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Top 5 Things That Should Be Included In The Box

Go Gaming Giant looks at what should be included when you buy a new console.

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gameseveryday5750d ago

I hope companies listen to what GGG is saying!

Go Gaming Giant5750d ago

lol most likely they won't but who knows, I think faceplates would be an awesome thing to include, especially for the next 360, I know they don't really do much but I like them a lot. I have two of them for my console.

CadDad5749d ago

I think systems should come with both the SD and HD hookups. We're talking a couple bucks at most for these giants and a lot less hassle for consumers.

If the system has been out for awhile, I like the idea of providing a voucher or shipping a free "greatest hits" game upon system registration. Bundles are cool and everything, but people have different interests and should be allowed to pick the GH game they want.

The rest of the stuff in the article is fluff, imo.

-CadDad

SupaPlaya5749d ago

it is a crime not bundling a HMDI cable for the HD consoles. A 6 ft one cost $3.xx at Monoprice and yet they're still making profit. It can't be that expensive to put one in.

I wonder how many people is using the AV cables on their HDTV.

Timesplitter145749d ago (Edited 5749d ago )

I disagree with all of this. Not everyone needs or wants those, so it's better to make the console cheaper and buy whatever you want afterwards.

Faceplates? Never wanted them.
DVD remote? I don't give a damn. Controller does all the job.
Replacement safety equipment? Consoles shouldn't break in the first place (and I know none of my consoles ever broke).
Extra controller? What if my buddy has his own?
Game? What if I don't like it?

jmare5749d ago

Why would console manufacturers include HD cables, especially HDMI, when the majority of people still have crappy SD TVs? It's simply playing the odds. Yes, people with HDTVs will get pissed, but everyone else will be able to play no problem.

SupaPlaya5749d ago (Edited 5749d ago )

Using the same logic, every game should be 480P at best. What's the point of having HD consoles until the majority of TV owners have HDTV? The cable is cheap enough to include so the people who knows what HD is can take advantage of what they bought it for.

When I first bought my PS3 I assume at least a component cable is included. I was wrong and had to order the HDMI cable and wait for it to get here. Poor research on my part yes, but annoying nonetheless.

zeeshan5749d ago

Many people do not realize that the retailers like BestBuy, Frys, Amazon, NewEgg, GameStop etc do not make much money selling consoles but they make a bundle selling different accessories like mice, controllers and especially component, hd cables. Perhaps this is one strong reason why M$ and Sony do not include these cables for the consumers. Retailers want to make money as well y'know!

darthv725749d ago

Seems like a good opinion piece. I do have to say though that it is all subjective. From a gamers point of view we will always want it all out of the box. From the mfg point of view they have to give what they feel is enough for the $$.

Up till recently the 360's came with the combo a/v cable (except arcade). Opting to make the arcade and elite the same now with the std a/v cable is a mistake. If anything they should have gone the other way and included the combo cable in the arcade. I can see the removal of the hdmi as it allows the consumer to go get their own or use one if they have a spare. Plus you got to figure what is the right length. Some people dont have their console right next to the set so a 6ft cable wouldnt work. Maybe not even a 10ft. Some may want a shorter cable due to having their console next to the set.

2nd controller is nice and reminds me of back in the old days of promoting multiplayer games. Now we get a single controller and still promote multiplayer but just not local. The remote thing...not so much as the controller does a fine job of doing that. I have the official sony ps3 remote and got it with the movie hancock for $30. Really nice but if I am gaming and switch to watching a movie it is still just as easy for me to navigate using the ds3.

I am surprised there wasnt more about wifi and bluray or hdd. Honestly you need to understand that not every company follows the same business plan as the next. What works and is included for one may not be what the other is going for.

Faceplate and game...game maybe but also getting a disc filled with playable demos is better than a single game. I can recall when the saturn and ps1 had demo discs. It was a taste of what you could get without being stuck playing the pack in till you got $$ to actually buy games. Although sat did come with virtua fighter but it was also $100 more than ps1 when released.

Still, a decent read.

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gooneygugu5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

DVD/Blu-ray controller yes, but aside from the PS3 I think generally systems do come with a game. An extra controller definitely should be included the top tier of every console should come with that, a light gun and a little robot.

Go Gaming Giant5750d ago

little robot? lol and ye most consoles do come with a game I suppose but not all

Komega5750d ago

I remember my NES that came with that robot...I loved that robot:)

gameseveryday5750d ago

instead of one game put in two games! it will be a sell out in minutes!

Go Gaming Giant5750d ago

there are bundles that come with two games

TheHip145750d ago

ye I think the elite came with two games at one point

sukru5749d ago

I think they'll bundle Blur and one other game this year. They do it for every holiday season (I got my (pro) with Forza 2 + Ultimate Alliance, last year elite was with Loge Indi + Kungu Fu Panda).

They also put several arcade games (free ones), plus lots of demos in the hard drives. We bought a 360 for a friend, it was set to go when we turned it on.

HarryM5749d ago

Yeah, nearly all Xbox 360 bundles come with at least two games, well, that's in England.

I'm not sure about the other countries...

SupaPlaya5749d ago (Edited 5749d ago )

the bundle was Kung Fu Panda with Lego star wars I believe. There is also going to be a 2 game holiday bundle for the 360 in the US.

Darrius Cole5749d ago

#1. A permanent power source for the controller, whether that be a cord, rechargeable battery + charger etc.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola13d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion11d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola11d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin10d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola10d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop10d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel110d ago (Edited 10d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola10d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel19d ago (Edited 9d ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris13d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK11d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds11d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar11d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy11d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel110d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola13d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer11d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused11d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion11d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher11d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer11d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion11d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola11d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje11d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola11d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused11d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno11d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool11d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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I subscribed to this not knowing about how some of the proceeds go to St. Judes.

Really cool that some of the money goes there.

Even if people don't subscribe to the mag, it might bring people to the charity.

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One of the main charities my wife and I donate to. They help a lot of children and being a parent of 5 children I can’t imagine what those parents go through. I’ll probably get a sub to GI because of St Jude and of course because I love video games.

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