Will P-day Mark the Beginning of the End for the Console wars?

With the imminent release of the Playstation 3 Slim model releasing in just 11 days, many Sony Fanboys are calling it P-Day, the day which shall see the begin of the end to the current gen console war.

[Go Gaming Giant]

it does bring up some good points

[muddy9494]

I agree with you. And I cant wait for the PS3 Slim!

[chaosatom]

People just go out and buy a new one as if nothing happened.

Now only if Sony can put some gigantic ads and get those consumers to buy the ps3 slim, then it will really skyrocket their sales among the xbox community.

[Fishy Fingers]

"it does bring up some good points "

Nothing like a little self promotion huh. :)

[darthv72]

Only way for a 360 owner to switch when that happens is if there was a bluescreen saying: "You have just suffered the dreaded red ring of death. Forget getting it fixed for free from Microsoft. Go buy a PS3 instead."

Something like that you have in mind?

[sonic989]

i am really happy for sony and i hope the ps3 slim sells great
but
off topic :
you cant compare this cheap piece of plastic with old ps3s ( i got the sixty GB model ) it just looks cheap sooo cheap
anyway it will be a good buy for those cheap xbox wii owners who dreamed about a ps3 but seriously i cant even consider it a ps3 ( in the same class as my PS3 ( good looking ) ) but in the end i wish all the success for sony for being the best ( now sega bring sonic back ) ( kojima make mgs FIVE on PS3 only ) and any exclusives are welcomed

[frnkyl]

That would make a great ad XD

[Immortal Kaim]

Meh... I wouldn't be taking much notice of fanboys, I think we should see how things pan out before declaring an 'end to the console war'. We all know how that turned out for Bush... :)

[Cold 2000]

Yeah of course nobody uses the warranty...

But of course when a PS3 or a Wii breaks down they use the warranty but funny enough when its the 360 they dont use the warranty...weird logic you have...

And that would mean that the 360 sales are inflated because of RROD

Well in that case that means the PS3 is doing CATASROPHIC in software sales cuz like u said people buy multiple 360's wich means the 360 isntall base is 1/3 too big (33% RROD) -----> that means in reality theres 20 million 360's out there.

Dont be stupid, think before you post.

[fishd]

fallout:war, war never changes

MGS 4 :war, war has changed

KZ 2 :war, war perfected

[CadDad]

Chaos, I'm not sure getting 360 converts is the market they are after.

There are upwards of 50-100 million (guess) PS2 owners out there sitting and waiting for this gen still. I think a drop in price caters to them far more than someone who already jumped into this gen.

Time will tell for sure though.

-CadDad

[ArmrdChaos]

Funny how sooooo many b*tch about the doom and gloom articles about the PS3...yet now that the shoe is on the other foot it is perfectly ok. Yep...them corporate cheerleaders(on all sides) are a funny breed. Maybe if everyone just bought their systems, played their games, and shut the h*ll up about the rest then the world (and this site) would be a much better place.

[Sarcasm]

This was a decent article. But what I don't get is how they claim the console war is almost 5 years?

The 360 has been out 4 years, but the "war" didn't start until the PS3 actually launched. It's only been 2 years and 3/4. 3 Years in November.

And what the author is also forgetting, the PS3 launched 6 months later in EU, so the 360 had a year and a half start in Europe, yet the PS3 caught up to it's install base.

People are always forgetting about Eu it seems. (Or the rest of the world for that matter) The 360's home territory is the U.S.

And I've said this a billion times, but when GT5 launches especially in Eu. Our European brethren will flock to it like seagulls at a cracker factory. And since the ps3 is now 249 euros, they won't think twice before buying it.

[MTEC8]

sounds retarded, yeah I want the Slim as much as the next guy but P-Day? Come on, really!?

[chaosatom]

I am not saying that each one of the 33% people who suffer RROD buy a new 360. Most of them get it fixed for free.

But there are still lots of people who buy a new 360 say about 5-10% once their 360 gets RROD.

Software sales for PS3 and 360 are getting to be the same, so what does that tell you?

[Guido]

They knew that people would buy another console and for those that were going back to the store for in-store warrantees, all that did was boost the overall sales numbers for MS so when the NPD was released each month they could gloat. This gen has been all about MS digging at Sony and nothing more. They were bitter about the bad spanking they got last gen that they thought heck, let's just focus on digging at Sony this gen then maybe next gen bring out the real deal. This gen for MS was not about the gamer, it was about them and nothing more. So MS thanks all us beta testers for helping them all along...

[rockleex]

P-Day actually stands for P*ssy Day.

The day when all fanboys can finally leave their mom's basement to go out, get laid, and stop flaming each other on the internet.

But unfortunately, P-Day takes place in 2013. One year after the end of the world.

Too bad we will never see the day when fanboys no longer plague the internet. :(

[Fullish]

Of course not, it'll just add a cheaper alternative.

[chaosatom]

um he is not really asking a question. It's just a attention grabber.

He is just saying that sales will go through roof. You're not suppose to literally interpret it or apply logic.

[lloyd_wonder]

nvm

[Mr_Controversy]

BECAUSE UNLIKE THE PS3 WHEN YOU GET A YLOD, YOU DON'T NEED TO REFORMAT THE WHOLE DAMN THING and have everything wiped out! With the Xbox 360, your HARD-EARNED PLAYING TIME DOESN'T GET ERASED. You simply take out the HDD and get an Xbox 360 Arcade with all your memory STILL THERE!

Either way, you still save money over the dust-magnet.

[leyego]

thats a BS excuse. update ur damn data and u wont lose everything u did. thats y u have that option.

[Narutone66]

Ever heard of backup? Right, now just shut up.

[Sarcasm]

lol Mr. Controversy got owned.

Yes, there's a small thing called "Back-up" which saves all the game saves and photos, music, and everything except the downloadable games, (which can be re-downloaded anyway)

[Mr_Controversy]

Why would I have purchase another $100 HDD to back up my saves. With Xbox 360 that isn't even needed. You got owned! LOL.

[Go Gaming Giant]

This does make me want to buy the PS3 slim a bit more but I'm still not totally there, just can't bring myself to do it

[Orange]

"they wouldn’t have to compromise between Blu-ray/Home/built-in web browser and Xbox Live/Halo/Gears"

EDIT:
"they wouldn't have to compromise between Blu-ray/Killzone 2/MSG4/LBP and Xbox Live/Halo/Gears"

[Caspel]

good deal

[darthv72]

There will never be an end to this war so long as there are fresh batches of new recruits taking the lines each month.

[Go Gaming Giant]

just out of curiosity how many of you plan on buying a slim

[muddy9494]

I might. I mean, Its cheaper than before and It will actually fit with the xbox now that it is slimmer and smaller. I will be buying one if I have the money and if there is any in stock.

[ShabzS]

but it'll take 4 or 5 months for the slim and price cut to take effect here in india ...

the current prices of ps3's are still 400 dollars ...

[poindat]

My 60 gig seems like it's on the verge of death. I can't play it for more than half an hour with the fan kicking on to hyperdrive and my load times getting longer, and longer, and longer...

It would nice not to have to worry about that, and the Slim does seem much more efficient (duh!).

[Nitrowolf2]

i will cause my ps3 craped on me (being repaired) and i fear it might brake again

[Harry_Manback]

But I also pre-ordered a slim off amazon the day it was announced. I like the new look of it, and less power consumption/heat is always a plus. I'm also enticed by the connectivity feature between the slim and Bravia tv's.

As for my 60gb...its going to be tucked away in a very safe place.

[Raf1k1]

I'm thinking of getting one for my brother.

[Saaking]

It'll be my second PS3.

[Knghtz]

I've said it a million times. Firmware update for Backwards compatability and I'm sold.

[resistance100]

Yep, if i see anywhere doing a decent trade in deal for the 60GB PS3

[Daishi]

I'll be picking one up at the begining of the year, give it some time to see if it has hardware problems like the PS2 slim did when it first came out (or just pay $40 for an extended waranty). And though people on here make it seem like everyone who has a 360 buying a Slim will ditch it, that's not gonna be my case. Both will recieve the love they deserve!

[Mario]

.....why the hell are you going to trade in your 60gb for a slim??? The 60 gigs are the best ps3's out there. Backwards compatibility, card readers, 4 usb slots, etc. Slim does nothing better except have 120gb and use less power. Why the hell would you trade that?

[Chris399]

The blu-ray drive on my original 60 gig (custom 250 gig) crapped out a couple weeks back. Soon as I get it back I'm trading it in for store credit or for cash to be used to purchase upcoming games. For me, BC is over-rated. I haven't played a PS2 game since Persona 4 and there's nothing on the horizon that interests me.

I'm looking forward to the new, quiet (my last old girl really chugged the discs near the end :) ) non-dust magnet (God bless the matte finish) Slim. Have it pre-ordered at EB. They come out on the 24th if you're in the U.S. and the 26th if you're in Canada (like me).

So in short (not really :) ), YES, I will be getting a slim and I'm very excited about it! T minus 6 days!

[Sarcasm]

I'm considering to get one simply because of the heat output. My current 80gb makes my room way too hot sometimes.

Although my friend who's 60gb blu-ray drive died, is going to get a Slim. If it really does run as cool as I hope, then I'll bite the bullet and get one myself.

[TheBand1t]

An end to the console wars, nah.

It'll just get more interesting.

[Raf1k1]

I agree. This console war is far from over.

[Golfcoachh]

It will take 4 years to catch them, so all this noise is moot. Don't even get me started on the wii, not a chance to catch them. I will of course be doing my best to help though and buying a slim to put in my bedroom. I can't wait for the fanboys to disagree on my post and take my bubbles. But really are they going to outsell the 360 by 4 mill a year, I doubt. Reality will set in when the numbers are tallied for the enitre year of 09 and they see that ps3 might win by 300 thousand, far cry from 8 mill.

[Chris399]

If they continue to outsell the 360 in Europe and Japan only at a new, accelerated pace (if the Slim gets some serious momentum), AND they manage to consistently outsell their competition in America (well, the 360 mostly, unless the Wii-fervor suddenly dies off), they can catch up in less than 4 years.

I'm curious to see how this all plays out really, and what MS and Nintendo's next move will be.

[Golfcoachh]

worldwide, it doesn't matter what region. There is no doubt the next few months will be stellar for them, and holiday as well, but its not like the 360 will sell 0 units over the next 4 years. People make a lot out of the fact that the 360 had a head start, and that gave them the 8 milliion or whatever lead, well that was with no competition. 4 years minimum to catch, and you can take that to the bank.

Edit: since I am not a sony fanboy and my bubbles were dumped because I didn't bow down to the almighty slim, the idiot a few posts down that uses Game informer 54% rrod as fact, you just show your ignorance. A non random sample of 5000 readers with no facts or proof behind it. Why are you so scared of the 360? My God man, the PS3 is the better machine, no doubt, so why act like a little child. Oh thats right you are a little child. I forgot, making sweeping generalizations only shows how little you know about anything. You are a fanboy, pure and simple, and by saying, well I own all three, like that matters, so do I, and yet I don't jerk off over a company coming out with a new model. These sillly little children on this site used to be entertaining, now it just gets annoying. In the last year I have seen this site go from about an equal number of fangirls on each side, to an overwhelming abundance of sony fanboys. Listen, I love my Ps3, read my former comments about it. I don't spew hate and anger when one console does good, I don't care, I see someone posting something and I comment on it. Thats all, but alas, as is the norm with this site lately, the fanboys loud shouts drowned out the civilized conversation here. LOL SAD SAD SAD

[spacetoilet]

It will help, but won't change much on the grand scale of things. I will get one though, as I have a ps3, but I need another one for the bedroom.

But having said that, a cheaper ps3 with FREE online play is going to boost sales if economy improves next year.

[Saaking]

Yes it will. The 360's selling point was it's price. With that gone, sales will start decreasing while PS3 sales will begin increasing. PS3 should start selling 200k+ a month while the 360 will dwindle to around 100k (mostly people replacing their old RROD console). Within a year, the PS3 should be well ahead of the 360 and MS will have failed yet again.

The wii's sales are still strong and the casual crowd still buys it so I don't expect the PS3 to outsell the Wii for at least 6 more months. Once casuals start getting PS3s and word of mouth spread the PS3 should start coming out on top of both the 360 and Wii.

[Mo0eY]

Now if you were a parent, and you saw this and the Xbox 360 there at Christmas, and you look at the games and see LittleBigPlanet and Eyepet along with blu-ray, it's a no-brainer on what you're going to pick.

Sony has hit a grand slam with this, and the bots are running scared as is Microsoft. Dropping the Pro SKU and the price of the Elite won't save them simply because of what I stated above. It's a no brainer for the consumer.

Enjoy your last month in sales, bots.

[Saaking]

Sony has been planning this all along. Building up first party, starting more casual IPs, PS motion wands, and now the Slim. It's all part of their plan.

[Narutone66]

I'll get my second PS3 together with Eyepet, and GT5. Hopefully, they're both out by then. I might get a second PSP just for GT PSP alone.

[Consoldtobots]

the funny thing is many knowledgeable posters have said this would happen FAR in advance of this day, Sony builds up a huge library of titles while the console is at a high price. Then slams the competition down by lowering production costs and lowering the price AT WILL.

I was explaining this to my friend just today. Fanboys expecting MS to answer the slim with yet ANOTHER price drop aren't living in reality. MS was already taking a loss on the price cut from late last year. This is proven by the much reduced profit margins they have reported each quarter. They sacrificed profit for marketshare and now have been caught with their pants down and an overstuffed retail channel. Like a pretty boy in prison they will just have to grin and bear it.

[beeeffess]

I can't see Wii sales going down anytime soon.

As much as I dislike the path Nintendo has gone down, they're swimming in gold plated swimming pools with money and exotic fish.

Neither PS3 or Xbox 360 can catch up to them at this point in time. As far as 360 and PS3 is concerned it's close. Very close. Although if PS3 was to dominate it would have to include PS2 BC and further price drops to rival 360.

[Memo-Xen x3100]

Definately buying a slim though, I'll wait it out till next year tax season but I have a 20GB launch model. No wi-fi, 20 Gigs of space, that's all... I honestly don't know how I've made it this long. Have not played a PS2 on the rig either so I don't need the backward compatability.

[Gamer_Z]

no, fanboys have been saying that forever.

i say you pick whatever console you prefer, shut the hell up and play your video games

[Knghtz]

No I'm....doesn't!

[resistance100]

"many Sony Fanboys are calling it P-Day"

I've not seen it being called P-Day on any forum i've been on =/

[Raf1k1]

I thought they were calling it 'D-Day'

[-EvoAnubis-]

Exactly what I was going to say. Where in the hell is this guy getting this "P-Day" crap from? I think he just made it up.

[DaTruth]

Guaranteed, even if PS3 doubles the sales of 360, the 360 fanboys will say; "Oh, Sony owners said it was supposed to sell quadruple and called it P-day."

Most of the things 360 fanboys say PS3 owners said, were actually made up by some random PS3 hating site, accusing the PS3 owners of saying it, when nobody said it but them!

[Midgard228]

i just finished my 9 hour shift at gamecrazy today, we went through 8 new 360's in 20 minutes, 2 seperate customers came back 3 times each then had us test consoles till they worked. this isnt counting the consoles they brought back to replace it with

over 20 customers today said they are switching to the slim and forgetting the 360. honestly after all the headaches its given me and the customers as well as probably many stubborn members on this site why the heck put up with this anymore? halo's not that good

and if all ur friends own the 360 get over it, get them to convert too the u will all have ps3's and be happy

[Golfcoachh]

Your not a fanboy at all, this sounds like it happens everyday, rrod is what 98 percent now. Geez you are so right, I am going to go out and buy 50 ps3's right now and give them to my friends that don't have them. Thats how much I love the ps3.. Man this place is getting way overun by fanboys, on both sides. I think its time to find a new place to get my news.

[Midgard228]

because me owning all 3 consoles makes me a fanboy, because i would lie about a video game console. because MS didnt lie when they said the jasper and falcon chip/processors/ all the new sku's would be red ring free.

if u think im lying enjoy ur thoughts. trust me i was shocked aswell, whether ms just sent us a bunch of defects or not fact is it still happened, fact is i can bet u've gone thru atleast 1 or no someone who has. stop cloaking urself, u realize somethin dont u?

54% failure rate means u walk into a store and look at 2 360's, atleast one of those if not both is gonna read ring, its like flippin a coin.

fact is it happens, its true and theres a reason MS is being sued for laser burns/ rrod/error e 74 besides their other problems like some 360's not being able to go online at all.

go head work at a game retail place, u'll see what u run into. fact is if morons know bout the red rings then its a pandemic.

call me a fanboy? label yourself a fanboy for trying to cover MS's dirty tracks

[dizzleK]

i work at your competitor :) and easily 80% of the 360s we sell are replacement consoles. people say theyre either out of warranty or they simply want a replacement while their broken 360 is being shipped out. on the rare occasion we actually sell to a new customer, they go out of their way to look for a jasper. as a store we have been going out of our way to suggest ps3,even before the price drop, because were simply tired of the ENDLESS rrod,e74 and scratched discs.we'll outright tell the customer theyre wasting their money if they choose 360.

i would LOVE to see the stats from places like gc,gs and walmart about how many broken 360s are returned.

[Midgard228]

exactly, only someone who works at video game retail truley knows the xbox's problems and fail rates, and ur right alot of MS's 360 sales are because people still want an xbox while they wait 1-2 months for theres to come back. its sad......i hate laser burn, especially when a customer buys a new game comes back in 2 hours and says we sold it to them like that lol.

to bad i tell them they did it, even if they get mad lol

then im like is ur 360 standing up? they reply with a dumb look "um y-yeaah" then i reply, yeah it wasnt your fault it was MS's lol.

tho alot of Game stops i know bash the ps3 and claim that sony loses 1200$ on the consoles still lol or that games dont work on ps3 etc etc, guess it depends on location ;p

[bobdog626]

When Tekken come's out i might get one if it turn's out to be that good. If not God of War i will get one on that day . Have to wait and see

[Pizzagaki]

Tekken is multi, i can understand your GOW3 point, but why buy a specific console for a multi game ?

[Midgard228]

ever play a fighter on 360? it sux thats why a fighter always is better on a ps3, controller is just versitile unlike the 360's which is only good for racers. sports and shooters, totally horrible for anything with action, and u shud know u made ninja gaiden :)

[Pizzagaki]

Yes i did, and games like soul calibur and tekken play fine with the 360 pad.

Its street fighter you need some adjusting for with the pad, but i got used to it.
I even pull off the raging demon from gouki with it.

And ninja gaiden is pure ownage on the 360, your supposed to play it with the stick, not the dpad, same goes for every other action game.
And i had a ps2, i found the controller on that one by no means more comfortable then the 360 pad.
So keep your fanboyish controller fuzz will ya.

[Midgard228]

NG on d-pad ewwwww lol, ever play blazblue on 360, UGHHH!!!!, KOF? UGHHH!!!! sf was aweful on it. tekken? u played it already? wow. even DOA plays better with d-pad.

and o i have NG2 for 360, and am buying sigma 2, i enjoyed it alot better on the ps controller, hand gets cramped on 360's contr. im no fanboy lol, i play halo, star ocean, got 360 for ninja gaiden before MS lost its exclusivity even tho it says only on xbox on cover lol.

o and it shudnt take getting used to, that means u had to bare with it and it was bad at a point, something should feel natural otherwise its just not that good.

o and SC on 360, meh it plays ok, but go to any tournament and its on a ps contr, timing for counters is off on 360 contr, i played it at work forever and at my gf's house and she couldnt get used to it lol, she regreted gettin it on her 360 and not her ps3

[sonic989]

war will get more exciting as you will see the ps3 dashes throw the competition in sales in every month woow .
even if it looks sick but hay its a ps3 in the end you dont have to look at it ( look at the HD tv in the living room ) and for the guys who are planing to buy it while having the old one why wasting your money save it for the busy 2010 historical games Lol iam saving right now for it ( 2010 ) really no need to splash that money on another ugly systems ( leave it for the casual gamers ) dont mix your self with casual gamers out there
for example if i went to my friends house and i saw the ps3 slim i will say inside my self he is a cheap @ss
but if i saw a sixty GB or 20 GB model i will say woow what a gamer
so its more about the image of yourself and the old ps3 matches the new sony tvs and sound systems which makes the system really hot in home theaters

[thegreatest7884]

It looks nice, not getting one though. My current PS3 never gets played so I dont feel like investing in a smaller version of it.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I'm actually a little upset that n4g.com users would approve such a steaming pile of garbage.

Oh well. There's always Digg.com

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You must be new to N4G, this garbage is par for the course.

P-Day? LMAO!

The console war is never over when they are beat month after month in sales but as soon as PS3 launches its price drop it's the end.

I think the price cut is going to have a positive effect(duh!) but this is ridiculous and reminds me of Judgment Day, which I guess they decided to not use this time because they looked like a bunch of fools when they claimed that garbage.

[cyclindk]

"many dubbed Nintendo as the winners of this generation of consoles."

Nintendo as the winnerS?

"and by making it on offer at a lower "

making it ON offer... what?

"Will they win the console war? Of cause not."

Of CAUSE not... what?

Proofread FAIL

Will this "journalist" ever become a successful one, of cause not!!!

[CrashFallen]

wtf is this nonsense... if anything this is the start lmao.... tbh PS3 is gonna start improving from now on due to all this publicity it has gotten from the price cut as well as slim model and the many updates coming to HOME and the XMB... and the reason i say it starts now cuz now the majority of people arent people who dont know any better, now they these people are in the loop of which system is the next gen console and heopefully arent going back to being fooled my Microsofts overhyped ads which turn out to be garbage.... *coughs* Halo 3....

[sonic989]

edit : why the disagrees most of us here sony fans said its ugly and fake when it was a rumor please people dont be blind and stay on your words
i mean dont make such a fanboy behavior ( IT IS UGLY )
the logo looks sick ( we are not on the PS2 era anymore )
and the systems surface looks empty ( I KNOW IT IS FOR THE CASUAL MARKET ) look HARDCORE equals old PS3 CASUAL equals SLIM PS3 ok geez

[ultimolu]

Lol, P-Day...xD

[sonic989]

sounds interesting
i hope to see the sells go up sharply
GO PS3 whatever you look like ( even the slim Lol )

[SnukaTheMan]

Take your pick of game that was suppose to make the playstation 3 dominate the sales charts....I think the only people buying the ps3 slim are people who have ps3's already. Im still waiting for the boost in ram.

[dizzleK]

i thought the "OMFG!!!!" games like halo and gears were supposed to BURY the ps3.....hasnt happened yet huh? for such an "amazing" console with the "best" games, its failed to crush the ps3 (in fact they sell almost identically) and its $200 price tag hasnt even made a friggin' DENT in the wii's lead. brother, the writing is on the wall. get with the program. id be more worried about your precious 360 which is utterly stagnating in sales charts,ms has nowhere left to go but down. they have no studios, no exclusives this year really, theyve dropped the price as far as they can go,etc. worry about your side of the fence.

[00]

Wait you mean to tell me that EVERY xbox360 is $200.

[SnukaTheMan]

so lets hear some predictions on how much ps3s will be sold for august then......100k....200k.......3 00k...lets see some numbers from you ps3 wizards. my guess....like I said..people with ps3's will buy the slims..so ill go 150K for august alone...its a conservative number....so if they sell like you guys are talking about it will be triple that.

[Godmars290]

...

[glennc]

hilarious

[JJFNIGHTS80]

I'm thinking of getting it for my cousin. And we have to wait and see how the hardware will sell for the holidays.

[Lex Luthor]

The console wars were meant to have ended as soon as the PS3 arrived.

Hmmmm.......

[gameseveryday]

great stuff!!