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Left 4 Dead 2 Demo Update Released

Valve has released another update for the demo of their survival FPS Left 4 Dead 2, now available on Steam.

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3sq5283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

And just when I was about to buy L4D 2 for PC when it gets cheaper but not anymore. After all that bad mouthing about PSN/PS3 from Valve.

Do they realize that most of the PS3 owners are adult and do have PC. If they don't want develop for PS3 that's fine, I couldn't careless cuz I do have PC. But they really disgusted me by saying those nonsenses. Well, I'm not gonna support these disgusted developers.

Well done Valve. You just lost a customer.

Edit: mintaro, have you been living under a rock? Go and look at N4G's front page.

mintaro5283d ago

How exactly did they badmouth PSN

Godmars2905283d ago

By saying that it wasn't up to par to XBL or PC.

Was proabbly talking about technical aspects, but the way it was said implied it was the actual people weren't worthy of playing the game. That they couldn't or wouldn't communicate at the necessary levels to make the game enjoyable.

Basically giving a very lame excuse of why they don't port games to the PS3.

njr5283d ago

Cool story valve, too bad I deleted the L4D2 demo from my hard drive.

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slayorofgods5283d ago

I'm done giving money to Valve, maybe then they will get bought out by a company with some class.

NaiNaiNai5283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

So your going to not buy a game because of what the dev says.

Wow if that doesn't scream fanboy I don't know what does.

Don't worry valve, me and the real gamers will keep buying, just ignore the political ones. You know, the ones who say they like PC and stuff but are hardcore ps3 fans who insulted your games in the past now want them, but you deny them so they say they won't buy your games. you know, 1% of the market.

STONEY45283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

Chec is the biggest ass at Valve, I'd just ignore him. I'm still getting the PC version since it looks really good. It's not like MW2 where they took a whole step backwards and screwed us over.

3sq5283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

Am I a fanboy? Fanboy my ass. Here is my list of Valve Games which I currently do possess.

Half-Life Generation (includes The Original Half-Life, Blue Shift, Opposing Force and Counter-Strike EU Version)
Half-Life 2
Half-Life 2 Episode 1
Left4Dead

When I buy a game, it's not just about buying&playing but also support the game makers.

IN REAL LIFE SITUATION WOULD YOU BUY FROM A SELLER WHO CALLS YOU AN IDIOT???

As for you and others who are going to buy the game, good for you, it's your money after all.

ThanatosDMC5283d ago

Bubbles up. I'm not buying it. I have more valve games on my steam account than any other dev companies.

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Godmars2905283d ago

Know as someone in the PS3 camp this wont be taken seriously, and I've asked this before, but honestly, what demo needs an update just after its released? Much less two.

Pandamobile5283d ago

You act like an update is a bad thing. It's just small fixes that most companies would ignore once the demo is out the door but Valve's really finicky with their products, hence all the small updates.

Godmars2905283d ago

Its updates that are one atop the other right after release.

And again: its a demo. The demo of a 2nd gen version of a prior game. What could be effed up with it, not matter how small, that requires *TWO* updates?

Pandamobile5283d ago

Why don't you try clicking the article you're responding to?

* Playback of intro movie now utilizes surround sound when available
* Fixed sporadic Game UI crash
* Fixed issue with missing RCON output on dedicated servers
* Fixed dedicated server crash after 'quit' command is issued
* Bots are no longer listed as players in game details UI
* Added Coach's missing dialog subtitles

Small. Updates.

If you've EVER played a Valve game before you'd know that because of Steam, Valve can release the most minor of fixes and get everyone caught up to the save version almost instantly. Other devs have to wait until there's a gigantic stack of fixes and make a large patch.

Godmars2905283d ago

ITS A DEMO!

If Valve were as good as you think they are we wouldn't be having this conversation! That they have and often use Steam as a crutch is no real excuse.

NaiNaiNai5283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

I would rather have the demo get fixs to be tested, You know like a open beta test. then them to release broken games.

or firmware. Now what all did PSN 3.0 do again? I mean one firmware update right after the other. I mean really thats just silly.

I mean if sony was as good as you guys say they are they wouldn't need updates ever, I mean it does everything right out of the box doesn't it?

OHHH see what I did there.

Godmars2905282d ago

You're talking about the difference between something in development but released to the public for refinement, a public beta, and a representative example of something finished.

Home, PSN is general, is a work in progress. Will become refined in part because of user interaction, feedback, as well as what Sony wants it to be.

The L4D demo - is a demo. Something that should have been cleaned up and perfected before it was let out the door. They aren't often what they should be, but then they aren't fussed over either. That Valve has the ability to clean one up after its release where other's can't still doesn't excuse that it wasn't cleaned up before hand.

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goldene3555283d ago (Edited 5283d ago )

The game does have some issues. For example, with ATI cards that are in crossfire or anything that is X2 the game runs at 30 fps unless you minimize the game and open it again. I have some trouble with my ATI 4870X2. Setting aside the few issues, I thought the demo was pretty cool.

Pandamobile5283d ago

Sounds like a driver issue. Have you updated them?

goldene3555283d ago

Yea. Drivers are updated. Other people I've been talking to with similar setups with ATI cards are having the same issues. The original L4D had the same issue when it first came out. It's a minor nuisance. I'm sure Valve will have it fixed for launch or shortly afterwards.

STICKzophrenic5283d ago

Game looks and plays exactly like the first one. I thought about buying it, but I'm gonna pass.

Theoneneo815283d ago

As I stated before I'm boycoting Valve for the following reasons 1. they greddy idiots constantly ask for specail pricing on steam and try to get more money. They are lazy A$$es and cant figure out how to make Some PS3 games.

Pandamobile5283d ago

"1. they greddy idiots constantly ask for specail pricing on steam"

What? Steam has some of the cheapest games and best deals around. (unless you're in Europe)

"They are lazy A$$es and cant figure out how to make Some PS3 games. "

Lazy? Valve is one of the biggest perfectionists in the gaming industry. That doesn't fall under 'lazy'. Why do you want their games on PS3 so bad? Their console games suck. If you want to play a Valve game, play it where it belongs on PC.

That's like calling Insomniac lazy for not developing for the PC.

NaiNaiNai5283d ago

Just ignore some of these idiots.

They don't play games, they just trash on them.
Most of these guys didn't even play games before Ps3 and all there wasted money.

monkey6025283d ago

"unless you're in Europe"

True! A lot of the games on steam can be bought here in retail for 10 or 20 euro cheaper, The only downside is how few places actually stock PC games. In my town I can only name 2. There's not a very large market for it here

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN39d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit39d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead39d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica39d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL39d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit39d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper38d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica37d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer39d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit39d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer39d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit39d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff218339d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer39d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff218339d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper38d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal39d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood39d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff218339d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde39d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

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Number1TailzFan151d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist149d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja148d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast149d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot151d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide149d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar149d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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The Best Co-Op Horror Games You've Missed in Halloween

Try to cope with your friend through terror with this list featuring the best horror Co-Op games you can play today.

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