Reggie Fils-Aime, President of Nintendo of America, answers the question of whether Nintendo can compete with the likes of Halo 3: ODST and Modern Warfare 2.
Does it have to? It(the Wii) doesn't cater to that audience anyways.
Well, personally, I feel they can do, if they want. MP3 is a great game, imo like all the metroid AND Prime games and was only lacking some online MP-which they could easily add with the next game they get from Retro(Hunters managed well on DS, no?). While I'm no big fan of COD games(don't like the controls that much)I've always been a Halo fan and felt the last Halo wasn't as much fun in SP as MP3 was. They might not get the sales figures those games do on PS360 but in terms of gameplay quality and esp artstyle I think a fully featured FPS Metroid(built on the Space Pirates idea or maybe Dread)made at Retro could compete and cope okay, why not? Wii connect might be an issue but with some care on the servers(like Capcom managed with MH3 apparently)it should be done-there's enough fans of the series already and it would surely get bigger with multiplayer added.
The Core? I think Nintendo should stop focusing on the core all together. I have never seen in my over 20 years of video game playing seen a generation go to as much hell as this one. If you are looking for a creative "core" game with a high level of art and intriguing story, get ready for low sales no matter what system your own and if your costs are to high say goodbye to your job just like the dozens of studios have this generation. Dont' believe me? Look at what sales? Sequels and familiar IP's. Madden, Cod, Halo, Guitar Hero,GT,FF,MGS, Monster Hunter, Ico was a great game and how did that sell? How about Okami on Ps2? Unfortunate but true. Until the casuals start affectign the close of studios if i were Nintendo from a business perspective i wouldn't care much for the core. These are the same people who trade in their used games, rent games, borrow games, mod their systems to get free games, etc. If the core was as powerful as we thought P3 sales would be through the roof, and not just this month, every month since it launched. The Core should not have let the Xbox get below the Wii in price. Nintendo has seen the writings on the wall for their company and it starts and ends with casuals and non gamers. The sad true sure, but the truth none the less.
It's a sad story, Product. True, but sad :(
halo and MW2 ps3 ftw
But we're not talking about EVERY "core" game here are we? FPS games sell like mad on 360 and PS3. All we're asking here is whether Nintendo could have one of their own selling like a Halo or a COD or at least competing feature and gameplaywise. Why wouldn't casuals eventually want new experiences as well? We all started as fairly casual about gaming and few of us would be content now playing the same few games we started with, would we? Why do we just feel that these newer gamers won't want something more in depth when they've been playing the more casual stuff for a while? We all did. We also don't know just how long the Wii noom will last, whether it will change or anything. Ninty's best ideas are the ones where it looks like theu're helping both sets of gamer(like with the "help" button gaming patented for Zelda)-also who's to say that Madworld WOULDN'T have sold like mad if there'd been a demo on the Wii? Many games from 3rd parties have had to live via word of mouth on the console and the continued lack of support for the more mature games from Nintendo make this more common. My seven year old lad spent an age playing Wii sports a year or two back but tired of Sports resort in a few weeks, for example, and now, because he sees me playing them, is into some jrpgs etc-it's often ignorance of products that mean they fail badly on the Wii. People say Ico/Okami failed as PS2 is mainly a casual console but the same was true then , imo,people who aren't avid gamers just didn't know about the games whether they would have liked them or not. It'll be interesting to see if new gamers keep coming in the numbers they have for Wii-I can't see it-and I just think most will jack it in if they don't find new gaming experiences to keep them hooked. "Core" is just a lazy label that saves typing, imo, and used for lack of anything better nuy I don't see there always being a casual/core divide and more a new/older gamer situation.
The short answer is no.. I just traded in my wii
In sales: NO. In quality: No. In Fun: NO. In gameplay: NO. In generic games that never change: Absolutely! Nitendo's been making the same exact games for the last couple of decades. How many pokemon, mario, zelda, and metroid prime games are we going to see before something new and innovative comes along?
No. Wii cannot compete with FPS games. I don't care how much you want to marry Samus... using the pointer to turn is NOT an acceptable solution.
edgeofblade -- If you can't turn with IR/pointer controls, that's on you, not the game. The remote/nunchuck is as close as a console has gotten to mouse/keyboard control. Dual analog has always been clunkier than the PC equivalent. Product -- I only half agree with you. If you are looking for creativity in new IP's, then yes, it isn't the best time. Okami got two shots on the two best-selling consoles of their respective gens, but it was still anemic on the market. But there is innovation in some places in established IP's -- the move from WWII clearly benefited COD4, putting Mario in spherical worlds rejuvenated 3D platformers, Metroid Prime finally plays smooth with a new control scheme, adding some light philosophy to the plot of Bioshock made it truly stand out among FPS games, etc. Plus, in some other thread, I think we came up with 14 first-party core releases from Nintendo this gen. That's a brisk pace. A 50-hour Zelda and a 20-hour Metroid aren't made for casuals.
" How many pokemon, mario, zelda, and metroid prime games are we going to see before something new and innovative comes along?" As long people want them. And innovation does not mean it has to be new from every aspect. Nintendo brought allot innovation with their own franchises along those 20 years. Obviously the avarage " hardcore" gamer here on n4g never played most of the marios of zelda to even see the innovation with in the games. FPS games are called innovative with every new game. Yet from the outside its just a Doom clone isn't it? From the inside differenst story. Same goes for the marios and zeldas. But whatever.
"Can Nintendo compete with Halo 3: ODST and Modern Warfare 2?" mario and pokemon says hi
Along with Zelda.
Along with WII FIT! This game is dangerous man!.... Well, in terms of sales anyway.
He says nothing about Halo or Modern Warefare in that interview
I have 2 disagrees now for noticing Halo and CoD not being in the interview this article is based upon? Righteous.
I just gave you a disagree for disagreeing with the disagrees :D
You son of a b!tch. :P
Okay, first, this is not an article, it's a new piece. Second, the description of this submission makes your point is irrelevant. The main question was, "Do you see yourself really competing alongside those big heavy hitters like Halo 3: ODST and Modern Warfare 2. Or are you selling something entirely different?" And Reggie responded to that. Your point is silly in that you're claiming that if, for example: Someone asks: Do you like cookies? Then someone responds: I like all desserts. You're going to say that the person who responded doesn't like cookies (and didn't respond to the question) just because he didn't mention the word cookies?
Interesting you brought cookies into this, i love cookies. It is unfortunate that journalists like Adam and others in this industry still don't get the Wii and Nintendo. I find everytime someone asks reggie about the "Core" games he reiterates the same wider audience speech. BTW Valay I just like messing with you lol, the best part of the whole interview is actually this sentence: "We are going to contiue to raise the bar, and let our competitors follow the best way they can." Best part because this is exactly Why Nintendo WONT compete. If competitors follow they will simple move in a zigzag pattern where Sony nor Microsoft will know where they will go next. I find it funny how Nintendo showed off the Vitality Sensor at E3 and yet recently Sony has patented an idea where the device will respond to your emotions whether it be scared, tense, etc. Nintendo will continue to have ideas up their sleeves and when the competition uses them Nintendo will simple go to another idea that the video game industry is currently not getting.
No, No, and No. No. As if competing with these games is tough enough, what the Ps3 has coming is gonna blow Nintendo out of the water. Peace out Nintendo. @below Well with all these titles coming out, i don't see the reasoning [or the fun for that matter] for buying a Wii. Its basically not even a game console anymore. Nintendo Wii digital exercise module. "Giving fat people hope all over the world."
What is that by chance?
I almost thought you were serious. Good one. I had a good laugh. Oh, you cant forget about, UC2 Heavy Rain GT5 L4D2 etc... Nintendo has ran its course. Its a mom system.
that's what you said last year you guys sound like broken records watch your self's get kicked in the nads again this year
I'm gonna destroy all your game sales MUAHHAHAH >:D
Wow. FAIL of an article. This isn't even a contest. MW2 will only sell 10,000 cuz of WiiFit. Guaranteed. Same with ODSQUEER. This article is kind of embarrassing... @above SO TRUE!!! @IDetonation Wow ur so gay. And in denial. Go jerk off to ur LAST GEN systems.
Modern warfare sold well over 10 million and halo 3 sold 10 million. Both games will sell more than 10,000 within the first 10 minutes. Your comment was stupid and biased. Also name me one quality game that nitendo has that can compete with anything the ps3 or 360 has coming. And i mean In QUALITY, not sales.
LOL A game with over one million preorders will only sell 10,000 copies because of Wii Fit! Thanks for the laugh.
Yeah. I'm that good >.>
Where's the Borderlands love?
However, remember, when we talk about these games, it means sales...and Borderlands won't sell like these games...unfortunately But i agree, Flashpoint and Borderlands are 2 games i'm far more excited about than these two "sequels"....meh =/
could nintendo ever compete with xbox and playstation games? forget competing with these 2.
NSMB Wii will outsell them both. NSMB DS sold a staggering 15 million units, so that is the expected number for the home edition to reach.
Nintendo still did well when Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare were released. Why should this time be any different?
Nintendo will most likely be number 1 again this year in software and hardware sales. New SMB wii with a new wiifit plus a bunch of stuff thrown in from 3rd parties that kicks butt and a price cut. Sorry kids they thought ahead this time and have a holiday lineup that makes 2008 look like a fluke.
exactly. Nintendo had IPs that outsold Modern Warfare and Halo 3 combined. Mario Kart Wii sold more than Halo 3 by a sizeable margin. NSMB Wii should have no problems replicating that on the 360 version of MW2 and Halo ODST.
Agreed! The Wii will continue to dominate in sales. Even though Modern Warfare 2 and ODST will probably sell more then any Wii game this year it still won't stop Nintendo.
Sales-wise, NSMB will compete. It won't launch as big as MW2 or Halo, but over time, it will accumulate decent numbers. Content-wise, no, Big N isn't competing against those titles, and I'm not saying it's a matter of "core" versus "casual." There are honestly hardcore gamers who just don't play that much FPS. Plus, the FPS genre is crowded to begin with, and N's lone FPS franchise (Metroid Prime) has already seen a (re)release this year.
in terms of quality i dont think they can this year. nintendo pushed out all thier core games early and it wont be until next uear that they recover. if next year is as awesome as it looks i can forgive them for this year
Not this year? Im an xbox fan but also have a wii. There are 2 little games coming out on the wii this year that will outsell odst, uc2, forza3, gt5 and anything else on the ps3 or xbox. NSMB and wii fit 2. How anyone can paint a wii is in trouble/can't compete picture is beyond me.
People are just impatient for core N franchises. Metroid: Other M and Galaxy 2 will be out next year, and we'll probably see whatever Retro is working on, and maybe a flight game from Factor 5. Then there's the next Zelda to look forward to, as well. When you look at all of the great core Nintendo games that are slated to come out for Wii (possibly Star Fox and Kid Icarus, too)...this holiday season is skimpy for first-party titles. But NSMB definitely WILL sell. It won't open large like MW2, but it'll probably end up selling more copies in the long run.
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Since the Wii is already way ahead of everyone else in terms of sales.
not many gamers care about wii today, if it sell or not, nothing would change for core gamers....don't compare apple and oranges.
Everyone thought Nintendo was stupid for releasing Mario Kart so close to GTA4 and that GTA4 was going to signal the death knell to the Wii...LOL! Good times huh? What happened? MK outsold not just GTA combined but every other multiplatform game on competing consoles. The question should be asked if MW2 and Halo can compete with Nintendo.
Reggie said "they have NEVER made M rated games" it was always 3rd parties that made them. Ninty always made games for everyone and nothing has changed. In terms of this definition of competition it is irrelivent to Nintendo. Compete? What? Halo 3 basically stops selling at 10 million while SSBB, MK Wii and SMG are STILL SELLING. In terms of sales these titles out performed MW and Halo 3, or matched , even if it is a long tail definition. Nintendo are in the business of selling to everyone, not a minority. If "casual games" are not competing (Wiifit, etc) then WHY are competitors trying to emulate avatars, mini game fests and quiz titles. Lastly f--- G4, Reggie knows what he's being asked and he answered it clearly. In fact, Adam also knows what he is asking also, the same goddamned questions every single viewer is b--ching about in forums. I like that he tries to ask these questions while pretending to make them sound more business like and strategic in intent, but they are the same complaints.
The problem is that people seem to think "hardcore" is synonymous with "M-rated." I mentioned Mario Galaxy in other threads on here as a core title, and the typical "kiddie plumbers aren't hardcore!"-type of comments followed (nevermind how the difficulty ramps up to get all 120 stars, or how high the production values and overall quality of the game are). It's something I just don't understand. Maybe it's from people who started gaming last gen, when loads of FPS and sandbox games were the norm. Me? I fail to see how a 50-hour adventure game like Twilight Princess isn't "core." And somehow, I doubt some of those folks have beaten -- or even played -- games like Mega Man 9.
I don't see big N competing here. I see Big N doing whatever it has done in the past, without giving a flying f**k. Why should they care about two FPS games, when they do all kinds of games? Remember, Nintendo, while it might look like it, isn't a one trick pony.
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