Reggie Fils-Aime commented on being outsold by the PS3 for the first time in September and also on the Wii price cut.
dont think he's allowed to say the contrary in the 1st place.
what the wii need is games, they are in the same boat as the 360, lack of innovative exclusives only available in their console, you see how both MS and Nintendos price cut failed null in response to the PS3 price cut, its not because people couldn't afford the console before but that it wasn't worth the price when they can now (in the case of the WII) pay $50 extra and get most of the highest rated games of this gen which cant be played anywhere else. How can these companies forget that they are in the video game industry, meaning the industry that makes games, how are they suppose to compete when they don't do what their companies are suppose to do? MAKE GAMES. u cant just buy DLC for a couple of high rated multiplat tittle and expect that will keep you gamers full or create and endless river of mini games and expect gamer will keep buying ur console, i would have thought that sony's price cut would force these companies to make better games to compete, i guess i was wrong hopefully for now, there isn't anything i want more that to play great games from in all of my console, not just have a console for multiplat to justify my purchase, keep replaying the same mini games the console game with when it launch. Take a page from sony's book and make GAMES please
And now the Wii is left to the rest of those who do not want a system that is nothing more than a shovelware machine. Make good games and the folks will come in droves.
he doesn't even know what the hell he is saying anymore.
of course he can't say the truth We got owned !
Here's Reggie's press talk (this is not Reggie's exact words in any shape or form, and I cannot be held responsible for any misuse this inaccurate statement.). We're really not phased by what the competition is doing. Here at Nintendo we try our best to be innovators. We don't look to the competition and think what can we do to top them, however, you can see that our competitors are taking that stance with their attempts motion controls. Nintendo is always looking forward, and developing new ideas to help revolutionize the industry. We've sold over 55 million Wii's since launch in late 2006 and the Nintendo DS has surpassed the 100 million mark. Where as our closest competitor the PSP has sold slightly over 50 million. So Nintendo is the premium place for family gaming and the numbers show it. What Reggie's really thinking. (Once again not Reggie's words not suing me Nintendo.) Holy Shigady I can't believe the crap I'm spuing. Sony's completely outselling us in Japan, our numbers are falling all across the board. Sony and MS are taking our motion controls advantage away, and possibly all of our 3rd party games. The 360 and PS3 are too close to the price of a the Wii. That's it ladies and gentlemen time to pack up and start the next system this cow is bone dry. The old bags, and the moms are done with us.
"LMAO they had 5 full weeks we had one, and the gap was pretty small." Well After the first week sales dropped off around 50% for the PS3. Wii had it's price cut and the increase wasn't nearly as impressive as the PS3 even though sales are at their highest during the first week of an announced price. Let me put that in perspective for you. Sony's price drop was big, it made your company decide to drop it's price as well, because who wants to pay for a Wii when for $50 more you can get a PS3, that early next year will have everything the Wii does, and much much more. The thing Nintendo has going for them is the ignorance of the casual market. Until Sony and MS let them know EVERYTHING their systems can do then Nintendo will continue to suck them in. Sony and MS need to start a new campaign: 1. They have a video store on their systems (Sony you don't need to pay to get one) 2. 2hey have WAY better online gaming (Sony's is free). 3. They work with you HD TV not against it (Wii's only SD). 4. Games for EVERYONE (Sony Ratchet, Uncharted, Killzone, Singstar, GT5, God of War, etc...) (MS Viva Pinata, Splinter Cell, Gears of War, Singing game, Forza, Halo, etc...) 5. All the extra features, and connectivity the Wii doesn't have (easy for Sony). 6. PS3 and 360 are Multimedia devices, Wii tried but stuck with casual gaming. 7. PS3 only does Everything, 360 does just about everything, Wii well you can do something on it.
Had to bring up PS3 and 360 in a Wii article just so you could praise the PS3 and bash both 360 and Wii at the same time. Very efficient. Almost all the good games on Wii are first party exclusive. They are few and far between though. Microsoft has some of the highest rated and highest selling first and third party exclusive games this generation. 2009 has been a little slow for Microsoft exclusive games. Yet I have not been lacking in new games to play at all this year. The PS3 only fans seem to think that third party games aren't important. It's strange too, considering the highest selling games on PS3 are third party. Do they disregard third party games because a vast majority play better on the 360 even here in 2009? I don't know. I do know that I am perfectly happy with the past, present and future gaming library that is being offered on the 360. In fact, so much so that I am not willing to spend $300 + to play the two games that I am interested in on PS3. In any case Nintendo has nothing to fear from any one at this point and they know it. EDIT: MY bad about PS3. Thank you for politely bringing it to my attention. Bubble up to you ABizzel1!
Well it is a Wii article talking about the PS3 so he's in the right if you ask me, and I don't care if you disagree. And since you have 2 of the 3 consoles in it's only fair to bring in the other. Why be mean and leave the 360 out. But bashing the 360 shouldn't be done here.
If you include the Wii in the discussion, which I do not, then you have to admit that the Wii won this gen. I don't see Wii worrying about Sony or anyone for a long time. Then again, the Wii is moving hardware, but software appears to be a different matter. The "hardcore" games sell really poorly on that console. If it's not a 1st party game, or doesn't have party in the title, it looks like Wii owners pass.
I agree, partially, on the games front. The thing is that when Nintendo make games they make great games and the fact that it's made by Nintendo is pretty much a guarantee that it is going to be great, they just make quality games. Trouble is that 'hardcore' games made by third party developers are not of Nintendo quality. Tbh most third party developers look for cash-ins, they don't make something that is truly great. As fun as something like Madworld or Deadspace Extraction are, they haven't got the same quality. And they were also poorly advertised, I barely saw any advertising, the only reason I knew it existed is because I'm a gamer.
MasFlowKiller "what the wii need is games, they are in the same boat as the 360, lack of innovative exclusives only available in their console, you see how both MS and Nintendos price cut failed null in response to the PS3 price cut" Wii still sales more games and hardware than Sony does. Also Sony had to launch a new model and do a 100.00 price cut. Of course they will see a bigger increase at first compared to only a 50.00 price cut and no new model from Nintendo. "i would have thought that sony's price cut would force these companies to make better games to compete, i guess i was wrong." You seriously expected the quality of games to jump up after only a month or two? That shows a seriously lack of understanding to how games are made. Lifendz, "Then again, the Wii is moving hardware, but software appears to be a different matter. The "hardcore" games sell really poorly on that console. If it's not a 1st party game, or doesn't have party in the title, it looks like Wii owners pass. Red steel, Call of Duty3 and [email protected], Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Force unleashed, HOTD2&3, Rayman, Resident Evil4 and Umb Chron,Shaun White, Tiger Woods, are all over 1 million and Wii games dont even need that much in sales to turn a profit. Also none of them contain "party" in the name To be honest most of the poor selling 3rd party games people bring up, they passed on them also. 3rd parties have decent sales on Wii for the quality they put into the game and the amount of marketing they get.
Reggie does have a point about the PS3 having more time with its price cut, but he won't be able to say the same thing next month!
The Wii is practically doubling the PS3 in weekly US sales, so he won't have to say it this month. Week of October 3 Wii - 167,605 PS3 - 84,329 Week of October 10 Wii - 185,189 PS3 - 78,820 Week of October 17 Wii - 180,203 PS3 - 105,120 Week of October 24 Wii - 189,779 PS3 - 93,086 Week of October 31 Wii - 180,620 PS3 - 94,703 October Total Wii - 903,396 PS3 - 456,058 Ouch.
Kill it with fire.
He must have his anti-phase field up then:) Sorry, couldn't resist, the word you're looking for is "FAZE". On topic, it may not have been selling as much as before, but it is still selling well. Besides I don't think even Nintendo, expected the Wii to sell as much. To me, it looked like they wanted the WII to be different from the PS3 and the XBOX 360, because they cannot compete in with them terms of technical merits. It just happens that it sold really well. But what I think they should worry about, is the jump to HD. The affordability they had with the WII, will not be there once they go HD. Another thing is, it looks like both SONY and MS, are looking to steal a march on them, both will be releasing motion controls before the next NINTENDO CONSOLE iteration, by that scenario, I don't think NINTENDO can catch lightning in a bottle twice.
no he doesn't, because even if the wii didn't drop price, its still cheaper than the triple lol
What happened to Nintendo seriously. You would think that they would come out with a 10x's more advanced console than the GC but instead chose to go backwards and make the lame ass Wii. They're not part of this next-gen console war because they're using old tech which has been on the market for 10 years now. Whoever bought a Wii got scammed in to buying a PS2 with a flashy controller.
Not quite, I would take a PS2 over a Wii anyday. The Wii wishes it had a game library like the PS2.
They made an incredbley smart decision for them. There profits have soared, unlike microsoft and sony, who have lost money on both of there next gen machines. you may not like but they did what was right for them at the time.
But they are in panic mode all of a sudden because they got so used to it (walking to the bank). And yet, they have no real strategy for the HD market. I hope they've banked enough cash. But like a fast race car with an half empty tank (and half the weight), you need two pit stops for the whole distance. We'll see if they time that right.
I can't see how anyone could possibly believe that Nintendo made a mistake with the Wii. 50 million sold in less than 3 years, profitable from day 1 and still a strong seller. Panic mode? Every single detractor has been wrong about the Wii since the beginning. For more people it's about the fun than the flash, and there's way more opportunity to have fun with a room full of your friends on the Wii than the other platforms. Seems to me that Microsoft and Sony forgot that some people have real friends that come over to play video games, not just e-friends over the online networks. This is why Nintendo succeed and the other two fight for second place.
Oh, paaleeease. Keep lying to yourself. The games in the top ten is an add on: Wii Sports; which even I bought for the second controller and the nunjuk. Then there is Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus, and now, people upgrade to Wii Sports Resort because everybody gets tired of bunching the same face over and over again. All other titles get beaten by 360/PS3 games every week. What does that tell you about the demographic or actually usage of that little box ? I guess the "hard core" Wii install base is in reality below the 360/PS3. The rest is Mum's and Dad's who want to have a fitness gimmick (easily 50%). Japan shows the trend. Europe dropped hard, only US is somewhat keeping up (but most likely that market sells over price like no other - no matter what the product is). I believe Nintendo will loose Europe soon. If not during the holiday season, then after that. US I don't know, but I also believe they will drop down. I'd be in panic mode. That is a loss of more then 50% of the overall Wii business. They have to react. The price drop obviously confirms that. The tech can just go so far. With previous titles and rehashes its just hitting a wall. To progress game play (not just visuals) they need more power. If they don't react soon, it'll be over - soon.
@ju the last time nintendo was in panic mode they made the nes the next time they made the wii. I like panic mode nintendo because it leads to super nintendo. Also who cares about sales anyway it's about the games. You may not like them for whatever reason but their are plenlty hardcore gamers looking forward to the games coming out. On top of this people like your self seem to have a hard time finding good games on it. I don't find that very hardcore. Hell the wii is actually how you can tell a real hardcore gamer from a fanboy or the sheepcore which are controlled by pr and hype. I have no problem entertaining my self with wii exculsive content or others. I have something like 250 vc games 50 games on disk and a few imports. You guys are missing out but even better you are taking your self out of the real console market as consumers so that eventualy devs will not have to make content just for you. We can get back to making games that real gamers love. So many of you claim oh look at the hd game sales. Well Mario kart wii sold 14 and it's the best one yet. Oh look at the ratings, well we told you thoughs guys where bought out lol. Adults and real gamers don't need to be told what to buy. And the wii shows this. The ps3 is only affecting previous xbox 360 owners. Once these guys get to play these Sony exclusives and get underwhelem then the trade in counts will rise again. Gamers are going to kill the hd consoles watch.
Well Reggie, the Wii is soon to be considered dead. We are not impressed with Wii's "power" or "graphics" (which looks a whole lot than PS2) The price cut to 200 bucks doesn't come close to what it deserves to cost.....I was thinking more like 80 bucks. And Reggie, one more thing....next years E3, how about having actual games shown instead of showing new crappy exercise equipment, and talking about how much "america" lovse using the wii.
Reggie is sleeping on the mountain of cash that the Wii has generated over the last 3 years. Until the Wii stops selling, which it hasn't yet, neither Sony nor Microsoft is going to catch them in this generation.
Shareholders don't care how much you "made", they want to know how much you "make". (Sad truth).
How long has Nintendo been going in the gaming industry compared to Sony and MS? And they are still here after competitors have fallen. And they will still be here for a long time. So why should they be phazed anyway after how much money they've been making, and continue to make. People love to hate on the Wii but the fact is it has got great games, a hell of a lot of exclusive games. And it's bringing in a lot of new gamers which, even though the so called 'hardcore' would disagree, is very good for the industry. How many hardcore gamers are going to buy the motion hardware for the 360 and ps3 after they've ridiculed it so much? But of course these motion controllers are going to be used for 'hardcore games'. Yeah right.
'People love to hate on the Wii but the fact is it has got great games, a hell of a lot of exclusive games.' You got that right, it's got seven exclusives this month in Europe. Seven! how many have the 360 and PS3 got!?
I would like to elaborate on your comment about casual gamers. All the money that the casual audience brings into gaming also goes into hardcore games. It's silly to bash the Wii or Microsoft(for paying for DLC and other so called money hatting)for that matter, for bringing more money into gaming.
Who the hell is Reggie? Him and Cammy, that 80yr old idiot should shut up. NoA is ruining Nintendo. Let Shiggy run the show and stop gaying up Nintendo!
I hate to see what happens in December when FF13 comes out. I think it will be bad for a every system except on the PS3. But I might be wrong since FF12 sold a bit less than any other FF game.
Will armageddon happen!? Will we be forced to whimper in our cellars? Will the apocalypse be upon us?!!! What will it do?
For some reason I can't stand Reggie.
He is annoying, but to be fair most of the consoles ceos are quite annoying and totally out of touch.
And what are these titles? The only thing I know that is worth a second look is Super Mario Wii. LOL...I can't even count 7 games I'm crazy about on the Wii since launch. Its true the Wii has put on a clinic this generation in regards to sales buts its only b/c Nintendo sold out. I'm just thankful Sony and Microsoft hasn't.
I said specifically for Europe, we're playing catch up for America but the titles are Rabbids Go Home(awesome game), Need for Speed: Nitro, A Boy and his Blob, Muramasa, Tales of Symphonia 2, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles. Yet you'll completely disregard all seven of those for various BS reasons...
I particularly liked the way he praised MS2 and said he was going to play it. no stupid console wars talk. also to people saying he is in panic mode what eactly do you mean by that? yes wii is down YoY but not matching 2008's insane numbers doesnt mean they are suddenly panicing. it seems they have outsold PS3 worldwide in october and will probably continue to do so, though it is clear that Japan is a big problem for nintendo, though im glad to see they are taking steps in the right direction. Whilst outselling the competition and raking in the money im not sure why they need to panic
What I can't understand is the neglect when week after week Wii outsold both Ps3 and Xbox360 combined sales and people actually thought PS3 or the Xbox360 outsold the Wii. Lol heck hardware movement for GOTY GTAIV shot the Xbox360 and PS3 up so high, then Wii's numbers came in and anyone looking at the NPD would scratch their heads.
The point I'd like to make is this... This philosophy of lesser hardware and more casual games like Wii Fit etc will only last as long as the Wii itself. Once the Wii lifecycle is complete, and that time is rapidly approaching as Nintendo is releasing their final flagship titles, Mainly Zelda, Metroid and Mario, there will be a new system. And when that system comes out? It will be Blu-Ray and HD. Just because Reggie says it isn't doesn't mean a damn thing. By that time, PS3 will be crushing everything with both exclusives and third party games, and Nintendo will wake up and understand that they didn't really truly escape competing with the other companies by creating a new market...they were only able temporarily avoid it for a single generation.
Well how long do you think Sony will take to recuperate their losses? A long time. That's not even happening now.
reached a certain threshold (like 250 which the Wii started at) will only provide a temporary boost. Game over Nintendo.
Game over? lol. Do you not see the sales? Nintendo is still on top.
In comes mom and Dad to the gaming market. Feeling safe with the G,PG rated games, Price is good, comfortable with the Controller, getting in shape and feeling healthy, enjoying parties and entertaining friends. Its pretty easy to see Home Enertainment Consoles will be taking over television for past time, or as I like to call them (HEC). (Like this is a HEC of alotta fun) Once Ma and Pa learn the basics, Like with the Wii, as with everything else in life, you always want more. Dad say's "Hey this game looks fun. I think we should try it" Mom Questions, "that's not for our Wii that only works on ( Insert Console Name Here ). Dad exclaims, "Lets buy one of those (Insert Console Name Here)! Look! it does all this other stuff to." And so it begins, But, What does it need to not make them fear there purchase? If you read the first paragraph in this comment, you already know. Just like Mom and Dad. I could have gone into more detail, But you get the idea. I hope.
A few problems here. Sony and ms don't know how to make fun games. 3rd parties will keep telling the hardcore what to buy and ignore every one else unless they are on the wii. You see ms and Sony have failed to make gaming console and now compete with the school pc buyers and pending pc price drops. People only care about features if they want them. There are still poeple pizzed about their HDTV purchase because of the picture quality. I think more people will leave hd consoles along and move to pcs because of better features and Internet.
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