Blu-ray launch delayed in Europe

HD-DVD may have a slight edge in the format battle for next-generation DVD players, with the Blu-ray camp saying they're not yet ready for Europe. The on-again, off-again story of advanced optical-disc recording will keep consumers on tenterhooks yet again this autumn, with manufacturers in the Blu-ray camp still not ready to introduce their movie-players to the huge European market.

Pioneer, one of the stalwarts of the Blu-ray camp, admitted this week it would not be ready to launch the players by the time of the Sept. 1 to Sept. 6 trade fair IFA in Berlin, the principal European consumer electronics show.

[Cyclonus]

I wonder when we'll hear: "PS3 Launch Delayed Worldwide"

Blu-Ray is having problems across the board...the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive in it...do the math.

[G_CodeMonkey]

Sony has bitten it so hard with their missteps that they will not delay past the Nov date, unless they have too many bugs. They will NOT miss the Christmas/holiday season. Only if their only option was to ship bricks would they delay it, even if they lose face with their own "red ring of death". gCM

[TheXgamerLive]

As we all still well know, the ps3 is ridden with problems still 2 being the cell isnt a game processor and still is giving terrible yields and most importantly combined with the rsx it's just bottlenecking on most every game that's being played, that's why still today we dont see "ANY" games being played or demo'd "ANYWHERE" for the supposedly soon to be released ps3. It's either on a PC or an (XBOX 360) or is just CGI so until they can play games on it w/o the bottlenecking there wont be a system release. I still will mention last march's fiasco with sony/konami playing MGS4 on an actual and I repeat hand picked ps3 dev. and it bottlenecked every few frames and the guy did nothing but appologize for it and made excusses for it. That video has since disappeared I believe and what a surprise. If anyone still see's it's available to watch please put up a link to it. It was great to see, lol.

Assassins creed on XBOX 360 and PC only for it's release. ps3 still cant handle it.

[kingboy]

Even if its not delayed only the ps3 can give it life end of story ..c u on november

[ACE]

shame ps3 will have a waterd down beta ray in it dont get ur hopes up mate cos its gona be the disapointment of the decade :)

[COVER GIRL]

I wonder if we will ever know the real mess Sony and friends are in right now on the inside, they must be running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

[TheMART]

How is it possible that this would be out in Japan already for 3 years? I read that somewhere.

Anyhow, visuals on HD-DVD are better and that format also just included 1080p.

So no need to wait for BetaBluRay. HD-DVD stand alone is 500 dollars/euro's, BetaBR twice as much... OMG

ANd the HD-DVD add on I think is going to launch for 100 or max 150 dollars/euro's. Just to kick Sony extra hard with the PSZero

[DG]

World hunger and our green gas emittions will forever end...so long as we can harvest the negative energy coming out of The Mart's mouth or keyboard.

KUMBAYA...KUMBAYA....CAN you FEEL THE HATE?

[THELANDSOFSAND]

actually you would do better trying to capture the overwhelmingly negative energy coming from the PS3!

[joemutt]

Just tell us when its ready. In my line of work, I never tell a customer a certain time or date, I know something could come up and I would look bad. I tell them it will be ready when its ready.

These big companies should learn from the ethics of the real "hardworking" man.

[Mikey_Gee]

CRAPPY GAMES .... tisk tisk .... not sure whay you consider a NON-Crappy game, but 360 has some very nice games. I hope the PS3 does well ... I want one ... but to bash the 360 "JUST BECAUSE" .... is really kind of silly.

[DG]

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[Schmitty07]

HDDVD and Blu-Ray are obsolete right now. I can't see either one of them start to pick up. Most people (including me) do not really care that we can now watch our movies in 1080p or 720p. Oh wait, I don't even have an HDTV yet! Maybe in 5-7 years it will start to pickup, but definently not now.

[Cyclonus]

Which is why Microsoft had the foresight not to FORCE HD-DVD on consumers looking for a GAMES MACHINE; they're making it an OPTION, and an affordable one.

[joemutt]

You will be seriously dissapointed with your PS3 until about 2008.

All these crappy games the 360 has will be ported over to the PS3, and they will magically be great games!

I have a 360 and everytime I hear someone saying how bad the games are, I laugh. I cant keep up with the games. I just bought Oblivion last week. Just finished GRAW last week.

And for people like aricha who keep saying "why arent you playing your 360 then? If its so good?" Well, alot of us work, and I cant really bring it to work with me, I can read about gaming on the net, which is what we do while we wait for 5:00, so we can go play 360.

[joemutt]

I am at home enjoying Next-gen gaming in High-def, unless the yard needs mowing.

[heihoosilver]

it´s marketing.They delay again so betabluray don´t came out till November when they launch crap,delaystation so people buy delaystation insted of betablueray players, people will say,look ps3 is betablueray and is cheaper, i will buy one instead of betablueray. It´s how $ony plans to win HD DVD war.It´s all marketing.

[heihoosilver]

i know that we didn´t bash ps3 and all, but when sonyfans stop bash xbox fans and xbox i start treat sony fans with respect if they respect all xbox fans and xbox.

[DG]

Because all fanboys are idiots!

[heihoosilver]

i know that we shouldn´t bash ps3 and all, but when sonyfans stop bash xbox fans and xbox i start treat sony fans with respect if they respect all xbox fans and xbox.

[ACE]

sony droids are gold fish mate they have a six second memmory, so they keep forgetting how often sony fuk them up the @rse lol :)

sorry dude couldnt help my self ......

[DG]

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[heihoosilver]

in my country we used to say: he eats were he likes.

[kingboy]

if the 360 really rocked ur world u wouldn`t frequent ps3 news making useless comments which by the way wouldn`t stop me from gettin a ps3..why do u fear that much.. and the truth is without us u will be bored

[JIN KAZAMA]

TheFart, you're just a complete idiot and a joke. Also, very jealous that you are broke and cant afford the PS3.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i think you will find that intelligence, not jealously, keeps the mart from wanting a PS3.

you, however, jin are a brainwashed fanboy that would support the PS3 if it was a spray-painted turd with a sony logo on it.
and then delayed.

[JIN KAZAMA]

you're the idiot. Your 360 just broke on you a few days ago, and you were posting all your crying about how sad you are that your 360 is broke. You of all people should be pissed at MS. They were amking you pay 128 dollars to fix it.
Still, remember, OverG Fighters, read the reviews, a 5.9 out of ten. this is comming out for your so-called next-gen console, haaha. And you are comparing the launch games of the PS3 and saying its n64 graphics, please. Motorstorm looks better and better, much better than that horrible game grand offRaod ralley or whatevr the name is. Heavenly Sword, looks heavenly, Resistence, looks awesome. WAIT, God Of War 2, looks better than 99% of your crappy 360 games. You guys bought a 400 dollar machine, and the PS2's God of War 2 looks just as good as your 360 games, and better that most of them. HAhah, you losers are too much.

[Schmitty07]

I bet I could go to gamespot and find a lot of games on the PS2 that have 5.9 and LOWER, so you should think before you talk you fanboy! Remember there is more to life than Sony and the PS3

[TheMART]

Jin I think you are Japanese, those guys are as strange as you even wanting a PS64 when they got their @ss ripped up by barbie Ken @ssmate with all the lies in the past.

The games you mention, Motorstorm COME ON that looks like a PS2 game with those dull sparks. WHERE HAS THE CGI FOOTAGE GONE FROM E3 2005? Now answer that one!

And you never played a 360 that's for sure. Even the original xbox beated the hell out of the PS2. The 360 eats it for lunch. Any time.

The PSZero is an overpriced BetaBluRay player. And The Land of Sand is right. Anyone with brains won't choose the PS3.

Anyone still following Sony think of this:

Sony is always overpromising (remember 2 x HDMI, CGI footage Killzone 2/Motorstorm, Emotion Engine and the list goes on)

and underdelivering!

Remember that when you're in front of the 360 also in shops. It'll save you 200 dollars/Euro's and a lot of crying over your own personal emotion engine caused by Sony's lies

[FamoAmo]

Jin- The 360 game line up blows Sony's sequal shi! out the water. No moe GTA and in comes Saints Row!! What PS3 game looks even remotely like GOW or Lost Planet or pREY? I haven't seen 1... Tekken-lol what a dissapointment. Have fun with RIDGE RACER ON release day...lol I'll be playing Saints Row, GOW and just too many to name.lol

[JIN KAZAMA]

Let me tell you what a brainwashed FANOBOY you are, you are defending your BROKEN 360. It broke on you, after 6 months. Thats how brainwashed you are. You are the most idiotic person here. You are literally a complete fool, that even though you got a piece of crap hardware, which broke on you after 6 months, you are still defending it. Come on, arent you tired of being a blind fanboy.

[TheMART]

How many PS2 DVD players broke down? THe 12 year old son of my sister has a collection games he can't play anymore. My own PS2 is in the closet doing nothing, gives constant problems playing games. Many of my friends also have a drive that won't run games anymore.

Where was the emotion engine on the PS2?

Where is the 2 x HDMI, the great CGI footage of Motorstorm and Killzone 2 has gone?

Let me tell you that all Sony fanboys are more brainwashed then any 360 fan. You are defending pure lies. And I can't get it. Land of Sand just got unlucky. I hope all of you get that really bad Cell cpu with only 10 to 20% succesfactor. The cores will break down from 7 to 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... and Sony says: nope, no return, it still works, doesn't it?

That's Sony there you go. Have it for 600 Dollars

The PS64 has sh*tty games. The 360 launch line up was better for sure.

And the best thing is. It's only going to matter what games there are this Christmas.
Nothing touches Gears of War, a system seller. Don't forget 160 games for 360. Games sell the system and the PS64 is a disaster.

Prepare for another delay

[ironwolf]

Just ran across info that the PS3 is not delayed because of BluRay. The BluRay is delayed because the PS3 line is absorbing all available laser diodes. However, this is from a source of unknown reliability.

[Mikey_Gee]

AND ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT NOTICED YET.

Many topics on this site are "CROSSED" topics. So for example, I am NOT visiting the PS3 area of this site, HOWEVER ... this topic

"Blu-ray launch delayed in Europe" is accessable throught the PS3 side of things as well as the XBOX360 side of things.

THE SAME ARTICLE WITH THE SAME COMMENTS are viewable and accessable from BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.

So if the topic is indeed what this one is "A CROSS-OVER TOPIC" you can see / read / and comment from either the PS3 section "OR the 360 section ..... it does not mean that 360 fans are in the PS3 area or Visa-Versa.

some are TRIPLE CROSS-OVER (PC/PS3/360)

I can't believe some of you still did not realize this.

SO stop with the "Why come here and bash if your not a fan and stick to your own console section" CRAP !!

"I AM NOW IN THE 360 SECTION" ...

Keep watching below for the big surprise (smell the sarcasm)

[JIN KAZAMA]

read this "if the 360 really rocked ur world u wouldn`t frequent ps3 news making useless comments" where does it say, this particular article. Read it carefully, think about it, and then comment on it.

[TheMART]

wrong place, wrong time

[Mikey_Gee]

** POOF **

Only a few clicks and VOILA !!!

Now I am in the PS3 section, but guess what .... my comment will also seen if you visit this topic from the 360 site.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

PS3 fans are dumb as dirt...

[achira]

you should be calm, your intelligence does not surpace the intelligence of bread.

[Mikey_Gee]

Don't try and pretend you didn't make the mistake.
Come on bro ........... :-)
Rather than being so defensive, try having a laugh from time to time.
This is not meant to bash, just inform.
And if you read mine, I clearly stated I used this article as an EXAMPLE.

I love my 360, and look foward to my PS3 ... I like to come to these sites for INFORMATION ... not because I hate my 360 and don't want to play it. Anyone who can't pull themselves away from their console for a bit need some SERIOUS HELP.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

How many parents are going to buy a 600$ console for their begging kids at christmas.

If PS3 doesn't drop to atleast 400$, Sony will rot and die.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

#23 i was agreeing with you. I hate it; when Sony fanboy's tell me to get out of PS3 land when it's Industry news and even if it wasn't it's people's right to read the news on what they wan't.

[Mikey_Gee]

I know that.

My comment was to #20.1

Sorry for the mix-up

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Lost planet is the most under-rated game in history the game is truly Next-Gen, a real modern day Contra. I just thought i'd say that to anybody that hasn't seen the game video or played the Demo.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

JIN KAZAMA
quit talking about my broken 360 as if MS deliberately broke it! what is your point? I played the hell out of my system, the drive door broke, I was very sad, I spoke to MS and after arguing over paying $129, a manager called me today and offered a full free repair. end of story dipsh1t!

So yet again, I will be playing lovely next-gen games while you sit with your wired controller and play god of war for the millionth time.

when PS3 arrives, after its delays, and after all the shortages, in January 2007, you will pay $600+ for your system with its n64 graphics and half-assed online service. you will probably play god of war from the PS2 on it alot. you will be disappointed, but by then i will be too busy with Gears Of War and Saints Row to notice.

[JIN KAZAMA]

After you get your refurbished 360 back. Haha, what a nut you are, defending your broken 360. Thats horrible. N64 graphics?? Take a look at the launch lineup of the 360. it was truly pathetic. It still is. OverG fighters, hahahha.

[JIN KAZAMA]

After arguing, the manager called you and offered a free repair. haha, you are the dumb dipSh!t idiot. For defending a 400 dollars piece of crap that broke on you after 6 months, yea, real smart there.

[The BS Police]

Look at your pathetic launch titles, Tekken 6, hahahaha.

The XBOX 360 had 21 games at launch day.

N64 graphics, hahahahahahaha.

You should be a stand up comedian JIN(sarcasm).

Go play your imaginary PS3!

I got two free repairs for my XBOX 360 (one of them for the HDD) and I never had to argue once!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

if you thought the 360 launch was bad you are going to cry like a b1tch when you see the PS3 games!

lol

and yet, i find playing Live arcade titles and demos is more fun than anything the PS2 can offer. I guess a broken xbox is better than any sony product!

and yes, over g fighters is not good, what is your point? the reviews should prepare you for motorstorm!

[achira]

this says how crappy the xcrapbox is, two times broken, hahahaha what a joke, its the crappest hardware ever !!! you xbots are so pathetic and idiotic, hahaaa fooooooooooools.

[Ugly American]

I have had a 360 since launch. If it broke right now, I would still want to play my games. They ARE good games in my opinion. My OPINION. The customer service for the 360 has improved greatly over the original Xbox of which I bought three in 6 months.

OverG SUCKS. I am not sure who was hyping it besides the guy at my local GameStop. Gun was a dirty, dirty port. But Tomb Raider is awesome. PDZ, as you make fun of it, is pretty good. COD2 wouldn't run on my old PC and works great on my 360. But wait, doesn't Sony keep saying that the PS3 is just a PC?

I will accept that the PS3 will have some great games. You need to learn to accept that the 360 has some good games, and there are some killer games on the horizon. Games are SUPPOSED to be fun. They aren't supposed to work you up into some Fanboy, Mega-Corporation Frenzy. That goes for a lot of people on ALL sides of the fence.

I have no desire to get angry and worked up over video games. That happens enough when I get my butt kicked on HALO 2. And when I get home, I will be playing some GRAW. I will be just as excited to play some PS3 games when they announce some to be excited about.

[achira]

you are right noone should get angry because of a console. but if you always must read such people like theMart, i want a shutgun.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

JIN KAZAMA: "hi sony, i just bought a PS3, but it just seems like a PS2. the games look the same, the online service is laggy and expensive, there are no good blu-ray movies, the games cost $75 and the console really is over priced"

Sony Customer Service: "Well, dummy, what did you expect, its not like there weren't 20 million articles all over the net saying that"

JIN KAZAMA: "But I love you! Sony, noooooooooooo"

Sony Customer Service: "If you pay us another $200 we may make a good console for you and put all the features we promised in."

JIN KAZAMA: "Okay! God I love you Sony!" uhhhh *orgasms*

Sony Customer Service: "I was only kidding [email protected]! hahaha! Now go play God Of War, its the best we have for PS3."

JIN KAZAMA: *incoherent sobbing about how PS3 is the greatest thing ever* "Mommmy!!!!! they stole my moneeeeey!"

[Cyclonus]

well done.

[OutLaw]

That was some funny reading. You're pretty good when you want to stick it to someone.

Thanks for the laugh.

[TheMART]

That's how I know Jinny boy!

LoS you could go and write a book called:

Barbie Ken's @ssmates fanboys

;)

Also Jin go watch yourself together with the know die hard Freaking Fony Fanboys ssj/lametime/achira/nj and more:

http://www.pwned.nl

or hear yourself at:

http://web.utk.edu/~ascott9...

[achira]

i can only say: pooor full idiot. how can someone like you survive only one day ???

i am sure if you call the ms service, they will know already your name, because your xcrapbox get broked the 100th time.

[kingboy]

ps3 is for grown up folks ..stop [email protected] around when ur not gonna buy the console.lol and nobody cares if u`ve got or like a 360 my friend.You guys jump in here post bullsh*t comments about ps3 this ..that..lol we`v never ever given a [email protected] about ur @ss from day one .who is the [email protected] now all over sony news looking for that little hope?Bored as hell ,come here saying sh*t when u should be on live right now