Insomniac talks: Not going multiplatform, new studio and more

Gamereactor met with Ryan Schneider from Insomniac Games, famous for being one of the best gamestudios to work at, to hear about their studios and their games.

[Stryfeno2]

Unlike all the PS3 droids hating on Valve not working their platform, 360 fans doesn't care if Insomniac goes multi or not.

[mrv321]

Well mainly because Insomniac has been making games on the playstation for quite a while now, this is like Insomniac returning the favour for helping them get to where they are today, and in return they get help to make games better with developers such as Guerilla... something third parties don't get.

While Valve doesn't owe much to the Xbox BRAND but have formed a loyalty of sorts without much in return as side from possiple money. Also the droids don't hate on the games they hate the slander, I have never heard Insomniac talk poorly about another console THEY just like making games on PS3 but Gabe seems to go out of his way to say stuff that can be considered poorly advised at best.

To compare Valve to Insomniac is quite stupid to be honest, both operate differently. And yes I understand Valve has loyalty to Windows seeing as it is it's main platform but to hate on another console seems wrong somehow.

[Maldread]

I`m sure a lot of 360 fans would (and should) be glad if Insomniac would make games for 360, even if they won`t admit it. Just as i`m sure a lot of PS3 fans would be if Valve did they same. Both studios are great if you ask me, even though Valve talks way more negative, while Insomniac has never said anything bad about 360.

EDIT : well said mrv321, have a bubble :)

[TheTruth89]

What?

You Gay? Yes!

I don't bother if Valve hate PS3, i'll take the SUPERIOR PC version of any Valve Game, and YOU stupid xbot, will play INFERIOR dvd capable 360°C mini-furnace version.

[_vx]

epic fail hahaha
those guys wont go multi cuz they know if they did the downgrade effcet of the Xbutt will crash their amazing games and a 60 player game on X-live will just crash the whole XL server

[PotNoodle]

There is a difference though, insomniac are in exclusive contracts with sony. Sony fund and own all their IP's (The franchise, name, everything). The only different between Naughty dog (owned by sony) and insomniac is that insomniac operate as a seperate company.

Whereas valve are not in any exclusive contracts with microsoft and the only reason they don't make PS3 games is because they don't have enough man power to do so.

[OmarJA]

Patchy boy got pawned again like a little girl.

[Maldread]

Considering Newell is the size of 2-3 men, are you sure they dosn`t have enough man power ? ;)

[A_Little_Girl]

youre just a jealous hick who cant afford a ps3

[ultimolu]

You sure as hell cared that FFXIII was going multiplatform. You sure as hell cared about those MGS4 rumors.

Shut the hell up. Not everyone cared about Valve.

[Stryfeno2]

I don't care...If they announced a 360 game next week, I will laugh at you droids on N4G, but it wouldn't change my life none.

Ask me if FFXIII matters...I laughed when it happened but if it never did I wouldn't care either way because JRPG is not my thing. Metal Gear Solid is welcome to the 360 any day or time.

[solar]

you babies are so butt hurt when someone talks bad about the ps3 its hilarious. i went out into my living room the other day...and i saw a ball of dust humping my HDTV. after a few seconds i realized it was my ps3 because i havent had a reason to turn it on in months.

"youre just a jealous hick who cant afford a ps3"

because he spent his money on a much better platform. a PC.

[bennyace]

How people say that the Xbox 360 doesn't have good games but they all play them on PC! Wonder why...

[Maddens Raiders]

I can't wait to play the next installment of the Resistance series - I love those games. These guys expose Gabe Newell for the obese disgrace that he is.

lazy devs they are not

[Nitrowolf2]

Please, don't mention him and valve clearly every dev out there that makes games continuosle for ps3 (exclusive and multiplat) are clearly better devs.

yah but they are not lazy, glad that they are getting use to the ps3 programming

[mdkgod43]

im glad there not going multiplat stay with Sony the best

[Maldread]

Yeah, hope R3 is on it`s way, even if R2 didn`t sell all that great. Even though i don`t care for Newell much (hey, maybe we should just name him Newman from Seinfeld instead, the similarities are many), i would like to see Valve games on PS3. Even though they isn`t the most tech capable company around, they do make good games.

[randomwiz]

insomniac makes crap games? R1, R2, R&C. Obviously you haven't played any insomniac games

@fermcr11
please see post 1.2 in the open zone. I don't think I can describe the valve situation better than he did.

[ultimolu]

Me neither. I don't care what anyone says. For me, Resistance 2 was really good.

And socomnick dear, get something called a reality check.

[Maddens Raiders]

that's true. It's just that I can't imagine Insomniac coming out and basically saying, "Phuck the XBOX360 hardware and the fans that play it," because that's basically what Newell (Newman) has been doing for the last 2 years. He, Kotick and Bushnell are all nuts; relatively speaking, imho.

To shun the PS brand and it's worldwide base, to me, just shows a real lack of maturity, history of the industry, and dedication to one's craft. If anything I'm glad he said it - the exposure of a fraud couldn't be more self evident.

[darthv72]

I honestly would like to see some of their creativity brought to a system like the ds/dsi. Considering the similarities of the ps3/360 it wouldnt be much of a difference for them to make a 360 game (be nice but wont happen). A varied platform with enough differences to warrent even trying to see what could be done is what they need.

PSP is very similar to the ps2 so there is nothing really challenging there. Wii with the motion controls are pointless as they could make a better motion controled game for the ps3. That really leaves only one platform that could really pose no real threat to any other competitor. DS/DSi. I think they could make a great game with touch screen interaction. Would it be a fps or action/adv game?

Considering their choice to remain ps specific I guess we will never know. Great talent they are and you can respect their decisions to remain specific but it does make you wonder if they have at least tried it to see if they could.

Respect to insomniac. Res 3 details at gamescom please!

[Sez]

360 only owner don't act as sonyfan do when it comes to dev's not bring their games over to the 360.thats the maturity level of the 360 fanbase. unlike sonyfan who feels that dev's that don't support their system are lazy or being payed from MS not to. we just don't care.

[morganfell]

There is a difference between Insomniac and Valve. Insomniac's decision to remain with a single platform IS NOT based on their inability to program for another platform nor is it caused by child like illogical hate for another system.

[Xi]

Valves decision to remain dedicated to 1 platform isn't based on their "inability to program" or "childish hate" but on their high standards of quality.

Valve develops on the 360 because the can provide the 360 with support similar to that of their PC games, and they do not have the in house support to do the same for the ps3. The last thing they want is to develop a product that has the same problems as that of the orange box, which was outsourced to ea-uk hence the lack of support. Like he said in the gttv interview if you happened to actually watch it instead of reading the 15 flame articles afterwards that completely ignored his argument and just bashed him for being pc/360 exclusive.

It's about quality for valve, not money, and definitely not skill, otherwise valve wouldn't have some of the greatest rated and highest awarded games ever made. Or some of the most highly praised modding and development tools available. Or some of the largest online communities.

To me it sound's like there are a bunch of people who are upset purely because they don't get to play valve games. Why does insomniac get a free ride? because they're PlayStation exclusive? People like you claim negative press about the ps3, yet in the last week there's more shots at the valve/Newell and Carmack for not being 'skilled' even though they're luminaries in their field. Not to mention Carmack being a huge supporter of opengl and is developing rage and id tech 5 for use with Mac's, and valve developing a ps2 version of half life.

People think the ps3 is harder to develop for because of the architecture, it's because of the tools. Tessellation, domain shaders, hull shaders, memexport function, unified shaders all of these hardware supported features were completely new when the 360 launched and developers had to learn how to use them, just like developers have to learn parallel programming on an asymmetric cpu in the ps3.

honestly, it just seems like people have stupid double standards.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

PS3 owners aren't hating on Valve because they make games exclusively on PC & 360 we know why but the hate is because of what he said about PS3 and how Sony should take it back and redo it to be easier that's the problem they complain about PS3 being hard and wants Sony to take it back to change it without them even making 1 game to justify there words and that's why ppl hate Valve and Gabe and call them lazy

[kwyjibo]

Really How many 360 specialists do you think Insomniac have right now? About as many PS3 specialists at Valve I guess.

[Guitarded]

Insomniac are paid to develop exclusively for PS3. Valve just knows the PS3 sucks and CHOOSES not to develop for the joke that is the PS3. Gabe owned all you dumba$$es and all you can do is call him fat and lazy. Losers!
I just hope that Gabe gets some help with his weight problem. It would be a shame to loose such an intelligent and talented human to the complications caused by obesity.

[OnlyOnN4G]

And they would need those "specialists" because of the 360's UNIQUE achitecture???
o_0

[Nitrowolf2]

I think allot of people took my comment wrong, my fault it sounded like i was saying valve is not lazy, i meant insomniac is not lazy, and valve is.

[QuackPot]

Don't give a frack about Gabe anymore - he's a diehard M$ fanboy.

Just gone back to playing Halo 3 again, and it truly is a great game. BTW Warhawk easily beats H3 for fun online gameplay.

I just hope Insomniac would just copy the pros from Halo 3 and put it in R3. Especially, I'd love to see R3 go MODERN WARFARE and include fully usable vehicles.

Had Resistance:Fall of Man been set in the modern era, had fully usable vehicles as well as epic settings and levels, inspiring sound track, fun characters, then it would have easily been as good as Halo.

Copy Insomniac, copy.

[Sarcasm]

Wow, a Resistance set in modern times would be F'in awesome! Note to Insomniac, make Resistance 3 in 2010!

[morganfell]

Ha ha ha OnlyOnN4G. Your comment was dead bang on the money. Bubbles.

[cmrbe]

No they are different.

1. Valve 3rd party, I.G second party.

2. Ted Price is a gentleman, Gabe is s fat princess. Nah just kidding. Its all good. Gabe apologise for his outburst so we are cool. They can develop exclusively for the x360 as long as they want.

[morganfell]

Which outburst was it for which he apologized? They have been numerous.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Valve and Insomniac couldn't be anymore different. Insomniac has been making PS games since it became a dev, Valve has always been a PC dev who puts out a console title every now and then.

If you ask me Valve is just too cheap to spend money dev a PS3 version that probably won't sell as much as they like. Look at what they're doing for L4D2, whether or not its worth 60$, when its the only game your company is putting out for the year, you pretty much have to put it at full price.

Valve is just becoming outdated. The Source engine is starting to get reallly awful looking, and their last two gamese(portal + L4D) were mods!

[GameGambits]

Resistance 3 better be next year. I played the crap out of Resistance 1 and 2. Though the storyline isn't the best I do enjoy the online gameplay to its fullest. :)

[Arizona Tea]

Yes

[QuackPot]

You got a disagree for saying Yes.

These kiddie 'tards that frequent this site are pathetic.

If you don't agree with the Yes then why not reply "NO" so we can ID you 'tard.

[ArsArcanum]

i disagreed with that comment since I don't think a yes no question was asked and hes not contributing anything at all with a one word comment

[wxer]

i gotta say it
Insomniac is one of the best devolopers out there

and thats a fact

[Sarcasm]

And not only for the games, it seems like in general it's a great place to work.

[N4GAddict]

good to see them sticking to one platform and maximizing its potential.

[evrfighter]

"good to see them sticking to one platform and maximizing its potential. "

thats the truth right there. I'm glad Valve decided on stickin with what they do best :D

[The-Warranty]

besides xbox live cant handle 64 player online

p2p FTW!

[OmarJA]

LMAO! so true...

[Seven_ate_Nine]

"besides xbox live cant handle 256* player online"

fixed

[v1c1ous]

are we gonna get some articles being approved going on about insomniac being no-talent scrubs? you know, just to be fair.

[callahan09]

Insomniac never said they weren't making games for other platforms because of the architecture and challenges of those platforms. They just aren't. No excuses. Just a decision. That's what distinguishes them from Valve. They make games exclusively for PS3 because they want to, it's not that they DON'T make games for other platforms because they choose to snub them. Their decision really has nothing to do with other platforms. They don't ignore other platforms out of spite or laziness, they just focus on the one platform that has always been there for them, working for the publisher that has always had their back.

[Maldread]

How about you watch the video before you comment ;)

[doG_beLIEfs]

I hope u r being sarcastic with that comment. If not, then see the 1st reply as to why there is as big a gap in being humble and NOT a blatant lazy fanboy developer like Valve as there is between the "creation museum" and reality.

They don't bash other systems or say things like the MS should just scrap the 360 and start over. (just like Gabe REALLY said about the PS3 in 2007)

Instead they say things like getting the most out of the machine, learning and building bigger and better games using the CELL.

Class and humility.....Insomniac does NOT get enough credit for what they have done ESPECIALLY with the so-called hard to develop for PS3. Hey, its so hard that they are pumping out over a game a year.

[The Wood]

watch the video b4 u comment... If you didnt then thats just dumb....if you did then thats just dumber

[ultimolu]

Please let people know when you're using sarcasm because that has got to be the dumbest thing I have EVER heard around here.

[Maddens Raiders]

your comment is spot on. I suppose that's the reason for all the disagrees.

[Jaces]

Sorry...I don't recall Insomniac complaining about the infrastructure of the 360, so they decided it was better to stay exclusive.

That's the difference between them and Gabe, they would take up a challenge rather than complain and whine.

[Wakka_]

LOL @ Sony fanboys. Valve actually bothered to work on the PS3; Insomniac hasn't even looked into the 360. Insomniac are lazier than Valve. At least Valve develops for two platforms, ya?

[Jaces]

Actually valve had nothing to do with the Orange Box port.

That was all EA, so ya.

[wxer]

@ Wakka_

actually its the other way around
working for the ps3 is harder
its like working with 2 or more platforms already
and they are working on more than one games
so they got there hands full already
and VALVE are mad
and they didn't even bother to do the port
EA did

and yah VALVE are lazy

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

let me ask you who publishes and pays Valve for the development cost answer EA and who publishes and owns every IP Insomniac games makes answer Sony . you got owned b!tch and 1 more thing FFX sucks

[kwyjibo]

Quote - "working for the ps3 is harder its like working with 2 or more platforms already"

If that were true, and it isn't, then Sony must have put together the most ridiculously stupidly architectured console ever.

----

Quote - "That's what distinguishes them from Valve. They make games exclusively for PS3 because they want to."

Yes, and Valve make games for PC/360 because they want to. There's no difference, other than Valve have been explicit in their reasons why, and Insomniac have been all lovey-dovey. Insomniac obviously have the better PR.

[Lifetrigger]

Keep making f'ing great games!

[Demon5500]

I like this studio I have both there games, and they were not as good as GOW 1+2 but they kicked it none the less, But I wish they would give it a darker edge, It kinda feels like a London version of Alien, that is the only thing that holds these games back, for me any way, And I know you guys wont believe me, But after Res3 that's it even tho they don't say they are but they have some thing in the works and it ant only for ps3:0 but you will never see the fall of man series on any thing other console other then ps3, but that is how the industry is going to go its better for every one, and the team of guys at the dev house are really nice they don't care about console wars, only about making good games and so be it cant wait for the 3rd.

[OnlyOnN4G]

Wow, you seem to be working your way up through sony's first and second party devs leaving everytime an article regarding any of them pops up. yesterday it was ND leaving, if sony doesn't drop the price of the ps3 and now, today its insominiac after they've released resistance 3, I think you need a new crystal ball.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

you are aware 1 of the reasons Insomniac has stayed with Sony since PSOne was because Sony pays them to make the games Insomniac wants to make and because Sony publishes all there games so after Resistance 3 they won't leave

[Blaster_Master]

I dont care if they go multi plat or not. I will be happy as soon as they kill the Resistance series and just keep pumping out next gen platformers.

[Blaze929]

I dont know why you got so many disagrees dude. I'm with you on that, to me at least, the Resistance IP fails coming from Insomniac. They need to drop it and FPSs all together. Leave the FPS to Guerrilla and Killzone now and go back to what they do best, platformers and fun games.

[QuackPot]

R:FOM was a very good new IP especially for a developer that's never done a FPS.

It potentially could have been as good as Halo had they spent more time on it and set in in modern times, included a sympathetic lead characters, epic settings and levels, awesome music and fully usable vehicles. But it still is a very solid shooter with so much potential.

Also, look what Naughty Dog has achieved with Uncharted. ND has its roots in platformers. Should they too have stuck to platformers only. I think not.

[pixelsword]

Or am I thinking of someone else?

[Sez]

why would 360 owner care if Insomniac doesn't want to make games for the 360. we are not like sonyfanboys biotching and moaning because companies don't want to make game for our system. it's not like 360 will stop selling because of it. we don't throw insults at a company because they don't want to either.

@ below.

honesty why would any 360 owner cry about Insomniac not making games for the 360? seriously why? halo may not have better graphic than resistance. but MP and feature wise is a far better game then resistance. keep the 64 player frag fest. thats all it's good for.

oh and by the way i own a PoS3. so if i wanted i could play any game on it. lol. so why would i cry j@ck @ss.

[The-Warranty]

wahhh wahhhhh no resistance only MOAR Halo!

wahhh wahhh

that about sums it up right?

[mrv321]

I just saw something...

You complained about fanboys... which is just but your evidence is flawes, since when hasn't 360 complained about the PS3? Last I checked the PS3 has gotten the most hatred.

[pushergreen]

would actually make money if they were EXCLUSIVE to the XBOX. There I said it, now squirm droids squirm!

[The-Warranty]

so whos squirming?

[pushergreen]

but not needed. Xbox has plenty of shooters and many other genres of gaming so really it is insomniac's loss not 360 owners.

[OnlyOnN4G]

R&C is a platformer not a shooter, something which the 360 lacks, therefore its your loss not insomniacs

[xdye017]

Who cares? Resistance sucks.

[The-Warranty]

.

[Sez]

you don't have to tell me i brought both copies used at gamestop. it's nothing for 360 only owner to get upset with. unlike the sonyfanboys with valve,epic, and other companies that support the 360 over the PS3. or don't make games multi-plat for their system.

[duplissi]

tsk tsk when will you ppl learn.......

my my so much hatred/loyalty for a amalgamation of plastic, silicon, and metal- that really doesnt matter all that much when it all comes down to it

[mantasis]

I'm not a big fan of their games, but I admire their loyalty as a developer.

[Double Toasted]

get laughed off of Xbox Live...fact.

[Tinted Eyes]

resistance online is great

if xbox owners accept the crap that is gears 2 online i think they will love resistance online

but they cant.....

[Double Toasted]

then I'm sure it is... great. Ignorance is bliss...

[Sez]

i asked a sonyfanboy the other day whats the most played MP online game on PSN. i have a good feeling R1,2 and KZ2 would either be at the bottom of the list or not on there at all.

[duplissi]

actually, theyre at the top my little brained fellows

[Sez]

care to back that up with a link. cause i don't see that any where on the PSN network or any blog.

[FlipMode]

poor 360 owners

its ok another halo will be good enough

[saimcheeda]

well said!

[Sagetech]

Well PS3 gamers get to keep Resistance and Xbox 360 gamers get to keep Left 4 Dead I guess that's fair.

[iTzNath]

Insomniac are great, nuff' said

[ipe]

why dont u put resistance or kz in ur ps3 and try to find game?

u ll find plenty of games(but u re blind bot who wont admit it) and mostly impportant almost perfect servers especially in res.games.Which sadly cant be sad for p2p on pay4 live.I know it hurts u to pay 50$ 4 p2p and loud screaming kids.But hey u still have cross chat to talk with other people.(i still find more satisfying to go out with friends and talk face to face)

btw.insomniac i cant wait for resistance 3,i know its coming next year:)

[Sez]

"I know it hurts u to pay 50$ 4 p2p and loud screaming kids" i have a job and don't depend on mommy and daddy to buy my games or system. so paying 50 for 13 months isn't a problem for me. i guess it wouldn't be a problem for you if you had the money instead of paying for a over-price gaming system when all you could aford is one or two games a year.

as far as the kids screaming part.LMFAO. you know what the beautiful thing about live. let me tell you so you and all sonyfanboys can get. see there a little thing called a MUTE BUTTON. i know it's hard to beleive that live has such a thing. but it doesn't stop there.no. that BUTTON allows me to mute anyone on the annoys me in the game. plus i could kick them from the room. but i guess you wouldn't know that since PoS3 don't come with headsets. so it's hard to tell who your playing with. and the best part about having a headset with my game system. i can better communicate with my friends with games like CoD4,gears,halo and all MP games. where as with the PoS3 i can't because not many people have a mic. guess with all the money they sent on the ps3. they can't aford one.

[RockmanII7]

Don't lie. We all know that you have zero friends.

[na2ru1]

how many times has those POS headsets broke? The little metal jack snaps since it's a cheap a*s crap

[gameman]

too bad bots now go back and play halo

[Ninjamonkey]

I love insomniac. The ratchet and clank series has always been brilliant and Resistance, whilst not wuote there yet, is really coming along and theyve got some brilliant ideas that no one else seems to come up with int he console industry.

Sony should be thankfull that Insomniac stay with thwm, they obviously love what they do and love working with one console. Even if it could mean sacrificing revenue.

[only on playstaychun]

Fact is that Insomniac are one of the most successful developers when it comes to create new franchises and producing games year after year. They started Spyro, which is a very critically acclaimed franchise in the PSone, and after it got sold the franchise just went downhill. It is still to this day a very profitable franchise. Same applies to Ratchet&Clank and Resistance. All quality franchises and all original, something which Microsoft seems to be lacking recently. So yeah 360 owners would have to be blind not to want developers like Insomniac producing games for them.

Valve on the other hand have only produced two games (soon to be 3) on consoles this generation, are all below par what the PC has to offer. No point bringing Valve into this...

[TrueStoryGuy]

The interviewer asks if the two Insomniac studios are going to work on the same game, or a separate game and the interviewee responds with an acronym like "TBP". The interviewer then responds to laugh and looks at the camera.

What did the interviewee say?

[GarandShooter]

He said TBD - to be determined.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

i love Insomniacs games i just started playing there games i rented R&C Future TOD and enjoyed it and i own all the Resistance games on PS3 ( suck on that b!tches be jealous lol j/k ) and i enjoyed them but i hope they make Resistance 3 closer to RFOM that game was really depressing and grim and hopefully Resistance 3 will look better than R2

[Pandamobile]

Hurr lazy devs.

INSOMNIAC ARE SONY FANBOYS FOR NOT DEVELOPING FOR 360/PC. HURRR.

This is how stupid Sony fanboys on N4G are.

[kewlkat007]

it's kewl though. Buy all the consoles and you don't have to complain.

Resistance 2 didn't do much to push that franchise to new heights. I wanna see what they do next.

[-Mezzo-]

Resistance 2 was the bomb, a game that everyone would love..............who owns a PS3..HAHAHAHAHAHA. jk

[-Mezzo-]

Can't wait for Resistance 3, i was surprised after playing Resistance 2 and see how much different it was from the first 1. great jo Insomniac.

[CryWolf]

YES! Insomniac is Sony only

[ico92]

insomniac ftw

[Saaking]

awww, too bad bots.

[rukia_chan]

and more games exclusives for ps3 ;)

[bruiser81]

I think what most angry x-box fans fail to see is that

1. sony owns most if not all the ip's made by insomniac
2. Unlike valve and ps3, none of insomniacs games have ever seen the 360
3. Insomniac have never bashed the 360

This is not the same as the valve and sony situation, not at all.

[Pandamobile]

Gabe bashed the PS3 because Sony purposely made it hard to develop for so that more companies would have to ditch their other platforms if they wanted to stand a chance at making the game decent on PS3.

Which a d1ck-move on Sony's part. Gabe had a good reason to bash the PS3.

[bruiser81]

Sony has always done that with every console, it is UNPROFESSIONAL to throw tantrums because a company sees fit to design their product a certain way. He has a right not to like it yes, doesnt have a right to be so immature and vocal. He has also complained about the 360 in the past, he one of those people you can't please. Besides that has nothing to do with the fact that insomniac has always been a 2nd party to sony. Valve is not a 2nd party to ms, it should be no surprise or outrage that insomniac chooses to remain a 2nd party when sony owns all the ip's they currently make for the system.

[only on playstaychun]

So its a good reason to bash the PS3 because it is harder to develop for, when there are other developers who have shown results no one would expect from a console? That is pure non sense...

[GarandShooter]

What the hell was Sony thinking trying to advance technology? We should all be loading punchcards into a system bigger than most people's living rooms to play the latest games.

[WaitStation 3]

Biased, sony lovers.

lol

[Mo0eY]

BU BU BU BUT the PS3 is the hardest system to develop for, and it cranks out Resistance 1/2 which look way better than lazy Valve.

Jealous?

[Timesplitter14]

Please let your new studio be in Montreal...

;_;

[Pandamobile]

It's in North Carolina.

We've got enough devs in Montreal.

Hell, Ubisoft Montreal has like 1200 employees.

[Unicron]

It's in NC and it's already open dude.

[RockmanII7]

didn't realize that their was a chance of Insomniac going multi-plat... oh well.

[SixAmpFuze]

Someone better make some blogs talking smack about insomniac for not going to the xbox . If valve doesn't want to go to the ps3 then valve sucks according to n4g crybabies so were are the insomniac hate articles.

[Figboy]

Insomniac is exclusive to Sony, because Sony owns the IPs that Insomniac develops, and they've had a great working relationship with Sony, and feel no need to branch off to multi-platform development because their games are doing well on Playstation consoles.

Valve REFUSES to do anything on the PS3 because they find it too difficult to develop for, and don't want to be bothered to learn the architecture. They don't have a problem with letting lesser developers port sh*tty versions of their excellent games over to the PS3 however, so PS3 fans get their regurgitated leftovers.

Unlike, Valve, however, Insomniac would much rather keep their games exclusive, than have a crappy second party team try and port them to another console.

if Valve would remain 360/PC exclusive, i'd have no problem with that, but they didn't need to make the comments they made earlier ("Sony should just apologize to consumers and have a do-over").

THEY were the ones that instigated this antagonism from the PS3 community, not the other way around.

a lot of Playstation 3 owners were former PC gamers that maybe couldn't keep up with the constant hardware changes of the PC in this economy, and decided to get a console instead for financial reasons (not having to upgrade your hardware so often means you have more money to spend on games). they chose a PS3 over 360 for whatever reason, and they may have been fans of Valve (like yours truly), who have a legitimate reason to feel shafted when they get, well, SHAFTED by sh*tty ports of Valve's games, and Valve doesn't care.

Valve has essentially said, "thanks for buying Orange Box, PS3 owning Valve fans, but you chose the wrong console, because we won't force EA to patch the PS3 version." and believe me, out of all the PC developers out there, Valve DOES have the clout to get EA to at least do a PATCH for pete's sake.

Valve has lost any and all respect i've ever had for them (and i've been a fan of theirs for a long time, honestly), and i refuse to support their products anymore, and i OWN a 360 as well.

any developer that behaves as unprofessionally as they have don't deserve my, or other PS3 owners consumer dollars.

if Valve just came out and said we'd much rather support the PC and 360 platforms. that'd be fine, but to think they tried to get some extra cash out of PS3 owners with a shoddy port and non-existent patch support is disgusting.

like i said before Valve started this back in 2006 with their ignorant comments, and now, financially, they have lost out on a large portion of potential income, and alienated what has proven, through 14 years of support, a fanbase that is highly loyal (Playstation fans seem to be very loyal to the brand, and have made the Playstation brand as successful as it is STILL).

i can't say i'm missing out on anything, though, because, honestly, Portal was the last Valve game that seemed to have the quality they were known for, because Left4Dead feels like a MOD of Half Life 2, not a full fledged game worthy of the slavering praise it gets (i own Left4Dead on the PC, and i just don't get the fervor over it. it's fun, don't get me wrong, but it's shallow and gets old after an hour).

Insomniac has released 4 FOUR high quality AAA exclusive titles in the past 3 years, with a 5th on the way in a few months. they've earned the respect of their fanbase, and the respect of the industry.

any company that wins a spot in the top three companies to work for on a yearly basis is clearly doing SOMETHING right.

[Pandamobile]

You people are so touchy (not specifically you, but PS3 fans in general). Jesus christ.

You think if some other company said that they didn't like the 360 as a platform that they'd get the same reaction?

No. PS3 Fanboys are the most insecure, immature, uncooperative and cry-babyish people I've ever seen online. Saying that they're worse than 360 fanboys is hard enough for me to say, but it's true.

[Unicron]

Panda... I don't care what you are a fanboy of, if you're a fanboy you're an idiot. There is a difference between a fan, and a fanboy. Anyways, I won't bash Gabe, it's his choice. However, what I do find amusing is that basically they have shrugged off development on the PS3 without even looking into it. They handed off Orange Box to EA. That coupled with his statements makes him look like a bit of a d!ck. But whatever, I have a PC, and I don't know why anyone would get a Valve game anywhere else frankly.

[Pandamobile]

Yeah, Valve games belong on PC.

But Valve DID do a lot of research on the PS3 early on in Orange Box development.

It would require a whole new Source engine to run properly with PS3 hardware. Porting stuff to the PS3 isn't an easy task.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Panda you're a fool. Do not classify the general consesus as fanboys. Just because 10 people are acting whiny and moany doesn't mean the entire 20 some million others that are in that area are the same.

I would appreciate if you stop doing this, because I feel as if you're calling me names. (seeing as I am a ps3 fan)

[Pandamobile]

You don't think it pisses me off when someone says that all PC gamers are pirates?

Fact is, most of the PS3 community on this site fits in with the generalization I made. Most of the Sony fans on this site are pants-on-head retarded when it comes to almost everything.

Most of them thing that the PS3 is some mythical super computer capable of out doing a $2000 gaming PC. All it takes like a PC for like $550 to completely decimate what a PS3 is capable of rendering.

But that's not all of you. Some of you normal people.

[Hudahudahuda]

I think Panda is just a hardcore Valve fanboy who is pissed that PS3 owners aren't too fond of valve and he percieves them to be the worst because of it.

[deshon09]

i don't think they ever would

and yeah insomniac has never bashed the 360 or wii gabe had no real reson to bash the ps3 but he did i dont think valve sucks but gabe is a fat lazy fu*k who need to go away

[PHOSADRA]

They have been with Sony since the beginning with
Spyro,Ratchet, and Resistance

Just like Naughty Dog with
Crash, Jak, and Uncharted

They will always be with Sony sink or swim

[-Mezzo-]

Thats what you call a loyal company, thats a company that stayed with their original place from the start didn't even left when the chips were down unlike many other betraying 2 timers .

[SixAmpFuze]

Theres nothing wrong with valve not liking or not wanting to make games for the ps3. There are many factors to this.Also nothing Valve/Gabe said was ignorant . the man doesnt like the hardware.Does everyone have to kiss sony's ass? Does he have to make games or say the Politically correct stuff because hes a dev? If valve chooses to develope game for the ps3 in the future then great if not oh well

[deshon09]

with you but how many developer do you hear doing what he did like i said it not valve that should get the hate it that fat fu*k gabe and Insomniac is respected world wide and have no reason to go and say well the 360 is a pice crap they don't have to do that they could make a game for the 360 or wii
they choses not to and the fact thay don't know how to say alot about i could see if they knew how to and just did not want to that not the case here gabe decided to bash sony console ok what ever all that tell me is he is just not as talented as other developers

[SixAmpFuze]

Why should he get the hate. in his opinion the ps3 is is a waste and the hardware is yucky. Whats wrong with that. We all know the ps3 isnt a waste but we do know that many devs dislike how sony made the ps3. So gabe newell just expressed his opnion just like Jaffe and any other dev or person does. Hell look at N4G everyone wants to kill gabes babies because he doesnt like the ps3. Are they right ?

According to Gabe he has stated an so has other devs that youcan get the same game up and running in half the time on an xbox than a ps3 and right now the xbox is in the lead and its cheaper to dev for so whats wrong with his statements. They are personal and business

[kaveti6616]

"Well, explain this to me. A company wants to compete against another company by taking away marketshare. So said company makes a very complicated piece of hardware that is time-consuming to develop for and does this for the sole purpose of forcing the developers to abandon the competing company's hardware and only work with that piece of complicated hardware. Sony purposely did this. I think that's a pretty D-bag thing to do, and they did that. If Gabe Newell doesn't want to waste his time on that hardware, then that's his prerogative. He is no fanboy. The 360 is easier to work with. You can get the same results out of the 360 with half the work. Why should Gabe spend more time than he needs to?"

[gano]

To some surprise, people do take pride in their work.
If you u can't see the art or beauty in it don't buy it.
But never tell a REAL artist to how to do their job, never.

[PHIL1017]

TOOBAD! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! thanks to IG stay on PS3 only. get out of here, 360 fanboys!

[Enigma_2099]

... I would love to see an article like this get posted without someone trying to stir the s***...

[Djinn]

Insomniac is awesome. They should always develop for the Playstaion.

[Wurider]

They are really putting the Ps3 over the top this generation!! LOL

[sak500]

Keep this stupid studio for failstation3 we dont need copycat devs who can't even copy right. lazy over paid devs like that aught to sink with the titanic like platform they are so much in love with.

[CernaML]

Yeah... that doesn't sound like pure jealousy.

[fuckoffodion]

you're still a piece of sh!t.

ODION, you f*ckface...keep banning you MS butt-loving f*cka.

[mrv321]

What 360 only owner wants a 8 player co-op game which is designed around 8 players and have a leveling up system, a bright and different singleplayer with great cutscenes and varied combat plus cool and varied weapons and bosses and a 60 player multiplayer which work...

None, they all like grey, dark shooters who have a lackluster story...

MARIA!!!

sorry, that happens

MARIA!!!!!! CRY SOME MANLY TEARS!!1

I'm really sorry these cutscenes are breaking up awsome gameplay.

MAAA...*KABOOM* there I shut the whiney Dom up *loud claps*

Now back to awsome gameplay.

[Cajun Chicken]

One of the great last platform game focused developers. I also like how creative they are, they certainly like designing their unique weapons and gadgets.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

If Insomniac did go multiplat then they would make a game that would max out the 360 within the first 2 days of development that's how talented they are.

[Jack-Pyro]

If a company could make a game that maximizes the potential of a system in 2 days, I would declare them witches!

and what do we do with witches...

*townspeople try to figure it out*....BURN THEM!!!!

*All together* YEAH, BURN THEM!!! BURN THE WITCHES!!!

[josephayal]

INSOMNIAC IS %128 BETTER THAN VALVE

[modest-genius]

Don't compare Valve with Insomniac.

Insomniac develop only for Sony like they have for almost every single game. They have a good relationship with Sony, that's why they do it.

Valve are just lazy ****'s who can't be bothered to learn how to make games on the PS3. They are lazy and don't wish to challenge themselves. They don't mind leting other people do s**** ports of there games for PS3 so they can leech PS3 owners money.

[SixAmpFuze]

u r a fool. nuff said .

[UP]

they are nothing like valve insomniac has never bashed the 360 multiple times heck ted price has a 360

[Thoreau]

when a developer decides to develop games for one sole console. behind the scenes during the creation of the game, the developer can use a console's full potential and not have to worry about another systems spec's.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

ummmmmm........???

*steps away from the weirdo*