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Icrontic: Forget the console and build a gaming PC, a value comparison.

Debunking the myth that PC gaming is more expensive than gaming on console.

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Mindboggle5731d ago

Well you cant really build a decent gaming pc for the price of a PS3 or 360, but for an extra £200 you can. Plus you get all the other features of a PC...

JsonHenry5731d ago

Yeah, it cost a little more now. But a year ago it was barely more than the price of a console for a mid to mid-high gaming rig.

GWAVE5731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

When it boils down, PC does offer the best value, EVEN IF you end up spending much more on it than a current-gen console.

The main reason why is because PCs are not restricted to the current console generation. While Wii, PS3, and 360 owners are constrained to limited backwards compatability and whatever happens to end up on their download shops, PC can play virtually ANY PC game from ANY era. Wanna try Doom? Go ahead. Heard nice things about Total Annihilation? Give it a spin. Want to play Baldur's Gate II? No problem. Starcraft, Half Life, World of Warcraft, Thief II, Duke Nukem, Tribes, Counterstrike, Crysis, Galactic Civ, Monkey Island, Civilization IV, X-COM...the list is infinite, and let's not forget about the equally-infinite amount of free indie games out there.

PC gaming rocks on the merit of sheer quantity, quality, value, and variety. Anyone who disagrees is not a gamer.

Sarick5731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

Let's assume you're talking about games that run on your PC. I've had so much trouble with PC's that I've given up on them as a gaming rig.

Don't forget. If you own the PC you also need to buy the OS (at least $200 for windows unless you're a pirate) and constantly clean up the mess left over by game software uninstalls. When I'd install demos or games and remove them on a PC they always left directories and registry crap all over the place.

In some cases games like spore installed anti-piracy software garbage too. All that mess makes the PC a hassle. At least with a console you know the games are tested fairly well for your hardware and can be removed relatively simple.

GWAVE5731d ago

@ sarick

I don't see why game installs and crappy OSs have anything to do with actual gaming. Last time I checked, plenty of console gamers were fine with glitches shipping in their final games, hardware crashes, RRoD, and problems caused by firmware updates...

tdrules5731d ago

may i suggest tune up utilities or ccleaner.
every uninstall ive ever done has removed everything from the game

nycredude5731d ago

I think all you guys are missing the point. We are gamers because of the games. Fact is there too many games that are available on consoles and NOT on PC for you to just game solely on PC, unless you only care about mmos.

Also anyone who thinks pc gaming is cheaper than console is delusional. On top of initial cost there is just much more maintenance involved.

FarEastOrient5731d ago

I do graphic design on my computers and for the price of a console in comparison there is no ground. Especially when you are facing facts that a PS3 CELL can compile data faster than a Corei7. There is no major standard to game coding for PCs, hence the numerous patches that comes out in comparison to their console counterparts and the minimum specs are insane (Assassin's Creed PC, Gran Theft Auto PC).

Sarick5730d ago (Edited 5730d ago )

"I don't see why game installs and crappy OSs have anything to do with actual gaming. Last time I checked, plenty of console gamers were fine with glitches shipping in their final games, hardware crashes, RRoD, and problems caused by firmware updates..."

Taking into account most of the truths you mentioned. IMHO, it seems the consoles are still more and reliable less technical. I for one didn't stand for the RROD so that point is moot. What I found out with PC is if software wasn't compatible for some reason as a user I had to figure out what the problem was.

Update drivers, download patches, change hardware, research, change driver setting etc. etc. etc. With the console 99% of the time you can put a game in and it'll play with little or no issues.

I play games to enjoy entertainment. Sure there are gamers out there that are willing to work around problems like RROD, or PC compatibility tweaking but I'm not one of those people. I just wish people didn't act like PC fanboys when people tell them why they'd rather play console games. My mother still can't figure or work the PS3 let alone PC.

I think it's something called personal preference. Honestly, was anything in my original statement baseless conjecture? The only response was to install utilities or tools backing up the very claims I made that hurt the PC experience.

BTW: I have CCleaner, I never said I as a computer idiot just that I didn't enjoy cleaning up after the mess leftover by a lot of software.

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themyk5731d ago

the only pc games i've ever played are.

Oregon trail
solitare
and my all time favorite.
mine sweeper.

god i love mine sweeper.

so i'm a console gamer i guess.

tdrules5731d ago

youre just ignorant, dont worry.
i was until i saw just how good some exclusive pc titles are from the past 5 years.
now im a ps3/pc gamer

dustgavin5731d ago

That is why I stick to PC/PS3 gaming. I get the amazing exclusives on PS3 and multiple platform games on PC.

terrorofdeath5731d ago

Although it may sometimes be better to purchase a PC, it will eventually fall old at a faster rate then consoles. Looking back, it has only been a few years when dual-core PC's came out. Now we have quad-core, i7 etc. Technology for PC's is increasing at a rapid pace.

LethalToxins5731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

How can a PC "fall old" at a faster rate than consoles when consoles are basically outdated by comparison at the time of their release? At least a PC might get four months as most powerful gaming platform on the market...consoles don't even get a day. Unless you're only comparing the PC's power to other PCs...that's just stupid since one: this article is comparing them to consoles, and two: that outdated PC would still put the console to shame regardless.

When consoles are released there are already more powerful PCs out there, so those PCs will all stay better than that console for the entirety of the console's lifespan.

And the gain for going quad over dual core has largely been negligible since most software doesn't utilize the technology anyway. Not to mention for the same price you can get a more powerful dual core by comparison where many tasks will slow down for the similarly priced quad core. You should read up before posting. Here's a yummy link:

http://www.codinghorror.com...

Don't forget all those people who had to buy another console because it bricked. The cooling options, among others, for PCs make them much less likely to die from heat exhaustion. Every person who's had multiple 360s bricked could have bought the absolute best PC on the market, upgraded it a few times, and they'd break even in terms of cost (exaggeration). Not to mention it's not hard to read up on PCs and learn to avoid viruses. I've gone five years without any antivirus software and never had a problem.

Pandamobile5731d ago

PC's may 'fall old' faster, but consoles are old hardware by the time they release.

BlackTar1875731d ago

they may be dated upon release but they don't have to be upgraded every month to keep up with the games that come out. sure you can use your same computer to run games for a year but then if you want to stay with the upgrades in graphic etc you are then forced to upgrade your rig and then the price continues to climb since its a rinse and repeat. Im in to PC gaming but you guys arnt getting what he is saying.

LethalToxins5731d ago

No, I didn't miss the point. I don't like gross exaggerations. Saying you have to upgrade your PC that frequently is a damn lie. The same PC that could play Crysis (max settings) on/near its release date can still play EVERY PC game maxed out today. That's nearly two YEARS ago.

So, how often do I really have to upgrade again? Having the option is not the same as having the necessity. Console gamers use that as a crutch for PCs to talk trash and it's silly at best. Get real.

dirthurts5731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

Is dead wrong.
Maybe if you guy the crappiest card that will barely run the new games, then sure. You may want to upgrade that.
But if you buy a good card, you can play ANY game this gen, easily. And if you guy a great card, you're set for next gen too.

BlackTar1875731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

so your telling me i didnt pay alot of money 2 years ago
for dual 9800 gts video cards with 4 gb of ram and the high end dual core procceser?

How much did those cost hell when i bought those video cards they were retailing at $550 each i got them for $200 cus of my discount even at 200 a video card that is rather expensive and yes those are going out dated pretty soon cant wait to see Crysis 2 specs

So what are saying is want and need? So with a console i dont ahve to worry about not runnign a game at full specs thats the thing here yes you can have a game run good but can you have it run at full spec ? I had my ps2 for years lets say 5 yrs can i get a pc that i dont need to upgrade and still put out the best the game offers ? without upgrading for that same time.

Dont confuse me for a console only gamer ive been building and playing computer games since

Kings Quest, and roger wilco etc. UFO defense one on dos i used to mess around as a young kid in 386 and 486 computers

This sint even a high end card
BFG - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 OC 896MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card
and its almost $300 at a normal retailer how long are you saying this card will last on putting all the new games out at the highest specs?

Man so your saying my old 5 yr old computer or 3 yr old computer can run it at top spec is what your saying. Sure i can run alot of games on my old PC at low specs thats not the answer here. Can you run it at high specs on all future games with current middle end Graphics cards at $200 a peice? and how long can i expect those graphics cards to last at full spec?

No one is denying that you can run games on a old computer im not syaing that im also not all in on this either . But i build my own comp. and i have alot of MFG discount due to my job role so i should be getting them much cheaper then most and way over 50% off retail and its still exp. and my comp will last awhile but im not gonna convinvce people ill be able to run all the top end games with out upgrades over the next short period of 4yrs like a console minn life will do

EDIT:

So even a new game like Op flashpoint already ahs its recommend at my GFX card (Well a series under) and its been 2 years when 2 years ago my graphics cards slammed on all new games it seems that even on a game like this there are hitting my graphics cards # for high end specs

Hard Drive Space : 8 GB
Operating System : Windows XP SP2 or later
Processor : Quad Core CPU
RAM : 2 GB
Video Card : Shader 3.0 (GeForce 8800 GT / 512 MB VRAM or higher), DirectX 9.0c

And were only talking about the GFX card here no sound cards no ram now proccesser nothing but one piece of a multi part product

Last edit.

Toxin good point and its works against you with that high end stuff you purchased 2 years ago how far out dated will it be in 2 years? Now thast 4yrs total and requiring a upgrade gen. of more then one peice in 4 yrs with a console the GFX may not be as good(OBV) but you dont need to have anything extra to stay at top of what the game being released is meant to be at.

One more

http://www.product-reviews....

saying that you can play Crysis on a $900 computer that will not last 4 years at top spec on games and thats $900 how much is a 360 and ps3 hell both are still only 2/3 of that and this is a budget comp.

and this is satted its high setting not max settings so that 900 comp is already outdated if you want top of the line.

dirthurts5731d ago

Will run on consoles. It will run on any decent computer quite easily.

BlackTar1875731d ago (Edited 5731d ago )

Im done adding over and over and this messed up where i meant to post anyways

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LeonSKennedy4Life5731d ago

I have a really nice rig. It can do any game on full...including Assassins Creed. (I find it to be more demanding than Crysis.)

8 GB RAM, intel Quad-core 8200, nVidia 9500 GT, and...I forgot what my physix card was, but I know it's pretty fast.

Regardless of how many games I play on my PC...there just aren't that many people playing the same games. I have a few friends that own Counter Strike Source, Unreal Tournament III, and Crysis...but very seldom do any of them even touch their computers with "gaming" in mind.

They're just their for convenience at this point...for a rainy day.

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Black Ops 6 Terminus Island Is Now On Call of Duty: World at War

Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Zombies Terminus Island map is recreated for World at War and it looks scarier than the original version!

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies417d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken417d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing69418d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker418d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo418d ago (Edited 418d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing69418d ago (Edited 418d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos418d ago (Edited 418d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt417d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken417d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein456d ago (Edited 456d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville455d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi454d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein454d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos454d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein454d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

ZycoFox455d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead455d ago (Edited 455d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK455d ago (Edited 455d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long454d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger88455d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake455d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos455d ago (Edited 455d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts455d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername455d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai455d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long454d ago (Edited 454d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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