Videogameszone checked the graphics between the PS3 and Xbox 360 version of Operation Flashpoint 2.
'KillZone 2' still looks better than every Console Game out there!!! ;-P
too bad it doesn't play as good and as much as most other games
but but but Killzone 2, what about killzone 2, ha ha ha ha, Killzone 2 took 5 years and millions upon millions of dollars and they've still taken a loss on it due to poor sales and graphics are good, not great and game play is just ok, nothing better, I mean c'mon gears 1 even looks better than killzone 2. RIP killzone 2.
but... but.. but... gears of war best looking console game eveer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
play these games next to eachother and you'll see killzone doesn't look that much better than gears. in fact graphics are the only thing it does better. and in killzone you never leave the same grey scenery. at least gears 2 has some originality in the level design.
you obviously aint played both so just shut up, everything in killzone looks better, and its based in helghan so obviously everything looks grey n dull. but uncharted 2 > Killzone > Other PS3 Exclusives > Multiplatform Games > 360 Exclusives fact
2stupid4u? :) i have played both, and explain to me this: Why did everyone stop playing your "halo killer" after 2 weeks? Why does hardly anyone buy your "AAA" games?
i wanna see Uncharted 2 and Gears of Wars 2 comparisions... wait that won't be fair. let's do Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and Gears of War 2 screen comparision. q:
And, what exactly does that have to do with the article?
i think he just wanna point out that, maybe the 360 got the edge on multiplatform titles. but that doesnt mean the ps3 cant do graphics thats on par or better than the multiplats
...When they were putting the textures in the PS3 version? Looks like crap. And the water looks like sand on both of them. This game has some crappy graphics.
meh after playing killzone2 and uncharted2 i dont even care about multiplats on the PS3 lol i even started to hate some old PS3 games just because they dont look like killzone2 i still have/love all my consoles ( PS3/360/Wii and an old gaming PC )
lol.. i feel the same. sony has spoilt us all... bad sony. bad. q: EDIT: @MSpence516: i was just trying to change the subject. aren't we done with comparing PS3/360 screens from 3rd party devs. it doesn't prove that PS3 can't pull better graphics. all it proves is that the devs didn't do a proper job. that's all. @XXXCouture: yup you're right. and here's a bubble. q:
The PC version is better than both. And to be honest, this game is "meh".
So pissed I didn't wait for the 360 version to be back in stock, is there any thing that's better than the 360 version on the Ps3 one? Other than free online, I have live anyway so the free doesn't make a differance for about a month when my gold runs out
Here's an article that shows how Drake's Fortune looks better than Gears of War 2. http://kineticninja.blogspo... On topic: The 360 version is clearly superior. Lazy, lazy developers.
Can you all just talk about operation flashpoint? Stop spamming about Uncharted2. We all know that ps3 can handle "stunning graphics", but the fact is that a lot of developers still don't have any respect for that console and gamers on it.
thanks mate! and here's a bubble! q: and yeah.. Codemasters WTH???
Nah lets pit to heavy hitters Splinter Cell Conviction vs Uncharted 2. NOW that would be an interesting comparison. BY the way, how freaking awesome is Uncharted 2? Man i am loving every second of it, the only thing that is a bit of a let down is that the trophies are some what the same as with Uncharted.
@nix leave alone GeOW an UC2, this is OP: DR I have enough with people comparing it vs COD... and certainly I have enough with comparisons, If One Game looks BETTER in one console than another, It's a Dev fault not a Hardware issue
that the cell cant run the same code as xbox 360. Special care needs to be given so it can get results like uncharted 2.
Don't be tard! You wanna compare the graphics of a system that was rushed to one that took it's time. Then you wanna compare a game that just came out to one that is running on an old engine. Take to the open zone.
should off just stay with racing games which they are good at! does Clive Barker's Jericho rings any bell? anyone?
what do you mean, clive barkers jericho was a good game
Is a T T T T T Turd
xbox live dead?
no matter what console its better on i am very let down by this game 4vs4 huge scale maps pff next time stay with the pc code master
the ps3 and xbox pics are not even at equal scenes of the game...so how can this be a side by side comparison..xbox pics are with sun and ps3 pics are not..anyway who cares about this game
They not even look same. Simples
just go this on the pc ;-) 39usd on steam. poor consoles boys paying taxes micro and sony lol and getting a poor copy in the end :P my older rig with a 3yr old g8800 can play this game at maxed out settings. console games prices are rediculous imo, overall it makes console gaming an inferior and costly affair.
why would you use steam and give up your ownership of the title? all steam achieves is blocking you from selling, lending, trading or even giving away for free games that you purchase. get a retail copy steam sucks.
i generally dont sell, lend games that i buy once. also i like it that i dont have a physical copy to maintain, dont have space for old boxes. also i have a very good gaming laptop, has a 260gtx on it. i tend to to travel alot so I like the fact all my games are with me no matter where i go.
@ champ21 that's why you get a .exe fix that bypasses the restrictive Orwellian DRM or create an iso so you can play your games anywhere without the disc + don't you have to be connected to the net to use steam titles? most people i know lend their games between each other, especially the the ones that are completed in a couple of days that are not worth the extortionate £40+ price tag, licensing is not just about selling, its to stop lending & trading! the media industry over the last few months slating game store for overcharging second hand titles is their hope of consumer acceptance, stick one to the stores. do you see the gaming industry crumbling due to no funds or see them posting increased profit year on year that has surpassed the music industry! try to concentrate more than the media industries twitter 10 word sound bytes eh!
This is disappointing. I bought the PS3 version because out of the reviews that I've read, none of them talked about a difference in graphical quality. I'm not bothered if the differences were minimal, but this is rather huge. I tend to buy multiplats for the PS3 unless there's a big problem with it. This is a pretty big problem in my opinion, and shame on the devs for making such a crappy port.
Read more reviews, and do not read those from "official playstation magazine". :(
But you have to watch out for developers who aren't willing to even TEST the PS3 version (After seeing this, I can't believe that they might have even played it). In those occasions of a turd of a port, I'll get the 360 version (And be disappointed, because I'm not getting the multiplayer portion as I don't pay for P2P servers).
Either Way, PS3 or 360 owner, its a great game. To take what works best on the PC and make it Play well on a console, I've got to give a Hats off to codemasters. If you liked the original Ghost Recon (and your not a PC gamer) its worth it. Damn hard on normal, which BTW is its lowest level. Forget the graphics (even the worst port looks decent for a open world) but dont forget a single bullet means something.
It is a real shame. They put zero effort in using the PS3's strength (any more ?). That is open world. Use the damn harddisk. Its a straight PC port. I am pretty disappointed by Codemasters so "great" "Ego" engine. BS. Its a PC engine made to work on a console. WTH.
Really pissed aswell, I didn't think there would be that big a differance, F**k Codemaster's to hell http://www.videogameszone.d... how can they f**k up so much
"Either Way, PS3 or 360 owner, its a great game." Only if you play with reals buddies and no AI. http://kotaku.com/5374883/o...
Only played Campaign Co-Op with a friend... So far... I'm having fun though. Maybe its time for another Ghost recon...
it has nothing to do with a HD. The Cell is dramatically different than normal PC CPUs and the 360's CPU, and the PS3 has more RAM constraints than the other systems. In an open world game, the textures are going to suffer because of that. There's just too much visual data to stick in the Ram to not be compressed further. It has nothing to do with being lazy either. Nobody in their right mind will rewrite a whole engine to get a game to look only marginally better than it already does without rewriting it.
The Lazy One Lets not use old school theories regarding the cell. "PS3 has more RAM constraints" Than what ? a PC.. Yes... a 360 No. The term "broadband engine' is given to the cell because thats what it does best. Streaming.... The reason 256Mb XDR ram is in the machine. On this gen consoles, K2, UC1 and I believe UC2 (havent played it yet) ,no load times, no install, and may I say , no competition.
Dude. Whether or not the cell is powerful is a non-issue. The fact of the matter is that it is drastically different from an average PC CPU. You'd still have to rewrite a lot of code for marginal gain to get it working as well on the cell. Regardless of power. You can have the most powerful engine in the world (CPU), but if it's in a car and you're making a boat you'll still have to do a lot of work to harness it. And the memory is drastically different on both. Having split memory hurts the PS3 in this case. In a game optimized for the PS3, it's not a huge issue, but again the difference in architecture from traditional PC models hurts it. It has nothing to do with being lazy, it has to do with sony departing too greatly from the largest development platforms in their hardware architecture. That's why there's such a large difference between engines designed solely for the PS3 and engines designed to be multi-platform or ported from a PC centric engine.
It is dramatically different that's why the engine needs to be designed dramatically different to take advantage of it. Forget the memory as such. See it as a cache, a fast streaming buffer. Nothing else. Then design data in a way they can be swapped in and out as fast as possible. Use the HDD to virtualize the mem, with a static layout to reduce seek speeds. All PC engines use static memory partitioning, system mem, texture buffers, back/front buffers etc. A streaming architecture is significant different. Without that taken into account, every multi platform game will always perform better on a PC centric architecture (the 360 can do back buffer optimization to some extend through its EDRAM, but this doesn't really change how the engine works). Also, vertex reduction at the start of the render pipeline would require pre-processing of visual data (like a look ahead cache) and optimize geometry to allow the RSX to process less data. All those could be used to squeeze way more out of the PS3 (and is used already in exclusive titles). I would like to see the SPU benchmark on the EGO engine. I can't believe its full optimized for the CELL (and possibly will never be). I'm not saying creating a application layer on top of such an engine - which would perform well on a discrete chipsets (like PC/360) and the PS3 is easy (or even possible). I would just wish someone would bother about that at some point...
I get your point, but nobody will because you can get passable results without doing very much work at all. It's unfortunate, but they are running a business. Hopefully a third party engine developer like Epic can do something towards creating the separate back ends needed with similar front ends, but there really isn't any midground yet. When the difference is to the point where you'd really only notice if you were playing both games side by side, it isn't that huge a deal. I doubt anyone will sit there looking at the ground textures for very long.
Well, Epic did a decent job with the Unreal Engine, yet, ONLY Batman A.A. came out good on both consoles (thank you Eidos). The same engine has been used by quite a few different developers so far, yet, only one managed to make a game that look great on both consoles. End results, it's even selling more on the PS3 (with a lower install base!!!). It does pay to polish a multi console game. But so far, it seem like most devs don't bother. We are not even talking about rewriting a whole game engine here. The SAME unreal engine version had been used in a few previous games before. Eidos just did more polishing and they got more sales out of it to prove it's worth it. Sadly, it does seem like many devs do not understand this concept. It should even be easier to polish a game with your OWN engine, not just a third party engine....
OF:DR runs better on a 2007 pc. (mines) Shame on you, codemasters.
my friend had this for a day and returned it the next,total crap he said it was,his quote if you want to wait an hour to shoot some one this is your game.i was going to get it is it that bad?,playing the beta in mag i thought this may be on a similar line seems i,m wrong,mags great by the way.
who gives which has the better graphics why not concentrate on gameplay. the shock & awe of amazing visuals only last for a limited time but amazing gameplay resides in the hall of fame alongside the likes of half life source which isnt the most visually stunning title. unfortunately for us PC gamers the industry revolves around these dam consoles & standards are dropping fast this game is just another so, so title that has used a groundbreaking game title to sell copies. Forget this commercial rubbish & go get ArmA: Armed Assault
"amazing visuals only last for a limited time but amazing gameplay resides in the hall of fame" well... i heard Uncharted 2 does everything. and it comes with a great story too. EDIT: @GameOn: i was simply pointing out things that pphoenix had made. UC2 doesn't do women also... so your point?
"Standards dropping fast" What, because of consoles ? That thing is so much not optimized for consoles. What are you complaining about. Its a PC game made work on a console (maybe both sides loose because of it). If you want to see how an open world game can match a PC version, go check FarCry 2 (no matter what you think about the game). But its conversion in both direction (and Ubi's Tunia engine) points fingers at Codemasters "Ego".
Oh, I didn't know Uncharted 2 did battle sim...
i agree that titles are usually much better & cheaper on the PC but will disagree with you about steam. steam destroys your right to re-sell, trade, lend to a friend or even give away for free tittles you legally purchase. get a retail box that has value not a digital copy that takes away your rights. btw this is not operation flashpoit, codemasters brought the rights & they have dumbed the game down from the once great title for the console generation. imho go get ArmA: Armed Assault, from the same makers as the original flashpoint.
I got it for the PC, too. But I still would rather play it on the PS3 (better multiplayer on PSN) and I hate the 360 controller (and no, I don't play click-n-kill on the PC). So, seeing those shots leaves me rather disappointed. I might get the PS3 version later, when its down to $19.99 Edit: I know I can get a DS3 working on the PC. But I have to map keystrokes to buttons and that simply does not work well. Most PC games support the 360 controller directly. PSN network: I do have an account to play online. How many accounts do they expect me to create just to play with some friends online on a PC ? One for Steam, one for Live! one for - uh - codemasters ?
you could get the ps3 controller to work with the pc. there are drivers out for it now. give that a try imo. missed the point about the psn network.. also playing with a ps3 controller would get ya killed on the pc multiplayer.
Yeah but then again, with your rig you cant play games such as Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3 and Collection, FF13, Splinter Cell Conviction,Demon Souls.....get my drift.........yeah you stand their saying that you feel sorry for us and yet it is us that feel sorry for you. Man its great to be a multi-plat gamer. I am a console and PC gamer!
really mature, I have a GeForce 9600GT and I don't saying crap like you do, Why you want to compare a PC with consoles this article has nothing to do with the PC version A PC fanboy feeding Consoles Fanboys, shame
umm.. whats so crap about saying i bought the game at 39usd :P and it performs better then the more costlier version.. @lonewolf. thats why you own a ps3.. for its exclusives.. but you dont go on paying sony taxes for every other multiplatform out there :) not until they correct their pricing atleast.
im not suprised the 360 version looks better because the game is mainly a pc game and pc games port easier to 360. the ps3 is much better graphics wise when its the main platform or as an exclusive though. either way its only graphics so as long as the game is fun and fps is stable who cares
Wow, glad I rented the 360 version and not the PS3 version. Even then, I don't like the game very much.
I just rented it too i got to the hill top blew something up then went down the beach and said I had enough. I played mag last night unbelievable action compared to this game. I played mag till the servers went down. That will be my action fps game.
you have to be joking!!how can you compare MAG to FLASHPOINT?! there not even in the same categorie! MAG is an arcade game and FLASPOINT is a simulator! WOW its like comparing FORZA 3 to MIDNIGHT CLUD L.A. !! by the way FLASHPOINT is an amazing game when you know how to play it!
What are you guys talking about? The PS3 version looks far better! Look at the amount of jaggies on the 360 version compared to the PS3. Take a look at how dark the 360 version is too, the screenshot with the sword quite obviously demonstrates this to us.
How can you honestly think that.
NO! I wish they have at least the same quality but no, codemasters sucks really bad, honestly I don't understand how you get agrees, try to be more objective and don't accept this crap
Butthurt. Why have good gameplay, when you can have better graphics! Buying it for the Trey.
i just cant believe that we're 3-4 years into this generation an you guys still think the PS3 is SUPERIOR to the 360. they both have their strength an weaknesses.an I think their even with both having a certain edge. you guys gotta realize sony HAD to build games to show off its system because for 1 they carried the higher price an they kinda had to show a reason WHY the price was higher, plus they talked all the crap about how more powerful there system is OVER the 360, so it was sony that had to PROVE their worth. for the 360 all MS had to do was put of great games because they didnt scream from the hill top about how super duper powerful an how they can rival movie studios like sony did, plus they didnt show FAKE VIDEO like sony did either so the expectation werent as high. when a game is built from the ground up on the PS3 then ported to the 360 there 99% identical but when their built from the ground up on the 360 the PS3 version struggles, its gotten better as of later but the PS3 versions still arent as good most of the time. last gen every game was built for the Ps2 then ported to the xbox 1 an the games ALWAYS looked better on the xbox, so why isnt this the case with the PS3. i know im gonna get hated on about this but who cares, plus im going to get Uncharted 2 today.!! http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://n4g.com/ViewComVideo...