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Army Of Two Producer: Retailers Hate Sony

Army Of Two: The 40th Day Producer, Matte Turner, in a recent interview with PLAY magazine, reckons that retailers must "hate them", after the recent release of its download-only PSPgo.

Turner also reckons the whole "download only thing is very cool", pointing to the fact that the end of discs is potentially far closer than we think, he goes on "It's all going that way and Sony is going that way early. I'm sure [retailers aren't] very impressed, but I think it's cool and we'll see how it does".

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N4G king5308d ago

i cant see this guy's point

HEEEEELLLLLLOOOOOOO
the same games (new) are going out in UMD's too
and the old PSP's are still on sale

and PSPgo is not a replacement
its a new choice

pphoenix5308d ago

It's sony testing how stupid customers are & if they are ready to give up their right of ownership in favor of sony's preferred model of the end of the second hand market.

Bend over for sony & their anti consumer PSP Go as you are now:

NOT allowed to trade your games,

NOT allowed to lend your games,

NOT allowed to sell your games,

NOT even allowed to give your games away for free.

Not allowed to even give you games away when you sell your PSP Go as it is tied to your PSN account, when you sell your PSP Go you are ordered by sony to format the system or face legal proceedings.

Of course sony could be pro-consumer by allowing us all to trade, lend, give our games away for free & even sell them via a FREE transfer programme, but sony would rather sell everyone a new copy from their store that holds the monopoly over pricing.

the sony bloggers will argue that you still have a choice with the psp 3000, but this is only temporary, sony will no doubt switch to digital "stab us in the ***" distribution asap.

the other argument is steam, sorry sony the "they were anti consumer first" is not an excuse.

Persistantthug5308d ago

I do think you have a point.

Digital only copies of games suck. The only game I have that's a DL'd copy is of FAT PRINCESS.

I hate the idea that I can't trade or sell MY own copy to someone on Craigslist or something. It's mine and I want to do with it what I want and it is true, Sony has always wanted this type of control over their products.

That said, Sony makes and has very good products.

Motion5308d ago

But the days of "owning" a piece of software are pretty much over. All consumers do now is purchase the rights to use it, and digital distribution basically keeping anyone but the original seller from being able to sell those rights. I know, semantics, but that's the way software companies look at it...just read any EULA's.

Rhythmattic5308d ago (Edited 5308d ago )

You all above are right.

Lets put it in context, Sony or No Sony, MS, Google, the entire computing world is looking at Digital Downloads....

It wont happen overnight, but it will happen.

Just stand back and think for a moment, Cloud computing, its where it ends....

They will be no app on your local Machine, but run via the interweb.

Who the hell wants their personal documents stored on a server (and noobs are all ready doing this) while we all will eventually be paying for the use of an app per hour?

I dont like it.

Damn, i'm blabbing on, however, maybe you see my concern.

OT

Look at iPhone. Retailers sell the product, then users buy apps from the online iTunes store.... Who's complaining ?

Come to think of it, maybe its because EB Games cant trade a new game in and make a 250% mark up on it.

MNicholas5308d ago

and, as a software developer, he likes sticking it to the retailers.

SupaPlaya5308d ago (Edited 5308d ago )

they don't hate the PSP Go. They just hate someone is starting the trend of digital downloads on something they previously profit off of.

IPODs and IPhone on the other hand didn't have any software or disk based content that they sold prior to their introduction. They do sell they ITunes store card which the stores profit off of I would assume. No retail store claims they hate the IPhone/IPods.

That's a similar reason why people are upset at the Activison CEO for increasing the game price in one region. Because he is starting a trend we don't like.

pphoenix
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Can you share XBLA games on a 360?
Can you share a song legally on an IPOD?
Can you share a game or an app you downloaded off of the apple app store?
Can you sell your song on your IPOD?

Yes this is a trend that Sony is starting DD with their PSP but as stated they are not the first to do it. That's like saying screw music download now you can't share or sell your CDs! This is a trend/progression as the Internet speed increases. There are advantage in DD vs media too. For example:

No more lost or scratched disk problems
Lower manufacturing cost/distribution cost COULD mean lower game cost

"but this is only temporary, sony will no doubt switch to digital "stab us in the ***" distribution asap."

As long as the PSP3000 is still available I don't think your argument is valid. May be your post has more weight on the day Sony makes the PSP GO the only model available. As long as disk based media is still an option, people have the choice. If they are totally taking that away, then I would agree with you.

Foliage5308d ago

If it fails, everyone will jump all over Sony. If it succeeds, everyone will jump all over Sony, Microsoft will ripoff the idea and get the credit for the "innovation". Sony can't win either way.

likedamaster5308d ago

I'm all for digital download, just not for overpriced glorified iPods.

Foliage5308d ago (Edited 5308d ago )

@ SupaPlaya

I see you managed to forget PSN, Sony Connect, etc.

Granted, Sony weren't the first to introduce Digital Downloads, but it would be foolish to think that the PSP Go was their first attempt.

Also, the cable company has been doing this for quite some time with Pay Per View. Which is sort of where this all began.

SupaPlaya5308d ago

The reason I brought those up is to show Sony is not the first to try DD, and DD is not necessarily a bad thing for some people with the game sharing feature on PSN.

The only bad thing would be the lack of choice should DD be the only option in the future.

BrianC62345308d ago

Can't retailers just sell cards with download codes on them too? I think that would be the best way to keep them happy. I'm sure some people still don't want to use their credit card on a gaming system. Sell cards you can buy in the store. Parents can give them to their kids for Christmas or something.

Foliage5308d ago (Edited 5308d ago )

@ SupaPlaya

That's what I figured. It's just the problem with N4G is that people tend to run off thinking almost anything is a fact. I didn't want people to see your comment and think that Microsoft started DD with XBLA or that Apple started it with itunes. They, much like Sony, didn't start it either. The market has been moving towards this direction for some time. It just seems drastic now, because customers are now starting to no longer have a choice. Iphone Apps and the PSPgo can only get content in one way, granted you could get a regular PSP.

ThanatosDMC5308d ago (Edited 5308d ago )

Eventually, small to medium sized games will go digital... by that i mean less than 10gb. I'm using PS3 games as a standard not those multiplat games either.

Cant wait for downloadable PS2 games and more classic PS1 games. Though they are releasing those remade PS2 games on bluray but they have been upgraded.

infamous_275307d ago

PSP 3000- PSP go

is like

disc walkmans- ipod

Raz5307d ago (Edited 5307d ago )

Another 'meh' article spiced up with a flamebait title.

We won't see the beginning of the cloud computing era until the Internet is connected, high-speed and dirt-cheap everywhere. And it isn't, yet.

Good for Sony jumping on early, but IMHO it's a little premature. All the more so because the PSP never really caught on either. I use my iTouch more often.

..iTouch? What am I saying - ok, cloud computing is here. But it's still premature, darn it!

SuperM5307d ago

People who agree with pphoenix are braindead. Every PSN game i buy i keep stored on my PS3 harddrive and i can copy over to any PSP i want. If i had 20 psp's i would only have to buy 1 game and not have to buy 20 different copies. If you dont want to keep it on your harddrive then you can still download it 5 more times.

How is that anti consumer? If i bought a game i wanted to play with my brother on UMD id have to buy 2 umds. instead i can buy 1 digital copy. Also gamers are usually cheaper on the PSN because you dont have to pay the dudes in the retail stores. That is also good for consumers.

f7897905307d ago

Physical is always better. :D

spacetattoo825307d ago (Edited 5307d ago )

DOWNLOADS ARE COMING. 5 YEARS TOPS..

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heroicjanitor5308d ago

Are they going to cry at everybody when that happens? And why aren't they b*tching at apple for giving download only games? It's not like sony is only selling psp gos, they are still selling psp 3000s

Ju5308d ago

Actually, retail sells PSN coupon cards. I don't understand what's the big deal. You can go out an buy a game coupon (and download the game from PSN with the coupon - code) or you buy an UMD. How is retail loosing here ?

Darkeyes5308d ago

@hero... The only reason there is no backlash for Apple is cause it never had any physical form of medium for it's games/apps. Even if the distributors backlashed, Apple doesn't give sh!t, since it's never going to resort to physical medium to sell it's apps/games.

This backlash is not cause of PSPgo... It's cause the retailers fear that this could ignite the so called 'Digital distribution' future rendering middle party useless and jobless....

I usually support Sony for it's consoles, but they should have given a UMD slot in the Go as well along with the choice to buy digital games..

But one thing this proves is that M$ so called dream of ditching DVDs and going entirely digital for the next Xbox is really going to be protested against..... Guess they eventually WILL have to fall on to Blu-Ray.

MiloGarret5307d ago (Edited 5307d ago )

Because they don't get the same amount of profit from selling coupons as they do from selling umd's, maybe? (I'm asking, I don't actually know)

OR, more likely: because not all pspgo-owners are 14 year old kids and have their own credit card? hence making coupons, and retailers, unnecessary...

EDIT: I don't mean Sony's behaviour is wrong though, I actually think its quite clever, they're eliminating the middle-hand, more power to Sony. Too bad for consumers though.

Ju5307d ago

Retail certainly looses a portion to people directly buying from the PSN. But the coupons should make it much easier for retail. Nothing to worry about (can't break), reduces shelf space (=cheaper in on the floor), etc. So, yeah, the loose a bit there, and win a bit otho. Also, I would expect Sony to give them a somewhat higher margin on the cards (less costs compared to disks - but here I am the optimist. Its hard business, maybe not). All in all, retail has nothing to complain about. If so, I can understand second hand stores. They are hit hard.

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McLuvn5308d ago

Have no problem selling Ipods or other Mp3 players though.

Persistantthug5308d ago

Because the majority of the world is not set up for ultra fast broadband yet and that won't happen for some time to come.

Sarcasm5308d ago

True that.

This whole PSPgo thing is so overblown it's ridiculous.

lamerzard5308d ago

What's this? Secondhand games are unethical? Since when?

Have they been to a library lately? Full of games.

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Top 10 Xbox 360 Games That Need to be Backward Compatible

Kevin F. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "Many of the best Xbox 360 games are playable on the Xbox One and Series X|S consoles. Some even with some enhanced visuals and performance. Unfortunately, not every game from the Xbox 360 library has received this glorious feat of being able to be played on more modern Microsoft consoles."

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Max Payne 3 needs to be on that list.

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autobotdan1031d ago

The Spider-man games will never happen. The xbox 360 Marvel Ultimate Alliance games have a better chance of happening than Spider-man titles but won't happen. The Xbox One Ultimate Alliance games delisted years ago

Vits1031d ago

Yeah... you can totally forget about those entries that got delisted because of licensing issues. Those are not happening.

MetalProxy1030d ago

Wait everything isn’t BC? You guys act like it is lol

porkChop1030d ago

Almost all of the games people want to play are BC, and that's a hell of a lot better than having none available.

ApocalypseShadow1030d ago (Edited 1030d ago )

Almost all the games people want to play? Not true. Majority picks screw over the minority who have games collecting dust. Metal is right. Fans make it seem that it's all. 39/997 games from OG Xbox is NOT all. 568/2154 from 360 is NOT all. But you guys play it up like it is.

And from my count, there are 4,000+ PS4 BC games on PS5 that I see. And almost every VR game. Series X has no Kinect games or Kinect 2. But you played that up too. No more dancing.

As for the article, some of the BC games make sense. The others with Spider-Man aren't happening.

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God of War 3, The Last of Us, Army of Two, Skate 2 and more showcased running on the PC via RPCS3

The team behind the best Playstation 3 emulator, RPCS3, has shared a new video showing some major graphical improvements that has implemented in the latest version of the emulator. As such, the team showed God of War 3, The Last of Us, Army of Two, Skate 2 and more games running on the emulator.

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Razzer2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

For pirates. I love running PS2 games on my PC. I can run them directly from the *real* disc. That is not an option for PS3 emulation. Thus....the problem. Endorse this and you endorse piracy. Period.

AmstradAmiga2201d ago

Well, Sony could have kept backward compatibility and not locked it behind a GaaS pay wall.

Outside_ofthe_Box2201d ago

Emulation is going to happen regardless if BC exists or not lol

Razzer2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

"Well, Sony could have kept backward compatibility and not locked it behind a GaaS pay wall. "

Right....cuz that halted Xbox 360 piracy in its tracks? Oh....wait.

bigmalky2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

How about for people who own the discs and a broken console?

Creating backup copies to play games that you own on an emulator of a console you have, and working or broken, is pretty much legal.

Yes, there will always be pirates, but there are some people who like to go back to their old games without having to buy a second hand console that may or may not work.

Emulation is a great idea, especially if you have already spent a fortune on the items you own, but cannot use.

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starchild2201d ago

Most people would just rip the disc to their hard drive anyway. There's nothing wrong with PS3 emulation and it doesn't equate to piracy.

Razzer2201d ago

"Most people would just rip the disc to their hard drive anyway."

Oh come on. Most people go find the bit torrent.

cj1pate1012200d ago

Mr by the law, considering I owned a original ps3 and if I download the games I owned whats the big deal.

MadLad2200d ago

Offer your games on PC, and then less of this will happen.
And that's not even speaking of the visual and performance difference.

Christopher2200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

***Well, Sony could have kept backward compatibility and not locked it behind a GaaS pay wall.***

They actually couldn't. They shot themselves in the foot in that regard by going the route of the cell architecture. It requires a much better cpu than current generation consoles have to emulate and run.

Fact is that these games are running poorly on PC now and likely will for another two+years.

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Thomaticus2201d ago

I need to build a PC that can at least play PS2 games. I have a working PS3 and I don't mind using it to play PS3 games.... but since Sony doesn't support BC anymore.... you have no choice. The PS4 pro, should allow emulation for PS1 and PS2 games....

Guyfamily9992201d ago

The PS4 actually does emulate PS2 games in HD. It's just not universal (it's only a select few games) and you can't actually use your discs, you have to pay a bunch for digital versions. At that point just use a PC.

I'd love if the PS5 was fully backwards compatible (PS4 games natively as a PS4 Pro, PS 1-3 via emulation).

Thomaticus2201d ago

Someone made a video saying that PS4 has software emulation built in according to hackers that were able to hack an older firmware and enable the ability.

found the video: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

PUBG2201d ago

I'd like to se Sony do this on their own, and come out with a proper digital marketplace on PC. Consoles will always be around in some form, but PC is the future.

ziggurcat2201d ago

there's a better method here:

it's called buying a dirt-cheap PS3, and playing the games natively on the console.

conanlifts2201d ago

I would say the better method would be to copy MS on the X. Backwards compatibility with increased resolution and frame rate for no extra cost. The pro could do this. Or even just B/C on a ps4 without having to pay anything.

Bladesfist2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

How is that better? You spend money on a console that has a limited lifetime and will only play the games as they were made instead of not spending money and just emulating the games at resolutions and frame rates that will only get better over time, better yet, It will last for as long as the software is executable. Which will be much longer than the lifespan of any hardware.

It might be the best way to play the games if you have to play them right now but I imagine that people that have held out for this long don't mind waiting a little longer. If you're buying used, morals don't come into the question as no money is going to Sony or the developers either way.

ziggurcat2201d ago

"How is that better?"

you're playing the games natively on the console.

"You spend money on a console that has a limited lifetime and will only play the games as they were made instead of not spending money and just emulating the games..."

heaven forbid that you spend money on something instead of stealing...

BVFTW2201d ago

Buying the game and playing it on an emulator is not stealing, there are people playing pirate copies of games on a hacked PS3 (real hardware) right now, as well as stolen discs, morals are up to the individual and not the format/hardware.

Bladesfist2200d ago

@BVFTW I agree, I own three of these games but don't have access to a working PS3. I would love to be able to play them again without shelling out any more money.

BVFTW2199d ago (Edited 2199d ago )

I know, Bladesfist XD my PS3 is on it's last legs and I hav'ent even played half of my backlog yet! I've a lot of retro games as well and sometimes I play one of my oldies in the office through emulation, it's a great advantage not having to haul my old consoles and a crtv with me if I'm just looking for one quick fix with one game.

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It Takes One Game to Kill a Franchise

We all have game franchises we love so much that we don't care what others
think. Then there are games that the majority just agree shouldn't exist.
Sometimes it just takes one of these to kill our most beloved series.

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Hoffmann2823d ago (Edited 2823d ago )

It Takes One Game to Kill a Franchise

Street Fighter V and SoulCalibur V come to mind.

naruga2821d ago (Edited 2821d ago )

^^ i agree .....i also damn totally agree with Halo 2 ...if it wasnt the huge fanbase behind the first one and the huge potential of the franchise would be a dead IP ...HALO CE for me is still an unsurpassed FPS but HALO 2 completely trashed the series to below mediocrity quality levels...i also partly agree with MGS2 ...it had ridiculously convoluted and gibberishy plot considering what masterpiece MGS1 was ...but it narrowly escaped...also RE 4 could be considered such type of game ...RE was doomed after that

darthv722821d ago (Edited 2821d ago )

Interesting that you would pick Halo 2 over 4 or 5. I have yet to play 5 but as for the other 4, not one of them has disappointed me in terms of story or play mechanics. Halo 1 is a classic and 2 improved on everything while being a cliffhanger and then 3 having the dual story lines was a nice way to bring things to a close (of that trilogy).

4 was an interesting take on trying to create a new story where it had initially ended. The demand of knowing what was going to happen next for MC was what prompted them to come up with the new trilogy. I hope 6 will bring all things to a proper close... for now.

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BrianOBlivion2821d ago

Halo 2 was better than 1 in every way.

MoveTheGlow2821d ago

Dang it, fighting games. Get your single-player content together.

blackblades2821d ago

More like it takes one guy or team to kill a franchise. Its not the game fault it's the person behide it. Same with movies.

xtheblackparade2821d ago

True, and it depends on what the devs learn from the experience whether or not the franchise can make a comeback. Or even make it's first "comeback". Like with Nier. Nobody cared about the first one, but it's hype all around for the sequel :p

StormLegend2821d ago

This is very true, many franchises have dealt with this.

SaveFerris2821d ago

Sometimes a game can kill a franchise even before it starts, if it doesn't perform as well as expected. The Order 1886 is an example of this.

USMC_POLICE2821d ago

That universe though, I hope it gets a great sequel.

SaveFerris2821d ago

Yeah. I hope Sony will one day look to revive it.

akurtz2821d ago

it cant be dead if there wasnt news about the franchise beijg cancelled

USMC_POLICE2821d ago

I want to say socom with socom 4 as it was by far the worst but confrontation had its issues also. However compared to socom 4 confrontation was amazing. Still not socom 2 but it worked.

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