Michael Pachter thinks that Microsoft can drop the price of the Xbox 360 at anytime.
Yeah, but are they really that desperate? Oh wait, they are.
they need to lower the price, so they can somehow justify releasing hyptal for £200 ;)
It's pretty pathetic to cut a console's price by $300 in 3 years. See: PS3.
Microsoft cut the price twice in less than 3 weeks, yet it did NOT make a major impact on sales in ANY region (not even the US or UK, amazingly). The same goes for the Wii. It cut price by $50 and sales have remained roughly the same. The PS3 is the only console to get a price cut/hardware revision this year and also see a dramatic increase in sales.
Thats the only way it will make a difference.
they r gonna have to cut it again if they want to sell more than the PS3, Wii, and Ps2 in Japan i'm guessing that $50 rebate = FAIL?
Maybe they should try a 2 for 1 sale.
"Microsoft cut the price twice in less than 3 weeks" The fact that they weren't real price cuts for the Xbox 360 shows just how out of touch Pachter is. It is amazing that it has been about 8 years now and there are still people who think Microsoft is willing to throw unlimited piles of cash at the Xbox. One could understand that some people would have believed that back before the Xbox shipped because all they knew was that Microsoft 'had billions' which pretty much meant 'infinite' to them. But in the real world Microsoft's stock has dropped in half since the Xbox was first launched and racked up some 7 billion or so in losses. The E&D Division that the Xbox was part of even posted a loss last quarter and that division includes other profitable products that couldn't offset the 360's losses. Microsoft is having its first ever large scale layoffs and shutting down projects and products throughout the company. It should be of absolutely no surprise that Microsoft wasn't able to drop the price of the 360 and instead had to resort to rebates and the elimination of the Pro model in reaction to the 299 PS3 Slim. Pachter is an idiot. But everyone knew that already.
The Ps3 has had quite a few price drops with no impact until now. Wait until the year is up before you start posting doom and gloom nonsense about the 360. As far as we know the holidays could turn around dramatically.
@Vicodin, if Windows7 doesn't take off like a new jet fighter then MS is in serious trouble. They recently stated they know Office will have to become a free web based product and that leaves them little else on which to hang their multibillion dollar hat. Server software? Please, Linux FTW. Software such as Sharepoint? Hardly. This could actually be a very bad Christmas for MS.
Every price drop takes a console closer to the end of its life cycle. If Microsoft drops the 360's price by 50 bucks, releases Natal and doesn't counter the PS3's momentum then I'd expect them to cut their loses and drop out.
lol @ all the ps3 fanboy comments.
lol PS3 fanboys are still worried to death, its hilarious. PS3 lost, get over it. PS3 is coming out of last place before new consoles launch and I wouldn't doubt Xbox 360 beating PS3 again by this time next year. Moves will still be made, Sony made their move...so for the love of God stop crying.
"lol @ all the ps3 fanboy comments. " At least they're contributing to the topic.
You can have trolls post long essays over the console or company they hate but asking a simple question gets your post deleted, I applaud your excellent work.
I'll buy a 360. Party chat and x-game chat are not worth 50 bucks per IMO.
Then why don't you just miss out this entire gen over 4 bucks a month. Yeah I know free sounds good but thats like me saying I wont buy a PS3 until they add all the features Live has and keeps it free.
After hitting the sweet spot for pricing, cutting down the price will hardly make a huge difference. The price being out of the way, the games are going to do the talking from now on.
"At least they're contributing to the topic." What you consider contributing, anyone with a brain will consider trolling.
rationalize them charging for something no other platform/system does. If party chat and cross game chat are that big to you don't buy a PS3. I'm sure MS loves your 50 bucks per. Meanwhile I get to use that money towards a game.
<------------- intelligent discussion there. hardcore, smart and intelligent discussion here (for ps3 users)
"PS3 lost. Get over it" Lost what? I've never had so much fun on a "failed" console before.
LOL.. the amount of PS fanboys without a 360 posting negative comments in this article is hilarious. What the hell are you people so afraid of? Why in the world would anybody comment on a system and company they seem to hate? Tough love? You people are hard to figure out. The only explanation is that you're all losers. That makes perfect sense to me. I would have a field day on all you asses if i knew you personally. Want to know what a loser is?? Just come on N4G and look for the PS3 fanboys and all their multiple accounts. You don't have to look to far. They're all in the 360 section, surprisingly.
The writing is on the wall for all to see...some will see it exactly for what it is while others will deny it because they prefer to be blind.
If they cut it to $99 for an arcade, I would be really tempted to pick one up as a backup for my current 360 which is out of warranty.
Well the reason it made a huge impact on the PS3 was before everyone didnt buy it because it was expensive now that it drops to a more affordable price. The 360 and Wii have been at that point for awhile now
In this economy, when a company like Sony loses billions of dollars, Microsoft still shows a pure profit of over a billion dollars in a quarter. Oh yeah, they are shaking in thier boots if windows 7 doesn't take off like a jet.. lol I've said it before, did Microsoft hurt you in a past life or somehting. God thats all that comes out of you, microsoft sucks at this, microsoft is in trouble with that. Most companies would kill to be in their financial shoes. Get over it.
I don't think they should cut price. Both xbox and ps3 are kind of at a golden price point in my opinion. They both are the same price which is a major plus and yet aren't too high. Besides if ms and sony both intend a 10 year life cycle like they are claiming then they need to control the price or else it will hurt the longevity of the generation if they drop to fast.
Why would you complain if they dropped anymore lol
please cut it so i can buy 3 more and ship to my home country so i can play my bro in fifa 10 please
Who cares what Pachter thinks?
I mean, why is this guy all ways opening his big mouth and stating the obvious. It's clear the price of the 360 can drop and that could happen at any moment. Thanks Pachter you shmuck.
cut the price someday....next year at spring...
look in my crystal ball just now nope not next spring. sorry try AGAIN
MS is so desperate it would not surprise me. $100 price cut followed immediately by a $50 price cut didn't do sh1t for the sales. It's good to say this: "MS is doomed" hahaha!
kind of sucks don't you guys think
hmmm... I think the elite has to drop to at least $199 so I can buy it...it also better have a 250 GB HDD and a wireless controller+ headset.... then it will definitely be worth it and I will finally give in to buying a 360 so I can try out Halo! (Come on Microsoft can afford to lose money at least for a quarter right? Sony did it for years and has gained TREMENDOUS momentum!) Damn I'm a penny pincher! LOL... [email protected]#K that though I work my ass off for my money, plus I'm a salesman so I know about getting sold on :P
not a very good one if you can't afford it.
buy one get one free I will quit being a fanboy and hang up my gun and declare war is over. srsly once they do that OMFG...
Even with a price drop i wouldnt buy a 360. At least not until MS allows everyone to play online for free. They can charge for any other extra feature they want but if they at least let anyone play online at no extra cost id buy a 360.
online for free (and built in wireless) were my two biggest tipping points for the PS3. Since the PS3 wasn't BC I didn't HAVE to stay with SONY...I could have chosen either. But I can't justify $160 per year (me and 3 kids) to have an online gaming identity. If MS kept the box at the current prices and dropped live fees I could justify the purchase.
said this already http://www.hiphopgamershow.... http://www.hiphopgamershow.... http://www.hiphopgamershow....
honestly... people don't seem to care about one of the industry's most well known analysts, why would they give a crap about your posts? on topic: maybe one more price cut will change my mind abt buying an xbox... $200 without a hard drive is nonsense to me
it doest take a rocket scientist or someone with a degree to figure it out... i dont care if people care or not...it was just to say that it is nothing special about this guy
I have always said that it cost 20 bucks to produce the aftermarket xbot 360 . It a piece of crap and only dumb bots would ever spend money on this over price crap . give it to me for free and i will return it for some ps3 games
360 will be in 3rd Place next year can't wait!
Bleed , Microsoft.
Wouldn't that look a little desperate?
I guess MS is still playing it defensive ever since the PS3 Slim announcement. (and price drop)
For all of you that think that Sony is going to win this console race, you are delusional beyond belief. Currently, they're last! By some miracles, even if they finished second or first, they'll be the biggest loser as a company; gamers will win because they have some great games. Strictly from the company stand point, Sony is going to be the biggest loser because they allow nin and ms to firmly compete against them in every way. Help me out here, but aren't we in year 3 or 4 now already in this console generation and Sony is playing catch up to nin and ms. Didn't Sony sold like a billion ps 2 last generation and nin had something like 25 mil and xbox had 30 mil? See things as they are because some of you allow your fanboyism to cloud sound judgements.
Have you read that MS & Nintendo after price drops are selling the same amount and PS3 has increased. You made the point that 2 billion PS2's are sold, xbox had 30 mil. So that doesn't come into account because M$ lost, tucked their tales under their legs and ran away from that fight. Now the 360 numbers are 32 mil and most XBOX users were forced into the new purchase. PS2 is still selling, these PS2 buyers don't care about this WAR and in 5 years time they may change over to the cheapest console on the market, which will be the PS3 and then that won't count because all 3 companies will have their next system.
Crom now in english please. Biggest loser with the best games unlike the 2 other companys that have had around 3 or 4 good titles that are exclusives.
MICROSOFT IS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ED
Sony wasn't doomed when the 360 outsold the PS3 for 13 months straight, but now Microsoft is doomed when the PS3 outsells the 360 for one month? Strange logic here.
Win7 is already a success based on pre orders around the world. "Amazon UK confirmed this morning they have completely sold out of their allocation of pre-order stock for Home Premium and Professional editions of Windows 7 inside 24 hours." "Windows 7 pre-orders sell-out in Japan" -Engadget- That is just from the UK, many other areas around the globe were in the same position. Win7 will sell excellent based on early pre orders back in July and up until now and all the praise its getting. This is what Vista SHOULD have been at launch. As for Office its not going to be free. You are refering to OFFICE STARTER that will take over Microsoft Works that was always free "As part of Office 2010 software that will be pre-loaded by the PC manufacturers on their PCs, we’re introducing Microsoft Office Starter 2010. Office Starter 2010 is a reduced-functionality, advertising-supported version of Office 2010, available exclusively on new PCs. Office Starter 2010 will provide new PC owners with immediate exposure to the Office 2010 experience on new PCs right out of the box."
Of course Microsoft could cut the price. Considering what an unreliable piece of crap the 360 is I'm sure it only costs Microsoft about 50 cents to produce each unit.
The only thing that can save M$ is Windows 7. If want reviewers are saying is true then M$ has a shot to recoup lots of losses in the 360 division. M$ will only cut prices when its competitors do it. M$ is basically like that friend your doing online h/w with. And he/she tells you to try an answer first, so if you get it right , your friend goes to his/her comp and type it out. However, if its wrong your friend is ok cause YOU got it wrong, so you do redo the problem and repeat the process. The point is M$ has no creativness and will copy what everyone else does if it shows profits.
the arcade should be $99 and the elite $149. i probably still wouldnt buy one though. lol $149 is like 2 ps3 games.
fix the RROD problem and make online play free on xbl.
the 360 and ps3 launched at the same time?
Patcher...no I still want my Firmware Patch, Patcher. Where is it.
are so lame! wow guys get a life instead of dissing on microsoft! damn talk about not having friends to hang out with. losers
They should make it $50 and throw in some of the best 360 games. Nah that's still overpriced.
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