Nintendo President commented about the current situation of the Wii (in relation to system sales) at a recent press conference.
It's good to hear that Iwata can recognise that they've made mistakes. I think what Nintendo really needs to do is make a big new cross-appeal franchise for the Wii. They've been focusing nearly entirely on the DS and brought a few franchises to prominence like Professor Layton(in the west anyway), I think they need to more evenly focus. Third party support is definitely improving though and with some nifty looking new first party games coming like Monado and Line Attack Heroes I think it's just going to get better for the Wii. Oh yeah, in slightly related news Monster Hunter Tri has broke a million and brought Capcom lots of money.
They're finally gonna eat some humble pie they got caught up with all that money and lost their mojo in creating worthwhile games. MH3 sales are terrible compared to MH2 and MH2G separately. I hope they bring it on the PS3 or at least the PSP. But let it be MH3G instead of the gimped Tri, which has a severe lack of monsters.
Damn right they failed with the Wii, they're biggest problem is their main market have no interest in buying games for it. Nearly everyone I know has been happy with Wii Sports/Resort and Wii Fit but hasn't bought anything from a 3rd party publisher. That is nintendos biggest failing, catering for an audience that isn't interested in buying games.
Monster Hunter Tri wasn't expected to reach the PSP numbers though, it's like Pokémon, much more successful on portables. Tri did however surpass the PS2 games so it's done well. EDIT: Tri is also the best selling third party console game in Japan this gen(but I think that will change with FFXIII's release).
That being said, my friends and I play Brawl all the time. IKE IS BEAST!!!!
MH3 sales obliterated the sales of ps2 versions of the game so no complaints there especially from Capcom. Nintendo really needs more compelling games. It has more than people think (I'll be buying more wii games than ps3 or 360 this christmas) but they still need more. Gameswise they have been outdone by Sony this year. Having said that it is not just Nintendo's responsibility. If you take all Sony made games for the ps3 and Nintendo made games for the wii this generation there will be hardly any difference at all.
The N Crew for some reason remind me of N Flanders :P
Their price drop was ineffective. But I'd like to think it helped kill off at least some bit of steam Sony had with the PS3 slim.
rockleex -- Are you reading the same article that was posted? The one that says this: "It does seem that Iwata has a positive outlook for the Wii, though, thanks to the September price drop. According to a Reuters report from the press conference, Iwata said of the decision to lower Wii's sales targets, 'With the price drop, sales returned to a certain level, but they just did not reach the level of last year around this time.'" That's not saying it was ineffective. If anything, Nintendo is optimistic about sales after the price drop. It's the period before then that they're disappointed in.
im happy that people are not blinded and see for a change. even nds games are losing its core awesomeness what happen? why . theyre greed for money has taken them out
I think it's true that they failed to keep momentum by continually releasing killer app titles -- they launched with Zelda and Wii Sports, Galaxy was GOTY quality in 2007, SSBB carried the early load in 2008, but the rest of '08 was forgettable for first-party titles, and that carried over to this year. Combine that with a recession that knocked sales down for everyone and the natural sales slide from a console being out for a few years, and you end up here. NSMB and a price cut should stabilize them, but c'mon, they're never going to get back to the sales from the Wii's early life cycle. They caught lightning in a bottle, and that won't be replicated. Still, they've sold more consoles than anyone this gen while turning a profit on each one. You can't ask for much more than that.
Yes. If this is failure, I wish I would fail more often.
to release units in different colors. It might sound lame but it worked for the ds lite and it could have worked for the wii. The plain white unit is very simple but having different colors like black, blue, red, yellow, etc gives the impression of choice to suit the personal preference of the consumer. Why did they show off the wii in different colors if they only intended to sell the plain white one in stores?
They're releasing the black one soon as a limited edition one and the black wiimote has Wii Motionplus built in as well. I think they're just planning to keep the Wii sales steady now, they're still selling loads.
Yes, one of the features of the Wii that has disappointed me is the lack of choice of colours. I wouldn't be surpised if they'd decided that maintaining a safe, minimalist, image was appealing to enough people to make the Wii a permanent fixture under the main household TV. Personally, I find it deliberately bland. Just like the celebrity adverts for its games, Nintendo decided to draw a deep lines in the sand between themselves and their competitors to mark their product, like the Famicom (NES), as a family product. Most Dreamcasts were in just the white colour too but its design was more striking. It's a step down from the 6 colours available for the N64 or the several versions of Gamecube that were available. We know that there are quirky games like Mad World on the Wii so a bit of colourful quirkiness in marketing and product design seems a bit overdue.
Early Wii lifespan sales wont never come back again. Wii initial massive success is not related with Mario, Zelda or any "hardcore" franchise, it was all about novelty and casual market. The Wii appeal is still going strong but not like it used to be, and what the price cut shows is that price was never an issue.
You do realize that the Wii's new price didn't go into effect until September 27, right?
@Butter Did you eve read the title? A bump in sales is expected but the very same Iwata is saying Wii sales are returning to "certain" levels, doesnt that ring a bell?
Everything you stated is subjective. Iwata's "certain levels" are probably different from yours or mine, and if the Wii returned to where it was, then I guess we can expect the same killer sales that it has had every month. You should wait until YOU see the sales figures before you start spouting off at the mouth.
OK. Agree about "certain levels" being subjective, now give a look to Media Create Hardware for last week October/full October. Those levels are there in numbers.
The PS3 price cut effect goes beyond competing with the 360, it got Wii owners and possible Wii buyers thinking. $199 for a Wii or a little more for a PS3 (with Blu Ray and all those exclusives that got me broke after buying them:). Is tough to sell the Wii with all that shovelware when the PS3 is there with a friendly price and it offers just too much. Of course the Wii is selling good, but next year and forward the PS3 will keep rising in the charts and Nintendo is in for another beat down, eventually
The lack of killer apps/AAA titles is the real problem. At $199.99 the Wii can easily slip back into first with the release of games that everyone loves such as New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Let's not forget that Nintendo's handheld is only $30 cheaper than a Wii and it is outselling every single console on the market. I know everyone on N4G is so excited about the PS3's price cut, but October's sales results will give us an even better idea of the actual effect the new price has had.
people who are thinking about buying a wii are not making comparisons to the ps3 or xbox.. They are an entirely different demographic however many wii owners maybe looking to expand and thats where the ps3 has the potential to really make sales.. It generally wont be for the games i'm not saying that ps3 has no games but i'm certain that very few of those people will buying games like heavy rain, mag or even God of war;as good as they are, it comes down to the value and the simple fact is the ps3 is the better value on a hardware side of things Software is always debatable.
Waiter: Can i help you sir... Iwata: Yes, i'll have the fried rice with Humble sauce, no pork, extra Humility on top please, thank you.
will see whats what...
Yes, one game will make the Wii sell like back in the day, forever...
No one game cant sell consoles at least not many. But the wii has quite a bit of games on the horizon the mario stuff zelda,metroid and im sure other things, so this will only help them out in the long run. They are not going to stop selling consoles all together and they are already in a good position not only that but they are the only makers who have been profiting since their launch.
who didn't see this coming. thats what happens when you cater to the casual market and turn your system into a fad. The thing about fads is that they never last
" thats what happens when you cater to the casual market " Their idea is still brilliant, start low and build from that to a higher tier. Gaming has reached a higher peak when it comes to being mainstream. The problem is marketing. Hardcore gamers have always been a niche market compared to the "casual " crowd. Lots of games only reach the 2~4 million mark...and im talking "hardcore games". At least lots of people are now involved with gaming, and their kids will mostlikely grow up with a gaming system. Would be nice if one of the companies makes it possible, making games as mainstream as movies that is.
buy exclusives. Im a PS3/Wii owner and certain games would have done very well on the Wii. SoulCalibur 4, RE5, Final Fantasy and SFIV would have done great numbers on the Wii, but without enticing 3rd party devs they have no incentive on making core 3rd party titles on the Wii. Also a GTA Wii would do crazy numbers too, if it isnt censored like Manhunt 2 Wii.
He stated that they "failed" in projecting 26 million sales and lowered it 20 million. He still thinks 20 million is lofty but with NSMB I think they will. Seems like the Wii 2 might come sooner than later. I knew 140 million ps2's is hard to top. Nintendo has sold 8.6 million in Japan for Wii so far. But 25 million in NA and 21 million in EU. Rumor Question: Do you think the "Wii 2" will be marketed as this gen or next gen? I think it will be this gen and get 3rd party Blu-ray games with Sony.
honestly, a Wii2 will probably struggle with hardcore third party games..
I don't have a freakin' clue about "Wii HD" or "Wii 2". :) Blu-ray can play DVD. But just like DSi getting DSi specific content, "Wii HD" will too.
too much shovelware on the Wii, and the fact that the wii caters to the casual market will bring the whole ship down. The casual market will buy 1-2 games a year, no surprise there.
Saddest part is every month Wii moves more software than either of the other 2. NPD and other sources PROVE that. and yet here you sit in complete ignorance spouting off about something you know nothing about.
You think people really buy them games because there good? I Agree, The Wii has more SW then the PS3 or the 360. Nintendo has VERY Good Marketing and that help make the sales. Besides, they better move more software because they sold more hardware then the other 2. My Wii is Collecting Dust.
The need to break into the current gen and get outof the last gen.
Well the title of this article is certainly odd...
wii sucks and will NOT buy a wii2! fool me once shame on you...
i'll buy a new Wii for a new super smash bros game. :)
that's why Microsoft and Sony have a much better standing than nintendo this gen, even with less consoles sold... The reason i say this is most people who buy a PS3 or 360 are hungry consumers who want the next awesome game or feature, where as nintendo is a one night stand type of a system. So for sony and microsoft, each buyer is an investment, not so much so with nintendo. Now, before u chastise me, yea sure nintendo has some really great games for the hardcore (i desperately want TvC) , but the hardcore isn't what is making nintendo its money right now, and the people who are making nintendo money, could care less.
Update in article: "Mainichi Shimbun reports that Iwata, speaking at a press conference in Osaka today, said "Wii has stalled. We were unable to continually release strong software, and let the nice mood cool." [NOTE: I originally mistranslated Iwata's statement as "We failed with the Wii." The above is now the corrected form.]" hahahaha I guess one of those sentences is silent. I originally mistranslated the statement as "Nintendo has and always will be a company for old ladies and toddlers and we are ultimately failures at everything we do. We now have the great honor of liquidation into glorious Sony, whom we never thought we could beat. Uncharted 2 is the greatest game ever made." But only long enough to post a flamebait article that would snag some clicks.
Yea a mod needs to fix the title of this post as its full of crap and a mistranslation. Andriasang is usually a reliable guy for Japanese news, but that is what happens when every blog and their mother doesn't double check. Now this "lie" is all over the internet as the real translation.
What's shocking is people believed he actually said it. I went into the article looking for how badly it was misrepresented. No business man says that about their primary product during its lifetime. That's like someone shooting their stock options and reputation to hell for fun.
Agreed, it's almost as though gamers are just looking for flamebait as this point. I remember when gaming wasn't about hits, but games. It is no wonder N4G is considered a joke to almost every actual gaming site or forum.
This site is like slashdot for 15 year olds. What would you suggest as an alternative with more actual technical information? I want a forum without vocal technical illiterates for when this place gets extra stupid. I need a place with bored modders or extensive documentation I can work with on hacking my ps3 slim so I can actually play =/ EDIT: Reading more this is going to suck, at least I have something to do for a while... Here people think the cell can see through time and taste colors. It's so absurd.
"What's shocking is people believed he actually said it." How is it shocking? I imagine a good number of people on this site are part of the tinfoil hat crowd who honestly believe that the Wii shortages were an intentional conspiracy on Nintendo's part -- evidently, a conspiracy to make less money. Forget about people having an even vaguely sane idea of how businesses actually work in the real world, we're in bat country.
One thing that is lacking with many n4g types: Critical thinking skills. I am shocked at how bad it is here. Good post oobob.
sales are slipping, because everybody already owns a wii :D
Dominating for 4 years is a failure? They are realizing that the fad of catering to soccer moms and grandparents is wearing off. They ignored the real gamers who are the life blood of this industry. And please don't respond with a short list of mediocre titles the Wii has out.
If the story is inaccurate, shouldn't we report it? I mean, changing a translation to stir debate and garner page views, that misuse for sure.
Nintendo will be fine, they still have that vitality sensor LMAO
They ARE current gen moron... Your PS3 is LAST GEN. Why else is Sony setting out to COPY NINTENDO and not Nintendo copying Sony? Besides this is current gen not next gen. All console have been on the market at least 3 years. You obviously fail to comprehend certain concepts but after 3 years its time to get a clue... I gotta say I live the ignorance of your post though... Reality shows a different story but I can tell from your avatar that you're one of the less informed gamers out there.
You on something, we know this. Saying The PS3 is last generation shows you are quite clueless. Each system has It'a perks.
The wii is a big fad. I know many people that have a wii and let it sit and collect dust.
i only had a wii for about 5 months and the whole time it was collecting dust, i had to clean it before i traded it in
Mine collects dust to, Can't get rid of it though, Wife likes animal crossing :)
Can i send Iwata some flowers? Poor guy is really depressed. After the Tsunami success of both DS and Wii he must have really really high standards. @Valey, FIX THE QUOTE in the article headline, just like the journalist on that site did.
All I can say is Ha!
go and check out the sales for this week, and people will shutup!
That means PS3 will win again and again. Game over losers. Pack it up and go home. P.S. Vgchartz IS 100% MADE UP NUMBERS. THIS IS CONFIRMED. HE LITERALLY MAKES THE NUMBERS UP. THEY ARE NOT REAL. STOP REFERENCING THEM.
article: "It does seem that Iwata has a positive outlook for the Wii, though, thanks to the September price drop. According to a Reuters report from the press conference, Iwata said of the decision to lower Wii's sales targets, "With the price drop, sales returned to a certain level, but they just did not reach the level of last year around this time."
Slim has failed miserably to bring ps3 sales anywhere near where they need to be for sony to make a profit. Expect all your precious sony exclusives to come to Wii HD by next year. Sony will be bankrupt and they need to sell those ip's to someone. Besides, last I checked Sony hasent won crap yet. Nothing at all. In fact they're current policy is to lose consistantly. Uncharted 2 wont sell just like LBP didn't sell. In fact it wasn't even mention in worldwide Q3 sales. Pathetic really.
1. Wii's problem IS NOT that the main market (you people are using "main market" incorrectly) the installed base does not buy games it's that the installed base has been disappointed by the games being made. 2. A price cut was not needed for the Wii to work, Nintendo needed to release software that would up the value of the Wii, how they do this is the same way they made the Wii. 3. If Iwata and fans took a second to stop sniffing their own wiff on that Iwata asks crap where he asks question no one cares about and instead focused on asking himself what the consumer will want then maybe Wii demand would increase. 4. Solution is simple, Don't make a Wii HD as people will soon have a PS3wii and an Xboxwhateverthatis. Directly competing is not the best choice for gaming, increasing the amount of people playing games does not mean mimicking your competitors instead instead reevaluate the design of the Wii and evaluate what the consumers expected from it. At this point 1:1 controls is not what people wanted from their Wii, technology is not what the installed base purchased the Wii for. (The proof is in the puddin.) First of give some of the senior guys a rest, have them take a vacation, identify the young guys who have a firm grasp of consumers have them talk with the hardware dev guys and the ID guys on why they designed the product. Have both guys go out and talk to some Japanese people get their feet wet run some games by them even, put the controls in their hands. Don't have them do this together. Then have them make shuffle ideas and eventually form a line up of games in the direction they conclude. It's a risk, but the Wii was a risk.
Oh my god, you guys. You all know Iwata DIDN'T really say that right? If you guys took the time to (hmmm I don't know) RRREEEAAD this article, you would see that this is just the same old Wii flame bait article that come out every week on this site. XDDDDD But like the stupid little fanboy fishies, you saw flame bait, and you ate it ALLLLL up. XD Good going. Don't feed the fat cat. XD
I mean this isnt like the end for Nintendo but this is a wake up call for them. The whole casual market can turn real ugly for them real quick. Not to mention the Wii lost the appeal for the hardcore years ago and third party developers jumping ship. Which brings in to question for their next system, will the casual who bought the first one care to buy the next? Do they currently still use their system now? Its no secret that the Wii is the fastest system to collect dust. Its also no secret for first time casual buyers to go in a store, buy a wii and a few games and then to never buy a single game after that. Why should they, their casual. Bowling alone will last them years. >.>
Of the wii blueray. Then again it seems it is actually mistranslated. The quote actually says that the price cuts were effective. Just not as effectve as they hoped.
Yep, in other news Apple said they failed with their IPod, they expected every human being on the planet to buy one.
Its the PS3 price drop that caused your sales to drop