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GT5 needs two things that GT5P didn't have...

Destructoid: "I've always been a fan of racing games, every since I first played Mario Kart 64. Those were the good old days, when I was younger and times were simpler. Actually even today I crank out Mario Kart DD once in a while for late night multilayer gaming. I later moved up to Need for Speed starting with Hot Pursuit. That game's offline multiplayer was a blast, especially the cop chases. Then I moved up to the world of GT and later Grid, the more realistic driving games. It took a little while getting used too but I've always chased after realism and now I love GT. Now I'll agree that GT5P is realistic as it is and I was impressed, but there is always room for improvement. Here are two realism improvements I hope for, in GT5, next spring..."

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WildArmed5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

hot girls stripping!
oh wait im thinking of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 >.>

on a side note:
I think it might be to late for them to implement a sophisticated damage system. But time will tell

dreamcast5375d ago

I read an IGN preview that said there would be a damage system where the more you damaged your car, the harder it was to drive.

droid and bot5375d ago

damage and roll over is confirmed
http://us.gran-turismo.com/...

destructoid.com is just downplaying GT5
i mean look at this

"Looks like "Burnout 3: Takedown" from years ago Right?"

WTF ??

AKNAA5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

Grid had a very good damage system... maybe to good, cause when it came down to winning, you would have to get to the finish line with a flawless vehicle...
So if for example I crashed twice within the first lap, I pretty much didn't see the point of continuing which brought me to the point of no longer wanting to play the game after a while, lol!
yeah, the damage system pissed me off so F$#kin' much!
Thats why I'm hoping GT5 doesn't go to that extreme.
BTW, movable objects within the track, awesome!

Just look at this!!! I could care less if GT5 had damage!

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

memots5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

Wow dude i have been reading this whole loads of crap lately about F3 this, and F3 that, then Gt this, and GT that.

After viewing a lot of video floating around N4G and i even watched some comparison (posted earlier today).

This VIDEO - > http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

This video told me right there that Gt5 is the ONE. Its not even close people.

Any one who still have any doubt need to watch the video above !! wow

Thanks AKNAA for the link

droid and bot5375d ago

to me
GT is the king in all aspects after this video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and yes this is in game
NOT CGI
as all the xbox fan boys claim

i mean i never saw this in forza
so much for those 100,000,000 polygon for each car

LiL T5375d ago

Half a Turn studios & Fortza = The DEFINITIVE online sticker editor.

AKNAA5375d ago

No problem bro, I just got tired of everyone comparing Forza 3 to the GT5:p demo.. I mean wft?! compare F3 to a more updated GT5 at least so That it will end all debate of which is better.

beardpapa5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

All those vids and pictures are from cgi because they look too real and if it were on the 360, it'd be CGI too. And GT5's physics suck because it's like GT5p. And GT5p's physics is like GT4 all over again. I would know because I'm not a fanbot, I owned a PS2 before and played GT1, 2, 3, 4, and GT5p. The physics is exactly the same as GT1 even! That's what my goggles tell me. Oh yea! And GT5's physics gonna suck so bad because the cars can't roll over and prop themselves back up slowly like magic cars! yea! And the hill textures don't magically pop up!

/sarcasm

mega BIG time5375d ago

Why feel the need to dis forza 3 in a pro ps3/gt5 article? Are you that insecure? How come I can own a ps3 and not be a fanboy? You should probably learn a lesson from me and chill out.

callahan095375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

@ beardpanda:

I disagreed because about half-way through your wall of sarcasm I decided that I wasn't possibly going to agree with anything else you could say and wasn't even going to read it. But then after I clicked disagree, I saw the "sarcasm" tag at the end. So, uh, my apologies. I just assumed you really didn't have your facts straight and were spewing garbage.

Anyway, about the article, these guys claim they want a realistic damage system, in then they go on to say they want it to be impossible to total your car so that it is impossible to finish a race. What? That's a contradiction. You can either have realistic damage, or you don't have it... limiting damages so that you can't total your car is NOT realistic damage.

Chubear5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

Trying to latch Forza onto GT to make it seem like a legit competitor. Just like it's been done with so many PS3 exclusives

Pure: Latch it onto Motorstorm
Prototype: Latch it onto Infamous
Splinter Cell: Latch it onto Uncharted
Forza: Latch it onto GT

GT is miles ahead of Forza. It's a joke to even try to compare these two games. GT surpasses Forza in lap over lap in every single department. The whole damage argument has fallen flat on it's face now that we've seen Forza's damage is totally lame and crap compared to what GT5 is presenting.

All gaming sites like this one are trying to do is force the notion that Forza and GT are similar and it's only a matter of taste when in fact Forza pales massively compared to GT. GT is a car enthusiast racing sim game while Forza is just a racing video game.

Watch, NA gaming sites will bath Forza in 9s & 9.5s and when GT launches 6months after totally decimating Forza in every single department they'll give it a .1 better rating than Forza. The gaming media have turned into ad$ whores. It's disgusting and have to be an absolute fool to use these sites for info on your gaming experiences. Sure use them for their other features like forums or vid interviews etc but to give you accurate info on games via reviews? You'd be a fool indeed.

randomwiz5375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

both his points were confirmed to be in GT5

damage affects driving:
http://ps3.qj.net/Video-Cra...
"la voiture commence à tirer à droite."
"j'ai une grosse perte de puissance."
basically translates to the car starts to shoot straight, and he starts losing power.

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sak5005375d ago

Removing Bumpcar mechanics

DelbertGrady5375d ago

You can't win races in Forza by corner bumping the other cars like in GT. Forza is a simulator.

This is what I think they need to add.

1. Fun (the gameplay of GT is extremely stiff and boring)
2. Proper customization (Instead of 120 different Civics, give us one we can customize properly)

PlayStation X5375d ago

lmao soda you make me laugh

'forza is a simulator? rewind time lmao real simulator!!11!!

gt5 gameplay is stiff n boring? gt5 is a simulation thats why you think its stiff n boring you dumb fck its realistic.

fcking kids these days =/ thick as sh1t.

sak5005375d ago

@1.3

You must be retarded.. I hv a v8 6.0L car and no way driving it is boring but yeah GT5 makes the car boring. I guess you armchair driving experts know better when all u ride in real life are tricycles.

Major_Tom5375d ago

Yeah cuz those car physics in Forza and damage modeling are all so accurate right. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Like for example.

Chubear5375d ago

That's all you 360fans keep doing. You keep comparing Forza3 to GT4. You all know fully well we haven't seen a current gen Gran Turismo yet but have seen TWO current gen versions of Forza.

I wonder, which you think should be a better quality title? One that's rushed out soon after a rushed out Forza2? or one that's taken it's time to present a proper current gen version of the series?

The 360base are such fools.

Oner5375d ago

Is that all you got Soda? Because that sure is weak!

1 shortcut on 1 track on GT5 ***PROLOGUE*** & a non "flippable" car again in GT5 ***PROLOGUE*** when it has already been confirmed that ALL CARS in GT5 have damage AND can flip!

Sources for the uninformed/misinformed -

Damage ~ http://www.gtplanet.net/all...

Roll Over ~ http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

Major_Tom5374d ago (Edited 5374d ago )

When did I say GT5P was better at anything, you're the sore loser who can't come to justice with a game that in the eyes of many is sub-par. At least GT5 is delayed to actually make the game better and yet Forza is being released as is, that in itself is a crime to the fans.

In the current state, both games are broken as hell, except Forza makes it seem like an absolute hilarious mockery of physics and damage.

However atleast PD is going back to the drawing board for the same criticisms that both games are catching flak for. It's a hell of a shame that turn 10 is releasing the game in the shape it's in, it looks like a beta.

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unrealgamer585375d ago

2 things gt5 needs that the DEMO didn't have....... >.>

Major_Tom5375d ago

"Hopefully Polyphony have realized this and are working on these. I know they are working on the damage system, but it isn't quite up to my standards yet." but Destructoid thinks Forza damage system IS up to snuff? LOL.

Good thing this is just a community blog otherwise there would be hell.

Chubear5375d ago

How the hell can you be great with Forza's damage but turn your nose up at GT's when it's way way more advanced than Forza's. This is MS's push for Christmas. They need this one bad and are doing there PR work hard.

NA editorial gaming sites are in the bag and bought on this one.

Hanif-8765375d ago (Edited 5375d ago )

Rollovers/flips are confirmed for GT5 already, there's a (new physics engine) and all cars have damage, but its just the Racing/Rally cars that boost a better damage modeling..but that will change thats why the game was delayed.

Here is a link of a ferrari/streetcar taking damage:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

beardpapa5375d ago

It's easier for developers to get the go-ahead to do full scale damage/deformation up to the car being totaled in rally cars and Nascar. I assume because we see them damaged up so badly on television that it's easier to procure the right to do damage rightfully done. Street cars on the other hand probably prove more difficult for developers to get the okay for realistic damage.

I'd also assume not many street legal car manufacturers would want a game to realistically represent how their car would damage in actual daily driving. This would explain why many games that do have damage in street cars only allow so much damage to happen - bumpers fall off, scuff marks, paint chips, car performance/handling damage that can't be seen - and not so much that it encroaches onto the driver's safety zone.

If you take that into account, it definitely explains why there aren't many racers out there that represent damage faithfully. However, you can argue that Burnout has really good damage, but again none of the cars in Burnout are real or represent a real-life counterpart. You can also say that some other games allow damage, but take into account these other games typically have customization options. I think that at the point where you customize a car with body parts, livery, or actual aftermarket parts, is the point where manufacturers believe it no longer represents their car realistically when it comes to damages or performance. Kinda like when you install an aftermarket body kit or turbo is when the car manufacturer no longer honors their warranty.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow691d ago (Edited 691d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989691d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow691d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989691d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled691d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher691d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim691d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow691d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721758d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1758d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1758d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1758d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921758d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1758d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1757d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1757d ago (Edited 1757d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21758d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1757d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821758d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1758d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1758d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1758d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1758d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1758d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1758d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1758d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21758d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1758d ago (Edited 1758d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1757d ago (Edited 1757d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1757d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1757d ago (Edited 1757d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1757d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1758d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1758d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1758d ago (Edited 1758d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1758d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1758d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1758d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1758d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811758d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1758d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1758d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1758d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1758d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1795d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1795d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1795d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1795d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1795d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1795d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1795d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121795d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1795d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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