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MIG: What Makes A Good Console

MyInsideGamer writes:

"We look at what makes a good console? We look at all the obvious, and not-so-obvious things that make up a good console!

We all want our perfect console. Mine would be a console with a blu-ray drive, Xbox Live and a Wiimote. Not likely to happen, but these features all make a good console. So, what else makes a good console?"

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Sunny_D3785d ago

Good hardware and good(exclusive)games that come out at a healthy pace. Yup, Ps3 you're doing fine. :)

vflhp3785d ago

Yeah exclusive games are a big plus

-MoOkS-3785d ago

PS3 has an underpowered graphics card, confirmed by crytek employee
And what good exclusive games does ps3 have? MGS4 what else?

Games is what makes a console good. Not an uneeded expensive disc format or pointless multimedia functions.

vflhp3785d ago

Well there's Killzone, Uncharted, MAG, Gran Tursimo, Heavy Rain . . .

Let me now if you want to know more ;)

ATY3785d ago

"Mine would be a console with a blu-ray drive, Xbox Live"

That is hilarious. PS3 owners...anyone want:

50 dollar a year online fees adding up to some 250 dollars over 5 years. 500 dollars wasted if you own the console for a full 10 years.

Laggy P2P networking instead of the lan-like feeling of Sony's PSN dedicated servers?

Tiny game sizes. 10 player or 16 player games instead of 40, 64, or 256 player Holy Grail of online shooters, MAG?

Instead of the amazing Home online world with its over 8 million users and massive support of all the major publishers and developers, some dopey Nintendo Mii ripoff?

Ken Kutagri nailed it almost perfectly with the PS3. The man is the god of console hardware design:

* Insane graphical power

* Amazing reliability

* Silent operation

* Easy and cheap harddrive upgrades

* Internal powersupply

* USB connections for standard keyboard hookup

* Blu-Ray 25 or 50 gig storage format

* Bluetooth

* Slot loading drive

The only thing I could possibly think of the PS3 needs are:

* A couple USB ports on the back

* Flat top like the PS2 so you can set controllers and game on it

FlipMode3785d ago

Mooks your arrogance is amazing.

Rigmaster3785d ago

"PS3 has an underpowered graphics card, confirmed by crytek employee"

You can't possibly be so completely off in fantasyland to not grasp just how sad and pathetic you look clinging to that tired old Xbox fan talking point.

The gap between the PS3's graphics and the 360's is so enormous now in 2009 that top ten lists have been putting a token multiplatform games on the list out of pity for 360 owners.

This is the first console gen where a console has to totally annihilated its competition graphically as the PS3 has the 360.

Games with graphics that were claimed 'impossible CGI level' like Killzone 2.

GT 5 running a much more advanced lighting and rendering engine at DOUBLE the resolution of the 360's big racing game.

We now effectively have three graphical generations at the same time with the gap between the Wii and the 360 being roughly as big as the gap from 360 graphics to the PS3's.

-MoOkS-3785d ago

Killzone has a mediocre campaign and terribly unbalanced multiplayer. How is it good? ITS NOT

I enjoyed Uncharted, but there is no replay value. It not worth buying if you only complete it once.

MAG is crap

Gran Turismo hasn't been an AAA title since 2001, so no, it's not good

Heavy rain? It's not out yet and I highly doubt the little gameplay that it has will be good.

I ask again, what good exclusives?

-MoOkS-3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

You do know that Cry engine 3 looks best on the 360? and that looks better than ANY ps3 game, present or near future.

Your logic is very flawed. How is it possible that the 360 somehow runs the best looking game engine better than the ps3, if it is a generatiopn behind? bwahahaha

I suggest you go and look at the cry engine 3 video comparisons.

EDIT - @ vflhp

The MAG beta is out i have played it. It's hardly what I would call good.

vflhp3785d ago

How can you say MAG is crap - it's not even out yet, or complete so leave that until the final product is released.

All your points are worthless Mooks, and it is sad at how you cling on to the 360 which is falling apart bit by bit.

josuttis3785d ago

Total meltdown.

This is fun to watch...

FlipMode3785d ago

Well since the guy said the engine runs best on PS3 your logic is pretty flawed.

Did you even watch the Dev video?

IcyJoker1873785d ago

The one that I don't have to keep sending for repairs.

And good games.

ultimolu3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

(1) RELIABILITY (meaning that it lasts more than a year and doesn't die the minute you buy it)
(2) EXCLUSIVE GAMES (real exclusives)
(3) RELIABLE ONLINE PLAY

And -MoOks-, I believe you're in the wrong zone. Not only are you off topic but you're purposely starting a flamewar.

Good going guy, good going.

Unicron3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

What good exclusives does the 360 have Mooks? I'd love to hear this...

Halo 3 has a mediocre campaign and terribly generic multiplayer. How is it good? IT'S NOT!

I enjoyed Gears, but there is no replay value. It not worth buying if you only complete it once.

Reach is crap.

Forza hasn't been an AAA title since ever, so no, it's not good.

Alan Wake? It's not out yet and I highly doubt the little gameplay that it has will be good.

I ask again, what good exclusives?

I also love your humping of the CryEngine... when Crysis has been out on the PC forever. But hey, I thought 360 owners didn't need "leftovers?" Make up your mind, you're horrible at trolling.

poindat3785d ago

"PS3 has an underpowered graphics card, confirmed by crytek employee
And what good exclusive games does ps3 have? MGS4 what else?"

I'm not even going to bother replying to that. It's the same as saying "The 360 has no cell so it's underpowered, and the only good exclusive game is Halo 3."

"Killzone has a mediocre campaign and terribly unbalanced multiplayer. How is it good? ITS NOT"

If Killzone had a mediocre campaign, then 75% of other games' campaigns must be horrid. The multiplayer is right up there with Halo, IMO. I'm not a multiplayer gamer though, and that is fully your opinion so I can't comment on this too much.

"MAG is crap"

Have you played the retail release yet? I didn't think so.

"Gran Turismo hasn't been an AAA title since 2001, so no, it's not good"

Two problems here: First, you think that a game has to be "AAA" to be good. You must not get to play a whole bunch of games then. I feel sorry for you and all the stuff you miss out on.

And 2nd, Gran Turismo hasn't been a AAA title since 2001 because there's only been 1 full release... That managed to get an '89' on metacritic? One single point away from being "AAA" is close enough in my books. You missed out on one of the BEST racing sims on the PS2. By the way, it is good... very very good indeed.

"Heavy rain? It's not out yet and I highly doubt the little gameplay that it has will be good."

We barely know ANYTHING and you are already making silly judgements like this. Can you see into the future? Have you played Farenheit? Let me guess, no and no. Wait until reviews start coming in to judge the game, until then, f*ck off.

"I ask again, what good exclusives?"

If you need to ask this in 2009, you obviously are forcing ignorance upon yourself or you just plain have bad taste... Oh wait, I forgot... THE ONLY "GOOD" TO YOU GAMES ARE ONES THAT SCORE HIGHER THAN A 90. Once again, you're missing out.

"You do know that Cry engine 3 looks best on the 360? and that looks better than ANY ps3 game, present or near future."

Have you played a game using the Cry Engine 3? No? Well then how are you saying this based on some screenshots and demonstration vids? Oh look, there you go again with your soothsaying attitude. You can't see into the future, so give it up.

P.S. From reading your ridiculous comments and looking at your avatar, I find it very difficult to take you seriously.

Serg3785d ago

Mooks I got to hand it to you, if I would be that stupid I would probably forget how to breathe by now.

-MoOkS-3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

Im not going to answer that question, if you were a gamer you would know what good exclusives it has.

Halo 3 has generic muliplayer? you do know that halo 2 pretty much created the platform of which all other console fps multiplayer games try and live up to? it's far from generic, it is original, fun and addictive....more than I can say for any ps3 exclusive i've played.

Gears has no replay value? heard of achievements? you know, the thing sony copied and called trophies. Both titles have indepth multiplayer modes plus co-op. If you call that no replay value, then you must not play any ps3 games....

Forza has been an AAA title since it was released. Meta critic average is above 90 for both titles, more than i can say for GT's latest outings. Forza is currently the best racing franchise on the market. Do you even know what an AAA quality game is?

Whats crysis got to do with anything? I'm talking about a game engine, not a game

Stop trying to argue with me. You make yourself look stupid and unknowledgeable.

EDIT - @ pointdat

How am I a hypocrite? I am a gamer, I own a ps3, and I KNOW MGS4 is the only good exclusive on the console. I just asked the question because I knew no ps3 fankid would be able to prove me wrong, and thought it would be funny.

EDIT - @ unicron

I know what good exclusive ps3 has - mgs4, that is it.

Online multiplayer, goldeneye and perfect dark dont even compare to halo 1's multiplayer, let alone halo 2's online mp.

When i played uncharted there was no trophies. hahahaha sony hadnt copied achievements at that stage. I can only speak from experience, and from my experience, it had no replay value.

stop trying to argue with me, your petty comebacks have no substance.

poindat3785d ago

"Im not going to answer that question, if you were a gamer you would know what good exclusives it has."

Hyyyyyyypocriiiiite....

And you're right, we shouldn't be arguing with you. After posting that big huge rebuttal above, I realized that you are nothing more than a mindless troll.

These creatures can't be reasoned with, people.

IcyJoker1873785d ago

Of course gears has no replay value, the online is laggy and boring and the story was lame.

Unicron3785d ago

Aw, starting out a rebuttal with name calling? Pity.

If YOU were a gamer, you'd know what good exclusives the PS3 has.

Created the platform? What are you 12? Go play Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, or any of the better console FPS out there, please. I've had far more fun with Halo 2 than I ever did with Halo 3.

Gears has achievements? Sony copied with trophies? Weird, so Gears + Achievements = replay. Uncharted + Trophies = noreplay? Thanks for that "logic" jump there buddy.

GT's not AAA? Hmmm... okay. I'll just ignore the series that outsold Halo then. Cuz sales don't matter now!

Oh, so you're arguing over a game engine, with no gameplay or final programming put in. Brilliant. Really smart there.

You're right, I'll stop arguing with you, seeing as you do a great job of utterly owning yourself child.

ReservoirDog3163785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

Well at least you admitted MGS4 was good.

But to answer your question,
Resistance series,
Ratchet and Clank,
Uncharted 2 will undoubtedly be great,
Valkyria Chronicles is beyond great,
LittleBigPlanet,
God of War 3 will be good but I don't care for hack n slash games.
Killzone 2 is very good and I don't even like multiplayer much in general.
Demon's Souls is apparently very good.

I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of.

LiL T3785d ago

WOW! I don't know what else too say but you have got to be the dumbest person on this.....well anywhere. Do you actually think before you type. I will admit to getting in arguments with a couple people on this site but at least they were smart. That is all.. I will let you get owned by everybody else on here...Oh wait you already got owned.

IcyJoker1873785d ago

"How am I a hypocrite? I am a gamer, I own a ps3, and I KNOW MGS4 is the only good exclusive on the console. I just asked the question because I knew no ps3 fankid would be able to prove me wrong, and thought it would be funny"

How can anyone prove an opinion wrong? Man you are not very smart are you?

Blitzed3785d ago

The way you love the 360, you would swear that console gives you a handjob every night!

On a completely unrelated note, if you ever plan on selling that 360, I would be interested.

Unicron3785d ago

Uh oh guys, looks like I can't beat Mooks in an argument! I should take his approach of shoving my fingers in my ears and going la la la la.

ultimolu3785d ago

Good job using multiple accounts -MoOks-. Anyone who disagreed with you received a bunch of disagrees for no reason at all.

Unicron3785d ago

Kinda sad that he cares that much about disagrees. Oh no! I must be wrong because a troll disagreed with me! UH OH!

ReservoirDog3163785d ago

You know, that's probably true. Which is kinda sad.

beans3785d ago

What so people can't agree or disagree anymore without them being multiple account users? Did you ever think maybe not everybody agrees you?

Knightrid8083785d ago

What suunyd said plus a company that strives on bringing us new and innovative games.

-chaz-3785d ago

@Rigmaster

"We now effectively have three graphical generations at the same time with the gap between the Wii and the 360 being roughly as big as the gap from 360 graphics to the PS3's."

I've heard some pretty deluded fanboy bs on this site, but you really take the cake on that one. Do you really expect anyone to believe that? Next you'll be claiming that that CGI Killzone trailer was real...

And to address your other comment (posted under ATY)There are plenty of gamers out there who don't mind paying a small fee every year for decent online performance and voice chat that you can actually understand. If PSN and its dedicated servers are so great, why do so many of them lag worse than Live? Hell, LittleBigPlanet is practically unplayable online.

ultimolu3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

Hey beans, how about someone disagrees and says WHY they disagree instead of being ignorant and slamming the disagree childishly? I have no qualms with people disagreeing with me but being a child about it shows insecurity.

But who am I kidding? This is N4G, where the usual suspects get away with stealing bubbles and disagreeing for stupid reasons.

And -MoOks-, thanks for PMing me and showing you do have a multiple account.

http://www.n4g.com/up/90300...

There you go everybody.

NotSoSilentBob3785d ago

You must have some crappy internet, cause Ive got a 5mb connection and have no trouble playing LBP or any other game on PSN. When I torrent things then I get some lag but only then do I get any hint of this "lag" that you claim makes games unplayable. Go troll the open area, its been proven that the PSN is more reliable then Live

HolyOrangeCows3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

I wonder what he's got to say?

Oh wait, no I don't. Because he has an undying devotion to anything Xbox related.

-chaz-3784d ago

@NotSoSilentBob

Nope, my internet connection is pretty amazing (FIOS) Got my PS3 and 360 hooked up to the same connection, Live is significantly in both matchmaking and performs better during online play. Anyone who says that "PSN is more reliable then Live" is full of sh!t - take your BS trolling to the Open Zone please.

Go visit the LittleBigPlanet forums sometime, there are *hundreds* of posts there asking Media Molecule to fix the horrible lag problems, so don't tell me that it's playable online - it's not.

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54percent3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

yeah but they didn't put the real points of a good console:

54.2%
640p
lazy devs
greedy devs
fat devs
kids online
pc available titles
paid for anything content
ads for gold users
no free online gaming
old arcade titles sold like new titles

...

oh wait...

THE MAX SPEED 213785d ago

why an article for this?

That question is the Essence and Base of video gaming.

what makes a good console?

HardWare
+
The Games

no online
no mp3 mp4 mp5 or whatever they release each 5years.

vflhp3785d ago

There's an article for this to go into detail of what makes a good console. It's not as simple as good hardware and software, there is consoles out there with these already,

We want to know what makes the ultimate console.

dalibor3785d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

Here's what would make a console bad*ss:
1. The controller has to be bad*ss
2. The games have to be bad*ss.
3. Reliability has to be bad*ss(1% return rate)
4. The interface has to be easy to access, look vivid & sound bad*ss
5. Finally the online community is mature people who don't brag or say dumb sh*t or make weird noises or have their music blasting through the mic, now that would be bad*ss.

corywebb933785d ago

KNow thats a good console

Iff you want to look at a bad console look at the ps3

vflhp3785d ago

You seem to have put the wrong console in that message ;)

Just thought I'd let you know

Sunny_D3785d ago

Yeah I agree with Cory. The PS3 is a [email protected] console.

vflhp3785d ago

Yeah the PS3 is the console "that killed your wife and two kids", isn't it? You made a fool of yourself in that article, let's not let it happen again!

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vflhp3785d ago

Good for you having two accounts LoL

54percent3785d ago

and I think this will explain it all

ultimolu3785d ago

...You seem to be confusing the two. The 360...you see that's the console that sets homes on fire. The PS3 purrs like a kitten and controls like a beast.

vflhp3785d ago

Haha! Just what I was seeing in my head! LoL

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Spike473785d ago

Killzone 2 was awesome whether you like it or not, the reviews say so. Uncharted 2 is coming out soon, along with GT5, MAG, and God of War 3.
The xbox360 has what? Another Halo game? That and a game I can play better on my PC?

vflhp3785d ago

Not just Halo, they have the occasional GoW aswell haha

NineteenSeventyNine3785d ago

@ Spike

The XBox has Forza 3, Halo: ODST, L4D2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Mass Effect and that's just within the next six months. Thanks for playing, though.

lh_swe3784d ago

Well what about GT5, Ratchet & Clank ACIT, God of War III, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, MAG all within the next 6 months and looking at the PS3's 2009 line-up thats impressive.

Both have a great line-up face it, it's sad that you can't face that, really!

NineteenSeventyNine3782d ago

Guess what? I never said jack about the PS3s lineup. I was only responding to that one mongoloid's comment who said that the 360 basically had no games. Perhaps you will now think before you type?

lh_swe3782d ago

All you do is bash it without any thought to how biased you sound.

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