FFXIV: "Discussions" with Microsoft holding up 360 version

VG247: Ongoing discussions with Microsoft about how Final Fantasy XIV is to work with Xbox Live are partly to blame for the lack of announced 360 version, producer Hiromichi Tanaka told VG247 at GamesCom today.

[Saaking]

I never expected FF XIV to be exclusive, heck I'm not really interested in it. At least there's some good news for the bots after everything they've gone through.

[Gamer_Politics]

FF14 will suck now since its on the 360 right?waits for sony fans to bash SE..

[Saaking]

nah, it was an MMO so I don't really like those type of games.

[Alcon Caper]

Gamer_Politics, you are so right. When SE releases FF and Lens of Truth makes the 360 version look nicer, fanboys will go for SE's jugular! Hilarity ensues...

[cereal_killa]

So Lens of Truth is the new Muppet web site along with VGchartz and Metajoke. Now you Muppet's have Sales, Reviews and now Visuals I guess with the combination of the three being a triple threat of BullSh!t.

[Saaking]

This game was never exclusive. It was on PS3/PC.

[InfectedDK]

It is a console timed exclusive.. - Atleast..

The game may or may not make it to the 360.. I guess MS wants monthly subscription for the game with 50% of it for themselves..

Are there any cross platform for PS3 and PC?

[himdeel]

...for one systems architecture. I do not consider FF14 an exclusive. I'm still buying it though.

[meepmoopmeep]

i can see this coming to 360
i would be more surprised if it didn't

[raztad]

Doesnt make sense to make a MMO only on PS3. Even SOE mmos are on pc. What I expect is a cross platform game, both PC and ps3 players interacting each other. Hardly xbox live will interact with other platforms.

BTW, SE is really a pile of trash. I dont like them, Wada and co have been very unsupportive of PS brand, and their games are not very stellar any more. Batman:AA is a not buy for me because of them. I'll get it when it reaches the bargain bin or just pre-owned.

@Guys bellow

FFXIII/XIV is the only thing is being working on on the PS3 right now. Not to mention that FFXIV is not specially exciting for no mmo players like me. FF Versus is vaporware and probably wont be released in several years from now.

SE has done a good job on portables (mostly DS) but their games on Xbox werent very good. SO4 was a flop in every sense. Tri-Ace is working with SEGA now, they said no so nice things about SE.

Now, SE is in the middle of its "westernization". That means more shovelware, and less quality RPGs. I hope them to do good with FFXIII, but its not clear to me what they are doing.

BTW, why is bad to wait for games on your platform? Do you like S-E just because is MS whore?

[Gamer_Politics]

SE unsupportive of PS brand?are you serious?FF13/14 along with others will also be on the ps3 along with pc/360 so whats the problem....

[Xeoset]

Raztad.

1) You wouldn't be saying that if S-E were still sucking Sony's nuts.
2) I highly doubt there'll be any PS3/PC cross platform play, unless it's every OS bar Windows. MS are hardly going to willingly give praise points to a Sony game.

Think about it.

[CrazyOrange]

nice spin

but at e309 Jack Tretton’s said its only on playstation 3 and only possible on playstation 3

[AAACE5]

I kind of knew that because this was going to be an MMO, that it would somehow show its face on the 360. The only FF game to release on the 360 was FFXI (an MMO), so it seemed logical that this one would as well.

Now that I almost have my reserved Ps3 slim paid off, I can enjoy FFXIII and Versus! I am not really into MMO games, so I still don't know if I will buy XIV yet!

[Cold 2000]

According to Sony, the firm behind the PS3, FF14 is a PS3 exclusive.

Now tell me again who the heck are you ??

[heroicjanitor]

They have released several 360 games, but I haven't a clue what they are up to. It's like they are experimenting and falling back on DQ and FF when things go wrong, it's insane and I bet they haven't got a long term plan either.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

What he said was:

"...Playstation3 will be the only console you'll be able to play Final Fantasy XIV on when it launches in 2010." meaning that when the game launches PS3 will be the only console to have it not that it is exclusive.

[DJ]

And n4gn4gn4gn4g has it right.

[Gamer_Politics]

i dont even play or like any of those Jrpgs games but why complain that SE isnt giving ps3 support when they have about 4 games coming to that platform next year

[CrazyOrange]

i checked again i was wrong sorry, it was supposed to be a console exclusive

[Tony P]

My million dollar question: Is XBL having the same effect on these MMO port announcements we keep hearing about (LotR, Warhammer, AoC), but which haven't actually materialized?

[Xephon08]

I don't care if the game comes to the 360 not one bit, in fact I'm for it, (mind you i only own a ps3 and ps3 games) but what I will mind is if the game is delayed on the ps3 to make that happen. As long as the game is on the ps3 on time i don't give 2 turds if the 360 comes along with it or after it.

Also to say MS would tell square to not make the game be playable between ps3 and pc could be a massive backfire, since Square could then just make it a ps3 exclusive and cancel all the MS projects and give FF series PS3 exclusivity, you think SE can't play the game of cat and mouse you're wrong. Just like FFXI this is going to eventually be pc/ps3/360

[Alex_Mexico]

"1) You wouldn't be saying that if S-E were still sucking Sony's nuts.
2) I highly doubt there'll be any PS3/PC cross platform play, unless it's every OS bar Windows. MS are hardly going to willingly give praise points to a Sony game."

Why do you doubt cross platform play so much? Didnt you know FFXI let PC, PS2 and 360 players together?
I can see perfectly PC and PS3 players playing together. What I see as a problem is Microsoft letting Xbox users playing with PS3 users.

[FamilyGuy]

EXACTLY!
M$ probably didn't care about PS2 owners because they were getting a FF game, PS2s online service was incomparable to theirs (unlike the current PSN) and they were trying to get close to squareenix.

That or M$ wants a larger part of the monthly fees
Or something related to user created content though i doubt that since mmo generally seem strict.

One big thing to remember
Square enix already said that PC and PS3 users would all be playing together/it would be cross platform play. M$ might really just want to be separate and maybe Square wants to charge them for that.

[Masamori Sumimura]

"Jack Tretton’s FFXIV exclusivity announcement FFXIV at E3, and that it “doesn’t mean that we’re not going to have a 360 [version] in the future"

when devs say that you already know what's going to happen.

this occured for Tales of Vesperia going to PS3, Eternal Sonata going to PS3 and Cross Edge going to Xbox360 , Bioshock going to PS3 and will probably do the same for FFXIV.

[rhood022]

Actually, with those titles you mentioned, the publishers were coy, vague, or flat out denying whether or not it would come to the other system (despite the fact gamers knew otherwise) in order to honor the timed exclusive agreement in place.

With SE, they literally said "no, it's not really a PS3 exclusive" mere minutes after Sony's e3 press conference. If I were an exec in SCEA, I'd take a hard look at the contract and, if some disclosure was breached by their statement, I wouldn't hesitate to sue them.

[Gamer_Politics]

Sony knew the game wasnt exclusive but they had to use FF14 to grab some spotlight at E3

[rhood022]

^^^

Why? If they knew it wasn't exclusive then why say it? This isn't MS we're talking about who, time and again, touts timed exclusives as "full". Just go back to the Fallout 3 DLC announcement. Or the Tales of Vesperia one.

Sony has no problem saying if a game is timed or not. The "Unreal" announcement from two years ago is a prime example. They clearly said it was coming out first on the PS3--meaning it wasn't a full exclusive.

[Gamer_Politics]

because everyone would of took it as another huge blow....and sony didnt wanna have to deal with that at E3

[Tony P]

"This isn't MS we're talking about who, time and again, touts timed exclusives as "full"."

Sony doesn't have that pattern, no. But that's pretty much exactly what happened with them this time. Tretton already knew it was on PC and likely that it wasn't confirmed or in-development for 360. But it's not like he knew for sure that it wouldn't go to 360. 'Unconfirmed' was probably good enough to go ahead with the announcement. And if the 360 version doesn't materialize same day, he'll be correct on technicalities just like MS.

[Xephon08]

Given the FFXI is on the 360 and works on it, i can't see this game not being on it, Exclusive can mean a million things, it can mean the game is console exclusive or it could mean its exclusive for 2010 (say it comes out in sep 2010) but in 2011 its on 360. NOTING THAT GAMING EXECS SAY CAN BE BELIEVED

I've said this from day 1, i'm for this game being on 360, its a multiplayer game why not give more people access to it, at best we could have a ps3fan guild vs 360fan guild pvp, you finally get to kill your mortal enemy so to speak.

[Xeoset]

Microsoft are probably just finding some way to integrate it with Live. Pretty much trying to take the wind out of Sony's announcement.

I hope something comes about which I'm sure it will from just looking how much Live has progressed. But these back and forth balls need to stop as it's getting retarded trying to follow what is and isn't exclusive anymore.

[Roper316]

if it is a 3rd party take it as a multiplat is the best approach.

[Xeoset]

True, unless it's the likes of Mistwalker or Kojima Studios I guess.

[koehler83]

No kidding...

[zok310]

..... I think he meant to say that "Microsoft did not cut a check at the time of E3, so we will be releasing the game on the PS3 and PC in 2010."
Shame on you Tanaka for trying to drag Jack Tretton down to your level, you better hope Sony and Jack don't reply publicly to your claims of them forgetting to say that FF14 will be a console time exclusive for the PS3, damn lier.

Edit:

Even Aaron Greenberg said he was not aware of the title being exclusive at E3, which means that negotiations between MS and SE began after the Sony announcement, so it would be impossible for Jack to announce it a console timed exclusive at that time. Jack was very careful with his wording while announcing the title, he did not say exclusive he said the PS3 will be the only console that the title will be available on when it launches in 2010. So he left plenty of room for SE and MS to make their own announcement at a later time, and of course Sony was not going to use their time to announce the game for multiply platforms by announcing it the way Tanaka claim they should have.

[Sez]

i think the check that sony gave SE bounced. thats why they came out moments later and announced it was going multi-plat.

[leeger]

SE is just probably asking for more money.
SE: Hey MS you want FF14 for the 360? then show us the money!

[GrandDragon]

Okay I am a PS3 fan and now I hate FF XIV because its now a potential launch title for the Xbots

Nah...Only kidding :D

[Sez]

Either way. It doesn't matter to me. I'm getting it on PC. Not really into MMO's on consoles. PC version will be better.

[Raf1k1]

I agree MMOs tend to work best on PC but I think they can work well on consoles too but the gameplay has to be tailored to work with console controls.

I'm guessing that the simpler console controls would mean the PC also has to have simpler (than normal PC MMO) controls as the game works cross-platform.

edit: Yeh I'm not really surprised to be honest. An MMO with controls and gameplay designed for the PC has a tough time working on consoles.
When it comes to MMOs it's always best to get it on PC but an MMO is essentially a game where thousand can play at the same time together so it can certainly work on consoles but not the way it works on PC.

[Sez]

i played FF11 online on PC for 4 years. when i tried it on the 360. it just didn't feel right. i like using a keyboard/mouse when i play MMO's. thats why i'm getting it for PC. plus i could always use the 360 controller with my PC.

[koehler83]

Apparently people aren't aware of the history of why FFXI was on 360 instead of Xbox like it was planned to be. MS wanted to restrict FFXI to gold members, meaning 360 players would need to pay 2 separate fees in order to play. It took 2 years to resolve that issue and meant the game was released on Xbox much later than expected and is available to Silver Members to MS' chagrin.

It seems MS hasn't learned.

[leeger]

wouldn't it be hilarious if SE announces FFXV on this years TGS! lol seriously when I heard the announcement of FF14 I don't know how to react, whether I will be happy or frustrated because FF13 is still in development and they are already announcing ff14.

[Allowen]

Do you know if rpg(s) such FF14 and Demon's Souls are console games that can get closer to what is an MMoRPG in PCs ?

[Raf1k1]

An MMO is basically a game that hundreds/thousands of players can play together. If you had co-op for a game like Demon's Souls where you could play with hundred of people in the game you could pretty much call that a basic MMO since it is Massively Multiplayer and it's Online.

The thing is, MMO's need to be really big and very lengthy games since you could easily finish a game like Demon's Souls if you had a group of 10 people.

MMO's need to be designed from the very start as MMO's so you couldn't make an MMO out of an existing game without adding and changing a lot of things.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

They are very reluctant to let mmo developers do what they want far as a open network goes so thats a reason why its halted...but i dont think it would stop it

[halo3pwndsallfps]

another exclusive of ps3 for 360? ouch.

[TheTruth89]

No, because it's not a news at all, lot of peoples speak about this from the first E3 day.

[Saaking]

It never was exclusive. It was coming to PS3/PC which means it was always multiplat.

[cereal_killa]

It was announced for the PS3 and PC at the same time only idiot Muppet's as yourself would think of something also on the PC as an exclusive.

[XLiveGamer]

MMO's in consoles are a danger to the other online multiplayer games

That is why microsoft its holding it. Microsoft care about developers. Yeah yeah yeah go ahead disagree and leave a cry me a river comment but its true.

Come on think about it. With World of Warcraft, Aion, Old Republic and other MMO on Xbox360. Do you believe that RPG lovers are going to pay attention or have the time to play other RPG games? Hello the economy is fnck up! NO MUCH MONEY TO SPEND ON THIS & PEOPLE WILL IGNORE OTHER GAMES.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

People will be outraged with mmos on both systems.why get it on xbox live when i already paid 50 bucks and u telling me i gotta to pay an additional 15 a month for this game....I dont like mmo pricing 5-10 bucks seem reasonable

[TheTruth89]

Mhhhh a big MMO in a console with some models WITHOUT HDD, ouch, that's a big deal for Square....

Stay Tuning for a future 'canned'

“However, for FFXIV, because 360 has its own policy with Xbox Live that is different from [the] internet, that’s something we’re in discussions with Microsoft [about], to come to an agreement. That’s one of the reasons it’s not going to be launched at that point.

Nice, XBOX LIVE SUCKS!

[Gamer_Politics]

yeah i bet you would like for FF14 to be canned for 360 along with other sony fans but sorry that dream wont happen

[topgeareasy]

ok

[DARK WITNESS]

i am sorry, but this does make me laugh a bit... ya i remember all those comments after E3. All the fans going on about how shocked they were and how MS just got owned because they got the gimped 13 while the real FF14 is going to be badass and exclusive.

somehow i get the feeling it may not be so exclusive after all.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

Never saw that..general consensus was it might go to the 360 but we get it first sorta like mass effect coming to the ps3

[Gamer_Politics]

yeah i remember all the sony fans being all happy about FF14 when they thought it was ps exclusive now most dont care about it anyone because its an MMO...man the excuses

[Raf1k1]

I remember that too but it's to be expected from fanboys.

Will FF14 have a monthly subscription?

[SuperStrokey1123]

Am i the only one that wants it to come to both consoles? It would be great i think especially if you could go cross platform. I know that wont happen but it would be uber.

[ButterToast]

I agree, the more people the better in an MMO.

[Crystallis]

Who cares, MMO's need as many players as possible. Get more people to play. That was the problem with FFXI.

[JonnyBigBoss]

HEY GAIS LOOK ITZ AN EXCLUSIVE!

PC/Console games are multi-platform. Stop acting like they aren't.

[DelbertGrady]

I watched gameplay movies of it on gametrailers and it looks like pure sh!t.

[Blaster_Master]

The only problem I see is that unless Sony gets out party chat, there would be no way for 360, pc, and ps3 owners to use VOIP and communicate without a keyboard. I think the only issue here is that Microsoft doesn't want to stain themselves and let ps3 users beable to use voice chat communication with xbox live gold subscribers. It could brind the demise of paying for xbox live.

[saimcheeda]

:P

[SoapShoes]

So far it is not coming to the 360. Wait for an announcement guys, seriously. Otherwise just forget about it and move on so you aren't dwelling on it.

I'll bet most people here don't even care if it comes to 360, they just want it to put on their fanboy list.

[Sez]

I hope your talking about both factions. Cause I could name a few games sonyfan and msfan want just to throw in each others face. ME1,2 and GoW3 comes to mind

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I disagreed because it's coming. There is no way you can miss out on the install base of the 360. Same thing with Rockstars Agency, it will be coming to the 360 as well.

[Saaking]

why do bots get so worked up about getting Sony exclusives? If you bots like them so much why don't you get a PS3? It seems you'd rather see MS get games multiplat than actual exclusives.

[NeptuneMerc]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Shut up idiot. You d1ck ride nearly every 360 related article good or bad. Your always trying to downplay the 360.

[Sonyfanclubpresident]

I'll tell you why he d1ckrides every 360 article.
It's because you see this worthless site is overrun with GAYSTATIONERS,
just like ball Saaking up above you.

To top it off,him and a couple of other POS gaystationers have at least 30 accounts to debubble and bubble up whoever they want.
And to further top it off,they're most likely the actual mods of the site.........funny huh?

Makes one wonder if Sony payrolls this crap site......hmmm?

I haven't been here a while and now I remember why.

N4G
the gaystationers paradise!

lol.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

They will work it out. I think MS wants to keep the FF franchise alive on it's console and missing on FFXIV will be big even if it is an MMO.

I wonder if they will launch simultaneously? Probably will.

I don't think I will be that into it.. Never been a fan of MMO's but I'm sure it will do good on 360.

[Stryfeno2]

*Yawn* Versus XIII would be better...Let see what happens during TGS. Square has been tight lipped on Vs XIII. I wonder why?