Infinity Ward recently created a new patch for Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare. What was it, and why has this "ticked off" gamers?
How can you complain about it if u cheat? I don't see anything bad about this patch.
But people can pull the trigger quicker than the patch allows. So you in effect stopping people with skill from being as skillful.
i cant even play the game anymore :/ whenever i try to join a game or party i get "downloading game settings" and it just stays on that screen.
unless you like arcadish games then this is fine.... nothing wrong with this patch
Gears of War 2 need a patch for its hammerburst modded control cheaters can unleash all ammo at once on a target relly frustrating.
Smurf, this's a constant pain even before the patch, but it's easy to fix, restart your router. Gray, COD4 isn't even 'trying' to be realistic.
i've tired it. restarted the router, changed from wireless to wired, etc. cant get it to work.
I think this patch is long overdue. Is sucks that it slows down the legit players with a fast trigger finger, but let's face it, the number of modders far and away exceeds skilled players who really love using semi's. COD4 has been plagued by these idiots, and the only blame for this lays at there feet. I hope they feel there way-overpriced cheat controller was worth it. Hopefully, they implement this in MW2, with maybe a slightly shorter delay to try and appease those of us skilled enough to fire that fast.
i had the exact same problem as you.. i went to restart my router AND modem... Leave them both unplugged for 30 seconds and it should work.. i can't believe that worked.. cause i could play killzone2 no problem.. anyhow.. good luck and let us know if it works..
How does spraying with a pistol take skill?
I scrimmed with guys who used scripts for this on the pc. It absolutely makes no difference skill wise in a scrim or match. What does take skill is consistent 1click's. 1 shot 1 kill. Do console gamers suck that much to the point where they'd need this?
In Short, Yes, yes they do.
that sucks!!! i always use the G3 and my finger is pretty fast!!! legit!!!no cheating especially with the G3!!!! Man this sucks!!!....wait i dont even play COD4 anymore.lol. but if i did this would just ruin it for me.boo.
@1.3 Martyrdom is unrealistic. You know what else is unrealistic? Getting shot 5 times, then hiding behind a crate, then getting shot 5 times, then hiding behind a crate, then... you get it. This game isn't an advanced murder simulator. It's a video game.
martyrdom is that it is realistic if the person has the grenade in their hand with out the pin while shooting, and when they die they drop the nade, that is the gist of it.
With the amount of cheaters in Cod4 online recently, they probably made up a quick fix without thinking it all the way through. I wonder how their support on CoD4 will be when MW2 drops?
Weapons balancing anyone? It doesn't really matter if you cheat or not, when the semi-auto weapons fire too fast, they create a severe advantage and you end up with gameplay that is unbalanced. IW released a patch intending to balance things a bit. Personally, I like using the weaker weapons. One, because I want to get all the challenges (which many of you have probably already done). Two, because it's a challenge. If you're angry, maybe you should aim a bit more carefully with the fewer shots you have.
If you leave because of this patch your either a cheater or need to grow up!
Man, things like this makes me embarrassed to be a gamer. Whatever happen to the good old days when you just played a game? No constant b*tching and whining about every tiny minuscule change.
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@1.14 100% of the time though? Yeah, it can be explained realistically, but it's not realistic, in my eyes.
It also means that no matter how fast you pull the trigger, its only going to fire so fast.
I can do the 6 Burst M16 Shot Now :)
i see nothing wrong with this patch. its a good thing because it reduces cheaters. and who cares if you cant shoot the gun as fast because if you are accurate at shooting you wont need to shoot so fast anyway
I agree with you completely. It just means that it's more "realistic" and forcing you to be more skilled. I personally don't play online but I definately do think that this is a good thing. One you get rid of hackers and two you make it so people can't take "advantage" of the controls by spamming, which you could argue is a form of hacking. It just makes it more realistic, even, and more simpler gameplay.
I am ambivalent about the patch as I haven't played the game in some time. But it is not realistic. Unless in a move to break contact, such as an Australian Peel, even Elite units engage with semi-auto fire. The standard is to double tap each target and then index the next target. When the last target is down you re-index previous targets. In more extreme cases a failure drill is used. A failure drill is where the target fails to go down so you fire a double tap center mass and a third rapid fire round to the head. A well trained person will make this sound almost like a 3 round burst. There is a big difference between a double tap and what is known as a controlled pair. A controlled pair is two single shots separated by time as the sight picture is realigned. In a double tap you use one sight picture for both shots. Though a controlled pair is slower it is still faster than 5 seconds when conducted by a well trained individual. This phrase: Pop pause Pop takes longer to read than a controlled pair does to be fired. IW's intent was sound but their execution is flawed.
this issue id have isn't with double tapping it's more with when people use the controller in such a way that allows them to get around certain things. Kind of like a hacker using software to get around something but instead your using hardware (the controller) to get around something. I.E. spamming the hell out of a button.
The fact is now you can no longer double tap. If you can't do that then it certainly isn't realistic. It isn't realistic to fire single shots together as in a double tap with a .5 second pause unless you are Sniping. Even then with systems such as an SPR-80 it may occur you are in a situation where you are rapidly engaging short range (300m or less) targets. There isn't an SPR-80 in the game, I am merely pointing out that even with sniping the right situation requires faster than .5 second paused shots. You said that IW's patch made things more realistic and that isn't the case. Preventing double taps and even controlled pairs removes realism. Yes it stops the hackers but it removes realism. Having to use full auto weapons if you want more than 1 round every .5 seconds certainly is far outside the realm of realism. What IW, like most other devs fail to realize is that situations balance a game, not weapons. There was a better way to handle this and IW blew it.
Morganfell it's POINT 5 seconds, as in, half a second. Still a little long but not as extreme as you're making out!
I thought it was .5 second.. It's decent, imo, I have a friend with a modded controller, and I hope he's crying over this. :)
The average reaction time is .30 seconds, only .20 seconds off of the .5 seconds. Thus this really should be much of an issue
I know it is POINT 5 seconds. Excuse the punctuation. I am not being extreme as .5 seconds is the difference between life and death. And I meant to say - and have edited in the point - you conduct a failure drill in less than .5 seconds. And the reaction time you mention is for the unskilled. Skilled military shooters are a bit faster. It's machts nichts as the issue isn't reaction time, it is the time it takes to put out rounds once reaction has begun.
I'm not a nitpicker, I was pretty sure you meant .5, but I wasn't sure. And it's not that big of a time lag, but I guess it could put a cramp on the uber elite, but I think it's better to put a tiny cramp on the small minority of the uber elite in order to squash out all cheaters. I mean, I think my friend with the modded controller is pathetic, and to cramp his style of pretending to be uber elite, seems definitely worth it. :)
well shes informed plus who wouldnt agree lol
i think youre in love!
danielle007, I agree if it had to be one or the other then it would be better to cramp the hackers. But I don't believe it was necessary. Had the balance have been correct in the first place and real military advisor been on board - Kersey is a joke, an Officer that was used to sitting on his butt, and everyone at Bragg knew this. They should have hired the guy that was doing work for Ubisoft.
I can see that, morgan. But, just look on the bright side, those pathetic kids with the modded controllers are much more upset than you are right nows. Just keep their tears in mind & cheer up, buttercup. :]
If you look at my quote from 4.2 you'll see why it doesn't affect me in the least :)
'i think youre in love!' lol
it can be annoying to the legit players and it does make a difference. for example. I use the M16 most of the time, and while most of the time one shot is a kill, when you got lag going on + juganoob, quite often you do find you need to be fast and fire more then one shot/burst. with the m16, i use to be able to take out 3 - 4 guys if i was in a night spot, point shoot, point shoot, point shoot... but now i usually only end up killing 2 at most before the third gets me, i mean by the time he shoots me i am aiming at thim, but limited by my shots i just can't fire fast enough to get the kill. its annoying because i know technically i was faster and would have taken him out. however, is much as it is a little hold back, i prefer it to letting the noobs with modded pads run free and spoil the game for everyone. what i have noticed as well is the shot guns seem to be more powerfull. I don't know if its just me, but i seemed to be getting killed more and more by people with shot guns from half way cross the map.
aw, i liked spamming my desert eagle.
Yeah that was the best. If only they could work in some sort of a patch that recognized rhythmic shooting ( modded controllers) instead of slightly erratic shooting (people), what a wonderful world it would be.
I love using the mouse wheel to shoot on the PC version. That + G3 = awesome.
Never tried that. I think I'll give it a go.
Have you ever written a single post without the word "PC" in it?
A serious one? If not call me sometime :) lol, seriously do you make love with your PC or something?
Are you guys that insecure that I can't mention the PC platform in multiplatform game news? It's not like I come in here and say something completely irrelevant to the subject. Grow up.
Funny stuff guys, bubbles for all.
it should say cod4 hackers outraged lol damn cheaters piss me off not saying if I get owned online that people are cheating but if your flying through the air and sh!t on cod4 then it's kind of obvious
LOL!!! They have capes on as well. The sad part is this happened because people don't know how to not cheat. If every one kept a fair game in mind they would have to step in and create a patch. Maybe next time gamers will think about the future when they decide to cheat, but not likely.
i talked about with 200 different people while playing Domination. Only 5 didnt care the rest is a little upset maybe 90% of those rest used modded controlers...they see their moded controlers uselss now... LoL Than i switch to Halo where was 350k online and i talk with Cod4 guys there to in MLG all of them said "The games is better coz now cheaters cant cheat and the fire rate is exactly where its should be". Well , there´s like 14 milions Xbox Live Cod4 players ... Forums are a minority and are only like 500k if that much in all foruns combined of gaming news... Active member sure...
you should change your name to Halo_Retarded.
What you are mad because you can use your modded controller? You should change yours to PlayStation Xtard
Come up with your own joke.
why would i be mad? i dont play cod.
They'll probably bump it down a bit like the article suggested if enough people are angry.
PS3 issues has been none stop this week...LMAO must off being the weight loss the PS3 had.
wow way to spin it the article said Xbox360 and Ps3 douche bag.
You've lost me Patchstation
"However, after their recent patch of Call of Duty 4 for the XBOX 360 and Playstation 3, gamers are outraged."
ha good i hated watching kill cam to see a fully auto g3 kill me.
Sounds like the patch was effective. Now Epic, about Gears of War 2....
Gears 2 had it's patch and is good to go. You should try it sometime.
gears 2 is far from good to go...i finally gave up on it and sold it complete lost cause on that game
Whoever is upset/angry about the patch is a n00b and cheat end of.
i haven't had any problems with this patch as far as the gameplay goes but it feels like i get disconnected more often than i use to.
It's good and bad for me because whenever I ran into those people who use modded controllers, I wished the game didn't allow them to shoot that fast. Then again, I can shoot really fast without a modded controller and don't like being limited to how fast I can really shoot. Let's see where Infinity Ward goes from here.
you guys should be playing killzone or someothe shooter by now. call of duty 6 is coming out
Good games live forever, something PS3 players would not know.