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Xbox 360 Dev HD Guidelines Abolished. How Will This Affect the PS3?

Eddie of PS3Blog.net writes: "Previously, Microsoft had a development rule for all Xbox 360 games, multiplatform and exclusive alike, that all games must be a minimum of 1280 x 720 or 720p natively with AA or anti aliasing.

Only one game to my knowledge was given the approval to ignore this rule and that was Halo 3 which ran at 640p natively.

Sony never implemented or enforced this rule so it gave devs a little freedom to either put effort in other areas or just simply cut corners."

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The-Warranty4040d ago

It will hinder it even more.

Blaze9294040d ago

I'm not too sure why this rule was dropped but as long as we dont see alot of games/developers beginning to be lazy and stop making their games HD then fine with me. However is everyone just decides "oh there are not alot of HDTVs in gamer's homes yet so why bother" then I will be upset. Might have to be a feature now on game boxes, "Game outputs in High Definition Native"

Just stupid...only bad things might come from this. Maybe even...*gulp*...480p games now O_O

raztad4040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

@blaze

That is quite scary. 480p = Wii resolution. Next in line (sub HD) COD:MW2 and ODST.

Lower resolution means less sharp graphics. I'm sure Sony's first/second pary games will keep 720p+ but multiplat games not so much.

Elven64040d ago

If the PS3 didn't have these restrictions before, why would it hurt them when the competition doesn't have them anymore

7ero H3LL4040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

anybody reading the blog?

Eddie-

"Sony never implemented or enforced this rule so it gave devs a little freedom to either put effort in other areas or just simply cut corners.

My theory is that this is the exact reason that alot of multiplatform titles look better on the 360. I don’t believe that 4 years into this gen that developers still don’t understand the PS3 or that one has a significant gain over the other."

Darrin-

"“alot of multiplatform titles look better on the 360″ Which games are you thinking of? I’ve heard some people say there are a few specific soccer games where this is true, but even for things like Half-Life 2 and FEAR (the most widely touted examples of PS3 multiplatform inferiority) the differences were really obscure… GTA4 is a big one (640p on PS3 vs 720p on 360 with comparable frame rates) but that’s about it. Most everything else is identical."

eddie-

"Well most recently Ghostbusters is a prime example. The up and coming Bayonetta also is looking poorly on the PS3 at the moment.

Looking it up, It appears to have been 960 x 540. So it seems only a few games were given the approval.

If you check out Eurogamers comparison, out of 122 games on the basis of framerate, resolution, loading times and graphics effects, 74 are better on the 360, 38 tie, 10 better on PS3."

ChrisE-

"Nice post Jimmy! You forgot a big one in that which is Metal Gear Solid 4 which runs in a sub-HD resolution yet it looks gorgeous.

People are making a big deal out of this. If the developers start slacking the fans are going to give them a ear full and not buy their product. No different than it has been."

it's seems eurogamer and beyond3d is their source of info.......so why don't people just approve beyond3d whenever they discover a major game going sub hd, cause a majority of these guys are quoting from b3d.

Shadow Flare4040d ago

If developers were ok with making their games for 360, then microsoft would have left that rule in place. But its the fact microsoft took away the rule that means developers are finding it difficult to hit 720p on 360. Just like 360 developers are finding dvd so limiting. You'd think microsoft's flagship title would have been at least 720p. Sony may never have enforced that rule, but at least their flagship game can hit 1080p. 60fps. 1000 cars. 1 disc. No sweat.
360, the console that stops giving and keeps holding back.

MGSR THE HD VERSION4040d ago

"1080p. 60fps. 1000 cars. 1 disc. No sweat."

wow, those numbers look damn good on paper, why don't you care to show what this "1080p, 60fps, 1000 cars" game looks like?

Shadow Flare4040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

......uh, its Gran Turismo 5, lol what a numbnut. Those numbers do look damn good on paper. It looks damn good in action too

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

Blaze9294040d ago

Well Microsoft was the only reason alot of multi-platform games were required to be at least 720p. Since now that no one is forcing developers to do so, what's to stop them from making HD games anymore? That is why it also affects PS3 "multi-platform" games.

talltony4040d ago

COD4 (360) 1024×600p 2xAA
COD4 (PS3) 1024×600p 2xAA
Project Gotham Racing 3: 1024×600 360
Tomb Raider: 1024×600 360
Perfect Dark Zero: 1138×640p – 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1040×584 AA – 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1280×720 – PS3
Oblivion (360): 1024×600 (PS3 version is full 720p)
Def Jam: Icon (PS3) 1152×648
The Darkness Demo: 1024×576 PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 600p – PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 720p – 360

NewZealander4040d ago

if developers need to use this in order to find the sweet spot and reduce screen tear jaggies or frame rate issues in more graphically intensive games then im all for it.

badz1494040d ago

how's MGS4 a sub-HD game when it runs at 1024x768? that's 48 more lines than 720P! but I agree that games should be at least 720P and that's already the sweet spot (at least for consoles) why going backwards? is this because the Wii which only supports 480P is selling like crack or games such as Halo3 and CoD4 which are not even touching 700P are selling the most? if games start to go sub 720P, there's no point in having larger HDTV's because upscalling always worst than native!

Richdad4040d ago

He is just bluffing audience if it was the reason for better graphics of 360 in multiplatform MS would have not dropped it, ever.
But yeah good way to gain popularity.

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mrv3214040d ago

Doesn't COD 4 run below 720p?

Blaze9294040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

It does and that is another game Microsoft gave a pass to.

EDIT:

Ok a disagree?...really? How about you (whoever) go check your damn facts before going off on the disagree button wildly. Call of Duty 4 was not made at 720p natively.

Information Minister4040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

So do Tomb Raider - Underworld, Ninja Gaiden 2, a number of launch games (including Perfect Dark and PGR3) and the champion of sub-HD gaming Star Ocean 4, among other games.

Same goes for the PS3. There's a list here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

Simon_Brezhnev4040d ago

well i'll be pretty pissed if ps3 ported games start being 420p

The Great Melon4040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

lol, the Wii has more lines then. Highly doubt that developers would go that low.

Omega44040d ago

Why would this even make any difference its not like the PS3 even had this rule in the first place, if it did COD:MW2 and a lot of other games would be exclusive to the 360

mrv3214040d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA.... tales of vesperia wants a talk with you.

Sure the PS3 is complicated but if we compare a PS3 exclusive to a 360 one we'd find the PS3's ones look better, let's see Gears of war 1/2 vs Uncharted.... Uncharted wins... Uncharted 2 is overkill.

Omega44040d ago

Why would TOV want to talk to me? Does it have a higher resolution than the 360 version or something?

mrv3214040d ago

More content etc... prehaps due to more hardware space.

Oh and the fact it's gone multiplatform.

One more thing, the news is about the 360 lowering it's strandards why are you mentioning the PS3?

Omega4- 'No need to get so touchy guys i was just stating a fact. Sony obviously didnt test 3.0 well enough, i mean you would have thought they would at least test their own 1st party games but obviously not.

Plus why are you guys even bringing up the 360 in a PS3 story, completely irrelevant'

Your bringing up the PS3 in a 360 article. HA, you htpocrytical fanboy who's ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance.

Omega44040d ago

Urm did you even read the title?

"Xbox 360 Dev HD Guidelines Abolished. How Will This Affect the >>> PS3<<<?" Can you read PS3 its even in the PS3 section, man you are silly lol.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with anything, this story is talking about resolutions not more/less content due to less space. You do know HD stands for High Definition and not Hard Drive right? Cause i think that might be where your going wrong.

mrv3214040d ago (Edited 4040d ago )

Looks at the agrees, I believe you loose as a general stand point and no matter where I come I still beat you.

zeeshan4040d ago

@Omega: Of all the fanboys, you are the one who makes the least sense. That's like, you are at rock bottom and well, you really need to grab a PS3 so you could enjoy the best of both the worlds and stop complaining about stuff you don't even own!

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Mr Bean Laden4040d ago

yet it's PS3 developers striving for the best they can with the new tech in the PS3, but it's not like the 360 developers have a lot of room to work with DVD9 and tech not as good as the PS3.

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