Variety: Dedicated servers and Rage - news you probably don't want to hear

Variety writes:

John Carmack, co-founder and technical wizard of the developer, says the company doesn't plan to support dedicated servers for the multiplayer component of "Rage," id's upcoming new action game.

"It's not cast in stone yet, but at this point no, we don't think we will have dedicated servers," he says.

Infinity Ward made the same decision for "Modern Warfare 2" and has been facing a massive backlash among its fans. The inevitable online petition has gathered over 183,000 signatures and even the developer has acknowledged the backlash.

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Greywulf5140d ago

And what thanks do you get?

( cue rkelly s*(&( on you video )

mastiffchild5140d ago

Greywulf-you prolly know I've been saying for some time that IW would just be the thin end of a crappy wedge for PC gamers. Decs and manyfacturers and publishers are getting greedy as they know what they can get away with on consoles. Console gamers, insyead of seeing the good that comes from having a vibrant PC scene feel likwe PC gamers shouldn't get special treatment for less money(also forgetting that it's the PC gamers themselves making the mods, running the servers).

This is sh1tty. But is it more crappy than the trnd towards fewer games that are console exc,.lusive to 360 not going to PC these days? Gmes like Fable2 and Gears2 would have used to be certs for PC but not now. Do you think AW will ever appear on PC now it looks like MS want it as a TRUE 360 exclusive?

I tell you the PC gamer is being sqyeezed out here and it stinks. What's worse is when IW lied about why like we're all stupid! If Sony can manage some dedicateds for most first party PS3 online games why not PC stalwarts like iD?

It stinks and if PC gamers, 360 gamers and PS3 gamers can't sand together over this we'll all get shafted harder and harder and forever. They rely on the lack of support between the communities(which m,ust turn into ONE community of GAMERS)if treatment like this isn't going to become even worse for us all. I know a lot of people ae sick of me banging on but when we're all paying more and getting much less on PC AND on console don't say you weren't told what was happening.

It's been true for an age but gets moreso every day-we're one of the worst treated bunch of consumers there is today and for a largely computer literate bogy it's a disgrace we can't get our act together to sop it. Here endeth the rant. Again.

sikbeta5139d ago

MAN, this is starting to be something common or what, Damn!!!

mistajeff5140d ago

*clings to Valve for dear life*

omni_atlas5140d ago

Well id, you've lost my money a long time ago, and sure as hell not getting it back.

You want my money, you gotta earn it.

Saryk5139d ago

It will depend on the single player for me to buy it. If it is MW2 length, no thanks.


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Rage's Open World Was Intimate & Memorable, Not Another Huge, Empty Sandbox

Rage from id Software and Bethesda Softworks was largely overlooked, yet its handcrafted FPS open world and memorable characters transcend genre convention.

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Fist4achin1472d ago

I enjoyed the first game. I plan to play the sequel soon!


Here are Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE & Resident Evil 2 Remake with Ray Tracing

YouTube’s members ‘Digital Dreams’ and ‘Jose cangrejo’ have shared some videos, showcasing Pascal Gilcher’s Reshade mod – which adds Ray Tracing/Path Tracing effects – in some really old games such as Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE and Resident Evil 6.

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traumadisaster1624d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada071624d ago (Edited 1624d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X141624d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase1623d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted1624d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster1624d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack1624d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH1619d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.