Microsoft's Xbox 360 console is due a refresh, but will we see a redesign for the upcoming Valhalla revision?
Um do i dare make a joke relatin a 360 slim, prod and a house fire? Ill let sum1else do it 4 me - Nelson lol
a what? xbox 360?
read the article Valhalla is the rumored new Version of the Xbox360. This might be a Code name for Natal + xbox 360 coming together.
Is the Valhalla something people (nerds) will go hunting for?? Like they did the Jasper?
I guess the disagrees I got in my above comment are from playstation fanboys who did not read the article and saw the * where it's written that Valhalla is the rumoured new xbox model.
They want a smaller box? 54% isn't enough?
@morganfell That's low man. But sure did make me laugh. I don't see MS doing a new 360 ever. They are a software company. If they did new hardware they would risk higher fail rates.
Is this thing going to be made in Afghanistan?
Microsoft wont do anything. You'll see a price drop of the Elite to $300 with the SKU being available in both black and white, the discontinuation of the XBox 360 Pro console, the arcade being reduced to $175 and a price reduction of key peripherals. Microsoft is going to continue to focus on software and 3rd party revenue until it launched another Halo title with Reach next fall and Natal.
I don't believe they will make external hardware revisions. This new model might have a new chipset (though i think they're content with the current one) but I highly doubt that they spend money developing a new external look. Natal inclusion sounds possible but they wouldn't really want something like that as the sticker price would go up on that model and it would be unappealing as it would (almost certainly) be above $300. The competition would be great though, sony with blu-ray, ms with natal.
I love it when people complain about random disagrees and get even more disagrees lol Hardware revision may not be a bad idea especially with NATAL coming thru.
I think there concentratin more on Natal (which aint a bad thing)
MS response will be a price drop of the 360. That has been stated for well over a week.
i dont trust them with new hardware
Ehh too early for this i guess :)
.... edit: Why'd you edit your comment? you scared?
360 + Slim = Disaster waiting to happen ;-D PS3 + Slim + Price job = Best value for money ;-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sir ken Kutaragi
They need to vindicate the Jasper first.
To something that was in response to something they did?
cause that pattern right there is what has made this generation so amazing.
they need to get this one working first
and being able to handle demos and not overheat
They just raised the price of the Arcade in Britain and removed a cable from the Elite. So in all honesty they can't claim a Arcade price drop after just rising the price. The only console that's probably getting a price cut this year is the Wii and that'll be at TGS.
slim is far away from M$, and the only thing they can do is to rush the next Xbox
I doubt they will do anything at TGS either. I'd imagine they will announce some XBL upgrades as well as some new game footage, but the 360 is way past its prime at this point.
When they cant even fix the rrod now why would people even think they could make a slim and if they did make a slim and it works i would be pissed that they never even attempted to fix the rrod when they had the recources for it.
At this point: it's "too little, way too late." MS can't stop the worldwide phenomenon that is PS3 Slim. Try harder next gen. :)
Is this a joke post? They are 8 million ahead and you are talking about MS failed or can't do anything. You realize dumb sh*t like this has been said by you and other fanboys since 2005? How many times do you need to say the same stupid comments?
8 million ahead doesn't mean much when your console was released almost a year and a half before the ps3. Geez, people forget so easily that the ps3 didn't launch at the same time as the 360.
LOL EEDAR just reported PS3 23.8 million and 360 30.2 (according to both companies financials.) MS is screwed royally.
What the F%$K is so special about the slim? still the same old games mate>? just a little cheaper for the hardware? I mean why the hell are all you gimps soooo excited because sony moved some hardware from a huge bod and put it into a big box????
Right like mentioning PS2's 18 month head start on the Xbox right? Right?
That is true but the ps2 bathed in the xbox's blood. Those two console aren't even comparable when it comes to sales figures while the 360 and ps3 are a lot closer.
slim chance it wont be loud slim chance it wont catch fire slim chance it wont go to slim60 heaven
tgs is on sept 24th ... so we'll have to wait and see ... valhalla boards are coming thats a given... rumoured to be by fall of 2009... but like the author says there are too many accessories out there for the current 360 model and an outter design change as drastic as a ps3 slim wont be likely ... but an increase in hard drive space sounds better... and any game from rare would be appreciated... what are those guys upto ?
It will be like this. Arcade/Elite/Elite bundle'd w/ Natal.
arcade (with the 250 mb memory upgrade) elite will be the new pro new elite with 250 GB or more HD (maybe wifi) But I do believe they will have more natal bundels.
with reports coming in that the jaspsers are still RROD prone, will anyone risk buying another new revision like this?? a price cut from microsoft will do little as a response either. nobody is sitting on the fence thinking an xbox is too expensive now are they? xbox market is near saturation.
Idk, but can MS afford to drop the price even lower? If they do drop it, it will be to only compete with the PS3's new price.
MS simply does not need do this. Sony released Slim and lowered the price trying desperately not to stay too far behind 360 and Wii's sales. This is a logical move. Yet Microsoft does not have to change anything in their strategy right now as 360 is selling very well. I hope PS3 slim will help Sony to be a little more competetive as competition is always good for us.
Considering the 360 price point, it should be flying off the shelves. But it's not, the wii is putting it to shame and a more expensive ps3 has sold equal if not better than the 360 for the past 3 years. Now with the price cut and slim ps3 I believe MS desperately need another price drop to keep up.
I agree Nexy, well said. Especially with groundbreaking technologies like natal about to happen upon us, the financial position that MS is in with the 360 seems very comfortable to the one Sony has to endure with its ps3. A price drop of the ps3 will undoubtedly make it harder to recoup ps3 losses for Sony, but will make gaming more affordable for the consumer, in the long run. Thus MS can sit tight for now and chose which action to take, if that is necessary, in its own time.
MS can do whatever they want, it won't change anything. The 360 has been affordable for a while and people still don't buy it which means people just don't want a 360. PS3's been expensive and people STILL buy it which means a price cut will make sales shoot up a LOT.
people don't buy the 360? wtf!
RROD is basicly a thing of the past. Where does this guy live? 5 years in the future? RROD is not a thing of the past. My 360 RROD on me 3 months ago, with more reports recently from GamesCom that other 360's are RRODing. RROD is not a thing of the past, not yet at least.
RRod isn't part of the past yet that is sure there are 5 revisions already in the market, jasper would be the end solution if we would believe Microsoft. If you have had rrod in the light of this article it would be worth mentioning what kind of xbox revision you have.
gotta fix the rrod first
LOL! What are the PS3 fanboys doing here?
because its talking about both systems idiot........
If I remember rightly the Valhalla Chip will be a combined cpu/gpu. I'm not a techhead or anything but doing something like that can only help further reduce hardware problems right? Can someone with a little more knowledge shed some light on this?
which model of the 360, the $199 or $299?
Sony had the success of PS1 as well as Japan as support to back it up people knew the PS1 was successful so they obviously expected the same results MS didn't have any of that with the 360 and yet it still outsold PS3 maybe not as big of a margin as the PS2 vs the Xbox and cube but still so If the PS3 had the consumer base of the PS2 to back it up what's the real excuse and don't try to bring up price DC was $100 less and come out a year before the PS2 it still got slaughtered and had to retire in the end Sony Fanboys come on I'm waiting also keep in mind the 360 did not do well in japan so it's obvious the lead of 8 million isn't because it came out early btw MS never announces any pricecuts the moment sony announces one for the PS3 they always wait a few weeks as soon as the PS3's sales start outselling the 360 for a month MS is just going to announce another pricecut to counter leaveing sony pretty much high and dry in terms of sales
MS having been testing their so called 'slim 360' but have yet to find a solution to RROD, that's why Sony's beaten them to the punch! MS had it with the Xbox 1 then lost it all with the 360 - [fact: 360's the most defective console in gaming history]...
I like how Microsoft and Sony are fighting to the death for sales and fan, and Nintendo is just minding its own buttered wax. ( I AM NOT A FANBOY TO ANY COMPANY, I PLAY AND SUPPORT EACH CONSOLE! )
They have yet to pick up a towel and dry off from swimming in all the money they have printed with the Wii.
I thaught a new SKU of 360's were suppose to have a terrabite HDD then i heard they are getting bundled with Natal. As for a 360 slim I can't see it either the orginal 360 is not even full proof for reliablity yet and a new article says the Mass Effect 2 demo is over heating 360's can someone actually picture a 360 slim melting when playing a game.
I don't know about a "slim" 360 but the thing definitely needs some kind of redesign. Even if its just an internal one. Also a 1tb HDD would be great.
How about they fix it from overheating in its current box, rather than try packing it into an even smaller box. Their RROD failure rate will jump from being in the 50% to like 100%.
If they do I hope they will make it a lot better looking than what sony did with the slim(beurk) cause I like a lot more the fat one.
no response needed Xbox is doing great and is a heavy weight champ, remember you have to beat the champ to be champ, NTDO do not count because they are just a DS hand held in a semi console box can't compare with Sony and Xbox, Sony is sweating, they have lost alot of cash with their over priced sci project, cell processor structure and free service, look under the surface to see the real problems that Sony do not want you to know. MS overheat problem sci project gone bad but not lost because they charge for service and other things ( can you say extended warranty) live and learn . I love this battle between consoles, keep up the good work, it can only get better for us gamers.
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