TOKYO, May 23 (Reuters) - Japan's Square Enix Co. on Wednesday posted a 68 percent rise in annual operating profit on strong sales of its "Final Fantasy XII" roll-playing game, but forecast a smaller profit this year, sending its shares lower.
needs must !
Expect the 360 to be fully supported, including FFXIII. FFXIII may even be released on "day 1" with the PS3 version.
xbox360 will get multiplatofrm Last Remnant on UE3.0 and some MMORPG, so i think it is a support. =) and if KH3 will be made on UE3.0, then it will also probably go to x360. all game from square, which will be made on UE3.0 will have a high chance to go to x360. But for now, White Engine is exclusive to PS3. and making such Engine to go multiplatform will take atleast 1,5 year. For Example: "--MT Framework supports multiplatform. In addition to 360 and PC, they are implementing it for PS3 too. Apparently PC support was developed mainly for development efficiency and prototyping, not really for actual product release. In Oct. 2005 the prototypes for Lost Planet and Dead Rising were already up and running. Around this time, to answer requests for the PS3 version from other people in Capcom they started implementation for PS3 by reusing the basic design of the framework. The PC/360 version was developed by 3 people and then 5, and for the PS3 version 4 people were added.--" So, DR came almost after 1 year, and LP after 1 year + several month. To port LP on pc takes a half a year. And LP is short enough game. DMC4 for ps3 on same engine will come only in 2008, so almost after 2 year, when the engine was ready on pc/x360. Now, i am not sure, is WE ready for ps3, we will probably see that at E3, but, if this engine wasn`t creating simultaneously, then it will take 1 year to adopt engine for xbox360 + 1 year to port such BIG game. So in some 2010 there could be FFXIII release on x360. Still interested? Maybe. =)
its because they don't have any major hard hitters coming out in late 07/beginning of 08. they're one major console release this year is Dawn of Mana. plus if they did start supporting 360, it would be years before the game came out, cause squenix is infamous for taking as long as they need for the game to be of AAA quality. so supporting 360 would do absolutely nothing for the short run, which is what this article is focused on. after a great year with FFXII and various other, its about time they took a break. 08 will be a huge year for them, with all the XIII variations coming out plus all the other titles not affiliated with FF.
after a 68% rise in profit I don't think share drop is going to scare them into multiplatform release on there FF. Come on guys 360 is getting Last Remenats and such. Bonsai is right shares are going down becuase they really don't have anything big coming of for a bit now.
And not showing the 360 any love, and see where you will be in 2009. There is no such thing as a $660 (PS3+FF13) dollar game to this gamer. I will not buy a PS3 for one game. @4.2: No, I wasn't suggesting that they would be out of business by 2009. Only that they will experience more and more revenue losses each quarter until they decide to show the only REAL next gen "GAMING" platform some love. How much of a beating their company/pride can withstand, is up to them. Welcome change and jump in.
No one buys a console for just ONE game
Cyber... are you suggesting that SE is gonna go out of buisness in 2009 because they aren't putting out FFXIII on 360?!! lol that's a good joke man. Oh and IF they only made remakes (which they don't) they'd be able to stay in business for 20+ years and on. SE is also making games that play on the 360 in fact there is one out right now! FFXI which by the way is an awesome game ^^ I have it on PC but I'm sure it rocks on the 360 as well
Halo 3 says Hello
No one buys a console for one game but Sony has at least 12 games I want that come out this year(6 already pre-ordered). Microsoft has one(Mass Effect, Maybe Halo 3, can get Bioshock on PC)
Actually... I would. I would buy a PS3 for Final Fantasy or Metal Gear. I think each is worth $600 + Game. I've playing all versions of final fantasy and all major version of metal gear. Even if I they bring it to a console I dislike I would buy it just to play the games. I am a gamer not a console lover. If I like the games even if one I would pay it. Call me crazy... but only certain type of people (Sony Fanboys) purchase a system because of the specs or because they believe games WILL COME. Some of us prefer waiting for the goods to be available before buying something just to have it. Specially now... why should I buy a PS3 when the games I really want to play will not be out for another year. Notice: it's my opinion... and you can bring a huge list of games that will be available for the PS3 that you are looking forward to get your hands on... but, it does not mean I want them. The way I see is... the games I am willing to play $600+game for are not available now.. When they are release then I will buy the console. I would hate myself if I purchase a PS3 just to see this game go multiplatform. I understand if I didnt have a 360 already.. maybe it wouldnt matter which console I pick... but rather spend $60 for a game than spend $600+$60 to play the same game.
and thats why you have 6 bubbles and not 1
As a gamer I really hope their profits continue to be hit hard. That should teach them a thing or two about not mixing love with business. They always loved Sony and regarless of installbase they decided to give nothing to the 360 while the developers that decided to support the 360 are making money. I love square and I will follow final fantasy to wherever platform they go. But, I shouldn't be force to buy another console to play their games. I say burn! not completely... but burn enougn so they can support the 360 and I dont have to buy a PS3.
it hurts you, doesnt it?
Heck, yeah... I have follow these IPs before Sony or Microsoft were part of the picture. To give you an example, it hurts as much as it hurts Sony fans not having titles like MassEffect, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, C&C3, Gears, Bioshock...
you just contradicted yourself bladstar. "I love square and I will follow final fantasy to wherever platform they go." "I shouldn't be force to buy another console to play their games" First Square Enix isn't forcing you to buy a console, but if you want to play FFXIII as of now you'll have to follow it to the PS3 platform which they went to. Second, hoping for them to burn so they can support the 360 is kind of silly. They target RPG people. US in essence are not RPG people Japan are RPG people. So if Square Enix gets a little cripy from not getting money all their heavy hitting games will then appear on Wii not the 360. Third, and most important, Square Enix IS showing love to the 360! They have two games coming out for it and 1 of them is exclusive. Last Remenant and Project Slypseed. Plus with the liscense of UE3 it goes without saying there will be more.
--C&C-- and bioshock(almost) already on --PC--. In some interview, developer said, that it`s possible to port C&C to ps3 and even Wii. And --Bioshock-- could just be a timed exclusive. =) anyway, it`s on --pc--, it doesnt hurt. --Mass effect--, just like all bioware games will come to --PC--. --Gears-- also should come on --pc-- in some time. And unless you play graphics, not game, you can wait 1-1,5 year. --Halo3..-- also will come to --pc--, after 2-3 years, well and i actually not that big fps lover, so it doesn`t hurt much. Blue Dragon left.., apart it is childish, if all mistwalker jrpg will stay exclusive to x360, then there will be a point for me to buy x360 in some 2009(when x360 stops dying), because i love jrpgs. =) Reeeally, i don`t see the advantage of x360+PC over PS3+PC, Maybe You See? But i really see the advantage of PS3+PC over x360+PC. Because on pc always will be some must play games like Crysis, Stalker, Company of heroes, Total War series, Heroes series, Settlers, a lot of strategy games (i love them too), and other pc only games like Starcraft 2 or Titan Quest. In the middle 2008 all these games will run fast on every middle-end pc, my point, soon or later, you will have to upgrade pc. :)
"you just contradicted yourself bladstar. "I love square and I will follow final fantasy to wherever platform they go." "I shouldn't be force to buy another console to play their games"" its not contradicting himself, its saying he shouldnt but he does, its called loyalty, just like we buy the games and shouldnt have to buy extra content, but we do.
con·tra·dict(kntr-dk t) v. con·tra·dict·ed , con·tra·dict·in g, con·tra·dicts v.tr. 1. To assert or express the opposite of (a statement). first statment:"I love square and I will follow final fantasy to wherever platform they go." second statment:"I shouldn't be force to buy another console to play their games" uh-huh... or I guess you could say the definition is 'its saying he shouldnt but he does' anyway if you don't want to buy ps3 don't just don't complain that you can't play the FF game then
Why shouldn't I complain? Final Fantasy not equal Sony as much as you Sony fanboys would love to portrait it. When my mom finally gave me a Nintendo back in 1987 and got me this game.... Playstation who!? Yes, that's right... Final fantasy was out before Microsoft or Playstation was around and will probably be after the last Playstation or xbox is released. That's the difference between being a gamer and a console lover. there is no disapointment when you follow the games and not the console.
woa now cowboy... I know FF started out on Nintendo. Metal Gear started out on Nintendo as well as Dragon Quest, Ninja Gaiden, and plenty others. Final Fantasy doesn NOT equal Sony. FFXIII could come out on the GameGear for all I care. I'm just saying if your so wanting to play said game then it's never the company forcing you to buy the company it's YOU who are spiting the console it's on.
How you xbots think Mass Effect and Blue Dragon are gonna be the top dogs of 360. Blue Dragon did okay (at best) in japan, and japan loves games like these not americans or the Europeans are heavy into role playing games. Mass Effect yeah okay MS will sh!t a brick if it sells over a million. As far as C&C please PC game thru and thru. What's the software amount on that title for 360 150k? Bioshock... alright yet another shooter whooo hoooo... Gears, okay I can't touch that one, what's it at 4 million?
whats your problem?...
That's interesting... you complain about xbox fans, "How you xbots think Mass Effect and Blue Dragon are gonna be the top dogs of 360. Blue Dragon did okay (at best) in japan" yet you piss on your pants when you see CGI or images of PS3 games. Yet xbox 360 can be excited about any upcomming games? Blue dragon is proven to be a good title. "As far as C&C please PC game thru and thru" true, I have followed this IP since the first one (Tiberian Dawn in 1995). PC game or not, guess which game for the 360 is selling better than any PS3 game.... WOW! C&C3! Did it matter it was a PC port? How can this be!? All PS3 games are not selling better than some $h!tty PC port? "What's the software amount on that title for 360 150k" uhh.. the game just came out and it sold better than any PS3 game... that does that tell you about it? http://vgchartz.com/aweekly... EDIT: @binkery you are such of fanboy... do you actually know what you are talking about? 172,018 is the total number of sales for this game only in the US. But you are failing to understand that it sold that many copy in a single month. This crappy game as you call it... sold better than any PS3 game. I mean, look at the PS3 top games total sells; realesed for several months: motorm storm: 277,614 Resistance: Fall of Man: 679,787 Now, when Motor storm or Resistance catch up to these: Gears Of War: 2,698,430 Oblivion: 1,113,146 Then, I would agree with you about, "yet another crappy game on the 360".... cause just by looking at the charts... you are in no position to even talk about sells performances unless you are talking about the wii.
I was right 172,018 units sold!!!! Thanks for proving me right Bladestar. Your a true scholar yes that you are. "yet you piss on your pants when you see CGI or images of PS3 games. Yet xbox 360 can be excited about any upcoming games?" Oh no you can get excited about your games but I'm ticked off at any announcement of yet another crappy game on the 360 all the bots come out and squeel with joy that "OMG yet another AAA title coming out on the 360 HAHAH suck on that" <-- it's crap like that I hate, which is what you did with the NOT proven Blue Dragon and the wait and see Mass Effect. Hell you guys know absolutely nothing about Alan Wake other than it looks pretty good and you already claim it's a AAA.... give me a break wow resorting to throw out numbers... what a cheesy politician. Crappy games yes indeed. You can't deny that the 360 is only a quick fix for this new generation of gaming. Even MS admits it by releasing the Elite. Fixing some of the problems but not all of them. They didn't fix all of the because they want to release another version next year with even better options. Unfortunately like all sheep you'll buy it and some other "CRAPPY" games for it. Why not get an actual system that does what is says and makes games that are meant to be part of the next generation of gaming. 360 is a joke all it is is a xbox1 with a better graphics card and is a hell of alot more expensive and doesn't bring anything to the table other than it's precious live that was out on the first box...hell I'd get an xbox1 because I know it won't die on me after 3 months. MS is bad for gaming you know it I know hell everyone knows it but because your all weak minded fools you just waste your money on it. For some people they bought 3 or more just cuz it keeps breaking. Who's the fanboy now? Not me. I'm just rational.
Get over their whole "no downloads of classic games" stance, and put the old Nintendo Squaresoft games on the Wii virtual console, and put the old PS1 Squaresoft games on the Playstation store. Once Sony gets off their arses and puts out the PS Store on the PSP, then PS1 downloads could get HUGE. There's 25 million PSP's out there... I would personally buy Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, Parasite Eve, and Bushido Blade in a heartbeat if I could play them on the PSP... A LARGE percentage of the AAA titles for the PS1 were put out by Suaresoft... They could make a KILLING by offering downloads of their classic games...
I kinda prefer FFX over 12 but I am looking forwards to FF13 & verse!
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