Blu-ray may not be attractive enough to spark PS3 sales

Sony is betting big on the Blu-ray format to help spur sales of the new Playstation 3, however, early reaction suggests that high-definition format movies may not be attractive enough to spark a $1,000 or $500 investment.
In an article published on Thursday, LA Times Staff Writer David Colker claims that the leap to high-definition flicks is marginal.

"I've looked at Blu-ray and HD DVD on 42-inch and 50-inch screens, which are now popular sizes for home use," he said. "The upgrade in image quality from DVDs was subtle - nothing close to the kind of leap we saw when switching from VHS tape to DVDs in the late 1990s."

[bernie]

The HD-DVD format has just increased its picture quality still further, using new compression technology, it will be included in every HD DVD player including the Xbox360 add-on.great news!

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

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[OutLaw]

So they feel that there isn't much of a leap from DVD format to Blu Ray or HD DVD. So why should people pay all that extra money right now.

[djsimo]

blue-ray = rubbish
hd-dvd=rulz

[Dustin_c_miller2008]

i would rather stick with my color tv at least i know how it works.

[BOSS]

Extra storage space on blue-ray just isnt worth $1000.00 dollars. Or $600 plus $50 dollars in tax and $75 for those blue-ray games! Listen to BOSS.

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

$50-$60 in tax, $60-$90 for a good warrenty, $75 games $600 for the console (the good one). Middle America will buy the PS3 in the masses.NOT!!! lol.

[zypher]

my guess is that Sony is banking on the initial sales of the PS3 to spur Blu-Ray, not the other way around. regardless of whether or not Blu-Ray sells well before PS3, PS3 WILL sell-out when it comes out: that'd be 1 million+ Blu-Ray players in consumer homes, giving Blu-Ray's installed base a significant lead over HD-DVD.

as far as i'm concerned it really doesn't matter. i'm getting a PS3 not because of its games and irregardless of Sony's arrogance. i'm getting a PS3 STRICTLY FOR ITS GAMES. so far what i've seen looks good enough.

[TheMART]

It's not hard to sell out with only 1 PSZero available in the whole city...

[zypher]

you're starting to sound like that ssj04 dude. if you can't respond intellectually to a comment then perhaps you shouldn't respond at all.

[ACE]

you must have poor taste in games then cos theres nothing on that sytem ps3,,,, thats any good at the momment ,, there are good games at launch if you are a sony droid fan who is heavily brain washed.....

and blue ray is yet another good exaple of overhyping from sony mpeg 2 what!!!! hd-dvd is true next gen dvd player with a true next gen codec this is fact

[zypher]

well, since that's your personal opinion it'd be cool if you implied it as such, instead of trying to imply that its the rule that all gamers should go by. gaming is about taste and preference, not Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. the moment you knock someone elses tastes is the moment you make your own open for attack. the "brainwashed Sony fans", as you call them, would beg to differ with your sentiment; and with good reason. already the PS3 looks to offer far more variety in games than the 360. i've had my 360 for a month, and with the exception of GRAW and Oblivion (which isn't NEARLY as deserving of all the praise its getting), there isn't much currently on the system to get excited about. the horizon looks riddled with PC ports and fps (with the exception of Fable 2...and KOTOR 3--oh, pardon me, i meant Mass Effect), and if thats your cup of tea (as it seems to be for most "brainwashed Microsoft fans) then thats fine and dandy. for the record, Heavenly Sword, (the only announced for PS3) Assassins Creed, Lair, Final Fantasy XIII, Mercaneries 2, MGS4, Resistance, Virtua Fighter 5, the next Ratchet and Clank, Naughty Dog's Project etc. all look more tantalizing for the PS3 during this time in its life-cycle than anything the 360 had pre its launch. now you can tout GOW, Bioshock, (the also overhyped) Halo 3, (the lackluster) Prey (played the demo, wasn't all that impressed) etc. as games to get excited about: and guess what, with the exception of Prey you'd be right. but guess what else: three of those games are shooters and three are fps'. thats a severe lack of diversity for my TASTE.

[CAPS LOCK]

how much will the HD-DVD add on cost? does it work out cheaper than getting a ps3?

[REDMOND BOYZZ]

Don't think so but if i decide to get an HD-DVD add-on i will shell out the extra cash, if i don't buy the high grade stand-alone for $500

[omansteveo]

Word from the M$ rep that visits my Gamestop is its gonna cost 99$ for the HD-DVD add-on he said it was just a rumor floating arount his neck of the woods

[Marriot VP]

that'd be straight up worth it. I would wait if it was 200, but 100 is just a killer deal, considering the premium will drop price this year.

[shotty]

I think it would be $200. Come on the computer drive is over $200 and the xbox 360 one is packaged to match the design of the xbox 360. If it's anything less than someone is paying out of their pocket.

[Bishop]

Well Sony's blu-ray format will still have the advantage because it has many more allies then Toshiba's HD-DVD. Dell, Apple and HP are all going to put Blu-ray players in there comptuers and the vast majority od movie studios are sideing with the blu-ray format because of the piracy protection. Sony's blu-ray allies include WB, Paramount, Fox, Sony Pictures, and another 170 or something and thoose who aren't directly supporting blu-ray like Turner and Disney have said that they will support both formats. Sony on paper has the majority of the market over blu-ray. The only reason betamax flopped was because of the lack of support from movie studios and blu-ray won't suffer from this. And no blu-ray movie aren't $50 they are roughly 20 cents on average more then HD-DVD's. So blu-ray movie will be around $20 according to macworld.

[PS3sux360inchWiiWii]

Look at UMD movies and Sony had tons of support for that format and what did movie companies do with it?... this POSSIBLY could happen to Blu-Ray if Hd-Dvd wins out!!!

But I think both formats sound less appealing to me when I hear about HVD... blows both formats out of the water, but still is in development!

The Hd-Dvd add on for 360 if it's $100 Im sold. Anything more, Im gonna wait and see how things pan out!

[specialguest]

HVD is exciting stuff. quote from some article "InPhase Technologies has developed a holographic format they call Tapestry Media, capable of storing up to 1.6TB with a data transfer rate of 120 MB/s" that's massive! right now a huge drawback is its price. The current avaliable reader cost US$15,000 and a single disc is US$120(price of a good hard drive) it's also stated that by the yr 2010, the price will drop to US$100. ouch..still expensive. because of the price, i don't see how it's gonna be a mainstream media anytime soon for the average consumers. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Marriot VP]

enough with the holograpic. It isn't gonna happen. It's neither practical or useful.

[shotty]

HVD will never make it or atleast for the next 30 years. We don't need that much space, I see the government and big businesses using and that's all.

[kingboy]

dvd`s are very still alive but i`ll say it`s gonna take a while to dominate the dvd format..

[96impala]

i agree with kingboy.

[Fat Onion]

Perhaps the reason the picture is not way better is because most if not all movies are NOT shot using a High Def Camera.

[The Real Deal]

Ok two things.

1. It doesn't matter how many studio's support blu ray. If people don't buy them at a frantic rate....Movie studios will stop releasing them on blu ray. I remember every studio supported Laser Discs...lol....And you see what happened with that. It stuck around for a few years. I had like 100 Laser disc movies being since I always wanted the best...But if people don't buy it as an accepted format...it won't work. Sure Ps3 will sell a few million by the end of the year. But I seriously doubt that a majority of those 2 million will buy blu ray movies unless they have a 1080p tv. If they don't have a 1080p tv...there is no sense in getting the more expensive blu ray movie. Now HD dvd on the other hand. You can buy hd dvd movies and play them in your regular dvd player untill you decide to get a 1080p tv and an hd dvd player. Its a much easier transition for the Walmart generation than blu ray. Just watch and see.

2. The Hd dvd player add on the the 360 will be between 100 and 150. It will not be 200 dollars. And there will be an update for your live dashboard that enables 1080p for hd dvd playback. A dvi connector or hdmi connector will be available and they will be 1.3 compliant.

[ACE]

U ARE SPOT ON MATE ....

but try telling this to the sony droids ,,, lol also try telling them about the codecs lol :)

[AuburnTiger]

Honestly the only reason you want blu ray to fail is because Sony backs it up. Every one of your comments are biased, you’re always on the Xbox nuts. Also, how the hell do you know that the HD add on will 100-150? If it was $100 then that’s 80% off the cheapest HD player. There’s no way Toshiba could afford that, and I doubt Microsoft will cover there costs.

In my opinion, one of the main reason Blu ray will overcome HD is the PS3. Hell, by March they're expecting 6 million ps3 in people’s homes by March of 2007 and that is very possible. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure HD-DVD looks damn good but the fact that the Blu ray is in the PS3 gives it a very unfair advantage.

[shoota33]

Exacly!! The only reason these xbot support hd dvd is because MS does.If MS had blu ray and ps3 had hd dvd they would be priasing blu ray.

[Grown Folks Talk]

are expected to have been produced, not in homes. and nice gametime how you changed your avatar to a game that you claim had no bearing in the success of ps2, and will have no affect on the success of the ps3.

[The Real Deal]

I have never said I want Blu ray to fail. Stop being a Fanboy for a minute PLEASE. I was explaining why the odds of it succeeding is slim to none. I have been around long enough to know the formula for a successful format. Its ALWAYS price/value . Walmart sells more dvd players than Best Buy and Circuit city combined. And guess what. Walmart sells the cheap year old models. What does that tell you? That tells you that the Majority of people buy inexpensive. Its the ways of life. The formatt that succeeds will be the one that the average joe accepts. Thats 90 % of the population. I know how much the add on will be because I READ alot. You can come to intelligent conclussions if you read. Why do you care if the hd dvd player sells for 100 to 150? It can because the Hardware that runs it is already in the 360. Stand alone players isn't just the hd drive. There are many other parts that make it up that the 360 already has in it. And yes we understand you hope blu ray will succeed. And yes we understand you "think" it will be because of the 2 million it sells world wide before the end of the year. But having that many ps3's on the market doesn't guarentee blu ray movie sales. Do you understand? If the movies don't sell out, movie studios will stop putting there movies on blu ray. its the same thing that happened to Laser Discs. Every movie studio supported it for a couple years. But when they weren't selling very well companies had to stop making them. The cost of producing them was high and because they were 30 to 45 dollars per movie...people didn't accept them as a whole. Of course your opinion is based soley off of your love for sony and your intentions on getting a ps3. But me, I could care less who wins, I just call it as I see it. And many annalyst seem to agree. Remember this one thing....
"People will have to buy a whole heck of a lot of Blu ray movies in order for movie studio's to keep spending MORE money to make them for that formatt"..and "Think about who will buy a blu ray movie if they don't have a 1080p tv." "Think about the average Joe." "think about if they have the choice...a regular dvd of a movie they want for 16.88 at walmart for their regular tv or hd 1080 i tv, or a $25 to $45 dollar blu ray movie to play on their regular or 1080i tv." now remember, no 1080p tv now accepts a 1080p signal. They upscale. If you don't believe me go to best buy and ask someone. They don't release until the end of the year or beginning of 2007. Then couple that with the fact that less than 5% of the population has an Hd tv at all...thats 1080i and 720 p. I know your love for sony blinds you from the obvious. Thats why I'm the Real Deal. I have no blind faith, I have no factess based opinions. I tell it like it is. And sometimes it rubs fanboys the wrong way. But you will see, and think back, and say "damn the Real Deal dude was right on with his comments."

[AuburnTiger]

So you read a lot huh, funny, I've read tons of articles about this add-on and they all say "price not disclosed". Maybe you could give me the link where you "read" this info. And who said I was a Sony fan boy? Personally I think the Wii is the underdog in this console war and honestly I’m rooting for them.

And holy sh!t man, how many times do you have to bring this 1080p thing up? Just because the Blu is capable of displaying that doesn't mean it can't display in 720p or 1080i. Hell you yourself said that "I can't tell the difference".

Again, arguing with you is like arguing with a teenager who just can't admit when your wrong. Sorry, but you are not Real Enough.

[The Real Deal]

You can't argue with me. I don't argue. I state facts and you can disagree but you can't convince me with your fanboyism. When I said read a lot, I'm not talking about one source saying it WILL be priced anything in particular. I mean I am smart enough to come to an intelligent decision based off of information gathering. Microsoft has stated that the add on with the premium will not exceed either of Sony's packages. So therefore you could reasonably conclude that the price of the add on will be 100 to 150. I say 100 if the price of the 400 dollar unit stays the same. But Its not unreasonalbe that the 360 recieve some sort of price drop by November. It would have been a year since launch. So whether its a 20 dollar price drop or a 50 dollar price drop. Anyway...I hope Nintendo's console does well too. I'm not for Microsoft or Sony. Right now I have the 360 and I'm more than happy with it. But I hope they all do well. That benefits the industry as a whole and us as gamers. Now to your Hd comment. lol...I have to laugh first. You are rooting for Blu ray. You already have stated that. Thats cool. But the odds are heavily stacked against them.

1. Lets say I own a 720p or 1080i tv.....Lets say I'm one of the 5% of people who has it. Hmmmm do I buy a 1000 dollar blu ray player or a 500 dollar hd dvd player. With reviews giving the visual edge RIGHT now to hd dvd. Hmmmm thats a hard one huh? lol.... Oh...movies at Walmart on hd dvd are 19.99 and less. Blu ray is not even stocked at Walmart but at Best Buy they are 25 dollars and up.

2. We won't tell the difference in 1080p until movie studios film in Hi Def.

3. I was number 1 in debate in High School. I can admitt when I'm wrong as rarely as that actually happens. See I don't talk or type information based off of my personal hopes or desires. I base what I say on Facts by people in the industry... lol...But what have you proven? You haven't brought any info to the table as far as your discussion with me. I haven't put you down or said anything about you acting like a teenager. But then you show your age by attempting to bash me. lol..... I'm the Real Deal. And you ain't prepared to debate with me. So go about you business. lol.... I take pride that in my hundred and hundreds of posts...I have never once put anyone down. I state facts and fanboys disagree because it doesn't support their fanboy claims. Its that simple.

[AuburnTiger]

I would hardly call this a debate.

And you can't admit when your wrong and have the time you make sh!t up. Like the so called "Update" for your HD Player that can displayed in 1080p, rigghtttt.

The "real deal" your comments are one sided and strongly biased for the XBOX. Don't get offended but man, your still not real enough. lol

[The Real Deal]

Its called a firmware update. And yes your hd dvd plugs right into the internet and you can download it for free. Why do you care if you aren't getting a hd dvd player? lol... but its true. Anyone on this site can go to Best Buy and ask them. They will tell you themselves. Whats wrong? lol.... Its just hard for you to believe that a 1080p hd dvd player is a better product dollar for dollar to the blu ray player? Does the average Joe want more disc space but the same expected quality for 500 dollars more? lol... Why are you so defensive over Sony and blu ray? Do you have a blu ray player? Do you have a ps3? Have you heard good things about either that doesn't dircectly come from the Sony Lying machine itself? Thought so...lol....Here is a link that talks about the firmware update. I'm the Real Deal.
http://www.thedigitalbits.c...

[The Real Deal]

I will never get offended by you or any of the other Sony Fanboys or Micorosoft bashers flinging of name calling. I understand thats all you guys can bring to the table. You guys are obviously upset and bothered by things just not going sony's way this time. I am not biased. If it seems that I am very very happy with Microsoft...Well, I am. Is that Ok? Am I not suppose to be? lol...Get real. Am I suppose to bash a product that I enjoy? Anyone who is happy with the xbox 360 is a target of name calling by sony fanboys. Why is that? Maybe because everyone is suppose to feel like yall. If someone thinks different than you they must be biased. lol... I don't dislike Sony. I just don't like the decisions they have made this time around. And they will see I'm not alone in that opinion. Get it? Got it? Good.

[AuburnTiger]

Damn man, I believe the knowledge of a Best Buy employee has already been in question before. Would you also believe them if they told the hd discs could be used a floatation devices? Come on man, don't believe everthing you hear.

[The Real Deal]

Here is a copy of your post you made. It clearly shows that not only are you ill informed...you are just as much a fanboy as Gametime. Here is your post word for word...after I will issue my response to your nonsense...lol...I love being the Real Deal.

"YOU SAID" 1. Your right, xbox online has been a real success. Sony is attempting to do same and I think there on the right track by not charging for the service.

"I SAY" XBOX LIVE SIVLER IS FREE AS WELL. SONY HASN'T ANNOUNCED WHATS FREE WITH THERE SERVICE. AND WE ALL KNOW YOU CAN COPY OR ATTEMPT TO COPY BUT YOU CAN'T DUPLICATE. XBOX LIVE HAS EVOLVED IN 6 YEARS AND HAS MICROSOFTS SOFTWARE GENIUS BEHIND IT. WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF SONY CAN EVEN BE IN THE SAME LEAGUE. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS XBOX LIVE IS AN AWARD WINNING SERVICE WITH JUST ABOUT 6 MILLION GAMERS CONNECTED AND WITH LIVE ANYWHERE IT WILL BE CONNECTED WITH PC GAMERS AND CELL PHONES. NO ONE CAN DO THAT BUT MICROSOFT.

"YOU SAY" 2. Yes the rumble feature will be missed but come on, key factors in realism is the visuals and sounds.

"I SAY". ARE YOU SERIOUS. LOL...YES VISUALS AND SOUNDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT I AGREE. BUT RUMBLE IS IMPORTANT TO ADDING TO THE IMMERSION OF A GAME. ANYONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY PLAYED A GAME CAN ATTEST TO THAT. BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. I HAVE POSTED LINKS TO POLLS THAT SAY OVER 80% OF GAMERS THINK TAKING RUMBLE OUT IS A BAD MOVE.

"YOU SAY" 3. This one I call a definite BS on you, who the hell has ever gotten a hand cramp with any controller? Clearly you are exaggerating.

"I SAY". SONY'S CONTROLLER IS NOT GOOD FOR FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS. ITS THE POSITIONING OF THE THUMBSTICKS. ITS TRUE AND OF COURSE YOU WOULD THINK ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT SONY MAKING MISTAKES WOULD BE AGAINST YOUR FANBOYISM... WELL AT LEAST IGN SONY AGREE'S THAT MICROSOFTS CONTROLLER IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME CONTROLLER TO DATE. SEE, NOT EVERYONE WHO LOVES SONY IS BIAS. LOL

"YOU SAY" 4. I would like to know how you are able to predict that same xbox game will cheaper than the ps3's version. Unless your a marketing genius with a crystal ball, your most likely just hoping that Sony version is more expensive.

"I SAY".. UM, THE SAME REASON BLU RAY MOVIES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DVD MOIVES. ITS MORE EXPENSIVE TO PRODUCE BLU RAY DISCS. AND SONY HAS ALREADY OPENED THE DOOR FOR THE GAME PRICES. SONY SAYS "THE PRICE OF GAMES WON'T BE OVER 100 DOLLARS" THEN HE ALSO SAYS "BUT DON'T BE SURPISED IF THEY ARE OVER 60." ...

"YOU SAY" “The lack of having the rumble feature will not effect my decision to the ps3 version”

"I SAY" OF COURSE NOT. LOL...YOU WOULD BUY THE PS3 IF IT WAS JUST AN EMPTY BLACK CASING. THEN WHEN YOU OPEN THE MANUEL AND IF THERE WAS A NOTE FROM SONY SAYING. "I'M SORRY, WE WILL DELIVER THE REST OF YOUR PS3 IN A FEW MONTHS"...YOU WOULD STILL BE HAPPY WITH SONY. BE PROUD AND LET YOUR FANBOYISM SHOW IN YOUR POSTS. AND DON'T BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT. MEANING....DON'T TALK TO ME UNLESS YOU ARE WELL INFORMED AND EDUCATED. I'M THE REAL DEAL.

[AuburnTiger]

There's not storage space of this server to copy and paste all your "#1 debated" comments, which by the way are childless, juvenile and just simply immature. You’re telling me I would just buy an empty casing and have Sony send me the rest of the parts later? Come on, are you running out of stuff to say or my comments must be really pissing you off. Well calm down boy, this is just a place to share comments and opinions, you shouldn’t get so upset over something so unimportant. As you get older you’ll understand, until then enjoy being a 15 yr old.

[The Real Deal]

Thats what I thought. lol....your only response is calling me names....now i'm a childish juvenile thats immature, then i'm a 15 yr old boy. There isn't anything on this site from people like you that would ever upset me....lol....Thats Real.....Sony fanboys like yourself resort to name calling when you can't discuss any of the points you claim. All the points I made you can't agrue so what do you do? You point out the hypathetical comment I made about you getting an empty box from Sony. For you to read my recent posts that blasts everything you say...and then you point out the empty box JOKE...It shows a lot about where your head is at....lol...Thats what you zero in on. Dude, I was give you an example of how You and some other fanboys think, just from reading your fanboy claims. Just know as long as you post your nonesense I will be here to bring the truth out to the light so even if you can't see how you look, everyone else can. Get it? Got it? Good. The reason why I never get mad is because this is fun for me. This is entertainment and informative all in one. I love it. And I've been called all kind of names from Sony Fanboys and I have never once called any of you names. I take pride in that. I have never once said Sony sucks or Microsoft is the best. I just state facts according to Developers or independant editors that write about video games for a living. Then I use common sense and never blindly take One companies side. I don't invest stock in Microsoft, Sony, Or Nintendo. I could care less in who Wins the console war. I am getting all three systems. Right now I only have the 360's as far as next gen goes. And I feel obligated to squash people who lie about it and bash it. For 400 dollars I can honestly say its one of the best 400 dollar investments I have made. Its light years ahead of the original xbox and it rivals my 4000 dollar computer that I'm constantly upgrading every time a new video card comes out. I just spent over 500 dollars for a new video card. I get way more value out of my 360. Thats Real. And I'm the Real Deal.

[AuburnTiger]

Who's calling you names? I only said that your comments are child ness, juvenile, and immature. It's not name calling it's characteristics in your writings. And calling you a 15yr is a fitting description on how you act. Don't be offended, your comments fit you in that age range.

And I know the difference between a joke and a example, but it's obvious you don't know sarcasm.

So, as I read the rest of your comment apparently other "sony fanboys" has called you names, well I hope you don't take it personal. Also you claim to not call other people names and that's probably true. However you do come off as a c0cky asshole, who claims to be rich, swearing that you know everything and believe up and down that you’re "The Real Deal".

I myself have never said anything disrespectful about Microsoft or the XBOX. I think has time goes by we will see games for the damn system will justify your claims of glory and beauty of this XBOX.

So as you say “Get it, Got it, Good” I say “how do you think dem apples”.

[The Real Deal]

YOU SAID "There's not storage space of this server to copy and paste all your "#1 debated" comments, which by the way are childless, juvenile and just simply immature."

I SAY "All I do is quote developers,analysts, and Video game editors. I also implement my own personal experience. Now if my comments are childish and immature, I suppose you think all the many developers and IGN doing a system spec comparisson and reviews and analyst from editors at several game sites are all immature...lol..."

YOU SAID "You’re telling me I would just buy an empty casing and have Sony send me the rest of the parts later? Come on, are you running out of stuff to say or my comments must be really pissing you off."

I SAY "I have wrote hundred word essays full of information that you can't handle...THE TRUTH...and you disect on sentence from the paragraphs and ask if I'm running out of info? lol...TOO FUNNY. Then you say I can't handle what you say? What do you say? All you do is call me names and put me down. That may work in elementary school in getting people uspset...lol...but we are on the internet and your calling me names from behind your desk...You think I care? I don't. It just shows me and anyone reading your posts...where you are at in your life mentally."

YOU SAID "Well calm down boy, this is just a place to share comments and opinions, you shouldn’t get so upset over something so unimportant. As you get older you’ll understand, until then enjoy being a 15 yr old."

I SAY "There you go again calling me names. That won't upset me dude. lol....It just shows who you are and what you are about. And I'm just curious what gave you the impression I was upset? I didn't call you any names, did I? lol.... Let me tell you a lil somthing about me. I haven't been upset about anything over the last 4 years of my life. I am a happy dude. I enjoy life and God. I am thankful for every blessing that comes my way. From waking up in the morning, to having food to eat, from being healthy, to my children, to my job, to my wife, to my life. If my car gets broken into and someone steals my 15,000 dollar stereo system, I'm the guy sho says "thank you God I still have my car. I can always get a new Stereo"...If someone steals my Car I'm the guy who says "Thank you God I still have my home." I am someone who alwasys looks on the bright side of things in life. None of your name calling offends me, angers me, or disrespects me. I understand its your pain that you are dealing with in your life. Thats why you lash out at me. And thats why anyone lashes out at someone. I stay happy. I love to talk as you can tell. And I will make sure the Truth always prevails in forums like this."

[AuburnTiger]

Honestly man what I wrote to you doesn't even seem that offensive. I mean do you really think I was “calling you names” Especially when we're just talking about damn hd receivers. Well look, I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. We should start over, my name is StarCraftrocks and I enjoy playing video games from ANY console.

[The Real Deal]

YOU SAID "However you do come off as a c*cky asshole, who claims to be rich, swearing that you know everything and believe up and down that you’re "The Real Deal".

I SAY " You don't call me names? lol....Its cool. Like I said...you spend your time talking about me on here. I spend my time talking about the articles and posting info from developers, analysts, and Editors. I just flame anyone like you do and other sony fans. I talk about FACTS. It just so happens the FACTS don't coincide with what SONY fans want to believe. I am c*cky. That is true. I think its being from New York. We tend to come across that way. But when you are informed in a discussion and aren't speaking from fanboyism...others may see that as c*cky. But an asshole? lol....I'm an asshole because I am well informed and I always speak the Real Deal on topics? I'm an asshole because I always have links that support what I say? I'm the Real Deal. Just give up with the name calling. You provide No info on anything. You just talk about me. lol....

[The Real Deal]

lol...I didn't take offense to your flamming of me. Lets agree to disagree if it has to do with games or HD. I don't care who wins. We as consumers win when there is competition. I have no problem with you. But I will always let the Truth Prevail.

[AuburnTiger]

Do you put your light saber in the air when you say "I will always let the Truth Prevail"?

[ironwolf]

http://www.technologynewsda...

[AuburnTiger]

Maybe I misread this article, but this RD-A1 is a new model and not a firmware updated HD DVD player. Also this RD just upconverts to 1080p, but since dlps today upconvert to 1080p also, it really doesn't matter. Also, This badboy in Japan will cost 398,000 yen, that's damn 3,470.53 USD, but then again is a HD Tivo as well.

[Cyclonus]

ALL HD-DVD discs are encoded for 1080p.

[The Real Deal]

Is look on the back of a HD dvd movie at Walmart and you will see 1080p as the movie display resolution. So Cyclonus is right and the articles reviewing the hd dvd is right. Lets move on. BLu ray 1080 p, Hd dvd 1080 p, No tv out right now accepts 1080p true source signal...and all 1080p tvs out right now upscale. blu ray is twice as much as hd dvd and blu ray has more storage capacity. But moive quality is suppose to be the same. Reviewers have stated hd dvd looks better. And hd dvd's will be featuring Film Grad Tech...blu ray doesn't have that. So it should be interesting.

[jedicurt]

so you do alot of reading and all, and i just have a quick question cause you said something that just doesn't seem right to me. "Now HD dvd on the other hand. You can buy hd dvd movies and play them in your regular dvd player untill you decide to get a 1080p tv and an hd dvd player. Its a much easier transition for the Walmart generation than blu ray."

I was under the impression that current dvd players could not play hd-dvd's, hence why hd-dvd players are needed. now hd-dvd players will be able to play standard dvd's as will blu-ray players. but i was not aware of any standard dvd player, even with a firmware update that could play hd-dvd's. now i might be wrong, but could you please explain this statement to me in more detail??

[pbo2m3]

Why debate over something that we have no control of. To me it doesn't matter if HD DVD or Blu RAY wins. I'm happy with DVDs at the moment. To spend a few hundred dollars on a new player to me isn't worth it, just so I can get a little better picture quality. I can see if there was a huge difference between HD DVD/BLU RAY that would justify the cost, but from what I've been reading it's not worth it. As far as the 360 and PS# goes. I already have a 360 and am very happy with it. Now the PS3 hasn't shown me anything that tells me it worth $200 more. Maybe when the price goes down or they start having better games then I'll get it, but until then I'll just wait to see what happens. I'm a fanboy of games and not systems as we all should be. Anybody who says that there aren't any good games for the 360 is lying thru their teeth and to themselves. Same goes for the PS3. There are currently 2 games that I think look pretty good. But that's just me. They are Resistance fall of man and Assassin's Creed. Now I will not buy a $600 system for 2 games especially when Assassin's Creed could make it the 360. That's enough of me rambling on. The best thing about Sony and Microsoft is the compatition. without it there wouldn't be any reason to improve games or systems.