Neocrisis: Halo: Reach vs Resistance 3

EPiC FUiL from Neocrisis writes: Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Forza Motorsport 3... Killzone 2, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Resistance 2... These six games all have something in common; they're console exclusives. They have proven that they sell very well in their own way, ranging from 2 million sales on day one, to around 10 million in a few months. These six games are also sequels or prequels from previous well-known games to the gaming community.

What makes these exclusives any better than other exclusives or multiplatform games? What differentiates an exclusive game on one console to another? How does an exclusive gain so much hype and sell so well at launch? The answers to these three questions vary from fanboy to fanboy, usually being "because it has better graphics", or "because Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 is the best" (also, these things are commonly said by these fanboys even before a game is released).

[LordMarius]

umm hard to choose since we dont know anything about them

[jazzking2001]

quite true

[Bnet343]

Certain groups will choose anyway.

[QuackPot]

But we do know what the developers are capable of doing.

If R3 is not fully revamped by going 'Modern Warfare' with fully usable vehicles, new appealing characters(goodies & baddies), have a slick presentation and narration then Halo:Reach will be the better game by a mile.

I'm sick of the Halo-haters not wanting this game on the Ps3. It's a huge success because Bungie got everything so right and delivered an appealing and fun game to play - just like Epic also did with Gears of War & IW did with Cod4:MW.

Reistance had - and still has - so much potential but Insomniac wanted to be different and DID NOT COPY Halo, Gears, or CoD4 - which they should have by taking the best things and improving on them.

Halo:Reach will be Bungie's swansong - the last Halo game. Odds are, they are going to do something awesome with the franchise. My money is on Halo:Reach being the must-have game to get unless Insomniac has a huge surprise. But based on R2 vs R1. I'm not holding my breath.

[JonnyBadfinger]

Exactly.

But if history teaches us anything, its Halo will be more hyped to the point it exceeds peoples expectations but seem to lack something that the first Halo CE had.

Im a self confessed Halo nerd and proud of it, but Halo 2 3 and ODST all seem to be missing something that Halo CE had.....i reckon that because not the enemies are nothing new and we all know the weaknesses it just lacks the same fear and panic attacks that Halo CE had.

Anyone remember fighting a Hunter for the first time??.... i died about 10 times before i killed 1!...... and they come in PAIRS DAMIT! but once i learnt their weakness it was so incredibly easy and the other Halo games are yet to implement a challenge like that again, well atleast for me anyway.

[mikeslemonade]

Resistance 3 will be a better game. Halo Reach will sell more. Insomniac is just a way better developer and more experienced. They have been making games longer and are able to put out huge games every year.

[QuackPot]

@JonnyBadfinger

Yeah, there'll be a lot of hype and Bungie clearly could have done better with the sequels. I'm sure they just don't like M$ who now own Halo.

But even so, this is their last Halo. They will go out with a bang for sure.

And frack yeah, Hunters rock in Halo. Just loved playing the Arbiter with dem giant MotherF* on your side.

BTW: doesn't Sony own Resistance. Hmmmmm? I wonder if Insomniac has as much love for this game as they clearly do with R&C.

[ABizzel1]

There are a ton of things I have listed that they can do to make R3 the best it can be, but here is a quick version of the 5 pages I wrote after playing R2 last year.

Campaign should be with Nathan Hale (I want to finish the story with him). Set in present day, and the humans have lost the war. Hale is making his final stand for humanity, before he changes completely. I think Hale should die at the end, and the humans gain the courage to fight back after Hale severely weakens their defense using his ability to understand the Chimera. Bring the Weapon Wheel back, all the old enemies plus new enemies, and all the old weapons plus new weapons and if some of the weapons don't fit in the present day setting upgrade them to present day versions. And if at all add 4 player online co-op for the single player, and at least 2 player split screen. Oh and add a little fearful moments in the game like the Grims in the houses from R2 to startle us every now and then.

Single Player campaign- Resistance:FOM meets Halo meets Killzone 2

Separate co-op should be pretty much the same it was in R2, maybe 12 players instead of 8 this time. Add better animations, because characters were kind of stiff in R2, and don't have everything so predictable, you knew exactly what was going to happen, get and AI director like Left 4 Dead.

Online Co-op- R2 meets Left 4 Dead

Online Multiplayer is probably going to be 80 - 120 players which is fine having the big numbers and all, but MAG is 256 which isn't going to be beat by R3. I think you should keep the 60 player, but add vehicles (stalkers, tanks, jeeps, chimeran ships, etc...) and balance everything better. Both Halo and Warhawk have vehicles and both games are almost perfectly balances still, so you can do it too Insomnaic.

Online Multiplayer- R2 meets Warhawk meets Halo

I think those things would make R3 a near perfect game and review on par with the like of Uncharted 2.

Oh and R3 should look like Metro 2033. Look at the last 2 screens.

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[ABizzel1]

Now Halo Reach. I could have sworn I heard Bungie was using a new engine for Halo Reach, and if so I just hope they do more with Halo. It's starting to get stale. And even though I'm not the biggest Halo fan, I think the gameplay is as close to perfect as you can be, so they just need to do more with the story, the stages, and add more wow moments. It's hard trying to help a game that's kind of in it's own world.

Single player- Have a story that rivals film with better graphics and boom this game is going to get a majority of 10/10's when it hits. Since just about every other aspect of Halo doesn't need touching.

[Xbox Avatars Shoe]

Halo 3 and Resistance 2 were both HUGE disappointments to me so hopefully Reach and R3 redeem their respective franchises.

I've never been a big Halo fan but I expected evolutionary things from Halo 3. I'm only interested in Reach if it brings something radically new to the series.

Resistance: Fall of Man is still my favorite game of all time! I had so many magical experiences on that game! R2 was mediocre IMO. R2's co-op was great but campaign was only OK and multiplayer SUCKED! R2 strayed to far away from what made R: FoM so good like the weapon wheel, nonstop action, split-screen co-op, unique health system and other original features. I could go on and on about my disappointment in R2 but other Resistance fans have the same feelings so they already know what I'd say.

In short: I'm looking forward to the inevitable Resistance 3 WAY more than Halo Reach. R3 will definitely be made; R2's ending cannot be the ending of the series.

[sikbeta]

EPiC FUiL = EPiC FAiL

Resistance 3? where?

[PtRoLLFacE]

let me guess the king will be whipping as$ again

[Sevir04]

Halo reach will Sell bucket Loads Because it's Halo, Halo reach will look better than the other halo games because it Sports a new engine.
And it'll Likely be the victim of biased reviews scoring it high just because it's halo,

Resistance 3.. well We know it's in dev. :) and... thats all i'll say :)

[jazzking2001]

since i dont got a 360, i will want R3 lol
and now i will get asked to go to hell by saying that lol

[Sevir04]

So I'm With you On OWNING RESISTANCE 3

[SnuggleBandit]

sevir just tell us what you saw or shut your face! haha stop teasing us!

[ultimolu]

..I'm kidnapping you and holding you hostage until you spill the beans! >-<

[Sevir04]

:)

[tripewire]

Did someone get a sneak peek?

[00]

when there is no info about them. (besides being exclusive)

[jazzking2001]

an educated guess from its predecessors

[maxxb117]

By gathering info from the previous games in the series and making speculations.

[00]

that speculation can be completely wrong.

[maxxb117]

Yes, I agree, but as I've stated in the article, I wrote this only for entertainment purposes, not real competition.

[WMW]

i bet R3 will be the better game just looking at the devs and what they have done this gen but halo reach will get all the hype and make it seem better than it is like odst did.

[evrfighter]

right because R2 wasn't considered a failure by its own fans right?

[WMW]

halo 3 and halo 3 odst are considered the worst halos by its fans and the media so whats your point its sad that the best halo is the first one shouldn't the franchise be moving forward the first halo came out last gen step it up bungie.

[kaveti6616]

Halo 3 is not considered the worst by the media. It's multiplayer is considered the best, although I like Halo 2's multiplayer more. The only blight upon the halo franchise is the Halo 3 campaign and ODST. Other than that, the multiplayers are great and the campaign for Halo CE and Halo 2 were great.

[Darkfocus]

"right because R2 wasn't considered a failure by its own fans right?"

The reason R2 got criticism from its fans was for being to much like halo 8/

[Godmars290]

We know that PS3 titles have shown and been recognized for graphic quality, where as a 360 title has yet to set any benchmarks for this console generation.

In other words: Flame wars go!

[Sevir04]

and then The PS3 a year Later Obliterated it With Uncharted and then what follows was a snow ball effect with more games after games on the PS3(exclusives) and even a few multiplats like Batman:AA, RE5, and GB. showing out the xbox 360 exclusives.. and now we've got games like U2, KZ2, Soon to be GOW3, HR, TLG, and GT5 all showing up next year and they will each be setting new benchmarks for other games to try and match.

[Jack Klugman]

Gears of War set a benchmark and has spawned clones galore. Look at Quantum Theory for a perfect example of the wannabe's the playstation is still trying to put out to match the great experience Gears is.

Resistance.. well.. one of the worst FPS this gen. I don't expect much more from R3 and it sounds like even Insomniac know they are lacking when it comes to FPS. They are good at rehashing the same thing over and over, just look at R1 to R2 and the same 'ol Ratchet and Clank games. They hoped boosting the player count would distract people from mediocre game play.. MAG looks to be headed down the same path.

I expect Halo to step it's game up big time. A whole new engine, which MS off the record is claiming big things about it. The team they have put together to design it(even some former Uncharted team members). I expect Reach to hand Resistance the same whooping both R1 and R2 received when compared to the shooters on the 360 at the time of release.

[Obama]

"Gears of War set a benchmark"

That benchmark has been surpassed by ps3 games ages ago.

The best looking game on the 360 is still Gears of War 1/2. That means something doesn't it?

[Godmars290]

Any chance you can say *what* benchmark Gears set. No ones talking about its graphics certainly. Except in relation of differences between Gears 1 & 2. Quantum at least promises shifting terrain.

[hatchimatchi]

"...They are good at rehashing the same thing over and over, just look at R1 to R2 and the same 'ol Ratchet and Clank games..."

hmmm, it goes both ways my friend...

bungie:
halo
halo2
halo3
halo wars
halo odst
halo reach

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Graphic quality??? Well that would of worked for Uncharted 2 but not for Resistance 2. Resistance 2 graphic's graphics weren't even as good as Halo 3. I read a few reviews saying that Halo 2 looked better than Resistance 2.

HATCHAMATCHI,

Halo Wars is not a FPS. R&C is just the same platformer over and over.

[Jack Klugman]

Hatchi Halo Wars is an RTS.. Fail on that.

But I agree Halo is the signature franchise for MS and the 360 so you see lots of games.. I don't even want to get started on Metal Gear or Final Fantasy..

No Playstation fan has ground to stand on when talking about milking franchises.

[WMW]

both of those franchises have been on multiple platforms and both are 20 year old franchise halo started last gen and already has 6 games, over 20 books(including novels, comic ,art books and halo encyclopedias), clothes, toys, its own place on LIVE(halo waypoint), an anime and ms created a studio to make more halo games without bungie so don't compare halo to mgs or final fantasy.

[Godmars290]

I'm saying that *no one* is talking about Gears in terms of setting a graphic benchmark just like *no one* talks about Resistance. Halo for that matter.

Honestly, is there any chance we can talk about the possibilities of the systems themselves without talking down specific games on the other system?

I'm looking at you Klugman. At least try and acknowledge that Resistance has a group of people who like the game just like Halo and Gears.

[ReviewsArePolitics]

Halo 3 better looking than R2? LMAO, Halo 3 gets raped even by the first one. Halo 3 looks like a Xbox 1.5 game (or a 360 game, same thing). Also LOL at Resistance being labeled as "one of the worst FPS" lol lol lol, that is expected from a 360 fangirl, anything new you want to add? Please never have kids, your genes would contaminate the gene pool to the point of taking us 10000 years of evolution behind

[Jack Klugman]

Godmars: Touche. I can totally respect that Resistance has a following and I have to give props to Insomniac because they are a very capable developer. I'm expressing MY opinion only about the franchise but it comes off like I am trying to speak for everyone so my apologies.

[likedamaster]

No need to apologize Jack, you hit the nail on the head a couple o'times.

[ReviewsArePolitics]

This idiot labeled a great game "one of the worst FPS of this gen" and is also a known fanboy (also, lol @ expressing that Halo "will up its game" based on feelings and no facts) and yet he is given credit? N4G has reached a new low.

[Sevir04]

NAW! GEARs OF WAR Set The benchmark
and then The PS3 a year Later Obliterated it With Uncharted and then what follows was a snow ball effect with more games after games on the PS3(exclusives) and even a few multiplats like Batman:AA, RE5, and GB. showing out the xbox 360 exclusives.. and now we've got games like U2, KZ2, Soon to be GOW3, HR, TLG, and GT5 all showing up next year and they will each be setting new benchmarks for other games to try and match.

FANBOYS ON N4G ARE AMAZING

[foreverflame]

Halo reach hands down resistance series is nothing much more than halo rip off with a dumbass character that doesn't talk

[Mista T]

and cut the jibba jabba, the T man is here you sucka

[The Iron Sheik]

You obviously haven't played either Resistance games. Nathan Hale talks quite a bit.

[XKRUCI8]

If R3 is as disappointing as R2 then Halo: Reach will be the better choice.

[LordMarius]

i wont bother, its like choosing the best of the worst

i'll say Killzone 3

[foreverflame]

Halo ODST has already killed glitchzone 2,Expect Reach to shatter killzone 3 again

[LordMarius]

metacritic

Killzone 2 - 91
Halo: ODST - 84

Oh you meant sales my bad, I thought you meant the quality of the games

even Resistance 2 (87) beats it

CRY MOAR

[hatchimatchi]

halo games always crush titles when it comes to sales, it's like putting up ratchet and clank against mario. It's kinda stupid to compare which one will sell better.

me personally, i can't stand halo. I just never got into it. Everyone jumping around and using that sword thing. bleh

[foreverflame]

1,665 online

While halo 3 ODST

234,851

....

Resistance 2

667 online

Rip resistance(2006-2009)

[BX81]

WTF is a MOAR? What a tard!

[LordMarius]

no s*** sherlock, more sales = more players

@ the bot above me
http://www.urbandictionary....

get off the internet

[Jack Klugman]

Not even 2000 players playing KZ2.. LMAO!

Halo 3 a game that's 2 years old still has around 100k+ playing it. If that isn't a sign of a good game then I don't know what is.

4.8: If you think there has been no good games on the 360 for the last couple years you are going into the super fanboy ignorance stratosphere. I'm thinking it's more just weak spin.

[LordMarius]

maybe its a sign of the lack of games

@above, GeOW 2 and umm...ODST, that pretty much sums up your exclusive online games

[cereal_killa]

ForeverLame got his Muppet a$$ owned I really hope you enjoy all the royalties from all the Sales of Halo and Gears oh wait your not getting a dime you tool.

[hatchimatchi]

resistance 1&2 are both great games. I'll definitely be buying the third installment. I'm excited to see what insomniac will do with the online co-op. Not to mention the ending of r2 leaves it up in the air for insomniac to do whatever they want.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

I'm playing both.

[Homicide]

Apparently you're not :)

[Unicron]

*sigh*

It's too early for this crap.

[Godmars290]

You were honestly expecting something other than a flamebait article meant to generate hits? Civil, thoughtful conversation about the differences between the games mentioned?

You crazy...

[knightdarkbox]

Gears 2 is already better than Resistance..

Gears is much more fun for multiplayer and better graphics

Insomniac devs: noobs in games of fps

[The real killer]

You mean pixelsgears?

I like Gears (gameplay), but the quality is not better than Resistance 2. There are allot of pixel fault you know blurry when get upscaled to 1080p.

And Resistance 3 is never reveal by Insomniac.

[knightdarkbox]

resistence3>> another generic boring fps

[The real killer]

Man, there is NO Resistance 3, WTF talk you about?

[The real killer]

"Halo ODST has already killed glitchzone 2,Expect Reach to shatter killzone 3 again"

You know, play with that little kid game (Halo 3 ODLC) and take some cookie and be happy and talk ODLC with your mom how happy you are that mom you alow to play with ODLC.

You are so dumb you never play with real man games like Killzone 2.
So stay with your Gaylo and be happy.

"While halo 3 ODST 234,851"

That's the only game what the most Xtards have to play, i hear nothing more than gaylo this and gaylo that, what the hell is wrong with those little Xtards?

They playing games like old Gaylo rather than the real games what PS3 has to offer.

[Jack Klugman]

I can't stop laughing at the fact you say a "manly game" yet we are talking about plastic game consoles.. in other words. TOYS.

Not to mention you say things like "gaylo".. How manly of you!

Go get him big man! LMAO

[skeletonss]

Being worse developers than insomniac

[Jack Klugman]

And you come to this conclusion how?

Because last time I checked there are a heck of a lot more people playing Bungies games at any given time then there are Insomniac.

I'll go easy and leave scores and sales out of it.

[OptimusC]

doesn't this article actually mean 7 games? i read this article blurb and after the first sentence there is already an error...

[blu_yu_away]

Wow, so now we're comparing 2 games we haven't seen even a single screenshot off?

[QuackPot]

We're speculating on what two unreleased games might be like based on the track record of the developers.

chill and speculate. you might enjoy.

[Xbox360_is_GARBAGE]

this worl is full of retarded guys like this dumbs (knightdarkbox-Jack Klugman) sorry to said that but is true
if u r 1 of them u r allow to quote me

[TruthSeeker]

I disagree with whoever stated that Insomic games has more experince than bungie. Bungie was founded in 1991, Insomic in 1994. Bungie created the Marathon, Myth, Oni AND Halo series, all of which surpass and had a bigger impact on gaming then Insomic's R&C, Spyro and Resistance series. Plus Halo 3 had the highest grossing opening day in entertainment history making over $170million in the first 24hours

[tatotiburon]

so resistance couldn't beat gears of war now they try to fight against....halo?...LOL

Let see how many people are playing online halo right now and how many are playing resistance 2

[XDF]

Two more great games for my PS360. Have fun debating people..now back to Uncharted 2 and Forza 3.

[ReviewsArePolitics]

lol @ the "i'm not a fanboy I must be better than you attitude" with the "back to uncharted 2 and forza 3". Are you playing both at the same time?

Just admit that you got tired of all the glitches present in Forza 3 and that you've never played a game as engaging as Uncharted 2 in all of its dimensions. XD

[XDF]

OK..back to Forza 3 for 10 hour marathon, then play Uncharted for 1 hour to justify my PS3 purchase. Happy now. LOL

[skeletonss]

Being worse developers than insomniac

[bjornbear]

comparing 2 games that aren't out or don't even have ANY sort of referential factors...sad sad day for gaming "journalism"

[likedamaster]

It's not a matter of IF but WHEN Resistance gets destroyed by Halo Reach...

[Relientk77]

do we know anything about either game?