6 Games That Can Challenge Uncharted 2 Visually

GB writes: Uncharted 2 has set a new benchmark in visuals. The game had plenty of stunning moments and the country of Nepal was represented in such a way that no video game before was able to do. But there are about a number of games that can challenge Uncharted 2 visually.

[gameseveryday]

i guess gow3 might be one of the games that might challenge UC2.

[Assassin Nawabi]

yeah, but rage is stunning too

[Fishy Fingers]

Rage has been shown running on what is no doubt the top of PC hardware available, until they show comprehensive console footage, it's not really a fair comparison. Although, what they have shown is indeed spectacular, especially when you consider it's open world nature.

id have always been there pushing the visuals.

[Keith Olbermann]

Alan Wake and Splinter Cell...not so much. Although they will both be amazing games I watched gameplay of splinter cell and it did not look so great in motion. Dont hate folks..just my opinion.

[gaffyh]

I don't see why people hype Alan Wake as looking amazing. When it was shown in 2005, it looked really good for the time. But now it looks dated, and really doesn't look as good as Uncharted 2. The game may be good in terms of gameplay and style, but graphically it does not look as good as Uncharted 2.

[snipermk0]

I feel tht Alan Wake is just a glorified Alone in the Dark.

[Darkeyes]

GOW3 will definitely give UC2 a run for it's money and so will Heavy Rain.... Not so sure about AC2 cause it's an open world game, but the game looks spectacular for what it is... An open world game.. Probably the best looking game in that segment.

I was also initially impressed with Alan Wake visuals, but we have only seen night time videos which can't be directly compared....

As of now, GOW3,Alan Wake and Heavy Rain.... Personally Heavy Rain seems to have better character modeling than UC2. GOW3 looks absolutely stunning on close up and will give a tough fight.

One things for certain that UC2 has raised the bar this gen.... The rumors of KZ3 also have stirred things up as it will definitely trump UC2... Or we always have UC3 to fall on ; )

[Bot Smasha]

0 games that can challenge uncharted visually

[Darrius Cole]

God of War III may be able to get close to Uncharted 2's graphics. From what I've seen, Heavy Rain probably will not look as good as Uncharted 2.

The rest of those games don't have a chance in hell of getting REMOTELY CLOSE to to the graphical prowess of Uncharted 2. In fact, it is dishonest to suggest that they might.

[Anorexorcist]

There will only be Chaos...accompanied with a$$-kicking visuals for sure! The scope of the visuals in God of War 3 should be increased more than 20-fold, so the little intricacies like sweat effects and lighting cues may be sacrificed in order to represent the more large-scale battlefields, but hey that sounds like a fair trade to me.

[dreamcast]

"I feel tht Alan Wake is just a glorified Alone in the Dark."

That's like saying Uncharted is a glorified Tomb Raider. There is some truth to it because of the similarities, but they're not on the same level quality-wise.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

GeoW dose not seem natural...its not a bad thing but im talking real life visuals...GeoW has a amazing art style but it is a different kind of great visuals ..i would compare it more to another killzone ...because they have a closer art style or even resistance ...It is still visually impressive...3 years latter and there aren't many games that look better than the original Geow

[cmrbe]

Looks great but i suspect that it was running on PC. However if the footage i saw was running on consoles then that would be excellent indeed. We really need more great 3rd party engines. As good as UE3 is it's getting too common. We need more variety.

[Reibooi]

The only games on there that have a chance to outshine Uncharted 2 in terms of graphics are Heavy Rain and Rage.

Assassin's Creed is just a slightly better looking version of the first game so that's not big deal. Alan Wake doen't look that good at all( game looks great gameplay wise but isn't the graphics masterpiece they made it out to be)

Splinter cell looks great but not in a better then Uncharted way it looks good but not OMG LOOKS HOW INCREDIBLE THAT LOOKS good.

And call me crazy but I don't think GoW looks all that great. It to me just looks like a Higher Res version of the first two games which isn't really that impressive to me. However we still have alot to see on that game.

[Darkstorn]

Rage looks really great. I doubt GoW3 will beat U2, though.

[raztad]

God of War 3 will top UC2 visuals. Quote me on that. GoW1&2 are so good looking that just increasing the res to 720p they destroy many "next gen" games around. I expect GoW3 to run at 1080p with incredible animations, character modeling, art-style (a paint came to life, anyone?) and framerate up to 60fps with lows at 30. GoW will raise the bar very high.

[Syronicus]

God of War III and Heavy Rain but the others, not a chance. They are multiplats so they will be dumbed down just as all other multiplats are. No multiplat will look as good as the recent exclusive to PS3 games. It's just not going to happen.

[Xbox Avatars Shoe]

Alan Wake, Splinter Cell and Assassin's Creed 2 don't look even close to as good as U2! Maybe if by "challenge" you mean "look bad by comparison".

Heavy Rain and GoW3 look close though.

[Eddie20101]

I agree with GOW 3, Heavy Rain, and possibly Rage if they get the frame rate issues taken care of. The others are probably going to be great games but visually will not compare to Uncharted 2.

[UnSelf]

call me crazy but here are some games that look visually stunning that no 1 ever seems to mention:

Devil May Cry 4- ppl pay attention, this game is really gorgeous

Lost Planet 2- again, another game that is animated so damn well

GT5- if this isnt on that list it should be, and then some or at least Prologue

RAC:ACIT- beautifullllllll

Killzone 2- To me this game is only surpassed by UC2

Bad Company 2- Did my jaw just drop from that video?

[sikbeta]

Guys, guys, guys, why you compare RAGE vs UC2, we know RAGE looks wonderful and all, but on a High End Pc, If you want to be so unfair why we don't bring Crysis to table

High End PC > everything

If we talk about Consoles

PS3 > everything

but but my N DS has 2 cameras lol ---> /jk sorry I couldn't resist XD

[SuperM]

Actually, rage has been shown running on 360 at aprox 60 fps. The entire game is build with consoles in mind. For a 60fps game there isnt much out there that beats it. Wether or not it can compare with Uncharted2 is another case, something i dont have the knowledge required to go into.

Certainly the character models in UC2 is unbeatable by any game out there, and probably any game coming out for quite a while. Dont think any of the games listed can match ND in that area.

And Splinter Cell Conviction has done little to deserve a spot on this list. The first footage looked pretty good but it turned out to be from the PC version. What they have shown from the 360 version is severly toned down from the PC version. Sam Fisher probably has between 15-20k polygons max. Its an insult to compare it with drakes 80k polygons.

Btw im in no way saying SC Conviction looks bad. But its clearly not on the same level as UC2.

[FamilyGuy]

I thought that game was supposed to be a visual benchmark as well.

This was a good list though SplinterCell still needs to prove itself to me.

On a side note, the CGI in Assassins Creed 2 look phenomenal! Really on par with what we would normally see is a JRPGs cut scenes. MGS4 had some breath taking CGI too and it's nice to see other game genres stepping up in that department.

[pixelsword]

This article doesn't even make sense because NONE OF THOSE GAMES ARE EVEN OUT.

As far as we know, every picture and photograph of those games listed are bullshots and video; because games change before they come out (as some people claim final fantasy XIII did, for example). Since RAGE is being reduced to fit on two discs as we speak, depending on what they do to RAGE or any of the games listed can knock them clear off of the list. None of those games can be proven to hold up to any of the pics taken in terms of the final product, so it's best to list games that are out: in which visually I can't think of one game that matches the quality, but many that come close in terms of physics, or my technically have a higher resolution, but still doesn't come together as cohesively as UC2 does.

[7thNightvolley]

oh ppl now making futuristic stuff ok here i go..

Rage, heavy rain, halo reach, god of war3 mmmish, dante inferno, gears of war 3 obviously, R3,

ya and pacman
i kid i kid..

[xjxdoggggy]

as a gamer...i hope everything here on out tops uncharted..and i hope those games..then get topped etc...always push the limits....thats what they all should do

[Lich120]

I was wondering if they were including the PC version of RAGE in that. I mean, in terms of overall "graphics" a high end PC will always win out. However, what uncharted had was amazing mo-cap, character models, and a very beautiful art style. Textures will just look much crisper on the PC since (using my computer as an example) they get to access 8 gigs of RAM vs. the roughly 512 megs you would find in the PS3.

I don't think RAGE will look better than uncharted 2, on the PS3. I think it will look better on the PC.

[Rapture333]

wow, all games that are unreleased, real impressive.... Why couldn't you just say Crysis and Far cry 2?

[LastDance]

GOW3 will be fixed camera positions meaning that it may look better but it will be superficial.

Therefore

its not fair to judge it against Uncharted 2.

ie: Fixed Camera positions means that they dont have to render the entire area and can save resources whereas Uncharted had to render every single inch.

[thesummerofgeorge]

GoW3 and Heavy Rain, the rest I don't think so.

[Jaces]

Funny thing is by the time most of those games even go gold, Uncharted 2 will be old news in the graphics department so it would be no use to compare new to old. :D

Not bashing but it's like comparing whether GT3 was better than GT5 graphics wise.

[PtRoLLFacE]

funny thing they dont mention crysis 2 umm i wonder why?

[calis]

"but they're not on the same level quality-wise."

Oh really? What part are you up to in Alan Wake?

[mcslick101]

"Uncharted 2 has set a new benchmark in visuals"

Barely a benchmark. It's not abstruse to see that Crysis is visually better than UC2 and in terms of gameplay GTAIV annihilates it! I suppose you could call it a graphical achievement; It's playable on a console anyway. I'm going to guess and say that Alan Wake will be superior simply for its lighting system and high texture resolution but you can trust Id Soft. to put up a good fight!

[Xgamerzus]

Another Flame bait Article fanboy article....
Rage will Be the best of the best on PC and overall !!and 2nd , GOW 3 On consoles
and that is that! until Resistance 3 comes out Im betting it all on Resistance 3!!!
They will prove the PC is nothing more than High Bandwidth RAM and More RAM,.

If they could achieve what they did on the CHicago levels constancy with more particle and effects and Physics and masive enemy droves grim(in hundred) etc... Then this will prove the Cell RSX is no joke!!
Bring it on let the Tech wars begin!!!
and MODs go F yourself!!

[Christopher]

Technically speaking, none of those can challenge what Naughty Dog did with Uncharted 2. Their level of detail, physics, and lighting all together is just amazing.

Now, as far as 'artistic representation', all of those can challenge for their different takes on art direction and implementation. But, honestly, what one find more appealing is all about opinion.

[mcslick101]

Are you aware that the Tyan n6550EX Motherboard can hold 4 AMD Opterons at 2.7GHZ QUAD each! That's almost double the power of CELL and for the Reality Synth we can compare it to 3 of our GTX 295s at 1.5 GB VRAM each with a core clock of 576 MHZ each, we also have a maximum of 48GBs of RAM all on the same motherboard. We can also customize our case to our liking without voiding our warranty.

And what do you mean F mods? Are you aware that some mods are absolutely sensational? Are you aware they add more gameplay time and are you aware it allows the 'uneducated' mind to educate itself? I think not!

[frostypants]

@1.35: You toss out some impressive numbers, but at the end of the day "the proof is in the pudding", as they used to say. Despite the sheer power of the latest high end PCs relative to the PS3/360, Crysis is the ONLY PC game that can currently viably be argued to have better graphics than Uncharted 2 (nevermind that U2 is just a flat out better game...and only someone who'd never played U2 would claim GTA4 has better gameplay).

I say all of this as a console AND PC gamer who built his latest PC rig just under a year ago. The margin of graphical dominance PC's have long enjoyed has diminished drastically over the last decade, and likewise so has the cost-benefit of shelling out the cash for a good gaming PC setup. It's costing more and more to maintain less and less of a graphical advantage with PCs. PC gaming is returning to its niche status, which is probably for the best, as the movement towards mainstream multi-platform games has only made the problem worse. Bring back the good old days.

On a related sidenote, it should be interesting to see what Sony does with the PS4, given the ridiculous scalability of Sony/IBM's Cell architecture. There could be some serious bang-for-the-buck there given the reduced manufacturing costs (vs. the PS3 launch price).

[DevastationEve]

I don't think Uncharted 2 will be all that difficult to beat visually, it's not all that great honestly. On its own it's a pretty game...stacked against other games this gen it doesn't achieve anything that hasn't already been done. It's fun, I'll give it that.

UC2 can have GotY this year but it'll be a short lived victory...2010 already sees some uprisings for the graphics throne.

edit:

Uncharted 2 is okay on its own, but fails to achieve any real significant improvements. It's still a 3rdPS Tomb Raider clone with a cover system borrowed from Gears of War.

Seriously, I challenge anyone to list $60 worth of innovations that Uncharted or Uncharted 2 brings NEW to this gen. It's great at what it does, but what does it do NEW?

(this is a serious question).

[Jaces]

Uhh let's see....ODST was $60 and it did nothing new at all. Not forgetting to mention the campaign was less than 6 hours long. Totally worth $60!

You name me a game that has brought something new to the table in recent years. Gears of War was nothing new, the cover system was already done by a recent game I can't think of at the moment.

People don't care about innovation or if it brought something new to the table. If they did then they would be severely disappointed with 95% of games that we've seen this gen. Uncharted 2 does everything so well and smooth that it doesn't need innovation.

It was an amazing experience never seen in a game thus far, from the characters emotions, blockbuster action sequences, to the amazing visuals. That's something new right there.

It's hard to compare two different genres when one is gritty, rough, and plays on smaller scaled levels (SC: Conviction) and the other is colorful, larger than life on most stages, and a bit on the cartoony side (UC2).

[frostypants]

@1.37: Name a single game other than Crysis that is equal to U2 from a visual standpoint. There are none...you're nuts, and to imply there are any on consoles is outright lunacy.

As for things it brings new to the table, you cannot simply discount visuals. I'm not sure if it's the first to offer it, but I can't think of another console game in the disc-based era (off the top of my head at least) that allows you to play through start to finish with no loading screens whatsoever in between. Both Uncharteds do this.

What games this generation HAVE brought something truly new to the table from a gameplay standpoint (for everyone's sanity let's ignore the Wii for this discussion)? LittleBigPlanet and Demon's Souls are the only two that come to mind. The most popular titles have been extensions of already-tried mechanisms.

And the GoW cover system is NOT innovative. They borrowed it from Kill Switch on the PS2/Xbox.

[Xgamerzus]

I say LET THE DEVELOPERS TRY TO GET THE BESTOUT OF THE BEST!

All I know is When they take 5 years to make an engine and it barely scratches the surface of the tech & Im very impressed but annoyed at how long it takes.

Point is ALL that bandwidth and tech means Crap if you cant take full advantage of it and that's when Genius Programers come in.Only a few handful of studios can get this performance from the Next Gen Tech.
AND if we had 80 cores and terabytes of ram ,it would still take 5 + years to fully exploit and do something that take full advantage of the magnitude if bandwidth and space.
Programming isn't a weekend job !

PC's games are now stuck with a dilemma ,nobody wants to invest in them cause of Piracy and the constant change of 3d card specs/aka cost.
So with NO money and average spec users, No way a Powerful 8 core PC with SLi will ever get the game it deserves NO WAY nothing like Uncharted 2 or GT5 or MGS4!!!
Nothing specialized or specifically optimized as Uncharted2 Or Resistance2. not even close.
Just alot of "Heres the same old FPS for your PC " BUt you can set res to MAX and 6 AA,120FPS,..(but same old recycled game levels)
But guess what you can turn all that crap up but stages are still limited and length of game and detail in environments the physics recyceled.

Cause no matter how powerful you PC is it will never render and build its own New 3d models and created characters, or add detail levels out of now where and new physics routines ..
THats because you have to pay people to create that stuff$$$
and looks like the money is on consoles and so are optimizations and full
Cinematics and cutscenes and etc..

Thank god for BLuray! and soon 120GB bluray!

Hollywood is here and it is on PS3

[frostypants]

@1.4: Great point. The most powerful PC hardware out there means jack squat if the vast majority of developers are disinterested in taking advantage of it, which certainly seems to be the case. Bubbles for you.

Many PC gamers justify the cost with the "I can get my games for free" argument. Unfortunately that very philosophy is contributing to scaring off the very people who would makes those games in the first place.

[TheGrimBunny]

heavy rain, with out a doubt, the graphics in that look absolutely amazing.

[gameseveryday]

have to agree, the graphics in both Heavy Rain and Rage are stunning!

[mugoldeneagle03]

1) Heavy Rain
2) GT5
3) God of War III
4) Resistance 3 (Pending Release)

I think Alan Wake and Splinter Cell look good, but I don't own a 360, so I wouldn't think it'd be fair to talk about games I wont be getting.

[Fishy Fingers]

Shouldnt that be "might" not "can". Still Uncharted is out now, of course there's a change future titles could and might better it. Frankly speaking, they should, or the next generation might as well release now.

[Assassin Nawabi]

it's better for the gaming industry overall

[longballburrell]

honestly, i think heavy rain is the only one of these that has any chance of looking better than uncharted 2 graphically.

[reintype]

God of War and Heavy Rain.

[n4gno]

You are probably right, off course not a single xbox game can pretend to be like uncharted 2, it's stricly impossible (even uncharted one as no contenders, and the 2 is way better)

[MetalGearRising]

Alan Wake looks graphically better than Uncharted 2 and also Rage. Uncharted 2 Graphics Engine is already showing how weak it is compared to other Game Engines as it is suffering from POP UPS, FREEZING , GLITCHES.

[bujasem_89]

ok buddy what ever helps u suck ur thumb at night ;)

[GrandDragon]

You talking about that 7 year Old PC port that failed to deliver on the PC and has yet to be released on the dated Xbox 360?

What can this dilapidated piece of garbage offer other than Gears of War 2 which was underwhelming and trumped by Uncharted 1

[PlayStation X]

lmao.
is this kid taking the piss or being serious?

[skatezero246]

In denial today are you? lol because alan wake won't come close to uncharted 2's graphics tge only 2 on that list that has a chance is god of war 3 and heavy rain.

and if the engine is so weak lol ... <-- that made me chuckle ... then how come it has the best looking visuals on a console game to date? and couldn't be done on that fail of a console you call a 360?

ask yourself these questions and MAYBE you will see how foolish you sound

[GrandDragon]

To be an Xbox 360 exclusive the Game also has to be a PC port

That's the twisted logic of an Xbiach (oops sorry meant to say bot)

[BenCrazy424]

Alan Wake will look better than uncharted 2? Really? lol. I think Rage will look better, but only on a high performance PC, not on any of the consoles.

[Thoreau]

i KNOW you are just typing for the responses.

[divideby0]

MGRising.....omg....I cant believe I read what you just posted.....please pass the pipe

alan wake is still a must buy game for me....BUT if you look at the games in extended development, must just fall way short of the mark...AW very well may be in the same boat

[MattOG711]

I think the game is just as visually stunning as RAGE, and will be a contender for Uncharted 2's crown.

From that list I'll go with Heavy Rain

[SuperM]

Brink is using some of the same tech as Rage. but i think its a 30fps game and Rage is 60fps which makes it conciderably more impressive

[PandemicPrawn0]

Every single game on this list looks fantastic.

[Turn 10 Studios]

Alan Wake Puts Uncharted 2 to Shame

Try Harder Fail Dogs

[skatezero246]

lol try harder bot ... alan wake has been in development for 4-5 years? while the gods at naughty dog made uncharted 2 in what a year and a half ... I even bet it won't look as good as uncharted 2 ... I mean come on name one game on the 360 - that compares visually to uncharted let alone uncharted 2 ... o my bad you only have one bubble lol

[Amir51]

You're funny.

I had a look at your comments, it seems you make about 50 comments a day. Must be hard fitting that around your hectic social life.

Oh sorry, 'Social Life'? It means when you spend time with friends.

Oh sorry 'Friends'?....oh never mind

[skatezero246]

I can only see god of war 3 and heavy rain matching uncharted 2 when it comes to graphics

lol a phantom disagree? i guess there are alot of xbox fans on here still trying to do damage control

[mastiffchild]

Well,maybe. However, I've always said(as I'm no techy boffin)that one of the big differences between games exclusive to Sony and those to 360 is the amount of time they've been given in development-Gears and Gears2 didn't(not overall)get the same time as KZ2 or GT5 or GOW3 now did they? U1 and 2 are exceptional for the time frame they worked under as well as the final results imo.

Now, though, that isn't any excuse for either AW or SC:C to hide behind and, so far, they do look like challenging Sony's console prettiness dominance even if they still need to get a bit better than what we've seen so far for that to happen. The best AW footage is still the PC stuff and not the very limited glimpse we've seen of the 360 version but given the amount of time and the fact they're now on the 360 alone it could be the best looking 360 game yet. SC:C-while some still hold the feeling it's coming to PS3 I don't see that happening as MS have been in Ubi's pockets over this one(filling them with dev cash if I hear right too). They were there when the first attempt was scrapped and have been there ever since and seem to want to reboot a once dying franchise-I dunno whether it's all going to be as grea as what we've seen so far as Ubi(in my book) can't half manage to put out some patchy games)but where it's at it's best it could push U2-overall IDK but somwe of it's looks are already near that standard but can they find more and do it consistently?

Forget Rage on the consoles(will be amazing on PC)as even though iD have my respect no multis really push PS3 exclusives or 360 exclusives on the consoles yet and for them to buck the trend is just too much of an outside bet for me. AC2? An open world multi plat? From Ubi? When the first game only had vleached backdrops that looked good when you were stood still but blurry when in motion and it had to run the excellent char animetions? So no-an open world console game isn't going to beat out U2 on looks in anyway on either platform. Also it'll be patchy(ino) even if, as expected, it'll be better in every way from it's amazingly disapponintingly dull first effort.

GOW3 will definitely look nearly as good as U2 and possibly netter and the same goes for HR-but they're PS3 games anyway who share tech with ND for starters! You should have had GT5 and the now looming KZ3 as well as they're both certs to look almost as good but PS3 exclusives don't have to prove themselves in this dept like 360 ones and multis do right now.

For your multis you could have added FF13 too I guess as well-it'll be interesting to see if the longer dev times we're now seeing for some 360 games is going to push the console into challenging the PS3's recent dominance in the pretty stakes. I hope so as the fight means better looking games for all gamers and loads for those of us with each platform! Be interesting to see though whatever happens but the great thing about U2, to me, was the attention to the tiny setails and the slick gameplay alongside the expectedly amazin script, acting and looks of the game. As a total package it's going to be pretty hard to beat, imo.

Action game wise I've only enjoyed MGS4 as much as U2 and I'm not quite patient enough to get the best out of MGO so, for me even as a big Snake fanboy, U2 beats it as a complete package. Most interested to see how good AW will look after they seem to have cut down some of the original features(depending on which outlets you feel tell the truth)to optimise the 360 version though as I do have faith in Remedy as a creative bunch of people. Interesting times ahead.

[skatezero246]

great read man I understand where your coming from I agree with you ... now that you mention that developers have had different time frames when it came to developing the game. and yea def. interesting times indeed ... bubbles up.

[RememberThe357]

No. The game looks great and all, but definitely not on Uncharted 2's level.

[Darkeyes]

Well, it does look awesome for an Open world game IMO.. That video of AC2 on PS3 at E3 really showed the games graphical power. Looks better than any open world game. A game to look out for.

But ya it's a little too far fetched to compare it with Uncharted 2.... Maybe next gen massive open world games will look as good as UC2 :D

From list, GOW3 and Heavy Rain...

[kaveti6616]

Assassin's Creed 2 looks fantastic for an open-world game. I don't want to commit any fallacies here, but I strongly believe that if Ubisoft made AC2 a more linear game like Uncharted 2, then they could probably bump up the visuals further. I don't know if they could best UC2 in visuals, but they could probably set a new multiplatform benchmark.

[Ron_Burgundy]

they all have to be PC games or PS3 exclusives :P

[FwanK]

Only one...

Uncharted 3

[Ron_Burgundy]

xbox 360 games can try, but will fail miserably to the graphical beast known as Uncharted 2

[PlayStation X]

is gamingbolt a biased site? they always chat sh1te
i understand heavy rain n gow3 challenging it but an xbox game? loool
if an xbox was capable of games like that we would of seen em a long time ago.

and thats a fact

[theDutchFella]

hahaha MGR and just Turned 10 are always good for some laughs.

[spongeboob]

It is not nice to laugh at mentally handicapped people but in this case i will let it pass.

[free3sixty]

Alan Wake can mess with Uncharted2... it uses DX10 features and has extremly sharp textures.

Heavy Rain looks also great but its the characters ONLY what makes the game looking so good.. have ya seen the ingame trailer? there are some cars and helicopters which look worse as in GTA4.

But RAGE is right now from what we have seen the best looking game, you cant disagree with that fact.

But at the end GAMEPLAY > graphics... a fact that PS3 owners dont care about, lol!

[heyheyhey]

yep and..

Uncharted 2 gameplay > 360 exclusives gameplay

[talltony]

Mainly because of ps3's super fast and efficient xdr ram and uncharted's excellent streaming technology.

[free3sixty]

Are many PS3 owners here? press agree if so...

[corneliuscrust]

think about it

[thebudgetgamer]

;

[Ripyealip]

the only two games i see on that list that MIGHT challenge uncharted 2 is god of war 3 and heavy rain they shoulda added killzone 3. the rest arent a challenge because 360 doesnt have the tech to produce graphics like uncharted 2

[Ares84PS3]

But I do agree with the rest though. I think we should wait and see. I'm very interested in Alan Wake...too bad it won't be on the PS3 :(

[Foxgod]

If you got a strong pc, that can run Assassins creed on max settings, it will kick UC2 ass upside down.
You people cant even imagine how good pc gfx look compared to console games.

[RememberThe357]

You played Assassin's Creed 2 on max setting already? Are you from the future?

[Perjoss]

Uncharted 2 is hands down my game of the year, but it does have an issue with low res textures. A PC built today (not even an expensive one) has around 6 gigs of ram and usually another 1 gig+ of ram on the graphics card, games on a PC can run at resolutions higher than 1080p and 99% of the time you have the option to whack up the anti aliasing above 4x, the texture quality in some games is extremely high also, consoles simply lack the power and ram.

Crysis running at max settings is still head honcho.

[Foxgod]

What Perjoss said, he knows what hes talking about.

[n4gno]

For the moment, and even with a pc at 4 times the price of ps3, not a single pc game come close to uncharted, stop using your denial mind or buy some glasses.

[Foxgod]

Lol right, you obviously never seen a pc game run in its fully glory.
I feel sorry for you.

[Perjoss]

dont make me link some screenshots boy :)

[nycredude]

You pc lovers need to learn to stay on topic. We are talking about a console game so why bring up pc specs? We get it, if you spend the money you get good graphics. However pc graphics don't impress me and do you know why? Cause it's easy to achieve when you have unlimited resourses. When you can create those same graphics with limited resources then you can boast all you want.

Fact is Uncharted too looks this way on any Ps3, you don't have to spend more money to make uncharted look great and play great!

[BlackTar187]

Why are we talking about PC of course like you said a comp can do this better it is a machine that is all based on your pockets and you almost always go better. not a fair comparison and funny that PC gamers would feel the need to brag about PC being better everyone knows that well except that one kid up above lol.

[Ares84PS3]

Why you guys involved the PC into the is beyond me. Like it or not Uncharted 2 is the best looking CONSOLE game so far. Get it??? Get it??? No???? Agian the magic word is CONSOLE.

We know that PC can do better. But this is not the best looking game of all time on all platforms. Crysis looks better if you have a PC that can run it on max.

[Perjoss]

the title reads:
"6 Games That Can Challenge Uncharted 2 Visually"

I dont see the word console in there. And anyway, no need to take it so personally.

[kaveti6616]

Well, with the open end power of PCs, all you have to do is work with a scalable engine and increase texture quality, lighting, frames per second, etc, and of course you can beat Uncharted 2. But I wouldn't call it fair. The whole point of praising Uncharted 2 is the fact that these devs are able to take a piece of hardware that is considered weak (by PC standards) and squeeze every drop of power they can out of it until it sings the way UC2 does or Killzone 2 does.

Here's something I believe. I believe Naughty Dog is able to do more with the hardware they are working with than Crytek was able to do with high-end PCs. If Sony allowed Naughty Dog to work on a PC game, and gave them the option of catering the game to a really high-end PC the way Crytek did, then I believe Naughty Dog could blow us away.

The amount of power a PC gives a developer is such that the developer doesn't right away think of conserving power and using any tricks to do things using less power. Crysis requires (at the time of release) a very high-end PC to run on max settings because Crytek didn't really think to optimize the Cryengine 2. All the cool effects took a lot of power on the computer's part to run. I think Sony should let Naughty or even Guerrilla Games to take a crack at making a high-end PC game with an engine designed for PC architecture. I think people would be blown away by the result.

[Cajun Chicken]

What about Max Payne 3?

[TheTeam06]

None of which are released. Kinda obvious that eventually, there will be a game that can surpass an older game graphically. Of all those games, the only one I can see truly passing it will be Heavy Rain. God of War is pretty close, but Heavy Rain takes the cake.

[cmrbe]

hasent seen The Last Gaurdian in-game footage from TGS 09. Visually that game is out of this world. Why is GT5 not in the list?.

Alan Wake looks good back in 2005. SC is just another UE game. AC2 and rage i agree with as they both look amazing.

I really do hope devs would go beyond U2 and get us more amazing looking titles.

[kaveti6616]

The most impressive thing about The Last Guardian is the rendering of the big dog/monster/thing. The texture of its fur is realistic. Unfortunately, I am upset by the dev's decision to make it that way because the rest of the game - the environments, the boy's model, etc - doesn't look as well-rendered. I wish it were more uniform because it makes the game look too weird.

[Foxgod]

Rage on PC on very high settings will absolutely destroy everything in terms of gfx =)

[BlackTar187]

Are we comparing uC2 to high end PC's sayin they will destroy UC i thought everyone knew this and pc/360/260 was not even something retards did? has that changed?

Is that a new argument PC is way better then ps3? i hope not because then in Comparison we will ahve to add a PC window and see how wins out of the 3 from now on lol.

[OpenGL]

I don't think so; the last trailer id released showed the game is suffering from a lot of the same graphical deficiencies Doom 3 did. The character models were laughable considering how much the game's graphics were hyped.

I suspect Crysis 2 on the PC will take the overall graphics crown in 2010. While the PC version likely won't blow Crysis 1 out of the water, I imagine the enhancements made with Cryengine 3 should bring some pretty large performance improvements over Cryengine 2 making the sequel better overall.

[Ares84PS3]

And you are right. PC's can do way better gfx than any console can but you are missing something. PC is not part of this article. It's about console games. So thank you but don't come again!!!

[AliTheBrit19]

I still don't get it

God of War III looks immense and all, but graphically? whats so special about it...no Seriously, can someone be specific here?

[bunbun777]

"On one of our Titans, we have probably ... I want to say as many joints on all of the characters that we had on God of War II on one character because of that."

[AliTheBrit19]

^^ That's animation, what the hell does the animation of a character have to do with how good the game looks visually?

I still don't see it, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain...these are games to make me lift my head and say, wow...

But God of War III? Graphics wise? nothing special, it isn't bad it just isn't incredible like people keep making it out to be..

[bujasem_89]

a Fanboy and just say everything, first of all we only saw an unfinished gameplay demo,so bear that in mind,

but from what i can tell is that the lightening effects in it were AMAzing as he changed the weapons ,obviously everybody noticed the gore organ system,

the characters and the environment are very VERY detailed u can see that at first when he clicks the start button its on kratos face the amount of polish on it is phenomenal every scratch wrinkle can be seen and thts ingame,

and basically mad fighting scenes with ALOT of enemies running on 60Fps 1080p without any troubles again this is only from the demo. i hope that helped

[ThatCanadianGuy]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Nuff said.

[cmacdonald]

Alan wake looked great 3 years ago, not so much now.

[dragonyght]

what can we say it was a tech demo

[Figboy]

it's not just the overall textures/lighting.

Nathan Drake's plethora of contextual animations REALLY sell the visual package.

take Resident Evil 5 for example. the game is visually stunning, truth told. it has great textures, great character models, really good environments, and pretty good lighting.

the character ANIMATIONS, and even ambient effects are severely lacking in that game. it looks and feels like a video game.

there is visually so much going on in a frame of Uncharted 2 that it's almost overwhelming. Killzone 2 featured the same level of detail.

Uncharted 2 is so highly praised because of the little details that we don't necessarily pick up on in real life because they're always there, but if they weren't, you'd notice in a heartbeat.

after playing Uncharted 2, then moving on to other games, i'm instantly reminded of the little details those games are missing that Uncharted 2 has. doesn't make those games any less great (Demon's Souls, for example, completely fails graphically when held up to Uncharted 2's standard, and yet Demon's Souls is a PHENOMENAL game).

games like U2 are a rarity. i don't expect every game to match what Naughty Dog has accomplished, but the bar has certainly been raised.

hopefully the praise U2 is getting will prompt developers to take a deeper look at the worlds and characters they create.

the most unique, original thing Naughty Dog has done with U2 that gets overlooked is how they managed to fully integrate Nathan into his environment. yes, he's a fully realized character with witty banter and an amiable nature, but gameplay wise, no other game i've ever played has grounded their character in their world as much as Uncharted 2.

GTAIV did a really good job of making Nico feel like he was a part of his environment (the way his body shifted weight when taking steps and running), but Uncharted 2 (and Uncharted 1; though no one wants to give that game the credit it deserves) has taken it to the next level, building upon what Jordan Mechner introduced in the Prince of Persia series way back when: fluid animations and making the character feel like he/she has mass and weight, and connecting him to his environment through interactions like hanging on ledges, collapsing floorboards, etc).

as i've said numerous times, i think the Uncharted series has more in common with the Prince of Persia series than the Tomb Raider series. it's connection to Tomb Raider is superficial (the "Indiana Jones" genre), while gameplay wise, i feel it's inspiration is more from Prince of Persia (mixing platforming, action, and puzzle solving with a strong central character and tight plots).

if there were ever a company i wouldn't mind taking over the Prince of Persia series from Ubisoft Montreal if they ever get bored of it, Naughty Dog would be it.

[RememberThe357]

That right there is why your my favorite commenter on this site.

[Figboy]

thanks! that means a lot! i never intend to be so verbose, but it happens every time. well, except for this post...

[crazydrummerlad1]

god of war 3 and heavy rain r the only ones that will

[ajay_solidsnake]

The gameplay in ALAN WAKE and HEAVY RAIN are meh...

[Nicaragua]

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[Counter_ACT]

Seeing Assassins Creed II on that list made me laugh.

[Foxgod]

Assassins creed 2, max settings, DX10.1 on damn high resolution = better looking then any console game ever made.

[strotee]

PS3: $300
High-end PC: $1000-2000

Foxgod: Moron

[ZombieAutopsy]

Whats up with you always bringing PC up in articles that are about CONSOLES. We all know a gaming pc with top notch hardware blows any console out of the water and always will, but guess what you're gonna be spending anywhere from 700-1500$ more to get that experience not to mention not all games come to PC.

Guessing your doing it because your a 360 fanboy and you're just trying to put down the Ps3, right??

[BlackTar187]

and Zombie is our winner today folks. Thanks for playing

[kaveti6616]

Well, you guys shouldn't compare multiplats to exclusives in the first place. It's not so much that the dev worries about any so-called "lowest common denominator," the real reason why multiplatform games don't look as good as exclusives most of the time is because the developers have to split up their efforts on to two or more platforms. They don't have enough time to take one console aside, tailor an engine to maximize on its strengths, and think about minute details the same way exclusive developers are able to. Multiplat developers make an engine that can be recognized with different architectures.

As I said in another post on here, my opinion of Assassin's Creed 2 is that it looks amazing for an open-world game, and if Ubisoft had made the gameplay linear the same way Uncharted 2 is (not a bash at UC2, just mean that you cannot explore the entire world in UC2) then I believe Ubisoft could make Assassin's Creed 2 look much better, to the point where no one would believe this could have been a multiplatform game.

[kornbeaner]

will not challenge UC2 on Graphic saw the game at e3 and while it does look good its not on the same level as UC2

[CobraKai]

I don't think Splinter Cell looks that impressive graphically speaking. It looks very bland. Not to say the game won't kick ass but, it just doesn't belong on this list.

[IRetrouk]

I have to admit that i am planing to buy all 6 of those games but i dont think any of them match uncharted 2, they all look brill but none of them other than heavy rain has the almost real lookin models in game, just watch a clip from uncharted 2 or heavy rain, now show me what beats those 2 alone?

[Rubberlegs]

I'd say God of War 3 out of that bunch of games. Heavy Rain doesn't look as good as it first did when it shown a couple years back at E3. One thing about Uncharted 2 characters is the eyes, they pull you into the character. You don't get that from Heavy Rain.

[djfullshred]

Because of different art & game styles, sometimes opionion comes into play when comparing what looks like better graphics.

But I say bring on the competition for best graphics. That is a win for us game players.

[Neo604]

In the mean time nothing out there can even compare.

[jesuisankit]

I dont know why ppl are saying SC or Alan wake dont look that great.. I mean they both do a damn good job of convincing their worlds.. we I feel every game except AC2 is a good mention in that list.. but Rage will truly be a masterpiece/

[Freak of Nature]

Different style and premise but the "Last gaurdian" has a chance to rival U2....

And with the great quirky creative style of Oddworld Inhabitants I am in hopes that when their game based on their up-coming movie Citizen siege comes out can rival the great UC2....A Oddworld Inhabitants new gen game just needs to come out.

Uncharted 2 sure has rocked the eye candy World.....Just beautiful in every regard....

[Tex117]

I really could care less about raw horse power with graphics.

If a game has a great art design, runs well, and is fun to play then sign me up.

For example, Demon's Souls. Graphically it is not a beast, but it has a good art design, animations are good, and its damn fun to play.

[NotoriousWarrior]

it amazing that Sony keep beating their own games in quality and graphics its a shame that there is no competition.

The only 2 i see touching Uncharted 2 are GoW3 and Heavy Rain. Killzone 3, Resistance 3 and so on will come to beat each other.

360 fans don't come here and point out that gameplay > graphics cos PS3 has both. Have you even played Demons Souls, Killzone 2, Uncharted/2, inFAMOUS and all the other games?

I have played all of them and i dont any other games touching them. They may miss out in a few things but they are the best at their genre so far.

Im talking about console games.

[bunbun777]

From Ken Feldman, the art director f GoW 3

"There are some truths in that we are using the same engine, but the renderer is brand new -- we're not using anything that was with the God of War II game rendering system. We are using a brand new renderer, brand new animation system, because the animation system needs to sit on the SPU so that it runs really fast, so we could have four times or 10 times as many joints on character; so we could do things like the Titans. On one of our Titans, we have probably ... I want to say as many joints on all of the characters that we had on God of War II on one character because of that.

The core engine is all brand new because it has to be able to manage across all the SPUs. What would be the same would be like our entity code. So the game play code was great, because from the very start we were able to continue designing game play. What we didn't have was the new types of game play that we wanted. I mean, we could still wall climb and all that, but we couldn't walk on Titans. We couldn't ride on the back of characters, so we had to make that kind of stuff. So we had to improve on the engine. I would say that a lot of the engine is new."

It looks like *SPOILER* when Drake almost falls out of the building *ENDSPOILER* is just the beginning of the physics funtime.

[Awesomeo3000]

heavy rai and thats it not splinter cell or alan wake lol they dont look nearly as good as uncharted this article is a joke as most articles that come up on this site

[chase167]

Splinter Cell: Conviction
Alan Wake

sorry i dont believe it

[tudors]

UC2 is very impressive but this does not mean that all other games fail, lets just wait and see instead of speculating, you can judge a game by peoples enthusiasm, tell me you do not want to play Alan Wake and I will call you a fraud, the graphics especially some of the lighting look fantastic, I think it will shock quite a few people.

[devilhunterx]

Alan in the Dark: The Flashlight Adventure

[topdawg122]

I'd put GT5 in there for sure, that looks freakin amazin

[NecrumSlavery]

Splinter Cell looks good but not uncharted 2 good.

[MetalGearRising]

Out of all those games only Splinter Cell Conviction and Alan Wake will sell day 1 more than a million and that's a fact.

[Blitzed]

I apologise as this is a little off topic, but it could be about one of these games.

I was hoping someone could tell me what devs are in Toronto, since I was on the train yesterday and overheard 2 developers discussing some problems they are having with a publisher of the 'big' game they are developing.

They were careful not to mention the title and were trying to speak quietly, but what I did pick up is that 'they have to drop the multiplayer' due to the publisher pushing for a '9 month turnaround'.

They were also arguing with the publisher about the need for a main story co-op and were critizing a lot of games that didnt have it (Resistance 3 being one of them- not to mention critizing the story as well). They continued to complain that the publisher has changed the entire focus of the game in the past, and stessing about the 9 month turnaround to do so.

Also, I heard one mention a 'vortex' graphic for the death screen (although he may have been talking about his past work experience on a game.) They also critizied the 'Japanese love of muted colors', but again, this may have been in regards to past expereinces with publishers.

Finally, They concluding the publisher 'just promised too many things' and one said to the other 'just put yourself on autopilot for the next 9 months and think about the next game'; suggesting these problems were going to hurt the final game enough that it will probably flop.

Anyways, thats it. I am hoping some of you on here that know a whole lot more than I do, can put on your detective caps and see if theres anything here of substance.

[foxtheory]

Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy Versus 13 (maybe not, but so far it looks promising)
Uncharted 3 (obviously)

As of right now, though, Uncharted 2 is the best looking game on any console. There's no doubt about that. Can't wait to see how console graphics will evolve over the rest of this gen, and eventually next gen. It's hard to picture 10 years from now when we'll be looking back on Uncharted 2 and saying that the graphics are outdated.

[Saaking]

Nothing can challenge UC1 let alone 2. Unless it's a PS3 exclusive.

[Yaman_NZ]

I love Uncharted 2!!
Just a note to the Atheists or the 'unsure' people out there, if you find it so hard to believe that a mere game like Uncharted 2 could exist without so much hard work, which took 18 months or more from the Naughty Dog team to do, then shame on you for believing that the whole universe coincidentally came out of a Big Bang.

[dragonelite]

The engine was there so yeah it could be done.
Just like odst was done in what 10 months or so engine was done artist know what the engine can do. Lets just assume the core of the engine was done.

[JonnyBigBoss]

God of War 3 is drop dead GORGEOUS from what I played at E3. Splinter Cell doesn't stand a chance, but Heavy Rain also does.

[seifer085]

GT 5 or Heavy Rain and hoping that FF Vs13 can make this enjoyable jump to better graphics on my Ps3!

[piroh]

Killzone 2, MGS 4, Heavy Rain, Last Guardian, GT5, Killzone 2, GOW3

[QuantumWake]

Without a doubt, Heavy Rain looks beast! The character animations and models look very top-notch. God Of War III looks very awesome to. At a whopping 1080p, I think GOWIII can pull of a better visual feet than Uncharted 2. Alan Wake looks great too. Splinter Cell: Conviction.... Meh... Could go either way. I don't think it has that much of a visual punch than the games I mentioned. Though it does look fairly nice. :)

PS... Props to Naughty Dog for creating such an awesome game. They have really outdone themselves by bringing forth such a visual powerhouse! Thank you so much for your dedication to Uncharted 2! I look forward to seeing your future games! Cheers! :D

[Gaidrius]

Alan Wake and Assassin's Creed II?! Those games shouldn't be on this list. Their visuals are "okay", bit it's not like they can compete with Uncharted II. Does anyone still agree that MGS4 is still the best looking console game?

[blakstarz]

I love how Uncharted 2 is intimidating just about everything in the industry....I guess the PS3 has finally shut people up.

[Barragan]

well its time i put some input in this, first of all the only games on pc that are anywhere near a ps3 exclusive is crysis, crysis warhead, and arma 2, and ive see those maxed and they dont look better than uncharted 2, if i looked on 2 tv screens no matter what resolution, i and had one of crysis, crysis warhead or arma 2 and uncharted 2 on the other screen, then i would be more likely to see uncharted 2 looking WAAAAAY more movie like than either 3 of the maxed out best looking pc games,

also ive said it before and ill say it again, pc fans act as if they have seen the ps3 playing a game maxed out, but looking at games like the last guardian, gow3, uncharted 2, heavy rain and some of the other top ps3 visual titles, i dont see how you claim pc can do over what ps3 can, when no one has come close to maxing it out,

also even if the best of pc maxed beat uncharted 2, that would be a waste of pc tech if developers wanted to show the "superiority" of pc graphics, cause wardevil will be the real show of ps3

[DLA2K9]

Anyone remember the time when gameplay made the game, NOT graphics?

Yea.....go jump in a hole called the PS3 and have bad framerates and delays....

[cooperdnizzle]

the only 3 are gow3, heavy rain, and rage all the other ones no way

[The_Zeitgeist]

Why because they are all on 360? Don't be a douche.

[xryls]

LOL at alan wake being on that list

[The_Zeitgeist]

Its all in they eye of the beholder. I still think that visually Bioshock is the best game this gen. It may not have the best technical look but for me its all about artistic vision. I am playing Uncharted 2 right now (on a break), so I can give this valid opinion without getting bubbles knocked. Uncharted 2 is defiantly the most realistic looking game this gen. But as far as overall presentation and atmosphere I still give the crown to Bioshock.

[bigrudowsky]

I totally agree with what you said i personally love the art style of gears of war i thought it looked amazing part two stepped it up. Gears to me is your bioshock lol on the other side though i think god of war looks amazing.

[Its_The_Truth]

6- Heavy Rain
5- God of War 3
4- 8 Days
3- Resistance 3
2- Killzone 3
1- Uncharted 3

Its_The_Truth

[dopeboimagic92]

Probably God of War 3 if anything.

[Salta_nelas]

At this moment not even a PS3 exclusive comes close to U2 beauty. Pherhaps KZ3 will take the cake once again.

[bekum_aka_jarhed]

lmfao wtf Alan Wake ? NO ! RAGE ? NO Splinter Cell: Conviction HELL NO

[njmzhang]

LoL@Alan Wake

[QuantumWake]

Whats wrong with Alan Wake? Sure, it doesn't look as good as Uncharted 2, but it does look very slick for an open world game. To each his own.. I guess. ;)

[frnkyl]

I'm pretty sure Alan Wake isn't an open world game anymore.

[QuantumWake]

I believe Remedy said that Alan Wake is no longer a 'sandbox' game. Alan Wake still has open world elements between missions. I believe during the day, the player may interact with other NPCs in the town of Bright Falls.

[i_like_ff7]

Rage and God of War are the only ones to look out for...

[Relientk77]

Y didnt they list Gran Turismo 5?

I am confused

the graphics on that are ridiclous

[QuantumWake]

Ridiculous? Or ridiculously good?! lol :D

[Relientk77]

ridiculously good

[bigrudowsky]

i love uncharted but it does have its graphical flaws quite a bit of jaggies in some of the levels somethings dont look to impressive.. I'm not talking about the cutscenes cause yes the cutscenes look amazing i think the best looking levels are the ice levels. I'm not hating but after playing it i was dissappointed with some of the visuals but the game is amazing.

[bigrudowsky]

My list is mass effect 2,alan wake,brink,bad company 2 and undoubtedly God Of War 3.. Heavy rain looks great but something is missing not much is going on in the scenes so.

[Commodore]

Uncharted 2 is amazing.

But early next year we got

GT5 (Suck it Forza) and GOD OF WAR 3 (does the 360 have any game that can be the counterpart to this?)

And the game that will look better than Uncharted 2 will probably be The Lat Guardian.

[spektical]

Lol the only games that will challenge U2 are God of War 3 , Heavy Rain and GT5.. there is NO xbox game that will come close... comparing 360 games to ps3 games is like comparing a 60's computer to a computer nowadays. the difference is huge but the 360 is known for their fanboys who are mostly 12 year olds that make this donkey look educated : http://www.youtube.com/watc... .. i swear these 360 fans are annoying and talk with no direction or purpose i.e they talk to talk

[mayberry]

I remember when I first thought that the tide was turning for graphics and gameplay comparisons between the ps3 and xbox. It was after playing uc1 and ac1. The first time i played assassins creed 1, when I rode the horse, I just could't get how a "next-gen" developer could make a horses animation so inferior to even a ps2 game(namely sotc) agro's animation was so much better, and uncharted 1 was so much better than ac1, That I was thinking, well... ... here we go! PS3 ftw!

[level 360]

I seriously think these games hasn't reached what Uncharted 2 has ever done yet.. and that is genuinely combine great cinema and awe-inspiring gaming abilities.

I'm sure they will be good games but not as great as Uncharted 2.

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

Alan Wake is in no way going to challenge Uncharted 2. Especially when all the BEAUTIFUL and LARGE WORLD screenshots and videos were for the PC version. No way in hell the 360 version is going to look anywhere near THAT when it was demonstrating daisy chained graphics cards "Crossfire" and Quad core processors with around 4 gb of ram. And Splinter cell? LOL Unreal 3 Engine amazing us? That's a laugh. I can see Heavy Rain and God of War 3 challenging it, I can see Rage challenging it since id is known for huge graphics tech, but I don't see ASS creed 2 challenging it. Except in scope.

[Paralex]

I looked at each image and immediately said "nope" after looking at all of them. All of those games pale in comparison to Uncharted 2. Don't get me wrong, they look good, but they don't touch Uncharted 2 when it comes to graphics.

[samfk]

h8 me but ive played the beta ,and whilst that only gives me an indication of the full game ,its colourful yes but nothing id write home about!bioshocks graphics for 1 where way above uncharted!can people on this sight ever look at something subjectively??

[GarandShooter]

So you THINKING Bioshock looks better is subjective, but someone THINKING Uncharted 2 looks better is bias? And you've come to this conclusion by comparing a multiplayer beta to a single player retail version? Absolute genius!

[keysy420]

shut up. that statement goes shut up or put up . they need to stop saying their on the ps3 level till it shows and right now it doesn t

[theone26]

I think GOW3 has more potential than Heavy rain for surpassing UC2's graphics mainly due to the epic proportion of titan levels. Rage looked good but the character models are borderline Doom3 level. The rest from that list has no chance by a country mile.

[meetajhu]

Rage will demolish any game coz its a game by IDsoftware!

[multipayer]

Everyone knows all these games will rape Uncharted on PC, and that is the flaw of PS3 games... They could be on PC, looking better, but instead Alan Wake will triumph.

[WIIIS1]

IMO Uncharted 2 maxed out the PS3, so we're looking at future 360 games to surpass it.

[napoleon_ist]

...That Wanna Challenge Uncharted 2 Visually. :|

[spinbot_lv1]

only 1 game
Halo Reach...nothing else.nuff said.

I dream every night when I'll play halo reach I'll dress the suit of master chief and i'll be in another world.thanks microsoft.I can't wait.

[hennessey86]

alan wake is stunning and u 360 haters need to stop bein so biased lucky for me i have both consoles so i dont have to be pathetic half of you clowns wont even aknowlege any 360 games its quite sad

[bunfighterii]

I'll have to play them to find out, but so far the only thing in Uncharted 2's league i've seen is Killzone 2.

[BabyColada]

Am I missing something? Because I am failing to see the point of this article that's basically a list of *possibly* good looking games.

Who cares?

I can name a dozen other games that could beat Uncharted 2 in the visuals department and I don't feel the need to dedicate an article to the subject.

As for the list itself, I don't agree with a few on the list, namely Alan Wake and Splinter Cell, both of which won't beat Uncharted visually. And no mention of games like Final Fantasy XIII or Gran Turismo 5? Those are some glaring omissions my friend.

[OGharryjoysticks]

Heavy Rain will be better if only because it's the type of game that won't need to use a ton of power elsewhere because it's not heavy action based. Heavy Rain is going to be all story and graphics. The story is supposed to be mature and the graphics are CG quality all the way. Go check out some screen grabs for the game.

[Xino Gramoso]

and from the words of id sofware this game will lock better on pc and xbox 360... very nice

[Xino Gramoso]

i dont see wy so mutch talk about uncharted 2 grafics, crysis in VERY HIGHT kick ass at every game, and no console can run that game even in normal def...

[Grandreaper9999]

If in at least one year a game DOESN'T manage to top Uncharted 2, there's something seriously wrong. I'm expecting it to be outdone by the end of Q2 next year.

[hawkie007]

The key word here is "CAN". Let's wait and see if they deliver and "DO" challenge Uncharted 2.

After all if that is the case all gamers will be winners, there are no losers in this debate.

[DevastationEve]

Uncharted 2 is okay on its own, but fails to achieve any real significant improvements. It's still a 3rdPS Tomb Raider clone with a cover system borrowed from Gears of War.

Seriously, I challenge anyone to list $60 worth of innovations that Uncharted or Uncharted 2 brings NEW to this gen. It's great at what it does, but what does it do NEW?

(this is a serious question).

[dustgavin]

Have you even played the game? I highly doubt it.

I am just now in Chapter 22 and the story, graphics, immersion and controls are just off the charts.

You don't think so? Ok. Now I challenge you to name any game on 360 or Wii that has been released this year that is new and innovative and comes even close to the quality of Uncharted 2.