Ninja Gaiden Sigma Versus Ninja Gaiden Black: Hi-Res Screenshot Comparison

A hi-res screenshot comparison was made between Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Black. The article covers some of the graphical details that each game appears to be utilizing and some of the upgrades and similarities that both games share, visually.

[DJ]

because the PS3 version has significantly more detail, as well as better shader effects, etc, etc. It's hard not to notice the difference.

[nice_cuppa]

im sure in motion the difference is more notisable but i got to say im not that impressed !

its not like it looks bad !
its just not that much different.
it will still be a great game.

[Xbot_Killer]

someone even said the xbox pics look cleaned up, doctored, anti-aliased, all the dirty tricks microsuck is known for. and it stil pales to the PS3 version. Same thing with Gears, anyone who has played it knows it's a far cry from all the "screen shots" that get posted around the net.

[Cartesian3D]

lighting ... ther is no lighting in Xbox version
ninja detiails .. there is no detial in xbox version all of the details are texture not polygons.. in ps3 version they make all of the details in 3d not on textures..
environment detail are not comparable..

[cyguration]

I just don't understand why we're supposed to cheer on the Xbox 360 when the former big-black-box had games that looked as impressive as some PS3 ports.

This was certainly not the case if you compare the PSX and the SNES.
Or the N64 and the Sega Genesis. I know the PS3 is a pain to program for, but what's the excuse for the 360? It was supposed to be developer friendly. Why do so many of the games still not look impressive? Why was the original Xbox so cool and different and comparable to the PS3, but the 360 is having a hard time distinguishing itself?

M$ needs to step it up...and Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect better be excellent, otherwise I'll be pissed.

[FeralPhoenix]

"Shouldn't that mean that the 360 should be wiping the floor with the PS3 if its little brother has similar visual traits to games released within the first six months of the PS3's debut?"

-Well as I and many have already said before Team Ninja has always produced some of the most graphically impressive games on any platform. Which is why Ninja Gaiden Black still looks impressive compared to Sigma on PS3, but whats wierd is this comparison makes you dissapointed in 360 games even though its the PS3 version of NG Sigma thats in question here.

Why not wait for NG2 on the 360, before you get any further "dissapointed?" Wow, I guess things have changed since it was always the PS3 which was "supposed" to mop the floor with the 360 in the graphics dept......but hey, both consoles are OUT NOW, and reality has set in.

[Edit]^^^^^ ha, ha I just noticed you changed your comments, took out the statements about being dissapointed etc. but adding other nonsense like 360 games not being impressive and of course the PS3 gets a "pass"/excuse....the n you go on to say that LO and ME better be excellent or you'll be pissed. -lmfao, somehow I think either way "YOU" will be "pissed." -Like I said things have changed...but some things never change. -lol

[THWIP]

1.) This has NOTHING to with the 360, so your comment is incredibly off topic to begin with.

2.) The fact that there's little difference between XBOX NG, and PS3 NG, is a testament to the XBOX...certainly NOT a negative for the 360. ???? If anything, it shows just how much the PS3 struggles to "impress".

Your logic (or lack thereof) is so flawed, I really don't know why I bothered to try and correct you. :o

[cyguration]

Actually THWIP, think about it this way:
What PS2 game can you compare to the PS3, graphically? And actually go "Wow" the PS2 almost looks like the PS3? None. That's a testament to the upgrade the PS3 has over the PS2. If you look at the change from the Xbox to the Xbox 360, it's not quite as impressive. The screenshots showcase how the original Xbox was a breakthrough in gaming and yet it's not the same for the 360, so far.

And FeralPhoenix...I did modify the comments to be a little less rant worthy, but the gist is still the same.

"Why not wait for NG2 on the 360, before you get any further "dissapointed?"

That's the problem, why are we still waiting for good 360 games a year and a half after its release? The good 360 games seem to be coming the same time as the uber-cool PS3 games. I'm not giving the PS3 a "free pass", I'm just saying that a year ago we were still comparing Xbox games to Xbox 360 games and a year later we're still comparing Xbox games to PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Why is it taking the Xbox 360 so long to evolve past its former generation? That's what's disappointing. The PS3 has only been out for six months...but I'm sure a year from now the PS3 won't even be in the same sentence with the words "original Xbox" and "comparison".

I guess I should have stated my point a bit clearer.

[Grown Folks Talk]

is a shorter margin than PS2 to PS3. let's compare with apples. PS2 graphics = 4 apples xbox = 7 apples PS3 and 360 = 10 apples. 6 apples stand out more than 3, but you end up at the same result.

[THWIP]

...and yet you managed to make yourself look EVEN MORE ignorant, by explaining yourself further.

Let me put this into layman's terms for you: The PS2 was the clear-cut LCD(Lowest Common Denominator.....weakest) platform of last-gen; in multiplatform games, the XBOX...and even GC....looked considerably better. AGAIN, that's a testament to the superior hardware of the XBOX...as well as a damning testimony to the disappointment of the "Emotion Engine". That games like Ninja Gaiden, DOOM 3, Riddick, Thief: Deadly Shadows, Far Cry, Half-Life 2, etc. looked almost "next-gen"....and were in NO WAY possible on the PS2 or GC....is just a feather in MS's cap. It only stands to reason that the jump in graphical fidelity from PS2 to PS3 would be more obvious, since the PS2 hardware has been outdated, and underpowered since the XBOX launched in 2001.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW??

*edit* LOL, 'GFT'...the whole "apples" thing will only serve to confuse him more, I'm afraid. :D :p

[cyguration]

THWIP, I understood him just fine. I respect the comparison because that's sort of what I was saying all along.

It's not about whether the PS2 was the most powerful console of the last gen, or if the Xbox was the most powerful.

*Edit: It's more so that a lot of people (myself included) expected the same kind of "wow" factor from the 360 that the original Xbox had when it first debuted with Halo. It was expected of M$ to out-do what they did the first time around.

[PhinneousD]

Your logic is undeniably coming from a simpleton. You should be a little bit embarrassed by your comment, I sure would be. :-/ Oh yeah, your dad peed in your mother, that makes sense.

[AcidRhain]

You're making yourself look like a fool.

[Saint Sony]

edited: .. nothing to see here ;)

[anh_duong]

i am sorry but i have played ng BLACK on the xbox (i own an xbox) and they have never ever looked anything like the pictures william usher is using... if willy usher is comparing those xbox pics with the ps3 pics then he is either smoking some serious shiite or his original xbox has been overclocked with a 8800gts graphics card and core duo processor. bad reporting. how the heck can he justify using those xbox 'screenshots'? it's bloody obvious he is only using those touched-up photo to misrepresent a point.

william usher i must admit is a massive douche bag. not only does he write stupid negative artciles about the ps3 but also silly negative articles about the xbox 360. i think the guy comes from the school of sensationlist reporting - he thrives on over reporting. read his last article about nextgen games not being nextgen if you don't believe what i mean.

william ussher == sensationalist reporter extraordinnaire

[THWIP]

That's NG: Black...which had enhanced visuals over the original. :o

[anh_duong]

you mean enhanced by photoshop - the version of NG: BLACK willy usher was using.

[Booneral]

If you play Ninja Gaiden: Black on a standart definition TV, yeah they look nothing like those Xbox shots. But the title says it all, Hi-Res comparison.

[Watkins]

Exactley what I was thinking all along .. That simply cannot be the Black version I've played

[anh_duong]

look again at the xbox pictures willy usher is using. how can you seriously tell me that the xbox version looks like that? they sure don't look like that on my 1080p 52inch le86mbdx. maybe my tv ain't good enough.

[xfrgtr]

"sorry, but the xbox game doesn't look THAT good while actually playing it on xbox. Theres jaggies etc... these screens are doctored or anti aliased. Don't you know that or are you trying something here?

And, the smaller the screens, the less detail is visible. Ninja Gaiden Sigma looks MUCH, MUCH ,m MUCh better on a big HD screen than the xbox version."
cinemablenb is a well known antisony site,take a look at the real screenshots of this game
http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

[cyguration]

If you played NG: B on your 360 with an HDTV (not SD) using a VGA component cable, how can the game look as awful as you say it does?

In HD NG: B on the Xbox (or 360) certainly doesn't look as bad as the Gamespot screenshots.

[Xbot_Killer]

talk about busted, yet another ms fanboy caught comparing doctored screenshots to the PS3. Didn't IGN just try to pull this BS with God of War 2 upscaling?? only to get called out on it all over the web.

FREAKING PATHETIC!!!!! is all I can say as this only proves how much xbots really fear the PS3 that they can't even give it a level playing field.

the end for the scratchbox is near.....muahahahhahahahha

[anh_duong]

the xbox pictures willy usher are using are pinsharp - look at how sharp the EDGES are, as sharp as anything seen on either xbox360, ps3 or pc. they are touched up. even the world and his wife knows they are touched up (to obviously falsely prove a mistaken point). upscaling causes an improvement in anti-alias at the expense of definition. the fact that the hi-res upscaled pictures are pinsharp must surely ring alarm bells. willy usher is a fraud. journalism and integrity don't sit well together with the guy. how the hell can you use doctored photos when comparing screenshots???

i know some people like to disagree with me but maybe you should check the ingame (where you can't doctor the photos so easily) comparison video. the differences between black and sigma in video is much greater than some touched up screeshot comparison. NB: the ps3 version is actually downscaled to 720p so graphics portrayed for ps3 is actually worst than reality.

http://www.playstatic.com/n...

willy usher is a fraud.

[Bloodmask]

Ninja Gaiden black has better graphics than and looks more next gen than probably over half the 360 and PS3 games. This is not a testament to anything except team ninjas talent....This game was in development for three years. It's just sad now because fanboys will rant about how next gen it bc its on PS3, when it was next gen already on its initial release...Black was a defining masterpiece for the genre..........If anything comparing the two will make the PS3 look underpowered, bc the xbox version was so good......same could be said for God of War 2.

[tplarkin7]

Technically, NGB uses less polygons than your average Xbox game. It also uses zero normal maps and lacks realtime shadows. But it is an artistic masterpiece that runs at 60 FPS. Your statement that NGB looks better than 360 games is false on a technical level. It is even more false to saw that God of War 2 looks next-gen. Having said this, the Xbox 1 was incredibly powerful.

[masterg]

Okay who ever cant see a major difference needs to get their eyes checked. I'm not saying the Xbox doesn't look good. The others just look that much better... Especially the last picture.

[spacetoilet]

I'd say the old xbox NG still holds its own.
The new one is just a little crisper and more detailed. Backgrounds are always a little crappy in these games though.

[Close_Second]

...is show how superior the original Xbox was in terms of graphical prowess over the PS2. The PS2 could never pull off NG: Black to the level the Xbox did.

As for comparing it with the upcoming PS3 release - what's the f**king point. Of course the PS3 version looks 10 times better, hell if it didn't then the PS3 would be in real trouble.

[kewlkat007]

Version to the PS3, with the HD that is expected.

Then again, that XBOX version looked great. I don't see Gigantuous differences like I would of Expected.

Yes, the PS3 version looks great, no doubt, but not great enough to purchase the game a second time on the PS3. Xbox had some killer Graphics, thx to the Ninja Team.

On another note, speaking in the future: How would you make the PS3 version look better? I mean, it looks great now, I just can't see a game looking better than that at 1080p in the future, for it to make a difference, not just for me , but for a lot of peeps.

The next step, games have to look "REAL" like real people or the graphics won't look like a big deal to me.

[AcidRhain]

But the ps3 isn't anything impressive for a 'next-gen' title as it is just a port with updated textures and added playable boobie-bouncing Rachel. I'm still not gonna buy it, just to play Rachel and duel wield 2 katanas... that's not adding much from the original. But more NG love for everyone is always good I suppose... even though PS noobs don't deserve the title. Yup I said it. :-P

[kingboy]

you want true difference?watch the bloody video
http://www.gamevideos.com/v...

[kewlkat007]

that the PS3 doesn't look better, I don't think thats the point. We just think, looking back at the XBOX version, it looked pretty sweet at the time, and as an Original XBOX owner, the graphics onthe PS3 version would not in any way sway me to purchase a PS3 because of. IMO

No need to boast with PS3 videos unless it make you feel better.
Oh yeah and what "gnothe1" commented on down below.

[gnothe1]

if you guys had play NG black on a HD TV running component at at 720p then you'll see that that game looks just like those pics.I notice everytime theres something that doesnt really go in the PS3 favor the sony guys always make excusses.the Ps3 graphics does look better, but not 10x better as guys are saying.plus if you read the editor notes at the bottom of the screen it says that those are developer released screens.

whats funny is, there haven't been 1 person that bought this game for the xbox1 that willing to buy it again for the PS3(im not either)because im not seeing that big of difference that says I need to buy it again!!

[anh_duong]

i could say the same to you i.e if you had the chance to play ng sigma on a large 1080p display..

watch the hd comparison video the difference is like the difference between night and day..

please don't be so naive. how the heck can you accept developers released photos as a true representation of what the game looks like - can't you remember all the publishers got (successfully) sued a while back for releasing touched up photos purporting to represent ingame footage?? touching up of photos happened a lot during the ps2 and xbox era. i think the law has changed now for the better.

oh btw the comment: "(Editor's Note: The PS3 screenshots are from a recent press release by Tecmo, while the Xbox screenshots are the ones Tecmo released during E3 2005)" was only recently added by cinemablend (hence it is in bold with Editor's Note statement). i think even cinemablend now realises they have screwed up over this shoddy article - you can't just compare photos given to you from a publisher - especially those that come from an era (ps2 and xbox) where photos were routinely doctored.

Furthermore, if my memory serves me correctly (thanks wiki) then those supposedly HIRES photos where released FIVE MONTHS BEFORE (yes, before) you could actually buy a 360 and THREE MONTHS (yes, three months) before the game actually shipped. Hmmm.. for a game that was marketed as an original xbox game why the hell would they use HIRES ingame pictures on a gaming system that wasn't even available in their official marketing strategy?? the fact is those pictures are doctored original xbox pictures - a common thing that developers used to do - there is nothing hires about it, just plain old photoshop.

[FeralPhoenix]

I don't know if they have been "touched up" or not it does say Hi Res, but anyway I did download it on my PS3, and I can tell you it looks f-kin' awesome. Team Ninja did a great job, but the only reason I'm not buying it the PS3 version is that basicly its the same game I already played on my xbox, just "prettier", I know it has extra content and another playable charachter, but playing through the demo, which is understandably a short piece of the game, its really the same game. As for PS3 owners who haven't played it before its definitely a must buy, since Team Ninja took a great game and made better than before. -Enjoy.

[CrazzyMan]

you won`t see a big difference in 800x450.

just look how differs rr6(uspcaled) and rr7(native) in 1080p - http://images.eurogamer.net...
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Honestly I dont care. NG Black was fun as is Sigma since they are the same game except ps3 has an extra character and level and even though the xbox version looked good, of course the ps3 version is going to look better. The surprising thing is how xbox holds its own.

Bring on Ninja Gaiden 2 to 360 Itagaki then we can do some comparisons.

[wildcat]

You said in the other thread that you didn't like button mashers. And now Ninja Gaiden is fun...

[HowarthsNJ]

The game runs in 480P. Go check any game site image archive to see the real GP images.

Do the same with NGS, then compare. Simple.

Suddenly the argument goes away.

[Dareaver1]

NG: Black ran at 720p, such an uninformed comment. Most Original XBox games ran at 720p. Unless you didn't have a hd display at that time. NG: Black has always been impressive visually. And this iteration is no different, it looks impressive. Take the NG: Black's CG cutscenes and turn them into FMV and thats Sigma, which is a remarkable feat. But don't downplay NG: Black to sway your argument. It has always been impressive graphically. Plus the ps3 is pulling Self Shadowing and running at 60fps. That's a lot of work there. It's the quality of the picture. When going to next-gen the developers are looking to make even the little things better. This is at no threat to the might of the PS3 so all of you need to calm down! It's just an impressive game, and it's impressive on all the platforms it has had to grace.

[sajj316]

I can't believe that this article is comparing screens to make a point. The truth is that Sigma is running at 1080P at a solid 60 FPS. Even when black was upscaled to 720P on the 360, it still did not look as good as Sigma in motion and for some reason the upscaled 360 game looked a little washed out on my LCD. It looked nothing like those screens of the hi-res version of Black.

[PS360PCROCKS]

So wait this turned into a bash fest?? HOW?? This thread should be full of 'wow sigma looks great' and 'Damn look how good it looked orignally on the Xbox' but whatever I guess...this looked amazing on both systems

[omansteveo]

Where are the Madden 360/ps3 vs PSONE comp screens?

[kidd2446]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

[sabbath420]

What happend to the all powerful PS3? It barely measures up to the original box. That cell sure is doing the job eh!

[ngg12345]

the xbox could do hud lighting. Because the lighting in ninja gaiden black didn't have that hud lighting that they are showing.

[Charlie2688]

WOW talking about Photoshop Mr Usher, funny how having played the original NGB it didnt looked half this good, with those graphics on the original xbox why upgrade to the 360?

this fanboys are getting more desperate by the minute

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

See I can make a comment without bashing the PS3. They only added a little eye candy for the PS3 version but it still looks good, looks as good (if not a tad better do to the extra eye candy) as the Xbox version upscaled on the 360.

[HowarthsNJ]

"18.1 - Wrong!
NG: Black ran at 720p, such an uninformed comment."

Well, my copy of NGB shows 480P right on the box. I always make sure I know what I'm speaking of.

[Bhai]

360's games are no match for even PS2's masterpieces, like:

-Shadow of the Colossus
-God of War I-II
-Gran Turismo 4
-Okami
-Final Fantasy XII

Gameplay, visuals, innovation, physics, content...you name it.
These games kill every 360 game in each respective genre, and Shadow of
the Colossus going beyond genres. Great thing is that they all are now
in the catalogue of PS3 and in HD at that !!!

NG-Black was a good adventure but entirely featureless...no physics,
no photorealism, no reflections, just shiny textures. Games like
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory easily killed its visuals. Why hasn't it
sold so good even when it was the only good game in the already limited
games catalogue of xbox(maybe with Halo-2's exception). NG-Sigma is
basically also a texture-swap for its been made by the incompetent
Itagaki of 'Team Ninja'. Still NG-Sigma's poly-count blows NG-Black
into a pit. 1080p, self-shadowing, 60fps, dual weilding weapons, more
missions and multiple characters make this one a must-have in PS3's
first 6 months of life !!!

[sabbath420]

That may be your opinion. In my opinion you are freaking def, dumb, and blind. Amazing how you could make such a statement.

[lil bush]

well, my friend has NGB and it looks nothing like that, but anyway they both look good...........