wii classic games to PSN etc..
Natal can scan and track 4 players at once.
Natal can track more than one person at a time, that's one of it's main features.
That is so untrue.Natal is capable of viewing multiple people at once. http://www.youtube.com/watc... .Go to 1.31 and 2.52 secs and see a family of 4 playing 1v100 and 2 people playing soccer split screen.
by the time Natal is out, ltd sales of the PS3 is already ahead of the 360. Watch how the PS3 will outsell the 360 by more than a million units this holiday season alone, add to that GOW3 and of course GT5. I wanna see some decent games first before I believe the Natal hype, because as of now all i am seeing is a laggy casual gaming device
I love how 360 gamers are viewing natal as the second coming but in reality you guys will probably use it for a week and never use it again. You're gonna quickly learn that you need a controller for some experiences. How's an FPS gonna work unless its on rails? Believe me, if you think natal will be as big as the wii, it won't.
Eyetoy is good for Sony but in no way has anything to do with NAtal and the impact it will have. The guys running around in fear of NAtal and spreading fud will be laughed at when it releases. MS shouldn't have to show anything until it's time so go enjoy your updated eyetoys lol.
@Shadow Flare What makes you think that it will have to be all or nothing? I'm sure that a lot of games will use both a controller AND Natal at the same time. I can't wait to see what developers do with it.
I've been getting a lot of disagrees up there for stating that there's been no Natal software shown that interests me. So I take it that you disagreers are interested in some Natal software that you've seen? Please, let me know which Natal games are interesting to you, because I'd love to see some awesome stuff.
People are excited by the concept and the possibilities. Wait until some actual games get announced before asking people to name some games that they are looking forward to.
although i love to see innovative ideas such as the Nintendo Wii i will NOT be buying this. i am more of a traditional controller player. I did buy a Wii for my family but i never use it, never seen a game i have thought "wow that would be good on the wii" compared to on PS3 / Xbox 360
I am losing count at the amount of times this has had to be repeated. It must be more convenient for Sony supports to just pretend the information doesn't exist. MICROSOFT HAS STATED THEMSELVES THAT NATAL WILL WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH REGULAR CONTROLLERS. They even admitted that some of the games that come out for it will be hybrid games that use both like.....FPS most likely. There are other things that Natal can do other than control which can be used within game. MS is making sure the Devs have enough time to explore those possibilities prior to launch.
You have no way to substantiate any of what you've said. At this point it's all opinion. How can you possibly know that ltd sales of PS3 will have surpassed 360 by this time next year? Honestly, you can't. Even if the PS3 outsells 360 by 1m units this year that doesn't mean that a cheap Natal won't have an impact. In case you haven't noticed, the casual gamer market has a lot of purchasing power as seen by the Wii's success. If they can pack Natal in with a 360 for $200 for next year's holiday season (and they probably can) we're probably going to see the casual market really light up, especially if the software is there to support it. The ability to support local multiplayer (as has been demonstrated with the preliminary Natal demos) will really go a long way to strengthening the appeal of the package as something to have at the center of family game time.
And they said that it will release at 100 bucks. Who here thinks it's absurd to think that this Natal will release at any less of a price than their own WiFi adapter? As for innovative, what a shill, this "innovation" was released when the Eye Toy came out and even before that with the PC. This tech will come out and be forgotten about by hardcore gamers all over the world in a matter of weeks. If it is not faddish like the Wii, it will flop. Heck, I don't even have that much faith in the Sony wand but this eye-toy tech has been around before and failed to grab the general audience.
@reburn yes, what i said is my opinion, the same way you said your opinion regarding the impact natal will do to the casual crowd.... geesh i guess people suddenly wants casual gaming to take over. I rather want MS focusing on actually making great AAA core games for core gamers rather than investing millions again to develope natal and not to mention the millions they are going to spend again to adverstise it like the second coming of Christ.
If their wireless N adapter sells for a $100 then there is NO WAY Natal will sell for anything less than $150, and that is being optimistic.
gaffyh: Microsoft's release up until September 2009 (since you said October) The Lost & Damned Halo Wars Ninja Blade Shadow Complex Trials HD 'Splosion Man 1 vs. 100 Banjo Tooie The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai Kodu Uno Rush Lode Runner After September Forza Motorsport 3 South Park: Let's Go Tower Defense Play! Lips: Number One Hits Halo Waypoint (which isn't necessarily a game, more Meta I guess) The Ballad of Gay Tony That's the first/second party lineup, factor in the third party stuff both exclusive and multiplatform and their was a lot to appeal to all sorts of gamers, did you really find nothing interesting this year? On topic: That would be a killer price, while I would definitely buy Natal, I'm interested in seeing how the games would work for it.
would coincide well with the release of both Halo Reach and Fable 3. So that makes sense. 14 games at launch is a good number. I was expecting 4 to 6 but 14 should cover both family/casual titles and a few hardcores as well. All Rare needs to do is release Viva Pinata 3 for Natal and I'm good.
If they are planning on selling the thing that cheap 2 things come to mind. 1) They don't care if they lose MASSIVE amounts of money(because the tech they talked about Natal doing would not be that cheap) to attract casual gamers and keep the 360 afloat. or 2) They outright lied about what Natal is capable of and it's nothing but a glorified eye toy(which also sells for around that price) and will be a complete and utter failure.
and they gave natal the Grand Award winner for home entertainment. It was the top 100 best innovations of the year mag.
How in dear lord did you come up with that? Base on the price point I would say that they want to sell as much as possible. No one would buy it at $100
Halo Reach + natal? you make Halo sound cheap, I thought natal will be a response to the wii-mote The love for the motion crap goes to the controller, If you don't have a motion controller you don't have the love of the casuals motion control lovers and gamers always want a joystick or a keyboard Now, how much space you need to play a fps/tps If natal track all your movements and put in the game and if it manage to do it'll be pretty damn laggy, like the avatar shoe stuff also if you play with natal you'll get physically tired, what's the fun with that? If you want to make physics exercises you go outside, games are to relax and have a good time, not like the wii-fit crap 5 million untits for day one, if that's truth is the typical M$ thinking: -"hello I'm M$, look what I made, now buy it" In the real world that kind of thinking doesn't apply to individuals
"if you play with natal you'll get physically tired, what's the fun with that?" Are you really implying that you cannot get physically tired without have fun? Really? Play sports do ya?
Read my WHOLE comment please I wrote: "If you want to make physics exercises you go outside" Like football and stuff, no yoga and other craps, Got it?
Look at the blatant fanboyism from 360 zealots, there are so many duplicate accounts of the same user, you can just notice by the way they type, it's just too obvious and I love how the mods really don't do anything. Anyway, for Natal to be successful, Microsoft needs to distance itself as most as it can from the 360's image of an unreliable console by: a. Redesigning the 360 aesthetically, i.e. make it like a 360 slim, approaching Wii size b. Redesigning the innards completely, actually making it *RELIABLE* c. If they can, add a better CPU and better GPU, a similar jump in power the same way it was from gamecube to Wii, just to leave PS3 in the dust. The problem with that would be making the 360 not compatible with Natal games, which may not be the best thing to do, but hell, Nintendo killed of the gamecube anyway and didn't allow gamecube owners to upgrade through an add-on, so it would be understandable. d. Market it as a new console. Do not name it Xbox 360. Do not relate it to Xbox 360, just make it backwards compatible with 360 games. Also, if they don't add more power, just offer current 360 owners the possibility of an upgrade (and I'm sure they will). This is the only way I can see Microsoft succeeding. But you know what, I love it how 360 fanboys are lately out in full force trying to evangelize non 360 owners and insulting everything non-Microsoft, especially everything PS3 related. They just keep talking about tessellation and things they don't really know anything about, as if hte 360, which will be 5 years old hardware by then, was still relevant compared to PC hardware. I got bad news for most of you kids, Microsoft is taking the Wii route by focusing on user friendliness, NOT on hardcore gaming, at least not as much as before. So why are you partying anyway? Anyway, I had to lol at these comments from the Sonic avatar guy though: "If they can pack Natal in with a 360 for $200 for next year's holiday season" Big IF. The 360 also needs a HDD, all devs have clamored for it. The new Natal is a double-eyed webcam with a relatively sophisticated CPU. "(and they probably can)" Stopped reading there. lol, first you call someone on making assertions about PS3 outselling 360 and then you make assertions about probabilities of what some company can and can't even though you also have no evidence, only your own ignorant beliefs. Wow, just wow. Yeah, Microsoft probably can give the 360 away too LULZ. Hell, they can do anything. Do they WANT to?
...so we get a controller and suddenly your fart of a comment disappeared into the wind. Dude, Xbox 360 still has a controller. If you need a controller you'll buy one. I dunno why you think that Natal would prevent you from OWNING a controller period...
I think that is too late...they might as well wait for the next gen if they do that...I think the spring or even the summer would be more suitable...what if the Wii2 decides to launch then...what would MS do...
Now their's an idea to actually sell Natal Call it Natal-Halo project. lmfao.
Everyone seems to viewing this as an either/or scenario. "Just watch - you'll miss your controller!" "You'll get tired of using your body for everything!" You're missing the big advantage of Natal. It tracks your BODY, not a peripheral. Imagine playing a FPS with your 360 controller. And you've got a squad. You reach a sketchy looking house. You let go of your joystick and hold up your fist. And your character does it in realtime with you. And you're whole squad stops moving. Then, using your controller, you slide up to the door and peek in. Looks clear. So you make a circle in the air with your finger. And again, your character does this in realtime, perfect tracking of your hand movement. And your squad regroups on you. It's like voice recognition only now it's BODY RECOGNITION. This is just one example of how INTEGRATING Natal into already proven means of control - rather than replacing it entirely - can greatly enhance our immersion and interactivity.
If it's only around 60 bucks with a game bundled I'd probably get it just to try it out. However I must still ask, all of you so hyped up about motion controls why not get a Wii? What's the big difference between Natal and the Wii? In fact, I'd say the wii is probably better suited for hardcore games than Natal. I suggest all of you praising Natal should check out the wii.
@dreman999 It's incredibly simple. MS billed the thing as a higher res version of the eye toy(At least that's what there demos would have you believe) The eye toy is around this price(cheaper really) And it cannot do all the things Natal is supposed to be able to do flawlessly in high res. With that logic it means either it does have much more advanced tech then the eye toy(which would cost alot more then 100 bucks) and they are willing to take a massive hit in the wallet to try to get the thing into the market place for a long term victory(which i doubt will work anyway as I think Natal is pretty lame) The other possibility is that Natal was all smoke and mirrors when it was shown and literally is nothing more then a eye toy(which would again explain how they could sell it that cheap) This are really the only 2 possibility's with a price point this low. It's either crap tech they lied about with smoke and mirrors or it's high tech that they are willing to take a hit in the wallet for so they can invest in the future. It's that simple.
I am definitely taking a wait and see attitude towards Natal, but I do think that its potential is exciting and I look forward to see what developers can achieve with it. I don't know why hardcore PS3 fanboys even feel the need to come in here and try to denounce Natal. It's an exciting piece of technology and it's obvious why it has many gamers excited by the possibilities. Will it succeed? No one knows. But why be so damn negative about it before we've even seen what it will bring to the table? Saaking, I know you hate anything to do with the 360, but I will answer you anyway. Natal does everything that the Wiimote does, only it adds a bunch of other functionality that is not found in the Wiimote or Eyetoy. I don't understand how some of you continue to pretend to be ignorant of that fact. The other reason I think some gamers are more excited by Natal than by the Wii is that the 360 is a high def console with advanced graphics and the games that Microsoft and 3rd party publishers release for it are very different than the kind of games that get released for the Wii. I'm not saying that Natal is going to be the greatest thing ever or that it will even succeed--none of us know that--but what I am saying is that it has potential and I think it is completely expected that gamers would be interested to see what comes out of that potential.
Wow this will definitely turn the xbox 360 into a cutting edge next gen console.
I like how everyone assumes Natal will be mandatory...
I guess That will Kill PS3 but again They could always give them for free
Too bad the 360 has died & no body care about it's exclusives both ODST & Flopza 2.5 flopped in sales... Cry moar bot.
^^ I didn't care for ODST that much, but it sold 2 MILLION copies in the first 24Hrs, you call that a flop? How much has Uncharted 2 sold up to this point? go on, try make it sound like a lot xD
Guess 8 million Halo 3 owners didn't care about that flop.
because gt5 final fantasy vs going to put the crapbox into 3rd place try and get pass the wii and the ps3 sales in japan australia europe newzealand the 360 does not stand a chance and the crap box cant hardley out sell the 9 year old in japan natal will be the next sega
japan=very small market compared to the rest of the world.
so where 200k you got it from? Oh wait that was vgchart lmao
and remember kids 360 Community Head and Shoulders Above PS3
eh, if MS is only going to sell this for 50-60 bucks I don't see how revolutionary it could be. Hell, a wifi adapter costs 100 bucks!
no, i call that a premature ejaculation lol
I dont undrstands whutz my boot has to do wit fishing.
Natal will OWN 2010 can't wait
Just like the PSEYE owned 2008?? I Doubt it...
Was there a game other than Eye of Judgement and a handful of PSN titles to support the PSEye? Sony didn't really throw much support behind that peripheral.
like a fake yugioh game (Eye of Judgement) and a few other inspired dev's to support the eyetoy. sony has a habit of not fully supporting their peripheral. remember the ps tap where you could play 4 players on one game. how many games where made for that.
be playing GT 5, GoW 3, Heavy Rain, Great games that are releasing now but im not getting due to crowded season like Assasins Creed 2, Borderlands, etc. I think its great for those that like motion games to have options like Natal, Wii, PS3 motion controller, etc, but to think a motion console will overtake the stunning AAA library of games for core gamers coming out next year is a little off. It will be interesting to see how Natal is received, definetely 2020 is shaping up to be a defining year for the Video game industry as we know it, i just hope the core gamers are still served when all this motion frenzy arrives. PSN: NoGodsOnlyMan
No, GOWIII, Heavy Rain, TLG, Agent, GT5, and MAG will own 2010.
Maybe it will own, I will not own it.
No, what will own in 2010 will be being a gamer that plays all the good games that come out on either console. I will be very happy in 2010 playing games like Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Splinter Cell Conviction, The Last Guardian, and Halo Reach. Loser fanboys are the ones that lose out.
If ms is copying sony with natal, why is sony researching their own full body motion controller. They should just be able to use the eye toy right? http://www.newscientist.com...
They will also own your wallets, With there $100 wireless adapter. Natal is looking like it will cost more than the console itself. I realy dont see people buying into this, especialy if the price rumours are true. *edit* there is no way it will be as cheap as you say above not with microsofts previous rep with overcharging on HDDs,, Adapters etc, wishfull thinking though.
"The device should cost under £50 when sold solo. One publishing source says Microsoft is “trying to get as close as possible to ‘impulse buy’”. Another even says the camera could even retail for just £30." edit: Microsoft is Hoping for a Big Impact with Natal's release so they'll be doing everything possible to move the most units for Christmas 2010. That's exactly what they will be doing with a £30-£50 price tag for the Camera device and 14 games available at launch.