PGR3 Used to Promote PS3 Again...for a 3rd time

PGR3 has been used to promote the Playstation 3 for a THIRD TIME. First we had PGR3 being advertised as Gran Turismo on a website. Last week we had PGR3 being advertised as a PS3 game on a KIA compeition website partnered with Sony. Now we have this... I'll let the image do the talking.

Why?....

[power of Green]

PGR4 going to sell thousands of PS3s, more than PGR3 thats for sure.

You people make me sick why isn't Sony on top of their game allowing somebody to use their brand name to falsly advertise their products. What company allows false info to sell their name/products.???????????????? ??????

Talk about Making some one sick.

Look at these new pics of GTHD.

[EZCheez]

You're right.

At least this guy speaks the truth.

http://www.dailytech.com/ar...

[dissectionalrr]

what does that link have to do with the story?

[Maddens Raiders]

-- "You people make me sick why isn't Sony on top of their game allowing somebody to use their brand name to falsly advertise their products. What company allows false info to sell their name/products.???????????????? ??????" --

WTH are you talking about? SNE didn't make the owners / publishers / editors / writers of this magazine use that stock photo of PGR as an ad. Have you gone mad? You think SNE is everywhere at everytime to watch what magazines do or print?

It's a mediamarket article <<<<<<<-- ---[very important] with a misplaced piece of copyart. In this case a photo. What this shows to me is that the people making these ads and magazines etc have no clue about videogames.. Aren't there people checking if the content of these things is correct? Obviously they have no clue aswell..

Calm down POG. You're giving SNE waaay too much credit & BTW that Forza 2 pic you showed looks very gray, dull and arcadish. Really not looking good at all. Just my take.

Cheers

[Amplifier]

doing anything, the stupid magazines and Kia are getting those screens, not Sony!

You people make me sick with trying to make Sony look bad when you are the ones looking like a FOOLS.

@mp

PS - Yes I am calling people that believe Sony would honestly use something that is copyright protected to advertise their system, FOOLS!

[WilliamRLBaker]

How you look past every thing and still dont blame sony.
THESE ARE SONY COMMERCIALS with SONY COMMERCIAL Products it would responsiblity of sony to stop such commercials from being made.

Its they're Legal department that should be observing these commercials and seeing that hey that game isn't ours and isn't on our system so we should stop them from using it.

Face it sony is not some nameless pawn here, by certifying such commercials they are just as to blame as the companies that produce them.

[EZCheez]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but since you brought up forgiving customers it kind of reminds me of the Microsoft faithful that are so forgiving of faulty equipment and bad patches.

Go ahead and say it's not Microsoft's fault, but when you are the company that gets to pocket the money made off of said consoles and patches, then you are also the one to blame for bad QA. Now replace the name "Sony" for "Microsoft" and "advertisements" for "consoles and patches." See how easily these roles can be reversed?

Go ahead and accuse me of flaming. I post what I think. So sue me.

[DEIx15x8]

The game developers, publishers, and (with console pushers) platform owners usually release press packages to the different media outlets to use. THey usually contain photos, videos, descriptions, statements, lists of things included (people, vehicles, levels, etc.) and sometimes even stock interviews and other reviews. THey release them for the sole purpose of making it easy to get accurate articles published at a faster rate since the more articles the more people know about the game. Since we've seen PGR3 photos used for GT:HD by Sony themselves, publications, and even contest partners it would seem to be a case of falsified press packages.
If those photos were indeed included they could have been for the purpose of comparison but people didn't read the letters. Since people look for the best pics when publishing/advertising though, it shouldn't have been such a common occurrence for someone to grab the photo that was meant to look worse.

[WilliamRLBaker]

Did I say any thing about microsoft? no i did not, And you can disagree with me if you want its not like i'm oblivious to the fact people have differing opinions then my own.
But Failing systems are a totally different thing, Yes its microsofts fault for not just saying send us your systems that are proven to be defunct and we will fix em for free.

But the variables surrounding broken systems, how they broke, weither it was because of consumer tampering...ect Are too large to just say its all microsofts fault.

This is totally different, All these Are commercials/ads that HAVE TO BE ok'd by sony them selves, They use trademarks and copyrights of the sony corporation And I would assume at somepoint sony's legal department would have to review said commercials before they were put into magazines, shown on tv...ect

Yet seemingly they aren't and this guy says its not sonys fault, At somepoint it is sonys fault because in most ad's the copyright holders have to OK said usage before its allowed onto the market and with such blarring problems such as using a game that has never and hasn't been announced to be on a sony system it seems like they never reviewed them, Or did and decided to ok it anyways.

[EZCheez]

I never said you commented on Microsoft. What you did say was-

"What I find funny is how you can look past everything and still don't blame Sony"

Hence the reason for the comparison. I based my argument on what I considered your thesis statement. Seeing as how you had such a broad statement for the main topic, I just wanted to show that this view can be seen from either direction, no matter the topic.

I have no doubt that this is in some shape or form Sony's fault. I tend to look at things from a military standpoint (mainly because i'm in it). When someone on even the lowest level f's up, then everyone up the chain all the way to the boss looks like an idiot, and will feel the heat.

And to consider that there aren't just as many variables in advertising that could easily lead to this mistake is solely your own opinion. I really doubt there is anyone here with a degree in advertising, so we could argue about this all night though.

[cuco33]

someone at sony has to sign off for using sony images, brands, etc so even if it's the magazine leading charge, even if it's kia, or anyone else at the end of the day a sony exec is signing off

better to know your product before being canned cuz this is now just ridiculous. i can see it going once by accident, maybe a 2nd time... but 3? cmon now... someone at sony isnt doing their job!

[Grown Folks Talk]

the only people giving microsoft a pass on faulty hardware are the ones who haven't had any problems. i see owners who've had to replace their system comment on it virtually every day. the majority of society doesn't care about a problem as long as it doesn't directly affect them.

[Amplifier]

then I guess you could say Sony has control over "everyone"

You people are retard to think that Sony can be everywhere everytime someone decides to falsify their products.

I don't know if you understand how the world works but I guarantee that Sony wouldn't need PGR3 or PGR4 when they clearly have GT to show the system graphical powers.

Disagree all you want still won't change how foolish you really are

@mp

[WilliamRLBaker]

And I can understand looking past a systems hardware faults and the blame of the manufacturer...ect because there are vastly more variables to think about when it comes to the creation, the production and the overall functionality and durability then an ad or commercial.

I cannot understand him basically turning a blind eye to every thing and saying in no way is it sony's fault for those commercials, The production, and end result on the durability of a system is much more complex and has many more people dealing with it then an ad or commercial.

Producing, and sending out an ad is less complex of a process (i've worked in the TV and AV department at my school and we went over this stuff in those classes so i know atleast a lil of what i'm talking about)
The parent company wants to put out an ad or commercial if that company has ad department then this is regulated to them, they must secure the rights to any images they do not own to use in the commercial once they have secured said rights and the storyboards...ect are put together the commercial is shot, or created then it is put into magazines and or tv after airtime is purchased. this is the basics of a tv commercial and its production...

If a company wants to make a commercial including another product they must obtain rights to use said images likeness..name...ect in said commercial Most of the process they have to pitch the commercials basic concept and sometimes entire concept to get the legal rights by the parent of said copyrighted material.

usually at most there are no more then 50-100 people dealing with this at a time, Unlike a consoles creation,production and release to the consumer where who knows how many people are involved.

At somepoint the legal department at sony handling the rights of said products had to have seen that the commercials and ads contained images and the names...ect of a product they did not own, or was not on they're system, Yet sony did nothing about it.

Mind you neither did the copyright owners of pgr..ect so its not all sony's fault its alot of different agencies and corporate bodies faults, But he basically said sony was at no fault at any time which is just silly.

And Amp its not retarded to assume that sony atleast has control over its own copyrights and patents...I mean its just sad if sony isn't capable of controling a simple commercial or ad that contains its copyrights...ect dont you think?

[PimpNick_1980]

Both of you clam down, smoke something, the PS3 has enough bad press on its own.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Contradictory, don't you think?

Just sayin'...

[InMyOpinion]

Yeah! Jesus was a pimp, not a pot smoker! Shame on you!

[Marceles]

..period.

[sticky doja]

Maybe the PS3 images don't look as good as PGR images so they want to spice up the ad.

[clownfacemcgee]

GT-HD looks incredible. Anyone who looks at a simple comparison can see that GT-HD looks better than PGR3. Look at the screen shots for both and tell me that GT-HD doesn't look noticeably better than PGR3.

[Lord Anubis]

as if Sony has anything to do with this.

[LoveHateTragedy]

but that it doesn't look good enough to be a PS3 title in the first place. Should be a big 'DUHR' for these magazine editors.

[DixieNormS]

It looks like mister 4 eyes ain't wearing his glasses. LOL

[LoveHateTragedy]

Nice! =]

[gnothe1]

I guess the same way gundam,genji,an others dont look good enough to be Ps3 games.DJ your pathetic. stop being such a tool!!

DJ your a tool an you know it but anyways....

I just bought VF5 an I must say that I'm really impressed with this games graphics. looks better than I thought. does it look better than DOA4(honestly) yes. the attention paid to detail on the characters are unbelievable, you can see the pores in the characters skin an everything. the thing is, now lets see if the can do the same thing with the 360 version!!

[LoveHateTragedy]

You should bring up Untold Legends too, 'cause that thing was horrendous. I don't know HOW Sony let that one out of the gates. It belongs on the PSP, not on its big bro. You should stick it to him! He's such a Sony lover, it's sick. Ok, true, he has an Xbox, but that's only one Microsoft console. Pbbbt.

[FeralPhoenix]

Hold on DJ, was that "sarcasm":

"Ok, true, he has an Xbox, but that's only one Microsoft console. Pbbbt."

-So owning a original xbox makes you somehow "unbiased"?, actually no one is unbiased but some "try" to have balance in their comments. Saying I own an xbox doesn't change the fact that everybody on this site knows you are an extreme Sonyfanboy. Come on DJ, who are you trying to fool?....-uhm maybe the guy who joined N4G yesterday?.....because I don't think anybody who's been around this site for more than 2 days would say you are NOT, a "Extreme Sonyfanboy" with a straight face. Thats like saying the Mart loves Sony. -lmfao

Now like I said before this isn't (directly) Sony's fault, but they need to start making sure anybody who's affiliated/marketing the PS3 has indeed QC/checked their material before release....because ultimately it makes them look bad. = uninformed WILL blame Sony.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

[Bonsai1214]

since this one is in a magazine, its the artistic editors fault..

the other two times i can't say though. but w/e, why is this making the news? its a mistake.. big whoop

[alsef07]

bECAUSE ITS FUNNY, AND ITS BASHING THE PS3, AND I GUESS PEOPLE LIKE READING THAT, IF NOT THEY WOULDNT PUT UP SO MANY ARTICLES ABOUT IT, JUST DEAL WITH IT

[Bathyj]

You people are seriously just looking for things to complain about and if you're really upset over thins it just shows how desparate you're getting.

How in the hell would Sony be able to control what ever douchey, magazine, PR company or webmaster do. What exactly can they do to stop dumb mistakes like this that they have nothing to do with, other than locking the gate after the horse has bolted. Can M$ stop bootleg versions of XP being made? No? Then how are you going to stop people from printing a photo?

As if they wanted their console associated with PGR.

[FeralPhoenix]

Yeah, I'm in agreement that Sony can't control everything, but this is different from "bootlegs" etc. because that is stuff created totally against M$'s will, like modding but this is stuff in a magazine and a ad campaign thats designed to promote/market Sony products, which correct me if I'm wrong by law has to at least be Ok'd by the company to use their products....where I think the problem is, is that its pretty easy for companies affiliated with Sony to get permission to run and ad in their magazine, and you are right its hard to know that they would make a mistake like this beforehand....Why would they expect them to mess up something so simple?, but at this point maybe they need to have these little mags and advertising firms submit their ads for approval, or maybe just tighten up on these people somewhat.
Now in the end I do think this is just more about Sony bashing than anything else....but thats exactly why Sony should take some action.

[Edit]vvvvvv #10.2 Makes sense, I agree.

[Bathyj]

Yeah maybe, the controls need to be tightened or something. I dont know what processes are involved with something like this. Certainly the Kia ad was a Ballsup since that were using PS3 (presumeably with permission) to promote their car, but this is just an article (not an advertisement) in a magazine. And for all we know some little instore magazine. Now if Sony commissions a Mag to do an Ad I'm sure there are Proof Reads and submissions, first draphs and Sony (or whoever was acting on behalf of them to get the Ad made) would probably see the final layout before its printed. But when it comes to an article on a PS3 I'd almost guarantee (without actually knowing for sure) that Sony DON'T see it beforehand and in fact have nothing to do with it. Does anyone really think every article in a magazine or website for that matter gets sent to Sony and then waits on them to reply before going to print. Not just unlikely, impossible.

As for the bigger picture here (for me at least) anyone getting actually upset over this, needs to take a step back from themselves and try to look their motives from an impartial set of eyes. Does every little thing have to turn into a witch hunt? We are not politicians. Our medium of choice is supposed to be all about fun and entertainment. Sometimes I understand why outsiders (non gamers) still think games are for kids. They must read the occassional message board.

[progx]

lol sonyboy denial.

[alsef07]

But yeah, this article isnt even interesting anyway, its pointless, good excuse to keep bashing the system

[techie]

Genji LOOOKS incredible.

[Bathyj]

He changed his post and now everyones wondering what the hell you're talking about.

[techie]

haha funny.

[progx]

ATTACK THE WEAKPOINT!

[kingboy]

Why even use this .... when u got GT HD? pfff! move on!!

Edit
lol it`s u who`s angry not me..looser

[FordGTGuy]

GT:HD looks as good as PGR3? You must be kidding yourself what kind of idiot are you? Mr. One Bubble Wonder.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

PGR4 looks hella better than your precious little GTHD! Sony knows damn well what they are doing! So does the people putting these screen shots out. Next we will see screens of Gears Of War being shown as Resistance Fall Of Man hahahaha! Now what queennie boy? What do you have to say now? Oh my bad! You can`t, like nas with one mic, you have only one bubble hahahaha!

[PS360PCROCKS]

I love how anything bashing the 360's reliability or Microsoft's 'inability' to fix them or numerous other things is the biggest deal in the world. But the second this happens it's not Sony's fault? Are you serious? It's their company, their system, their ads, they're therefore responsible for the content within. If Kia had an ad with a BMW car and they said it was theirs, what... that's motortrend's fault? You're all ridiculous...Once was funny, twice was hysterical, three times...shame on you Sony.

[neogeo]

don't stop

[midgard229]

seriously, is this affecting ur gameplay??? or ya got nothin else better to do than look for crappy articles just to bash sony lol

[Covenant]

Three times?!?

The only reason I can think of for this happening over and over is that there is a generic "pool" of images out there for articles to draw from--maybe a website--and they're labeled wrong there. Something like that happened when I was in college--three different area newspapers had the same wrong file photo for a building.

Aside than that, it's someone with an odd sense of humor.

[PhinneousD]

it might be microsoft infiltrating marketing. making a sony story into a microsoft story. they've done it in the launch of the ps3 in europe with their booze cruise. lol. them seattle folk are some wily guys! ;-P

[gta_cb]

it shouldnt have happened the first time but it did, and surely Sony would have found out about it. So they should have kept an eye out for it incase it happened a second time, but it did.

but now its happened 3times?!... im sorry if you dont agree, but it just shouldnt have happened

[level 360]

Nothing gets approved till it is said so by Sony and it's marketing/advertising staff, the same people that are coming-out with such false projected statistics. That the PS3 sales are so massively strong - and kickin' the competition by the wayside. I't's already the ( 3rd ) time blunder for all of them, and this projects strongly on their blurry judgements ( what a load of crap/money hungry people - the whole lot of them... not to main brand itself though ), but more on the Sony name.

[Lumbo]

whoever believes that "mediamarkt" gets ANY advert "ok'ed" by EVERY single company whose products are included should get a mental checkup.

The ad-mags from mediamarkt are solely checked by mediamarkt, no one else. I found phillips av receiver pics used for advertising aiwa av receivers in them, its nothing new, neither something scare. The whole notion that sony is supposed to check and ok every single freaking advert paper for every freaking existing electronics store on the whole world is so pathetic that its rather beneath comment

[kamakazi]

OMG they did what? are you serious. teh end is soon for teh PS3!!!!! jesus christ some people need to grow up. damn kids

[Foxx77]

Why is this news, a magazine that switched out images and has nothing to do with Sony at all doing it. I don't know why this is such an attention grabber when games like Starcraft 2 is announced less than a day ago.

[StrboyM]

its obvious someone who doesn't know the difference (and doesn't care) between Gt and PGR4 placed these. if it were any of us fanboys, we would have never made that mistake, someone is still getting a check for this. and he /she probably still doesn't know what the F$#k up is...

[Pika-pie]

I never really liked PGR, not really my sort of thing. But if it helps to grow interest in the PS3 then its all good.

[ACE]

pgr3 is amazing considering it was a rush job , thats why every pgr fan is looking forward to pgr4 .

its a game for the hardcore racing fans on xbox 360 and it looks amazing in hd .

as for this article LOL i don't blame Sony for using pgr3 to promote ps3 , thats how much respect pgr3 has .

now wouldn't it be funny for Microsoft to sue Sony over this lol .

[M1am1U]

Although it's a third party that made the mistake, like the other two cases. I agree there should be a little more attention paid to detail with these ads and articles, but there's no need to crucify these people. Now if Sony came out with a first party commercial featuring PGR3 images or videos, then that would be something to point fingers at. The whole thing is still a bit humorous, being that it's happened three times, but that's about where it stops with me.

[sumfood4u]

Especially when it come to there own Product!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

What next Gears of War or Halo footage? PGR3 almost two years old, what’s that say about Sony? Every one of the Sony drones above are like "don't blame Sony they didn't do it" but they sure aren’t doing anything to stop it. So they let other people display obvious superior games from another console to promote the week and dying PS3, Only to find that those games aren’t even on that console. That’s f**ked up for someone puts down a hard earned $600 on a PS3 only to find its the other less expensive and better console that plays those games.

[techie]

who cares

[Whoooop]

I think is partially SONY's fault, because they need to have competitive people in every department that knows what they are doing.

SONY is a company, so sony ain't fully responsible, they can't be checking on every little detail like this. They have people that are supposed to be responsible for this kind of things.

whoever is in charge of the publicity and promotions of that particular website or magazine should be fired or at least get a warning, because SONY (as a company) is supposed to trust on their employees..

In conclusion, The real responsibility is specifically on the person who is responsible of approving that article.. SONY is just getting the blame for an employee's screw up..

Pardon ma English

[Russbomb]

this is actually really funny,
I love GT 4 and HD and don't have a 360 (refer to flag) and I really do think that this is funny. I think that sony doesn't have any good pics of GT HD or 5 and they just figured that no one would notice the difference. Or maybe there is some guy working on all these things supplying false pics, or maybe project goth is just prettier.
idk but I think that 3 times is stepping out of bounds Sony

[id dot entity]

Right... congrats 360!

[Dr Pepper]

The third time has caused all of this
Imagine a fourth...

scary...

[MikeGdaGod]

is there any reason the game won't be on ps3? is it made by MS?

not trying to be funny, i really don't know

[gnothe1]

no it wont be on the PS3 because this game is PUBLISHED by MS.just like GEARS,HALO,MASS EFFECT, those are all MS funded an published games!!