From PSXExtreme: "I really thought we had left this behind in 2007 and while the trend is certainly on the decline as developers gain a firmer foothold with the complex PlayStation 3, it still exists. There are some unfortunate recent examples."
no one cares but you xfans how the microphone in the ps3 of resident evil 5 wasn't there...would you guys just get over it?? cuz everyone with a ps3 has!
The title is messed up!! (Fixed) "Inferior game developers Still Plaguing The PlayStation 3"
wow you just described all the people that put up with RRoD and over-priced accesories.
lets see you reply to that socomnick bahahahaha
"wow you just described all the people that put up with RRoD and over-priced accesories. " Not to mention paying to get a service that is free everywhere else.
Haha, I don't think we'll be hearing from Socomnick again in this thread. Talk about getting owned. Haha.
LOL @ Hyperbole
Socomnick rears his head to troll another PS3 article, seriously or not. He posts once, gets owned, and then doesn't come back. Wash, rinse, repeat on every article.
"You better start caring, otherwise these companies will continue to bend you over and treat you like gutter trash" Um, er; don't you pay to play P2P servers? There's two things wrong with that: 1. You pay to play 2. You pay to play on P2P
newest eddition borderlands. ofcouse its all the devs fault for doing such a sh1tty job on the ps3 ver of it. not the graphics or gameply department, but the online and coop modes are just plain trash.
Socomnick I think you are getting Ps3 owners with 360 owners. Ps3 owners don't buy crappy games not worth $60.
Socomnick thinks that the PC gaming community is tiny!? This kid never ceases to amaze me with his ignorance.
"We better start caring, otherwise these Micro$oft will continue to bend us over and treat us like gutter trash" "M$ see xbox owners as second rate consumers, this is in part to the less brained consumers on the xbox, but also because we dont make care when they treat us like dirt" Well, BAM there it is!
This is why I only support Exclusives I like with full purchase $$. Be it day one or years later. The most I ever do for multiplat games this gen, in support, is to rent the ones I really want to experience. The rest is bargain bin used sales. Multiplat developers trying are dogging current gen experiences for gamers and this ONE gamer will not encourage it at all. There is no doubt exclusive games produce glaringly better quality experiences and with the PS3 having such a wide variety of genres, why on earth would I pay top dollar for a gaming experience that I know isn't as good as it could have been? Nah, I want gaming to move forward and anything I perceive to hold it back gets a thumbs down from me with my wallet.
But...YOU JUST HAVE BEEN DESTROYED with a good and bloody fatality lol.
You guys can hold hands all you like its so cute....either way you're full of it if you don't think 360 owners complained about RROD, thats exactly why micro was FORCED to do the 3 yr warranty, it certainly wasn't out of the goodness of their heart in the absence of complaints. Yeah and we pay for Live because its superior to PSN, PSN is always late, playing catch up, I own a ps3 and the online community is dead, granted I haven't been online much since KZ2 still it was totally silent playing that game most of the time, I get on Live and I see friends, what their playing, invites, chatting its so community focused and seemless experience, PSN is all broken up. Also you can get Live for $30 to $35 most of the time on through many internet specials, there are also deals on HDD and accessories all over ebay and other sites as well, because so many people have brought elites with bigger hdd's, not many people are so cheap to go out and buy a Arcade but then pay retail for accessories when they can be easily found much cheaper all over the internet. -And lets not forget sony's price gouging with the PSPgo sale price and mini-games. Didn't all you kids go out and buy new controllers with "rumble" because the ones you already paid for at launch didn't have it? Sony is no Saint when it comes to pricing either, psn is free thats it, and Home is still a joke. lol JOY
this topic became a pwned socomnick topic
If publishers would put more pressure on developers to develop for the PS3 first, then both the PS3 and 360 versions of games would perform better. The 360 allows for more mistakes when coding, so when those mistakes get ported to the PS3 version of a game, they manifest themselves negatively. Develop on the PS3 first!!!
Definitely better than DMC4, not sure if its better than DMC3 though. I noticed choppy framerates at times, although it isn't the most technology driven game out there. But it is expected since Sega was the one porting the game instead of the original developers Platinum Games Inc.
LOL @ the pathetic PS3 fanboys.
and AAA exclusives are also plaguing the PS3.
i agree! and also I can't get over your avatar. lmao she's really hot
What is with Gamers and asian chicks? hehe
Asian guls are too hairy lol, i will stay with my gf jaja, into the topic, oh whatever, that just show how lazy and loser are these dev teams...but i dont giv a damn since sony has made what could be called the right step for us the users of the magnificent ps family console, remember back then when these exclusives where dropping off from the ps catalogue like nut falling from a hit tree, and the xboxer were like btches vociferating it all around, while sony was like a tard kid that didnt do nothing for, now their plan is on march, aside of those crppy port, they have the amount of exclusive that are enough for push away the ps3 jajajaja. the comeback. what will ms do!!!having the lead ill say Nothing.
I'm the hottness! Queen B in this Beotch!
Decline? Last I checked PS3 has games that are in 720 while the xbox360's games are in 1080p. And yet still the xbox360 versions has better textures and is running much faster FPS.
yea its called upscaled 1080p. it means fake 1080p. as for 360 versions of games having the superior textures and faster frame rate, it depends on the game. games that lead on the 360 will be superior on the 360. games that lead on the PS3, will be superior on the PS3. so far, these multiplats you talk about lead on the 360.
The 360 automatically upscales all its games to the highest resolution possible. The resolution is natively the same on both consoles, and upscaling doesnt mark a difference in power or graphical capability. Also, I'd like to know of any notable game that has been released within the past year that has a significant difference in framerate. Cause I dont know of any myself.
Heres a good lesson for you to learn: why make a game for the Most powerful console, if you can make a game with the biggest install base? thus they have to make the game suitable for the lowest common denominator, which is the 360. But now that the PS3 is slowly overtaking the 360 in sales, how long will the argument presented by me will stay standing? This is why PS3 exclusives are there for, to try to cripple down that argument that i presented, so that people can start buying PS3 exclusives like Uncharted 2 which is starting to get the attention it deserves, people will start buying consoles for this game. This is why Sony looked ahead at the future and started adding value and expand their first party studios, not to mention collaborate with 2nd party studios.
Said it better, thanks was of some help, not to mention that sony is incredible, and back then the entirely fanbase out there, were so bashing them like never for the time to time of losing exclusives, now the exclusive are truly exclusives from sony and not a 3rd exclusive like what ms has that could just jump ahead to another console like namco and so others have been doing these last months. guess sony aside of being more credible not that much but at least more than ms, has head for do their stuff.
Borderlands is the same on both the 360 and PS3. No difference at all. http://www.gametrailers.com... We havent seen Bayonetta ourselves yet. Nonetheless, its the exception these days, not the rule. There is a reason Dragon Age's release date was moved up for PS3. Bioware will NOT ship the exact same product for all consoles, and EA will make sure of that. The fact is that most games look the same on both consoles. I know its hard for some people to accept that and move on because it was so prevalent back in 2007, but seriously move on to something else to b!tch about. The only way to see a difference if to have them side by side and even then its hard.
I agree with this comment for the most part. At least the basics of it: in order to see these differences you really have to be trying. I mean I see all the time people comparing the two and touting how one is better than the other and I have yet to see one that it noticeably worse than the other. They're both the same unless you meticulously scour every frame of each game side by side just looking to start crap. I mean come on, when you're having to work that hard to find a difference, then is it really all that different at all? Did these people forget that you're supposed to be gaming to have fun? Not running through to nitpick every lil thing and actively looking to find mistakes and differences. I mean 99% of the things that are pointed out as differences or just plain faults graphically, I never even notice when I'm playing. And 99% none of that stuff ever takes away from the fun of the game in any way.
Problem is 360 is 9 times out of 10 the lead platform. The Ps3 and 360 are very different so when you make a game on one of them then port their will be drawbacks unless you really really take your time.
But these inferior crpy game are superior to the ps3 port and that fail...so it would be better like, Inferior dev team still dont know how to develop in the magnificent ps3 system...
Studios just have to reach out to Sony's dev support teams when it comes to this stuff. Seriously, Sony has teams specifically for helping studios that need support with this kinda stuff.
Sony should get a hold of/reach out to devs and let them know that if the PS3 is the lead platform, then the overal product will be better and even easier to port to the 360. Sony needs to instill this in developers heads.
they always look a little bit sharper but hey devs after my eyes saw uncharted 2,I guess you were a bit lazy
-Lazy (Valve, which has enough budget to make their own online game service "Steam" and keeps pumping out games and yet claims not to have the resources to make PS3 games (question, how is it that there are some indies making games for PS3 and they aren't?)) -Incompetence (Every major publisher that hires recently graduated DESIGN (lulz) majors to make games with UE3 (lulzrs)) -Lack of Budget (Independent devs that don't have the time/$$$ to figure out the PS3; however, with the Pub fund, that shouldn't be much of an excuse nowadays)
is easer to develope for,give you better result in shorter amount of time but I want developers to tap the power of the ps3,my dream is to see gta 5 ps3 exclusive or build from the ground up on ps3 off topic,one of the secret(sites want it to sell) worst ps3 versions ever is gta 4,I believed IGN I bought the ps3 version first and then played the 360 version later,I couldn't believe,ps3 version is almost F*** up,blur everywhere,muddy washed out textures everywhere,horrible framrates,horrible fuzziness and the worst alising issues this gen ever seen(outside the wii) the ps3 version of gta 4 sucks 360 version looks\runs and plays way waaay better
Dude you always say the same about GTAIV, and you may be right, but if PS3 gets the additional content that 360 has for any game, then there's no reason for me to get the 360 version. This gen, most differences between games have been very minor, so minor that gameplay is intact, be it the 360 or PS3 version that is the one that is superior. So if both games are the same, I usually get them on PS3 because I prefer trophies, Home, discs that don't scratch, a reliable console, the controller, free online, and my PS3 is BC with PS2 games so its more convenient to have all my library in PS format, and I also enjoy making it hard on Microsoft. In fact, I buy most 360 games USED, while most Ps3 games I buy new (unless they are a piss-poor port). Also, if I buy 360 games, it's because they are guaranteed exclusives or timed exclusives for long time (but I guess that's why I stopped buying 3rd party games on 360 entirely, as it seems that the games will always end up on PS3). Anyway, last-gen I didn't buy a Xbox even when it had "superior multiplats", because I couldn't care less about having an additional 100 pixels or 2 additional frames per second. It's just not worth it. To me, additional content > minor increase in resolution/frame rate.
About ur GTA5 being exclusive to the Ps3, IF it is im sure it'll use the engine they use on Agent so once we see Agent we'll know what GTA5 could be.
I found that the 360 version looked better, but the PS3 version ran better - not nearly as much pop-in and it has a better framerate.
@ ZombieAutopsy is Agent using a different engine to gta4 ? I have not seen any evidence to suggest so. I would think Agent will still use the Rage engine ( R* put a lot of work into that engine and it is a very good engine at that ) and if Agent is using the Rage engine, I would expect GTA5 to also use it. The really big difference will be in the optimization. As time goes on R* will have more time to prefect/ tweek/ improve/ upgrade etc the rage engine for the ps3. I think what will make the real difference will be taking full advantage of the space available to them with BR. Seeing as I own both systems, I don't really care. I just want R* to make the top quality games I have come to know them for. GTA4 on the ps3 did have issues. Like Ape said, I totally agree. I actually owned gta4 on both my ps3 and 360. The difference was very clear. Still GTA4 in itself was a quality title. It lacked in content a bit which was for a number of reasons i think, but it was still on a technical level astounding. people put it down for it's graphics because sadly that's all people seem to look at this gen. in terms of it's physics, animation, lighting, size and detail of the city.. I could go on. The only other sandbox game so far that looked on par or better then gta4 was prob AC, but even that game didn't have half the stuff going on in the city that gta4 had. anyway, I am really looking forward to what R* do with Agent.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
Not NEARLY as broken as reported. No loss of my friends list. No connection problems. Moments of communication lag...that's about it!!! I'm enjoying the game WAY MORE than I thought that I would. Spent almost 6 hours grinding with 3 friends just last night....oops into this morning!!!*LOL*
Games SH!T HOT, definately one of my fav multiplats this year. The major issues that every1 was going on about were all to do with the friends list ingame, which was fixed within two days of release via a serverside patch. Basically the game was sorted before i bought it here in the UK. Only problems I have with the game is communication lag over the eadsets during loading. :D
Platinum Games is a small studio, so I'm pretty sure they're were some financial issues with making the PS3 version of Bayonetta, but still that is no excuse for them gimping one version over the other. I hope Sega can give NA and Europe a better version of game, if not I'm not buying it, plain and simple. As far as Borderlands, they're the same on both systems, the only issue was the online function. That seems to be fine now (for me, at least). Gamespot was the only review site that gave points off the PS3 version. Most multi-titles are the same nowadays, some sites like Lens of Truth and Eurogamer go out of their way to find the littlest difference between the two systems, that always seems to go in the 360 favor. Also the human eye won't be able to detect the crap that they're trying to prove. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, developers like Platinum Games and others need to get their sh!t together.
It's true. I play on both consoles and without a doubt the ps3 exclusives are way better than anything ive ever played on my 360. But when a game like R5, Batman, Fifa10, Boarderlands and of course the upcoming MW2 come along, i buy the 360 versions due to the fact they are just better. I'm no fanboy, i can clearly see much more jaggies on the ps3 versions and with games like Fallout, the game was a joke.If they at least got the multiformats even, id do away with my 360 but im affraid its gonna continue.
When you see some other company hired to port the PS3 version of a multiplatform game than the actual game developers.
Fallout 3 was a joke on the 360 as well. To say it looked better than the PS3 version is splitting hairs. The only significant difference was that each had different bugs. The PC version was far and away the one to own, graphically. And even THAT version was a bugfest, and frankly the game engine looked last-gen on all 3 platforms. Bethesda owes everyone an apology yet no one holds them accountable. The same sorts of bugs have plagued every game they've released in the last 15 years. They have no QA to speak of. Batman, FIFA, R5, and MW do not look any better on the 360. You're pulling that from your posterior. Just stop, man.
People will always say about GTA4, because it was miles better on the 360. You say you don't care about the odd pixel and framerate, well i do. i want to play it at its best and because owning both consoles i can. Lets face it i bet you dont mind talking about the fantastic framerate and amazing pixels in U2.
and both were great games......so, i can't really speak to the quality (or lack thereof) of multi-plat titles. but if this problem exists, isn't it the problem of inferior DEVELOPERS? this is what i would think.
GTA 4 look bad on the PS3? Are you kidding me? Both were exactly the same, the 360 got the extra chapters and that was it.
Do you know what AA is ? GTA4 was a jaggie mess on ps3, it was blurred badly in places to try and hide it, the framerate wasn't great, the draw distance wasn't that good either. I know alot of people don't seem to wanna notice these sort of things. But if you had them running side by side you would def know which version was the 360.I bought it 1st on ps3 as i prefered the pad on GTA as it was always a playstation game. However after seeing it on the 360 i part ex'd it and played the better version
@iiutii GTA4 is NOT jagged in the PS3 version, in fact the blurriness is due to a cheap smoothening techique Rockstar used to get rid of jaggies. You must be a huge GTA fan to buy the game twice. I couldnt stand GTA4, it's way too boring.
lol You musthave NOT played GTA 4 on ps3 then .. the game had better streaming and many other things absent of the 360 version because of the install . And having completed the game twice i still try to remember a time when the game slowed down or looked bad ..
play the 360 version for 5 minuets and then come back here
@1.1: Please stop regurgitating long-disproven talking points and presenting them as your own experiences.
is Bayonetta is a hot mess on the PS3 and I'm not happy about that AT ALL. There is no excuse for such a poor port... unless SEGA is a poor excuse?
Not possible, considering how good Yakuza 3 and Vakyria Chronicles are
2 things: 1) Give them a chance. Don't base it on one review. 2) Bayonetta is small potatoes. With all the stuff coming out for the PS3, was it honestly on your radar at all?
From what I've seen, both versions look and play exactly the same. The only other problem I could really pinpoint with the PS3 version is a strange audio glitch that causes the music / sound to cut out at random times, for no apparent reason.
That IS the only problem I had. So, either they did a quick fix server side within the first couple of days...or it wasn't as WIDESPREAD of a problem as previously stated. I didn't get to play it for about 5 days...so it is possible...either way...this is before the patch has been released.
its really sad that this is still going on..its just pure laziness cause if there was no xbox 360 im pretty sure they would of had the ps3's tech down packed by now..but cause of the easy to work for xbox 360 the ps3 will always get the fvked up version..people like gabe eats well should not be a developer..he should be ashamed of himself..when you have a team like naughty dog making a damn classic you have no excuse
This is about Bayonetta, isn't it?