Rumor: AV-centric Playstation Not Far Away

A new Playstation could be less than 18 months away according to a Sony insider. The device will include the same chipset as the current PS3 but where it will differ from the current model is in the drive bay and in the attachment area. It will also include an extensive software suite for the managing of content being streamed to a TV or Hi Fi source.

Ken Kutaragi, the retiring chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment said in an interview last week that he clearly understands how the PlayStation game consoles should evolve in the next three generations, or fifteen to twenty years from now. He also said that in future it will be possible to create fully Internet-based game consoles.

[ITR]

Well that didn't take too long.

[23478ueyur_938223]

"The device will include the same chipset as the current PS3"

Sounds more like another SKU.

Whoops, that was supposed to be a general reply.

[ITR]

Maybe an Elite PS3?

[23478ueyur_938223]

I guess that's possible, though people would crap on Sony for eating their words. (If you remember back, they said something like every PS3 customer being "elite.")

[QuackPot]

....PS4 in 18 months...
....PS3 maybe the last console made by Sony...

ALL BS.

To us sensible folks who have no intention of misleading:

...PS3 with improved A/V function(most likely slimline) in 18 months...
...PS3 won't be the last console from Sony with future gens(4,5,6) maximized for the net & A/V...

Clearly we enlightened folks sees things as they truly are.

By the way: Ken had to go. He made too many mistakes with the PS3(delay, pricing, underestimating the competition and developers). But the PS3 will recover in 2008 when the games library size and quality grows, net service improves & price drops.

Now if only the true open-minded gamers would be so patient as to wait instead of passing judgement already, only six months after realease. But alas, u can't teach an old dog new tricks.

[DeadlyFire]

It is indeed the slim one. They always come in the 3 year mark. You can bet that this will cost at least $100 less than PS3 price tag. I do believe that a price drop may come in July-August on the PS3 though.

[Lord Anubis]

lol, what they are talking about is the AV PS3 not a PS4

[23478ueyur_938223]

Care to explain what it is exactly? (If you've any details on it.)

[Blasphemy]

This is bs theres is now way they are going to release a plastation 4 in 18 months. maybe a ps 3 slimline but not a ps4.

[Bill Nye]

Incredibly misleading.

[VirtualGamer]

This just in from our Tokyo bureau: according to an interview conducted by Japan's Impress, Sony's Ken Kutaragi has gone on record with a "promise" for what he's calling an AV-centric PS3. In other words, audio and video capabilities first, gaming second (if at all), in a device built around the Cell-processor platform. Ken says that the device would certainly be more expensive, reflecting the prices and margins expected on high-end consumer electronic devices such as TVs, Blu-ray personal video recorders, etc. -- not the relatively cheap, but powerful gaming rigs sold at a loss under Sony's Computer Entertainment division. Impress speculates that the device could cost as much as ¥300,000 or about $2,500. The new Sony-branded living room box would, in Ken's (translated) words, "be a standard AV component sized box with a more powerful, power supply unit, anti-shake insulator, twice the main memory, and 2x HDMI to split sound and video output." More Cell-processor devices in the living room? We say bring it, Sony.

http://www.engadget.com/200...

Hope this clears things up

[23478ueyur_938223]

Oh, cool. So I guess that'd be for people who have things on their mind ahead of gaming.

[MikeGdaGod]

i remember reading this months ago. it was said to be for those that weren't that interested in gaming, just high-end electronics.

[Keyser]

Yeah, I read this on Crave soon after the PS3 release (probably Dec). They said it would have that huge price tag also.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

from getting spun.

slimline. YES.
PS4. NO.

[SETBAK]

So much for the PS3 being future proof. They are already thinking about bringing a PS3.5, I mean, a PS4 out in 18 months. Once again, it looks like Sony might be eating their own words just like when they said that they wouldn't do 2 skus. LOL. Well now I don't have to buy a PS3, I'll just wait on the PS3.5, I mean a PS4.

[23478ueyur_938223]

Microsoft already made the Elite, now Sony is making something for users who have something other than gaming as the main priority.

Don't go jumping on your soapbox just yet.

@the guy under me.

You can get amazing quality gold-plated hdmi cables from amazon for $3.94. Better than jacking up the system price.

[kornbeaner]

Much like it took the Xbox 18 months, to release the 270 since the Xbox 180 wasn't gonna cut it. Lets release the "360" without HDMI a small 20gb HDD that is not upgradeable by the consumer, then 18 months later lets release a minor improvement over our current product. Hey who knows maybe 18 months from now you'll see a true 360 with all functions like Wi-fi, Memory card reader, a HD format playback support and a charge and play kit already included. Maybe in 18 months, maybe.

[DEIx15x8]

Maybe in 18 months Sony will finally give you HD cables with that $600 hunk of metal.

[kornbeaner]

when all you have to complain about is $20 cables, you shouldn't be posting anything.

[kornbeaner]

The same product with more computer functions. Pre-installed linux can be a possibility and maybe linux will have access to the RSX as well.
Or maybe it will be just a streamed line version, much like the change the PS and PS2 went through.

This can also be a japan only version much like the PSX2 was (member the one with a DVD Burner and other Viao like functions, member you member :D ).

If they release another SKU like the 360 elite that will be weak!!

[Kyur4ThePain]

uh-huh.

[Neutral Gamer]

The title should be something along the lines of:

"PS3 Elite not far away"
"PS3X not far away"
"Updated PS3 not far away"
"New PS3 SKU not far away"

Putting "PS4" in the title is just a way of garnering attention and it's worked, although in fairness the original article was actually to blame as that's the title that SmartHouse.com used themselves. It's already on 160 degrees after being published 16 minutes ago so it's worked pretty well.

Still I ain't got anything against the contributor, NewZealander, I'm sure us contributors have all changed / not edited article titles which are slightly out of sync with the article itself, one time or another when it's in our favour.

It's worked out pretty well for NewZealander though and it's something they don't teach you in the guidelines but some people pick up pretty quick! Haha. At the end of the day surely the buck stops evenly with those who approve the stories as much as those who submit them?

[AirForceAcademy2012]

How do they expect to release an upgraded ps3 when it took so long to release the first one....one word, DELAYS

[Bonsai1214]

rumor... now, i bet all my bubbles that 360 fanboys will jump on this like the flies they are to poo..

slimline ps3 i can see happening, "ps4" not so much

[marionz]

with comments like that you are kinda asking for the fanboys to attack

[Ps3007]

Some of you are beyond guliable.

FAKE!

[Azurite]

There's a minimum of 4-years per console iteration rule.

[INehalemEXI]

i want to see a ps3 5 disc changer. I tired of having to eject discs all the time. cd players do it come on people give us something usefull in these upgraded consoles.

[SETBAK]

oh man! now you are talking. a 5 disc changer that would be sweet!

[Silver Bull3t]

try burning off those cheetos fat-ass...

[userofbb]

Much like a Sony PSX2... This is a very old new!

PSX --> See on Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(DV R)

[marionz]

they had something like that that was only released in japan as far as i know, as for the ps4 with the way sony delays their consoles i wouldnt expect to see that any time soon
hopefully they get rid of the jaggies and haze that have become the staple of sony consoles

[artman]

it's also available for PANASONIC Q, where you can play dvd movies and playing gamecube. I was looking forward to buy that, but nobody import it to my country I guess... and I heard is a bit expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Frulond]

PSX existed tho was stupid imo and I saw PanasonicQ on sale at LikSang.com (before they shut down the site)
Both are kind of collectors stuff now I suppose specially the PanaQ

[marionz]

they should add a reset button and when they redesign the controller they should have batteries that you can change

[Bathyj]

Like others before me said, A slim PS3 or a PS3X, remember the PSX, only released in Japan.

PS4 !! No chance.

[gta_cb]

a slim line PS3 would be pretty cool :)

[drtysouf21]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Tell you what anyone thats posted before me that believes this crap i will buy you a PS4 if one is released within 18 months. Just like this article my statement above is also BS!

[snoop_dizzle]

look people complain about newer versions of console like the elite, but its happened a bunch of times. Look at the slim ps2, you couldn't even put a HD in even if you wanted, it was basically downgraded. But it didn't mean it sucked. Now granted Msoft didn't make the transition to the elite the best, but other than that it wasn't really a rip off.

But anyways video enthusiasts will buy this for sure if its true.

[warfed]

mini-ps3 and ps4 is different

[iceice123]

Media first gaming second. He kept his word, it was here all along.

[NewfZ]

Sorry, even if Sony wanted to gain ground in the "next-gen" it would be a joke of a console. Sony got off on calling the Xbox 360 "Xbox 1.5" but seriously, releasing a new console within the next 10 months is bull. It'd just end up being the PS3.3 because they already dumped enough money into the PS3, they can't afford another console right now because any expert in gaming would tell them straight up it wouldn't sell.

It's just not going to happen, no company would do that when they've just released their current gen console and people are finally starting to get used to it's architecture. Even then, no truly next-next-gen games are even being thought of so far, were finally just starting to get the true next gen games and Sony would be pushing for games to be developed faster then they're meant to be. It's like saying Gears of War 2 just came out and they expect Gears of War 3 to come out within the next 2 months with graphics that top Gears of War 2 and any game to come within the next 3 years. Unless Sony got a time machine, the PS4 isn't coming before 2010.

Even if it could venture into the dark depths and pull out a 100.6GHz 40-core CPU and a GPU from the bowels of hell's graphics department and release it in September, I wouldn't buy it or look at it. Why? Because the two placeholders for next-gen games and graphics are already out. If the Xbox 360 was released during the middle of the last-gen wars, it wouldn't of even mattered. The only improvements done in that gen would be the one Xbox already set, aka, online console gaming. You can't force technology to move faster, so if a PS4 comes out all it will have is PS3 and Xbox 360 ports.

But lets say the PS3 has gotten a few years of development and software released onto it, then the PS4 is released with limitless power, then we'll start seeing some true advancement in gaming technology. Consoles are just placeholders for the software. You can give the software all this power, but the software can't utilize all this power without knowing how to utilize it which takes years. Hence why God of War 2 looked as good as it did then you look at a first gen PS2 game and it looks like it came off the PS1. It's just how technology works.

So I call bull on this so called PS3.3 from some website I've never heard of and I'll say it's not coming. I'm plenty happy with my Xbox 360 and the PS3 being the current consoles of this gen. Game on my friends, game on.

[artman]

dude, it's april fools no more,
very funny, is this NZ news??? if you wanna make any rumors, please use your common sense.

[FordGTGuy]

PS3 the "10 year console" ????????

[MikeGdaGod]

http://www.engadget.com/200...

[ITR]

Well let's see Sony deny it first before we judge.

I'm almost half expecting a new 360(720) by 2009-2010
I know the Wii will update in 09' for HD.

So it might not be that far fetched.

[ErcsYou]

sorry, i meant mentally handicapped. they put ps4 in the title so their site would get hits, boooo. a av centric ps3 is what ken was talking about, maybe they had a hard time translating english. yes it will have a new drive, probably a blueray burner. probably even a ton of video/audio ins and outs. the sad part is this will cost anywhere from $2000 - $3000.

the ps2 also got a upgrade, remember the psx? if not take a look at the picture

[sak500]

People are hardly buying the bluray player @ $600 now they expect the videophiles to pay $2000+. Man those guys (sony) have really gone kkkkkkkrazy..

[Frulond]

http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

there's all the info about PSX
99,800 Yen = about 850usd

[BIadestarX]

It seems as if Sony is keeping an eye on their fans and doing anything they they don't want them to do. How many times did the xbox 360 get flame for the simple existance of the elite sku? Well, if this is true Sony will bring a new SKU that with features that the older SKUs will not have or can't be upgraded to have. Is this a bad move in Sony's part? I think NOT! I believe that Sony needs to keep the PS3 competitive and keep the console fresh. I wouldn't want to be playing with a 10 years old console. So, hells yeah.. I hope this is true. I think those days of console be super obsolete by PC should be over. Ofcourse no one of want a new SKU every year. But I think 3 years is good enough. if the console brings lots of new features... I can dig $600 every 3 years... What's interesting though is how Sony fanboys flame the xbox and look... sony is doing the same.

[MikeGdaGod]

this is an old story. see my comment at #24.1

as much as you're on here Blade, i know this isn't the first time you've heard this. the source just has a twisted title and new info from what has been recently reported in the news.

if this is true, it might not even play games

[BIadestarX]

@scottie2521, that besides the point. So, since it's obvious that Microsoft and Sony are following a similar aprouch (2 SKU launch, releasing an new SKU 2 years after the launch) then why wont SOny fanboys shut up about the XBox 360 elite and that microsoft betrayed their current fanbase? Why don't you post a similar comment when it's about the elite or an xbox 360 sku? Yeah, it sucks when it's about the console you love isnt?

And don't even try playing the "it wasn't me game" I have a nice direct quote from you.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

"i kind of agree with this point the most. i bought the premium model because i thought i was the "elite" of the two. shame on me for being an early adopter but to me this is bs. "

So, let XBox 360 have their fun now, the same way you had yours. Do you dig?

[X]

The difference is that the elite is on a store shelf and this is on a drawing board. If indeed this does turn out to be a new sku, not only do I think that there will be an outrage against it, but I think the outrage against it will be worse than what the elite got for two reasons. If this increases the system's functionality (not just HDD space), that will most likely increase price. And unfortunatly the price of 600 dollars (or insert price of your area here) is not exactly appealing let alone going above it. The other reason is unlike the 360 and the elite, this console has only been out for a little over 5 months. This will really rub the early adopters the wrong way. Even more than 360 early adopters. But until this is confirmed, then that's all this is. A rumor.

[MikeGdaGod]

sorry i went to sleep last night.

the difference is this might not even play games at all. it's a whole different system, i just might carry the Playstation title.

but from what i've seen today its just a bogus rumor anyway

[BitbyDeath]

Seriously who would buy it for 2000-3000? It'd have to poop out gold for me to want to waste money on that.

I call this article complete FUDD

[kingboy]

well sony said this long time ago,another model was works(something thing like psx for ps2)which is more of a digital multi media machine

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Could this be a third SKU for Sony?
Could Sony fans be eating there feet soon?
Are they copying Microsoft?

Hmm 10 year consoles are a thing in the past, we are now in a PC era for consoles. By keeping hardware up to date they can stay up to date with games and fix mistakes in earler console designs. PS3 fans minds are still in the 90s where gaming is concerned, this is 2007 guys people want online play right next to there campain and they want there hardware as fresh as the games made for them.

[AngryTypingGuy]

PS3 2.0 would be more accurate. If it can't play more advanced games, then it's not a PS4.

[dodgefate]

If you read any of these posts before you type you will see its not a PS4. (this is so old news I heard about it from jimi hendrix)

It is a media box that MAY! play games but main function is movies / music / ect. NOT A PS4 (wow, they work fast name & pic changed N4G i like your style)

- ITS PSX NOT PS4 & IT IS NOT A GAME CONESOLE!!!
- SO WHEN YOU SIT HERE AN TYPE WITHOUT READING IT MAKES YOU LOOK DUMB

an scrolling up an reading some of the xboxfans talk is funny READ comments before you post please.
(I know the site is full of fanboys but come on everyone can read)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

According to Sony and you PS3 fans the PS3 is already the ultimate media machine, so why would they make something that’s already here? Hmm. It’s got Blu-Ray, it can play music and it’s got a couple of games, so what other media could there be? Holographic?

“It is a media box that MAY! play games but main function is movies / music / ect.”
Excuse me but don’t thy already have this? (That’s right its called a PS3)

And isn’t the PS3 main function right now to play movies and then games?

To VGjunkie below
"4xblueray burner, 750gb hard drive, dvr, dual hdmi out and in, router functions, wireless n, rf in for cable, a/v in and out, firewire, liquid cooler,built in lcd screen, or ipod input. i have bought zero movies and 5 games in 2.5 months. dont make me feed your 360 to my ps3"

phff hahahahaha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahahahaha need to breath hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha someone break out the defibrillators aaaaahhhh haha ahhahahah hhahahahahaha best laugh I had in a long time bro thanks.

[ErcsYou]

my ps3 doesnt have:

4xblueray burner, 750gb hard drive, dvr, dual hdmi out and in, router functions, wireless n, rf in for cable, a/v in and out, firewire, liquid cooler,built in lcd screen, or ipod input. i have bought zero movies and 5 games in 2.5 months. dont make me feed your 360 to my ps3

[Clinton514]

Talk about misleading titles.

[Dogswithguns]

Fully internet-basd game console, now that's cool!

[power of Green]

I think what you said has some truth to it, its a game Sony does(or did) not wan't to get into. Sony tried to downplay that stradigy with MS's SKU's but now they realize what you posted and you're correct about mind-sets in the 90's.

Its probably why the Xbox gets attacked so much about certain things but becomes OK when the PS3 follows suit. Its going to take some time for the brain washed!; to return to realality.

Anyways buying a what you need is a must these days what divice can't you get in different SkUs etc; it was only a matter of time before the gaming industry cought up with the rest of consumer electronics.

Different versions of the same console purpposlly designed for different ways of use was coming as these divices are much more than just simple load game and play and thats it!, consoles.

[Cartesian3D]

I want a bluray burner.. and more pc like stuff.. I will buy it if it has New OS (LINUX based) for professional users...

[TriggerHappy]

Thats is all it really is, even though the ps4 will come, i don't think we shall be seeing it anytime soon.

[badkolo]

well maybe your looking into this all wrong, the ps3 was made with the cell and the rsx but just to mke sure its powerful enogh to run and play games from a network, like when you go into hotels and gametap.

Maybe the plans for the next system is no dvd drive at all and you play the gaes form siny servers of some sort and odnt nneed to buy the games at all making the console very affordable.

so you would log in form the ps3 an pick the games wait a few miutes fo rit to load and play, the say int his article its a ps3 bt with no bay drive ad someting else is removed, maybe no hardrive, and its 199, but you don buy games for t you play them form sony servers of some sort, sounds crazy but you never know, he keeps talking about network playing, playing games from a network

[FeralPhoenix]

I don't believe this "rumor" but I don't think its totaly ridiculous either....either way there's no need to bash this site for doing what every other site does to get HITS and every site SPECULATES on what they think will happen at least this guy is CREATING this rumor based on comments from Ken instead of just using the all too EASY WAY of making up a rumor, with the far too COMMON PHRASE:

" According to unnamed sources" [[yeah riiight]]

-which translated means, "Hey I need to make up something and call it rumor to get attention(hits)" -from what I've noticed the majority of these type of rumors posted on N4G come from fanboy type websites....I guess that's how they keep them awake. -lol

[Keyser]

This isn't a rumor its just an av device. Its like buying a ultra bluray player. It was on Crave in Dec.

I believe the 360 fans are just trying to get the Sony fans worked up. Everyone read VirtualGamers post and his link. This is old news.

360 fans are using this as vindication for the lashing MS took for bringing out the Elite that was not actually..."elite". Not appropriate.

Sony is bringing out a device that has little to do with gaming. Maybe 3 actual gamers will buy it as it was meant for movies and audio. $2500 is for the real high end crowd. $600 would not be a lot of money to pay for a receiver. That would actually be a pretty low price for one. One speaker would cost more than $600. This device is for those that drop $10K-$20K on their A/V equipment. I don't think that's too many people on this sight. (Not me...)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Yeah its called the PS3.

[Keyser]

Jason why do you pick out the parts of the story you like best?

Everyone is telling you what the truth is, giving you links to read it yourself but you refuse to believe it.

I understand being a fan of the 360 and not liking Sony and the PS3 but disregarding the truth makes you look like an extremist.

[weekapaugh]

yawn

[IBLEEDBLU]

PS3 isnt a game console? lol stupid remarks like that make you look sooo stupid

but its ok - after the end of the year and ull see PS3 maybe using 50% of its power and the game will blow anything that the xbox can do and then ull sell ur shoebox360 and buy a PS3

and this isnt PS4 - are ppl that stupid geez

its just a upgrade PS3 focussed on more of the HDTV settings etc etc - like more hdmi ports...its not like the core and the elite when people are getting screwed if u bought the core because they added new features - the PS3 has the features this AV PS3 will just have more of the features

ppl are stupid honestly

[sumfood4u]

Quit Smoking thoes Fruity Pebbles, an Printing Nonsense! PS4 in the works is gibberish! They might have a future job in the Enquirer news paper! My question 4 U! How are they gonna come out with a PS4 when they PS3 games, are barely even comming out? Believe It!

[artman]

this is more like bluray player can run PS3 game, and where PS3 is a console can run bluray movie...
remember 3DO from panasonic and sanyo? panasonic Q, a dvd player can play gamecube. psx is dvd player which can play PS2

but Panasonic Q is the most interesting one, coz gamecube can't play DVD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Keyser]

That's exactly what it is. They didn't use a lot of high end a/v equipment in the PS3 because the price would be too high ($2500) for most everyone but the niche that's into it.

They aren't going to bring out a device that 4 times the PS3 current price and try to sell it to 8-35 gamer demographic. Most people in that group don't earn enough money to spend that much on a/v equipment that can also play games.

This is a PS3 that meant for the 200 or 300 people that game but are more into the a/v side than gaming.

The current ($600) PS3 is meant for people who enjoy gaming along with quality, respectable a/v capabilities.

[neogeo]

60gig PS3 price drop to $499.99
200gig PS3 stays at 599.99
20gig PS3 dumped.

[Neutral Gamer]

Yeah the contributor was only copying the original source title, but sometimes you have to exercise your own judgement such as when people copy over titles in CAPITALS or with exclamation marks.

Just cos the original title has it, doesn't mean it's necessarily appropriate, we were all given common sense!

P.S. Thanks to all the people who took away my bubbles in my earlier post above. You lot do realise there's a DISAGREE button you could have just clicked right? You're only supposed to give negative feedback if a comment's offensive or completely off topic and pointless.

[timmyp53]

they talked about a av-centric ps3 a while back.. thats for sure.. but a ps4 in 18 months is out of the question.

[xp360]

I used to be into the whole wait in line for hours to be the first with the "new" system. But now I see that they are abusing the hardcore mass for profits then turn around and come out with a better version later knowing we will want it. Ive gone threw 3 360's to many and everytime I got a new one it would work worse then the last. Like they just shipped my old one back wit a new shell but same hardware until my warranty was up (lol) they are pretty slick . My girl owns a wii ive tripped kicked and knock that little piece of s#@$ everywhere on accident and nope it never breaks why? Now im stuck. Im no fanboi i just know when im getting scammed dont u? So ill just wait it out before i buy any new system from now on. I miss the good ol game days. now its money money money.

[Mighty Boom]

I just bought a 60gig ps3. Now There will be a new one! What the hell is slimeline??

[chavafx]

haahahahahahaha xbox360 out sell the ps3 in sofware in japan hahaha thats a new low for ps3 the only game in the list of the ps3 is in the no#70 hahaha good thing i trade my ps3 for a xbox360 elite on ebgames

[genericname]

Thats ok chavafx, grammar isn't everyone's forte. So when you get near a complete sentence, please let us know.

[marionz]

i have no idea what all that was about, the virtual laughfing is funny though

[Sly]

This is just great, i already have the present monster system worth $600 and Sony is already making another Playstation system with new features and all that good stuff worth again a big fat wallet of money...Another elite copycatr.