Xbox 360 Three Red Lights hardware failures persist with Jasper Xbox 360; What is a consumer to do?

You may have heard there are more Xbox 360 retail units coming soon. Probably with it, you may also be hoping that Microsoft has finally figured out the Three Red Light failure, also known as Red Ring of Death (RROD). Don't count on it. If you thought the Xbox 360's problems were solved with the recent "Jasper" Xbox 360 unit (reduced power consumption 12.1 amp unit with 65nm CPU and 65nm GPU), they were not. Read on and see various RROD failures within the last week, including the recent "Jasper" Xbox 360.

[Megaton]

About to enter your 9th 360? When you're that much of a sucker, you don't have the right to complain anymore. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 9 times, be gentle, and put it in slow.

[rivithed]

I totally agree with you. I would label myself, and any consumer, as a sucker that would have to deal with this going into the 9th Xbox 360 system. Were it not for the reason that I try to keep up with all gaming platforms on the website, I would have been generous to stop using the Xbox 360 at RROD #5.

[Megaton]

Well if it's business/website related, then you have an excuse. Any consumer going through more than a couple of these should be ashamed of themselves. You're just feeding the beast. (that goes for any and all companies who knowingly sell faulty products)

[gintoki777]

i got a red ring 1 time and switched to ps3 I was lucky though because I bought a 360 when it was $400 so I had bestbuy's warranty went in gave in the 360 went to a shelf and walked out with a ps3

[Maddens Raiders]

unacceptable.

[ultimatek1]

this is ridiculus, i have read about 2 or 3 x360 deaths, that even i wonder why, cuz of the free warranty for RROD, but 8-9 death consoles, this article is totally fake written by a ps3 fanboy. I myself love MS, but to buy a system for a 2nd time and it fails me again, i would never buy it again even if its free.

[ultimolu]

If you're going through a ninth console, then something is seriously wrong with you. If something breaks more than once, then it's your cue to stop getting it fixed.

Same goes for anything that breaks-not just a 360.

[Winter47th]

I don't exactly like anybody putting it in, but I had 5 Xbox 360s, yeah, go ahead and call BS and scroll down to the next post. But I'm a gamer, and the PS3 didn't have games that interested me till two years down the line, so the only next-gen system that was worth it at the time was the 360. But.my.god, it was THE most unreliable pieace'a **** console I ever had. everytime I turn it on I play KNOWING that any second now it'll flash me. not fun, AT.ALL.

Thank god the PS3 now have some steam going and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

This'll sound untrue to some but there's a valid reason why I dislike the 360, not because I can't afford it since I have a PS3. Not because you have to pay for Live just to have their royal permission that you can play..well actually this's another reason. But because as a console quality itself. it's garbage.

And man. Don't even get me started on how many 360s RRODed on my friends.

Edit:
Well you know what. I'll get started:
3 Elites.
5 Premiums.
2 Arcades.
1 Falcon Elite currently malfunctioning.

[2Spock]

Not only did this guy ride the short bus to school, but they went ahead and gave him the bus to ride it anywhere he needs to go.

I mean i understand he didnt have to pay anything until his 7th console but still. To much of a headache to put up with that many times.

[I_am_rushin]

Simple.

DON'T BUY FAULTY PRODUCTS!

[randomwiz]

I'm on my second... first one rrod because I was just careless... still on my second one from 2007 because I really took care of it, and I also bought an intercooler which helps a lot.

To say your going to get your 9th 360, you must just be REALLY unlucky, or just an idiot.

[Godmars290]

Simple to say, hard to do when you've been paying $50 a year to build up your e-penis and awaiting for ODST.

MS knows you're hooked and treats you like the old time junkie you are. Why else are they charging $4 for a virtual shirt?

[king dong3]

nothing better than an rrod or why pay for live thread for them to nash their teeth in.

i'm not saying rrod doesn't exist or is acceptable, just that this sh!t is old, and i have already seen a few sony loyalists in here already. it amazes me how much time they put into something they hate....whats even more amazing is the fact they hate a game console.

luckily, my nov2005 premium is still going strong, and my aug2007 elite is having it also(although after extended playing my elite starts to get noisier.

my ps3 on the other hand is as quiet as quiet can be, and in all the hours that i've spent on it, it has only locked twice causing me to have to switch it off at the back. but sonys hardware is reknowned for quality

[Boody-Bandit]

Obviously it's not old if it's still happening with their latest motherboard revision.

[HammockGames]

Great games. Dodgy hardware.

I love playing on it. But paranoid that every time I press the power button the wrong lights will come on.

I think most of us here are enlightened enough on the topic to know that buying a 360 is a calculated risk. Whether or not it's worth it to deal with the potential headaches that come with hardware failure is really in the eye of the beholder (translation: are the games worth it or not?).

[El_Colombiano]

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 9 times, be gentle, and put it in slow"

Best. Quote. Ever!

[indysurfn]

This guy writing this "article" sounds like a fanboy with a keyboard. Come on 9 Times? Even the PS1 and PS2 where not that bad on breaking down. You lose credibility when you talk crap like that. I had 4 ps1 and 5 PS2 I guess that makes me a sucker, along with the majority of ps1 and ps2 owners. But at least we don't have to pay for a replacement with a xbox360, nor shipping cost.

Then he goes on to talk about them not changing a chipset that is not even OUT YET HELLO. Unless a fantoy is putting the machine in a cabinet with a space heater nine times is no possible. I still have my elite and it has NEVER fail or had any error with the abuse it has recieved including getting pulled over, and getting kicked.

[Poopface the 2nd]

and that she asks others with rrod to share their experience.

My 360 never had a problem and Ive left it on for over 10 hours with a game paused.

My old 360 that I sold to my friend got 1 red ring and he got it replaced(I told him it would break before I sold it to him especially if he kept it on the carpet like he did).

I got a 2 year warranty from BB and if it doesnt break within the 2 years, Ill break it myself to get a new one.

I wouldt keep going if I had that many, but maybe im just special, as ive never had any break on me.

EDIT-- ahhaahhaahha. If you dont believe me that ive never gotten RRoD then I dont believe you ever had a 360 unless you people put your GT in your profile. YEAH thats what I thought.

[njr]

At this point they should just redesign the console instead of having all these code names for 360's that are supposed to fix the RROD, but don't.

[Sibs]

Indy, just because you are lucky doesn't mean everybody is. Plus, why would he lie? He himself said he was a 360 fanboy for a time.

[shovelbum]

Seriously? If anyone is on their ninth 360 then they are truly ignorant to the electronic world. Is he wrapping it in a parka and placing it in an oven during his gaming sessions? I have no doubt that RROD exists but I still have a launch version that works fine as well as an elite from a couple years back. I keep the elite on its side inside a cabinet (open face) with two 4" computer fans drawing air from the front. No issues whatsoever (I do the same for my Denon 2310) and I play some long gaming sessions on occasion. You sometimes need to be smarter than the piece of equipment you are using.

[Information Minister]

Are you serious? None of Sony's systems ever had a 30% failure rate.

I had a PS1 for 6 years before I gave it away. Last time I heard it was still going strong. My 7 year old PS2 worked fine just this morning when I turned it on for another session of Persona 4. And I don't have to pray to the game gods everytime I press the power button on my launch 60gb PS3.

BTW why would you kick your 360? Was it Ikaruga?

[chaosatom]

It's time to switch to a PS3 after someone goes through their 9th xbox.

[leila01]

So... this is where the Playstation fanboys hang out... Nice.

[talltony]

So much for the rrod proof jasper chips. Their is no escaping the inevitable rrod unless you just say F it and get a ps3 of course.

[Raoh]

LMFAO

bubbles for you

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

That's funny, cause I have two Falcon's with heavy use and no problems. I have a friend that suffered RROD on a launch 360 a year ago, and bought a new one after selling the fixed one. He then later got disc read errors.

Another guy I know, bought a 360 and got the RROD as well, but this were all older machines.....

[JokesOnYou]

I like how people can say "well its NOT fixed because its still happening"...yeah that makes a lot sense, I guess then we should expect none will break after the Jasper models= NO...where's the links of 360 forums filled with complaints like before? What did they all over a sudden all just not care anymore?....pa pa please, anybody can write a blog with qoutes from 5 people about hardware failures and say that nothing has been done..we know ps3 is reliable and yet there are tons of reports with a few gamers saying there ps3 went ylod...its just easier to make it seem like the problem is still widespread because of 360's history. I have tons of friends and read lots about 360 hardware news and I haven't come across anything to suggest the failure rate is anywhere near what we saw up to 1 yr after launch....if I'm wrong I'd really like to see links.

JOY

[jack_burt0n]

that is the cold harsh truth, imagine a gfx card with a failure rate like this, it would be taken off the market within a week. Yet after years they haven't fixed it that is NUTS.

[Vip3r]

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 9 times, be gentle, and put it in slow. "

I lol so much at that.

+Bubbles.

[50CALheadshot]

only blind fools would support crap hardware like this. Im surprised the failing units have not started housefires.

my ps3 has been on for 24 hours at one point with movies and games......no problems.

hell ive gamed for 4 hours, left and returned to see people still using the ps3 in my crib. AND you know what? I have never had a problem with it, or felt fear from turning it on.

[Game13a13y]

so what if he's not really on his 9th? so you mean to tell me it is okay to be on his 5th then? any high tech electronics that break more than twice are pretty unacceptable already, let alone its coming from the richest company on earth, which they should have all the resources and specialties to make their product well you know, not break?

[fishd]

you think 9 rroded 360 is too many?Then check this out:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The guy is on his 12th!!!! 360.

Check post #5 and #45,with factual evidence and everything!

[GameForFame]

surprise

[Traveler]

I'm a big fan of the PS3 and it is my favorite console, but this isn't fair. You can't use a few anecdotal reports to claim that there is still a widespread problem with the newer 360 chipsets. I've heard far fewer reports since the new chipsets have come out and all the people I know who have purchased one have not had any problems yet.

I had the RROD with my 360 early on and I know how maddening it can be. It was also part of the reason that I came to like the PS3 better. All I am saying is let's be fair. This analysis wasn't fair.

[kunit22c]

Nine 360's... I would have gave up after either the first or second, I would just find this unacceptable, your console shouldn't break down because you play it! Thats just ridiculous! Microsoft should be REQUIRED to not sell anymore 360's until this problem is permanently fixed! I cant even believe people are still buying the 360. Right when RROD was found out they should have had a recall and should have fixed the problem, but noooo then Microsoft would loose some money and we just CANT have that. Also Microsoft has you pay for online for this faulty hardware! Microsoft is just trying to suck all the money out of your pockets arn't they? Also with what that guy said up there^ 4$ for a virtual T-Shirt! Just wow... Microsoft needs to get their act together and stop being so retarded!

[Raz]

If my PS3 failed on me more than twice, (still playing the launch 60g, btw) I would say "screw this crap" and go buy a Wii or PC.

I mean, f@ck brand loyalty. For my hard earned $, I want something that works.

Contrast that with people who are on their 5th console and still vehemently support it. It's like a battered wife who says "it's ok, we're in love" and keeps coming back for more abuse.

Sad. Really sad.

[cmrbe]

but the truth is i know seven people with x360 and all but 1 had at least 1 RROD with 9 people with PS3 and just 1 Blu-ray read failure.

The fact that most of you x360 fans have experience or know someone that has experienced one is just even more proof that this problem is huge and still happening.

For those that are bring up the PS2 don't be stupid. We all know the PS2 hardware problem was not nearly as bad as this RROD and it definitely didn't last for nearly 4 years and counting.

I have no idea why some of you are still defending this. Its beyond ridiculous now and MS should really have fixed this by now. The x360 hardware is the biggest joke in history.

[Chimerhazzard]

I can't believe how people continue to buy these things. There sure are a lot of folks with a lot patience, money, and dumbness. When I make a purchase, I want to get the most out of my money. Sure I could waste 299$ on a console that still uses DVD, has a 33% chance of RROD, has pay-to-play online, has pay-to-have wifi and only has 3 really good exclusives (Halo 3, Fable 2 and Gears2). Fortunatly I am not dumb enough to buy a console based on advertising alone, so I prefered to invest more 100 bucks and get myself a PS3, and I am happy with it so far. Great exclusives, awesome features (I love being able to use any plug-and-play USB controller I want), works great, free online, free wi-fi, blu-ray player. It puzzles me how the Xbox360 got so far... I guess it's due to all the advertising and the poor PS3 launch.

[morganfell]

Since the 360 is so ultra reliable it remains a mystery why MS publically announced and threw away 1 billion dollars for warranty service on a non existent problem.

Not 1 million, (cue Dr Evil imitation) but rather 1 billion dollars.

[NewZealander]

it also comes down to how you look after the console, personally ive never had the red ring, not naturally at least, i forced my launch console to overheat so i could get updated parts.

i own two 360's and have had no real problems, but i keep the console clear from other devices and it has room to breath.

my friend got a 360 last week and hes got it behind glass in a small space with a HDTV decoder sitting on top of it, i tried to tell him hes going to kill it but he didnt listen, so im ready with the "i told you so)'s.

that kind of punishment would eventually kill any device, the PS3 having a curved top was a smart move, stops all the idiots that think consoles should be a stacking system like my friend.

[morganfell]

^^^^I completely disagree. And so will a great many other people. I have always, ALWAYS had my 360's in a well ventilated location and the RROD persists. Are there people that have blocked them into a hole. Yes. But plenty of people have done everything but strap their 360 to an aircraft propeller and RROD still comes calling.

[Headshot81]

This is coming from the heart to all 360 owners. Which ever xbox your on(1,2nd,3rd...or which ever) if it breaks down on you one more time, tell MS TO GO F@CK THEMSELFS, send it in one last time and get a working one back. Sell to a stranger or trade it for money , use the cash to buy another gamming system (wii,pc,ps3). Even Ps3 is having a price drop, trade that sh!t in before the new 360 drops price aswell, that way you get the most out of your hardware/software. It has nearly the same games, but the ps3 works! DON'T KEEP BUYING XBOX SH!T SINCE THEY HAVEN'T FIXED THE DAMN THING!. I dont mean to disrespect anyone who has a 360, but that sh!!! just happened to my friend and that isn't cool,god bless him,he saved up for months, and during a recession, to waste on 300dollar hardware w/ constant errors ! it just pisses me off to see a company take advantage of comsumers, let alone someone that i consider family!, GO F@CK YOURSELF MS!

[jke82]

its just a big conspiracy by Microsoft you know put out short term shoddy hardware then when the next console cycle ramps up everyone will be chomping at the bit for a new xbox since most of the fanbase xboxes are burning up and malfunctioning like mad and then BOOM instant sales gains........seems to work wonders for their windows department why not apply it to the gaming division..........

[KRUSSIDULL]

Fools!

[Messina II]

letting M$ buttrape me after my third unit. Makes me wonder; is it inbreeding that causes the retardation that makes a person continue to support a company that does not care about their own products? Or maybe it's drugs.

[pixelsword]

... (joking).

[pain777pas]

AMEN, to the first comment. That is the primary reason why I jumped off the 360 bandwagon and I will only invest or turn on the thing when ME2 comes out.

[edgeofblade]

Xbox breaks. Microsoft fixes it. FOR FREE.

Seriously. How ungrateful do you have to be to reject a FREE repair on principle?

Now, if Microsoft STOPS fixing my 360 for free, I'll be livid.

And sure... you can say Microsoft "threw away" $1 billion on a warranty... or you can guess how much Microsoft would lose on a class-action suit. Potentially much more. Either way, MS took measures to deal with the current problem, but I still don't think it's right how it hasn't been fixed in subsequent models.

[KingKionic]

8 xbox 360`s ? wow...

[ape007]

that's a big problem in the 360,that could easly make for a stronger ps3 install base,u know that every ps3 sold have 0.1% chance to get broken

and.......I FKN HATE E74

[HammockGames]

... how many people are caught in the cycle of getting refurbished 360's that have already had the RRoD and therefore are more prone to getting it again? Microsoft probably has a considerable stockpile of old systems still sitting around that they simply keep repairing and sending back out (only to return again). So I could see how it would be a very hard cycle to break out of once you're in it.

Definitely would suck, especially since all that gamers really want to do is play the games they paid good money for.

[50CALheadshot]

VEEEEEERY frequently

[Nelson M]

Has had 8 RRoD's
Hell that more RRoD's than the 3Shitsty has Exclusive's
You BoTs are a Gullible Breed

[Chubear]

EXCLUSIVE to the beta-box-please-fix-me.

[air1]

says the guy that payed to fix 4 ps2's and still got a ps3 at launch..

[Anon1974]

I love my Xbox 360, and it's great the Microsoft extended the warranty but I would have rather they fixed the problem. What's the point of buying the bulk of your library on a system you can't rely on. I still play my 360 occassionally, but I mainly game on one of my PS3's now simply because I know I can rely on them.

It's certainly nothing against the 360's games. It's got plenty of must play titles for me, but the game can be the best game in the world and it won't matter if your system won't play it.

[Winter47th]

You get what you pay for *rolleyes*

[JonnyBadfinger]

Ill stick by the 360 to the bitter end

mines yet to break, and Ive had it since launch. Is time against me...... maybe but as of right now i dont care.

And Nelson M has kinda really steered me away from a purchase of the PS3, his childish reasonings and comments show me what the PSN and Home would be like, and i feel sorry for every other PS3 owner who agree with you and must talk to you on a daily basis.

and Nelson M has testicular cancer in the throat............ Thats right i can be childish too

[Nelson M]

Go Hump Somebody else's Leg Mutt Face
You Bought an Xbox
Your Gonna get RRoD
You've No Games to play this year
Your the one who is Frustrated and it Shows
Thy Silly Little BoT

[saimcheeda]

stupid bot uses the same insult everytime!:P

[saimcheeda]

f@ggybotfinger may be more suitable! :P

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And the PS3 is still losing the console war, still losing money, still losing exclusives, still losing to Live, still losing multiplats and PS3 owners are still not buying games.

Funny how the RROD console is killing the PS3, reminds me of the PS2 disc read error and it still won the war. Poor droids, one AAA game all year, nothing to play and still in 3rd/last.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Let's wait until more than one of the "Jasper" units fail before saying it has a problem. No electronic device gets a 100% success rate, including the PS3. PS2s weren't exactly the most reliable machine either. Maybe the number 2 is a curse for both MS and Sony. They have both had hardware problems with their second console.

[likedamaster]

lol. Nelson, you silly, silly droid.

[-MD-]

I'm still using a launch console.

Haven't even tried a falcon or jasper yet.

[saimcheeda]

its because of the lower price!...and the disc read error was nothing in front of the RROD...and try to say something other than droids allt he time idiot

[Gue1]

Then you're one of the few @Murderfail...

[Upbeat]

its a pitty really that there is only one solution for the RROD, and u all know what that is :D

A Playstation 3

[Cajun Chicken]

Seriously. You should have the maximum of TWO broken consoles, not that many, I wouldn't persist that much. How long do these people play on them for crying out loud?

I had two Playstations (lazer replaced in old one, counts as two to me), My PS2 still works, Two Dreamcasts, My XBOX is nearly dead (has problems reading drives) and the 360 and PS3 are fine so far. Knock on wood.

[rivithed]

My playing time before 8th Xbox 360 died was 2 minutes after being off all day. Believe it or not, playing time is not relative to the Xbox 360's RROD. Most of the ones that died were played less that 1/2 hour before breaking. It's extremely frustrating and I'm hoping to share this story to spread awareness on the problem. As a consumer, I would have quit supporting the platform. Because I try to keep balanced coverage on the website, I try to keep a working Xbox 360 around to keep up with the games and releases on the platform. Where there are multi-platform games, I'm going with the PS3 just because it is more reliable hardware for me. I just hope gamers that are looking for a fun time with a gaming system don't feed into the Xbox 360 failures.

[morganfell]

I understand exactly with what you are dealing. I had a launch 360 Pro that died in month 14. Sent it back, got a replacement...way too long in returning.

Dead right out of the box.

Sent it back, got a refurb and a few months of play and it died. Then traded that in for a HALO edition that came new with a play and charge kit. A play and charge kit that was dead right out of the box.

I had that 360 for just over a year and it died.

That's it. If this one goes, forget it. A third of all the Live titles and DLC I purchased still do not work due to DRM issues. The tool didn't fix everything. The tool itself was so late in being provided by MS that the Live titles no longer had a multiplayer audience so that money was pissed away too.

All together I lost 3 months of Live time and MS reimbursed me for 1 month.

[Johnny Rotten]

I'm on my 4th and soon to be 5th(the screen turns purple and freezes) and I still don't have one with an HDMI cable... Surprisingly though I've never had the RROD, I had two disk drives crap out on me and my launch system died a month after buying it because the graphics card fried. All were covered by the extended warranty btw.

On a side note I'm still sporting the original 60 gb PS3 almost 2 years after it's warranty expired!

[ActionBastard]

Did anyone really think Jasper was going to fix it? *SHOCK* The 360 is too much like a game of Russian roulette. Maybe it'll work? Maybe it won't scratch discs? Maybe I won't get E74? It's trash. I'll stick to my PS3 and Wii.

[KingKionic]

I dont have scratched discs and never had rrod .

I must be special .

[ActionBastard]

You must be.

http://actionbastard.wordpr...

[ShabzS]

i'm on my second ... launch model died after disc read errors and now i have a jasper unit ... but going for a ninth one is crazy talk

[Raoh]

Russian Roulette is truly the best way to describe it.

i bought mine in spring 2007, disc issues in 3 months, replaced, disc issues again and over heating.. replaced.. loud and hot traded it in.

a few friends bought at launch a few after me and they were plagued with issues too.

And yet, i have now 2 friends that i know of that have had a launch 360 and not only do they run smoothly they have also not been that loud..

can't explain it any other way except luck of the draw when purchasing.

I traded my old one in for a new arcade model. so far so good. but i cross my fingers, do a sign of the cross and say a little prayer every time i turn it on.

[TheTwelve]

...stupid consumers just keep getting another one.

12

[RealityCheck]

I agree, to keep buying replacements is just rewarding bad behavior. I'm on my 5th 360 but I sent it back 4 times under warranty. Once this latest refurbished dies and if they tell me the warranty doesn't apply anymore, it will be the end of the line for that console for me.

If I get bad service at a restaurant or a store, I take my business elsewhere. If I buy a car or an appliance with poor reliability, I go and buy from another brand next time. It's just common sense.

[IcyJoker187]

:(

[ultimolu]

More like a Falcon Flop. -_-

You'd think this problem would be fixed by now.

[Etseix]

wut to do....
hide! this thing is gona blow! D:

[NeptuneMerc]

Hard to really believe some of these stories to be honest.

[rivithed]

I agree that it's hard to believe. What I'm sharing is what has happened to me as a fact. Anything over a couple of repairs are unacceptable. Especially when you're dealing with the same issue. I don't expect Microsoft to disclose a number on what percent of failures there are, but I'm sure it's no where near 3-4% that they've claimed. I'm hoping you really stick up for your rights as a consumer and hopefully propose something to do about it as a Xbox 360 customer.

[creamydingle]

I agree hard to believe some of the stories 9 times but then I know six real life friends (not online friends never met) who have 360s including myself and we have all had rrod twice except 1 friend who has had it 4 times so it does seem a bit hard to believe 9 times but not impossible.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Some might be false, but this one is most likely true. I know a casual gamer on his third, and a moderately hardcore gamer on his fifth. Nine isn't totally impossible, and I'd be willing to go as far as to say that this journalist isn't the only one.

[CrayzeeCarl]

stop buying them? O.O

[kunit22c]

You would have to be a pretty ignorant 360 fanboy to disagree with this statement.
Omega4 did you disagree with him?

:)

[NeptuneMerc]

I really find it hard to believe some of these stories.

[BreakNeckSpeed]

Wonder why you got so many disagrees. Its not like you said anything wrong. I find some of these stories hard to believe my self.

Whatever makes them assholes sleep at night.... Their just insecure nerds with social problems.

[keysy420]

mS has come out and said that thier is a prolbem and have spent billions to try to fix the problem. they knowingly put out a defective system. the 360 has all types of hardware flaws. its why you dont buy products from m$ really cheap to make expensive to own even the zune has a monthly fee

[air1]

:(

sony fanatics will just never let it go..

[Model]

angry much ? be angry at M$

[air1]

"angry much"

uuhh, no? * as i turn on my 360 to play mass effect* nice! mine is working!

have to get my story together for me2..

kz2 ftw!!! ppfff...

yup an 08 game, the horrible images that must be going through your head lol... *gasp* "bu but kz2" delimine says. what abut it!?

then maybe i'll brush up the skills in ng2, then maybe i'll kick my wifes brother as$ in fn4 online on ps3, the ill finish off with resistance2, a much better game than kz2.... and last weekend i got tools of destruction but the damn game is boring if im angry about anything its that..

[Mo0eY]

Either he stealth edited and made you look like a dumb@ss with the KZ2 announcement, or you assumed he was going to say something, and you made yourself look like a dumb@ss. Regardless, you're still a dumb@ss.

[FFXI101]

Right, the xbox fan does...so why did you bother to reply and bashing the PS3 game then??

[gamfreak]

fanboy including me, no point reasoning with delusional bots, they wouldn't listen to any one of you, just laugh at their face like i did everytime M$ console went wrong.LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[krauler]

when you shut it off, the fans go off. The heat is still in there doing its damage. If you have a long session, it won't fail until shortly after the next time you turn it on.
It could also be thermal breakdown from it being on, off, on, off alot. It's probably better for it to stay on all the time.

[MetalGearBear]

http://www.civin.org/pix/rr...

http://www.halolz.com/wp-co...

http://www.thedailydl.com/w...

[Omega4]

I think the 360 is the only console people are actually willing to go through the trouble to get it repaired multiple times, its just that good

[ultimolu]

So basically you're saying that it's good for people to ignore common sense just because a console is *that good*?

I don't give a damn how good something is. If it's unreliable, then it's unreliable.

That's why I didn't buy the 360 during Christmas. I had a feeling not even the Jaspers would fix this problem.

Kionic: Ah, but I bet that if someone's PS3 broke down, it'll be news, right? How long has this RROD issue been going on?

[OmarJA]

More like dumb people...

Like you.

[KingKionic]

It`s actually funny that the main thing about article is talking about one person`s console being defective .

And this is news...

[table]

lol, is there anything that you don't attempt to spin omega4?

omega... you sound like one of the a**holes high up at microsoft blaming the consumer for the console breaking. There is no excuse, but thankfully most people are covered so it is more of a nuisance than anything. If they keep breaking further down the line I can however see alot of unhappy customers. Lets just hope that the problem gets(is) genuinely fixed.

[Omega4]

Well the fact that there are people who have had 360 which have yet to break proves that the console isnt destined to break. The reason some peoples 360 continuously break is probably due to the environment they are kept in rather the the console.

But since its free to get fixed I dont see why anyone complains.

Edit: @ stewgart
Im not spinning Im just stating the true meaning behind the article :)

[KingKionic]

No .

Your making presumed judgment .

This really isn't news even if there ps3 ylod was a article it`s not
" NEW "

[tripewire]

"Well the fact that there are people who have had 360 which have yet to break proves that the console isnt destined to break. The reason some peoples 360 continuously break is probably due to the environment they are kept in rather the the console.

But since its free to get fixed I dont see why anyone complains"

<FACEPALM>

So much fail right there

[Ghost-Face]

I don't post too often but I come on here everyday and I read all the comments on most of the hotter topics. I'm now convinced that you're an employee of Microsoft, there's noway someone could be that moronic, It's simply not possible.

[ultimolu]

Sure it is Kionic, sure it is.

As long as Microsoft continues to fail in fully fixing the RROD, I will not a) buy a 360, and I will keep bringing it up until it's fixed.

If this was the PS3, there would be non-stop reports on this. Stop defending this problem and use your God-given common sense.

And Omega...seriously, what? I don't care if you get it fixed for free. Does that mean Microsoft shouldn't fix the problem because consoles get fixed for free? They didn't have a choice you know. They could have gotten sued if they didn't do that.

[DonCorneo]

tweens (aka majority of xbox owners) do not have enough money to buy a better consoles. then, their moms do not have the budget to buy them another one, so they are stuck with the warranty replacement.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Hope I'm not jinxing myself but.. I've had a jasper 360 since January that hasn't given me a problem. My launch system lasted almost 2 years before it gave me my first RROD... then the DVD drive stopped working... then another RROD so I sold it for the price of a 360 arcade (kept my hard drive and wireless controllers) and bought the Jasper.

[Fishy Fingers]

You sold your console, minus the HDD and wireless pads for the same price as an Arcade. You'd have to be a sucker to buy that.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Same thing I thought when I got the response on Craigslist lol.. but hey, he must've fixed it, and modded it or something. But I didn't ask any questions

[stonecold3]

was going to buy an xbox 360 but i told her all the problems it had and been with the 33/ faulire problem with the system and she decided not to buy it as my older sister want the nintendo wii no thanks gamecube im happy with my ps3 best system this gen so far and with final fantasy 13 coming out in japan gt5 coming out later in 09 and price drop its going to be the best time for us ps3 fans and uncharted 2 cant wait

[keysy420]

i should file a law suit as a matter of fact im going to talk to a lawyer

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

4th 360 here, been working for almost 2 years but I bought my first one 3 years ago meaning I am out of warranty :(

[bujasem_89]

i have a MAD 360 Xbot as a friend, he still doesent see that the PS3 is just the superior console, i mean 2 360's died on him,

so he got the elite falcon , praising it he was , playing it carefully he was , totally sure that it was RROD free he was , then came the second month and BOOM BOOM BOOM RROD.

I guess ignorant ppl will always remain ignorant and stupid because now he has an arcade 360 god only knows how long it will last, a nano second mayb 2 lol XD.

[Boty]

Except that he don't have to buy the 360 and the Live Subscription. His Parents do. Hes been through 5 Xbox 360's and don't seem to think the 5 is a lot for broken consoles. He still thinks the PS3 has no games and that Live is "BETTERZ".

[xztence]

The RROD is a reality and is still a problem even with the newer 360's.
Smart consumers will want to weigh in on the fact that it might die on you a few times so take that in consideration when you buy one.

For very smart consumers a ps3 is certainly advised.

Lastly, as always you get what you pay for...

[Etseix]

thats why the Xbox 360's HARDWARE, made of it the WORST gameing CONSOLE of this GENERATION.

hardware, not SOFTWARE, but i guess some people are stupid enough that they dont see the difference. =/

[souljah]

let`s say it together now : ALL USA LADS ARE SO PHACKIN STUPID. GO ON NOW , CHOP CHOP , TELL YOUR MOMMY TO BUY A NEW XBOX , BECAUSE IT`S THE BEST CONSOLE OUT THERE. no wonder how m$$$$ makes so much money.

[keysy420]

till it broke over and over and over and over and over and over etc aging then i finally said fuk it got a ps3 and its been smooth sailing now im selling my 360 to get a psp go it s a come up and ill only have to buy one

[table]

It's quite disconcerting how we all laugh and joke about the RROD as though it is just something trivial, expected and acceptable when it is infact a serious f-up by microsoft. They should be made to pay for this serious blunder. I also find it absurd that they twist this problem to make the consumer culpable.

[pippoppow]

It's just ust the 360 fanatics that think the warranty solves the issue just fine and that multiple defects are to be blamed on the consumer for abuse. They also defend paying for a service that should be free, like the service wouldn't be as good if there was no fee. MS has done a wonder marketing job with the 360 and with the help of various publications defusing the RROD debacle and downplaying it's other faults. I could only imagine the backlash if the problems the 360 had inflicted the PS3 or Wii and was dealt with in a similar fashion. Unless MS redesigns the 360 then the problems will persist and since they still persist, even if at a lower number then they have no intention of ever truely fixing the problem. Yes, it's old news and people will keep buying the 360 but what they did is not right. If the 360 was reliable (would't pay to play) then I'd have bought one for Lost Odyssey but things being what they are they do not deserve my support. MS has soured me on the Xbox brand (I did buy an original Xbox) to the point I honestly do not see myself supporting it in future iterations. They sure will have a lot to prove next gen.

[Blow Out Your Brains]

Wow, almost five freakin years and they haven't figured a solution to the problem?? They must have some real gems working at M$. Biggest joke this gen is RROD.

[Henry Cain]

There is no way in hell that I would be on my ninth xbox 360. Mine died after three weeks out of the box. I got a new one from the store because I was still within the thirty day return policy. If it happens again and I have to pay, I won't have an xbox 360 anymore.

[HDgamer]

The xbox 360 wasn't designed to be broken however it seems like MS doesn't want to fix the problem especially if they are selling at 200 bucks and more with a 3 year warranty. No matter what area you keep it in eventually it will break or you will remain one of the lucky bastards who don't have RROD or E-74.

[Zack Sawyer]

I thought that they had paid, quite a lot of money from what I could recall. They messed up and are paying for it but it doesn't seem to be of much concern to the general consumer otherwise they wouldn't keep on buying them.

The RROD is of no concern to me so long as Microsoft don't charge a fortune to have this fault of theirs repaired. I can just do other things to occupy me whilst its off being fixed.

[renog66]

Both systems suck but at least you have a 3 year warranty with the 360 vs a one year with the PS3. I have both systems and love them both but you get the ylod ( yellow light of death ) with the PS3 you get the power failure, blu-ray and after your one year is up you have to pay $150 to get it fixed. I agree that there the 360 is just a bad design but some thing is going wrong with the PS3 as well. Some one posted about the the PS3 problem about 4 or 5 months ago did any one read that??? You see my point is at least you have 3 years with the 360 and it don't cost you anything...yes you have to wait 2 or 3 weeks to get it back and that suck BUT!!! I have to send my PS3 in to get it fixed which I have to pay $150 plus wait 2 or 3 weeks plus miss out on gaming. All my PS3 friends had to send their PS3's in to get fixed and paid $150 and that's 67 friends out of a 100 so there's a problem with both systems...I'm not a fan boy...I'm a gamer.

[NotSoSilentBob]

You forget to mention that 3 YEARS is ONLY FOR THE RROD. Anything else and you will pay for it. With the amount of time this guy has waited in between sending/receiving his 360s he could have got a job and paid for 5-6 ps3 no problem and have the best exclusives of 08/09 and to come.

[Gun_Senshi]

This is part of MS Viral Marketing. X360 dies on you and you buy a new one due to all games you have. Some peolpe have 2 working at once for when one breaks down he has another X360 to play until repairs.

What really amazes me and makes me think its Viral Marketing to sell more consoles, is that modded X360s that have extra fans added never get RROD. I mean really, if adding 3 fans do the job why cannot MS do it?

MS CAN Fix RROD but they do not want for simple reason its more consoles sold.

[HDgamer]

Because modded 360's are much better than the original product. Which is also why MS doesn't want you to have on besides the pirated games.

[Stryfeno2]

Damn, is this a droid convention? They flock to this news like it is a relief.

360 isn't going anywhere...No matter how many times you fanboys tries. Yes, the 360 has a RROD problem but if it wasn't a good console then it would of been long gone.

[Mo0eY]

PatchBox PleaseFixMe.

Anyway, this problem should have been avoided at the beginning when MIcrosoft engineers knew about it, but M$ gave you guys the shaft and sold the system with having no concerns about the consumer.

You must like getting rammed up the anus.

[xcox]

the 360 is a great console for suckas

i've got 2 launch 60GB ps3s running at least 5h/day with my roommate:
never had the slightest prob
rock solid, amazing piece of gaming hardware

you xb!tches have been conned so deep, i pity you fools

[moscardini7]

why fix problem, people continue buy new xbox360 ..I sorry but is the true.

[-MD-]

Deafphat? Is that you?

[divideby0]

MS is finally getting to "Failure rates are within industry standards", after they openly lied about the initial faulty design and pulled the biggest shame in video gamming history...
if you think otherwise, you are wrong.
the newer units will have acceptable (to me 0 is more like it, but not practical) failure rates.

[NotSoSilentBob]

Anyone stupid enough to buy/accept a second 360 after theirs breaks isn't going to know or learn quality. They get what they pay for.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Amen, Brotha.

[divideby0]

I was 3 times stupid and stuck on dumb..since I am on my 3rd 360..
BUT I purchased the EB 50 buck walk in get another unit...
I am a true gamer, so I just bit the 100 bucks in warranties.

Here is where MS is just a bunch of dirt bags....after they acknowledged the know problems of the 360 and offered free repairs, I gave them my 2 previous units serial #s cost of the 2 warranties I purchased and they wouldnt reimburse me, cause they HAD NO RECORD..
Lie-ing theives, even with all my documentation they told me to pound salt..

[Sibs]

Hm, one of the comments on that site has a valid point. Microsoft probably did create the Arcade to be a cheap replacement console. Not only does it stop people from complaining, they get a free console sales number.

[moscardini7]

this never get old,hehehe

[No_NaMe]

Completely bullsh** jasper are fine , ofc some get mrrod like Ps3 got Ylod...its normal.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

I have one of the first launch 360 Elites. I had two RRoD before. I just unplugged it. Took a blower for my air mattress and blew inside it. I had so much dust blowing out it was crazy. I did this for about 45 seconds. Then I took my hose from my vacuum cleaner to get the rest out. After that, no problems again. I also use the Intercooler EX.

The only 360 that died on me was my launch system I got November 2005. If this would consistently happened to me, I wouldn't even go pass 2 purchases.

[tatotiburon]

fake

[CrazyOrange]

im on my second ( i have 2 because no warrenty in my country)
and ruuning for 1.5years and still going.

إن شاء الله مايصير فيها شي

[No_NaMe]

Jasper models are fine -- 2-4% Failure , its better than Ps3 now.

Still not better than MAC and ipod---Less than 2%...Apple Products ofc those never broke.

[maspi]

every version of xbox360 will have inevitably hardware failures due engineering mistakes.

[meetajhu]

This coming November Microsoft is going to announce a new chip. Which will fix its own problems. Every one will buy it and say PS3 sucks. What a life. Go get a PS3 and enjoy gaming!

This was EPIC:
As I learned in the book "The Race For a New Game Machine," Microsoft was in a rush to get their Xbox 360 system out before their competitor, Sony's PLAYSTATION 3. Microsoft may have made it out of the gate first, but it's a price they're paying for dearly now, and in the long run. The hasty release is also costing you, the consumer.

[Ninjamonkey]

FFS

Surely MS could fix it, i dont care if it costs them millions what about consumer rights???

You have to wonder if theyre being slow to make more people buy second 360's to make the console seem more popular than it is...

Seriously if your 360 is nearly out of warranty just buy another years warranty, dont just leave it to chance becuase you never know you might just end up buying a new 360...

[Rowsdower]

is like a time warp, I feel like I'm reliving the last three years over and over, cant we just have a fanboy section, and leave the rest of the site heavily moderated

360 rrod
ps3 is doomed

enough already

[miasma]

My xbox360 just RROD for the second time this past week, after having it fixed a year ago. Only reason I am getting it fixed again is because it is still under warranty. If and when it finally goes permanently, there won't be another one. Thank goodness for my PS3...

[Poopface the 2nd]

I believe you. Especially because you have a PSN tag but no GT. Just like the people complaining the most, no GT.

[miasma]

I don't have a GT because I don't play online with my xbox 360.

[Neo604]

RROD 4life.

[Saaking]

Oh, but I thought MS fixed the issues? lmao, you bots won't learn right. MS will never fix RROD because guess what, RROD makes them sell more when all the morons whose 360 breaks buy a new one.

[MaximusPrime]

Most reliable console in this order:
- Nintendo Wii
- Sony PS3
- Microsoft Xbox 360

PS3's failure rate is very minimal. Im one of the few people with so-called "yellow light of death" PS3. So all this report of xbox360 failed consoles is much much worse than ps3.

You got to accept that there have been more RRoD news than YLoD

[peeps]

certainly. and i'm sure for years to come we will still be seeing ylod and rrod's. it's just when either console has a major hardware fault. i've had 2 360's now and 2 ps3's lol i just accept that hardware doesn't last forever. i mean my 360 lasted about a year and a half before i needed a new 1 and the ps3 lasted just over 2 years.

[SixAmpFuze]

I honestly cant believe people are on 5 6 or 9 xboxs. My launch xbox went out last month, What are you people doing to them. On a side note my ps3 that is 9 mo old went out 2 times.GG next gen

[nightelfmohawk]

This isn't directed at the author of the article. Lemmings really amuse me. The could.go to a restaurant and have the cook piss in their drinks, ejaculate in their food, charge them for each napkin, and they would defend the restaurant and go back again and again and again if M$ owned the restaurant and the restaurant had "Halo" in the name. Pathetic. What happened to consumers that had balls and that demanded more from their products? It's sad what some gamers will put up with now.

[sak500]

I guess sony is now bribing bloggers to post this nusiance fake information. Or maybe you play with your xbox in sauna. I had to RRODs on my 2 systems in 2006. One bought in jan 06 and another in may 06. Both were fixed free but had to pay for shipping for one to germany from UAE. At that time the UAE still did not have 360s officially launched. Anyway since 2006 mid i've been using both machines on and off and have played cod4/BF continously for 7-8 hours on weekends and almost every day use it for viewing movies etc. SO why am i surprised to hear about people having 8-10 failures ? There is something fishy about this story and sony's money behind it.

[Poopface the 2nd]

the people with the most RRoDs are the same people who never show their gamertags. Alot of them even have a PSN tag but no GT. And silver is free.

I had one 360 get 1 Ring of death after I sold it to my friend. my 360 hasnt broken yet. Im lucky.

I dont think its sony, I think its the same people trying desperately to get people to switch. The people who care the most are the ones without 360. When the author puts up a GT with an actual gamer score ill believe it, until then Ill stick to believing the RRoD stories from people who can prove they actually had a 360.

[kobonline]

And you fan boys eat it all up.

A little off topic but,
TheTwelve's avatar looks like JB Smoove.

[likedamaster]

You mean Kevin Garnett?

[FantasyStar]

Why is it that I don't believe this? I'm a fair man, but I don't see any other evidence other than his say-so. I want to see credible sources listed such as Xbox-Scene or Max Console because I don't believe this. I can write an article myself claiming the exact opposite.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... -That's a Torture test for the Jasper.

[Javier19]

Well, I have an xbox 360 elite and i've been using it almost daily since I got it in may 2008, not a problem yet :)

[Saaking]

I guess your lucky. I got my Xbox around October last years and it's already gone through RROD.

[Mo0eY]

Javier19, I've been knocking on every piece of wood that you see. I don't announce things that happen to me because next week they do happen (True story: I was at college telling my friend how I never got a ticket because we were talking about car violations/wrecks. She was like :O - I have three tickets. So next weekm I'm flying around the corner, and there he is - the cops of all cops, a state trooper. $250 down the drain).

[Golfcoachh]

I could be wrong, but lookign back at this guys comments, he only mentions rrod once in all his comments, if I was on number 9 I would have been on everyone of these crying about it. Sounds fishy. Not to say that rrod is fake, I know I lost my launch system after a couple of years and the second one is still rolling. Has there been a huge outbreak of rrod on jasper chips, I haven't heard of any, just this guy. I lost my wii a month ago. Dead pixels, so they said, I had to pay for 10 dollar shipping but that was it. No prob with my ps3 so far. Ps1 x3 ps2x2. xbox no broken, gamecube x2 so for me broken consoles are nothing new. Sucks to be this guy if its true.

[Campy da Camper]

Same for me. I went thru 4 of 'em, but all had replacement plans from Best Buy so I was able to trade 'em out each time.

It just got old, every few months having to take it back in there. I am officialy a proud PS3 only owner and have never looked back.

And what pissed me off is I called in to Xbox support once to ask WTF is going on with these things and the guy asked me how much I used it. I told him 4-5 hours a night and most of the day on the weekend. He told me they were not meant to be used for such long periods! I'm like, er, hello, I'm a gamer. It's what I do! You're telling me to only play for an hour or two then stop so it doesn't overheat? Fuk that!

[peeps]

i imagine it will always be a problem... hardware doesn't last forever BUT it's nowhere near as much of a problem as it used to be. ppl who think we'd never see the rrod again are very naive.

anyway i've had 2 360's and 2 ps3's... it's just electrical hardware and i can think of very few that never break, if any.

[Midgard228]

only reason mine hasn't broke is cuz i dont play it. wtf why do u keep playing? halo isnt that good

[XDF]

The article doesn't even describe how she got the 8 RROD but link to various rants from other sources. This sounds like a regular long essay rant job by someone like Shadow Apocalypse. LMFAO

I am still using my one from 2006. I must have been lucky.

[likedamaster]

My launch box -- no RRoD. (knock on wood)

[ApocalypseShadow]

but sorry dude,i'm straight and have a girlfriend.

i guess all that bending over for microsoft has changed you mentally.

maybe that's why you got that "bi" avatar.you go both ways.

no excuse for crappy hardware.but then,i expect people like you to accept it.

apocalypse...............

[KingKionic]

Lol...

Xdf what`s your come back ?

[XDF]

Here you are, I know you will show up sooner or later. Hey, it is a RROD article after all, so I wouldn't expect anything less than a few negative comments from you. Have a great time with this thread. LOL

The "bi" avatar you spoke about, yes I am proud to display a Xbox and a Playstation mascots because unlike somebody, I am a proud owner of both consoles.

[ApocalypseShadow]

you only show that you are proud of one system.there is never a "GOOD" comment about ps3 from you.that much is certain.

maybe i was wrong.and you are more "two faced" than even minded.

i don't support gouging gamers for money with expensive,monopolistic accessories like wifi and hdds.instead of fair market prices.i don't support paying to play when others offer it for free.

and i definitely wouldn't support shoddy hardware as i know better and research my purchases before buying.and 360 was breaking from the start.a european repair shop said it was "endemic" and refused to repair it anymore until microsoft decided to set aside a billion and a 3 year warranty.

smart shoppers or smart consumers wouldn't bother.but most of you didn't care or care now that it still breaks as you have been given a pacifier to avoid recalls and lawsuits.suggesting that most buyers of 360 are young.and the xbl community is a good indicator being that most are teens.

didn't effect you,but it effects others.and your support gives way for consumers to bend over for future shoddy work.which your are already doing.

apocalypse..................

[JonnyBigBoss]

Well, my buddy Andy just had his 4th Xbox 360 break on him 2 weeks ago, and it still hasn't come back. The worst part about it is that the 3-year warranty is about to expire in a few months. Really, the RROD issue is totally understated by most people. Reliability is a much more important thing than most people give credit for. I personally drive a Toyota Camry, and I have had 0 issues with it except for my driver window getting stuck at times. I see people on the road with Jaguars all the time, and can't help but think to myself that they must have to spend thousands of dollars and dozens of hours fixing issues popping up with their car. It's a shame that so many people don't value longevity and reliability.

[sak500]

Oh really and my friend Mandy had her 5th ps3 broken just after the 30 days' warranty. Guess what she had to pay 200$ to get it fixed. The ps3s are losing it this gen.

[madpuppy]

(which is a proven fact) they always bring up some story about either themselves or "a friend" having their PS3 fail like 10 times?
and that somehow the PS3 has the same failure rate or worse? (which is false)

@sak500, it sounds like your friend "mandy" might be putting her PS3 on the carpet in front of her TV when she uses it. that is the only reason I can think of that would cause any console to fail at 100%.
you see carpet carries a static charge and will kill a console in a matter of weeks.

but, that is my best guess for such a high failure rate of her specific PS3 console.

[sak500]

@mad sorry to have you come up ways to justify what i wrote earlier. But what i wrote was just made up to show that anyone can write about anything. No need to believe anything u read on the forums or internet for that matter unless there proper evidence is provided. Some random blogger can up and write w/o evidence has as much credibility as what i wrote in my earlier comment.

[madpuppy]

How many time I have to read this angry, knee-jerk reply to the 360's lousy, totally admitted by Microsoft, unreliable track record from 360 fanboys.

[LTC]

I wonder how much of MS total systems sold include RROD replacements.

[devilhunterx]

it scares me to know that the people who buy xb2 will be eligible to vote.

[Knightofelemia]

Wow a 9th XBOX personally I would stop buying them after they fail more then 4 times he is either a real hardcore XBOX fan or just a kid. I'd tell Microsoft this is the last time I send them the 360 if they cannot fix it then I am buying a Playstation.

[vShinobi]

I love the 360 its a great console but its too faulty, when mine broke the first time I was angry but accepted it and sent it back to microsoft and it arrived 4 weeks later but when it broke again after 2 weeks I decided its best to trade it in and get a new console, the PS3 was the only one closest to what i had but the price tag was unfair but I had no choice, right now im happy with the PS3 and hope in the future microsoft learns for the next console to take they're time perfecting it, I have the Elite now and so far going on 3 months with no problems.

[ipe]

be gone along with RROD.thats only solution for rrof

[Yomiro]

Tell MS to stick to making softwares not hardwares

[DizzyDino]

i went through 9 xbox 360s. i paid 4 the 1st 1 and they fixed the rest of them. i am disabled and i play at least 15 hours a day. after the 9th 1 (they sent me a new 1)broke i sold it 2 a friend and it broke on him. i got a 40 gb ps3. upgraded the hdd 2 250 gb 4 60 bucks. i have had it 4 1 and a half years and other than it freezing on the browser and it sometimes being loud ive never had a problem. this is the first playstation i have ever owned (no ps1 or ps2) and its awesome. i love it.

[N4G king]

bu..but..but
they fixed it

haahahahahahaha

poor bots

[TheAnswer0371086]

Microsoft is screwing customers for years now and this is just unacceptable. Forget all the fanboy talk of exclusives, graphics, sales, etc.....WHAT GOOD IS IT, IF YOUR SYSTEM FRIGGIN BREAKS ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME?

Microsoft is a crappy hardware company, they should stick with software and do what Sega does...go back to JUST making games...

Its only a matter of time before the PS3 overtakes everything in sales. As long as it fulfills its 10 year lifecycle, it will outsell the competition. The Wii wont be out for 10 years, and either will the Xbox PleaseFixMe

[NaiNaiNai]

Im sorry.

But thats all opinion.

My 360 messed up once, I just cleaned it out and it has not had a issue again..

T_T how ever my ps3 died 2 times in its first week, I took it back and got a DS...

so in the end, sony consoles actually fail more....Like my 7 ps2s that are all trash because of the Disk read error.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

is that Microsoft doesn't really address it outside the warranty. I haven't seen any figures to suggest that is is less probably now to get a RROD. Microsoft manages their image more than Sony, which I guess is why. The RROD is scandalous...but the only scandals you hear are the PS3.

I don't blame Microsoft for this, because they know they are the darlings of the gaming community regardless. As such, 'RROD' is no big deal, more urban myth than the 'very real' PS3 price. So much that the adage 'you get what you pay for' doesn't seem to have much meaning anymore.

[gamingisnotacrime]

Buy a Nyko Intercooler TS (the one with its own power supply) and the fking expen$ive 120 Gb Hard Drive and install ALL your games (except the ones you cant or should not->Halo 3). Keep it in the vertical position and well ventilated.

Results:
All games run better, Bioshock, Forza 2, Gears, Lost Odyssey(yep all 4 discs), Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, Fable 2 etc
I played lost Odyssey for 20 hours in 2 days and the disc comes out cool to touch after playing it every session and i live in Puerto Rico meaning the heat is intense in the summer. 360 is prone to failure and as a consummer i hate to be treated like this from MS, BUT the gamer in me just wants to play those games in the HDTV with 5.1 surround and I can not blame him :)

[olLANDSHARKlo]

I have a launch that still works, and a elite launch that still works, But I got the Yellow light of death with my ps3, I don't believe any of these, someones being paid to try and stop Microsoft from being number 2, sony can't stand last place.

[TheColbertinator]

Truly unbelievable.I'm an RROD victim myself and this crap needs to stop

http://www.1up.com/media/03...

[-MD-]

Warranty.

[Double Toasted]

...my 360 I'm sure the PS3 would have some type of color related death.

[DuneBuggy]

My 360 is almost 2 years old now.No problems.No coolers used or anything.It just sits on top of a Xbox game case so it breathes a little better and isnt buried in the carpet.
I did that with my PS2 as well and shes still kicking along too.Ive had that PS2 since 01' or 02'. Bought one the first time I could FIND one without waiting all night somewhere or getting slayed by a online opportunist asking big bucks.
The only person I know personally who has had a RROD was my best friend.But he kept his flat on the carpet and left it on for LONG durations often.MS did fix it free though anyway.

[NaiNaiNai]

Still on my first 360. Heres how you fix a RRoD.. A BLOODY CAN OF AIR...T_T thats it. we all know the cases were to small and dust gets in there real easy, same thing that happens to a PC...just get a can blow out the dust real simple.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

And yet the desperate bots keeps crawling back for more.
As a superior PS3 owner, i feel bad for my distant gaming cousins.Purposely putting themselves through this torture.For what?

Pride? Ego? Jump out & Play B3yond.

[-MD-]

What's with the 3 in beyond?

It reminds me of 5n1p3r and other middle school 1337 speak. It's really lame.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

They thought M$ meant $&M!!! ;-D

[kaveti6616]

This guy sounds super legit. I my self have actually gone through 1,273 Xbox 360s. True story. Sometimes I would get five a day from the store and each one would red-ring on me. It's a serious issue for sure. And you know what? Microsoft completely lied about their warranty. It's not actually 3 years. It's 3 weeks. I've decided to use my 360s as building material. I went up to the mountain and built a log cabin out of them and whenever I turn all of them on they provide a good deal of heat for the winter. I have a couple of friends who have both lost their eyes because as soon as they turned their 360s on the consoles blew up and fragments just went everywhere.

It's so terrible. I can't believe Microsoft would do this to us, and on top of that, I have to pay $460 dollars a year just to play online. How lame is that? The Playstation Network is so much better than Xbox Live. On PSN I never have trouble doing anything, and the community on PSN is so much more vocal. On XBL, you're either talking to an automated robot or a 4 year old. Literally. True story.

Why can't this moron just jump off a bridge? Really, you bought 9 Xbox 360s? Are you a moron? Even Microsoft would tell you how much of a tool you are. This situation is no longer a hardware issue, it's a moron issue. If you hadn't bought 9 crap units then 10 people would have bought them and each one would have gotten one RROD and that would be the end of it. It's kind of like getting hit by a car 9 times and then going out and complaining about the auto industry. It's really your fault. If you don't have enough intelligence to just stop buying it, then you deserve this.

[JannikD]

"If I get bad service at a restaurant or a store, I take my business elsewhere. If I buy a car or an appliance with poor reliability, I go and buy from another brand next time. It's just common sense."

This.

My first 360 RROD'd on me and I used the warranty, got the refurb 360 back and immediately sold it. Shoddy products should not be patronized.

[Mister_G]

MS won't fix it now.... they're busy with the Xbox 3, let hope that's reliable.

[redbadger]

This article and others are the reason why i will not buy a 360. I refuse to give MS my money for faulty equipment.

[ukilnme]

Tell that to my broken PS3. I know the failure rate for PS3 is not as high though.

[NegativeCreep427]

Xbox 360 Three Red Lights hardware failures persist with Jasper Xbox 360; What is a consumer to do?

What any sane and logical consumer who wasn't born with down-syndrome, who isn't a delusional little prick (Xbot nation at attention), and who doesn't sniff magic markers to get looney would do: Jump the F*ck out and Play B3yond!!!!!!!!!!!

[cmrbe]

are called bots.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I've had 1 360 die on me since launch and was replaced for free. I'm still doing better than I was with the PS2 which I had 2 die on me before I said FU Sony, mainly because they refused to fix it both times. At least with MS they offer something better with their warranty. If my current system dies and it won't get fixed for free I am done with it.

To this article he has 1 Jasper that has failed and he is skewing it into an epidemic. Even if the Jasper corrected the RROD, electronics do have commonly a %3 failure rate. So even if the problem is fixed there will never be a point when no console dies ever.

/goes back to playing his 360

[Hudahudahuda]

It has nothing to do with the chips. It is loose clamps that make the thing overheat.

[wxer]

get a ps3 or wii
much more powerfull IMO

[madpuppy]

Hmm, what IS a consumer to do when faced with the fact that a product was designed and built shoddily? :/

[cmrbe]

x360 second highest exclusive with a sell through rate of 33% second only to Halo 3.

[SkyGamer]

I have owned over 44 ps2's, mostly of them in trade for tech work I have done and over 60 percent broke! Not all were the same problem but majority were disc drive related. The ps2 had the CRAPPIEST disc drive as 99 percent of the dvd playback went out in matter of weeks. A lot of them couldn't read blue-backed discs and some couldn't read silver-backed discs. Complete garbage. Probably is the reason why I have a certain distaste for sony. Still have my launch date X360. Don't play it much as I bought a Falcon arcade and transfered my stuff to it but still runs strong. More though I am a PC gamer. My Graphics card has more power than the ps3 and that is just the gpu! Not including my oc processor and 8 gb of ram working in unison.

That article was totally written by a sony fanboy. Just because they say they USE to be an X360 fanboy, that is easy, I USE to be a sony fanboy. See how simple that is. People are so weak they won't make it.

[SkyGamer]

Oh and my launch date X360, it's not that I am afraid of it breaking, I wanted a newer X360 with HDMI, that is pretty much about it.

[NateDPG]

AHAHAHAHA and another one haha you can as well say you can walk on water lololol

[beardpapa]

Yea you might as well say you walk on water and enjoy "knifing" in Halo.

[Doletskaya]

The new 360 models still RROD ???
I am glad that I was done with 360 one year ago after my third one got RROD and decided to go with PS3.

[morkendo]

Xbox 360 Three Red Lights hardware failures persist with Jasper Xbox 360; What is a consumer to do?

BUY A PS3!!!!!

[ukilnme]

9 360s? That is crazy. Too bad for him. I'm still on my first 360 and just finished playing the new Batman demo. I would have tried it on PS3 too but it happens to be broken right now. Go figure.

[NateDPG]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA do you really think any believes this? lolololol

[ukilnme]

I know you and the rest of the N4G Sony "Faithful" don't believe it. In your eyes, Sony and the PS3 are what makes the world go round and round, that is what living in fantasy land is all about. Back here in reality, my PS3 is actually broken. It's just as dead as the 8 360s this guy has gone through.

[KILLA J]

nobody believes your lies........... go back to your cave troll

[ukilnme]

LMAO. You are the obvious 360 hater in a 360 article and I'm the troll? The Sony "Faithful" never ceases to amaze me with their stupidity.

[KILLA J]

i said, GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE !!!!......... troll

[Dark-vash]

Brand loyalists never see what's in front of their eyes...

[Obama]

There's only one ring to rule them all - The Red Ring of Death.

The bots love RROD, even if they are enslaved by it.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

So far I had one RROD. I also had my Dreamcast break down once. But I had my ps2 break down 5 times. So far I'm doing good.

[j0ltspidah88]

still running great, people need to stop playing the console in 12 hr marathon spurts and leaving it on all the time, all that does is make dust collect inside faster, especially if you dont keep the area clean at all times.

[bunfighterii]

Fact is if it was built to proper expected standards you should be able to play it for 12 hours straight (not that I do) and not expect it to break down or melt.

[jag_stilvecchio]

Simple. The PS3 is more reliable as is the Wii. Most X360 exclusives are also on the PC so that's also an option.

[otherZinc]

Use the warranty & play the best games ever!

[I Call 9MM]

My first one died, my second one died as well, so I water cooled that bad boy and she's been good ever since, did that last summer. It was expensive, but I had some extra parts lying around. Anyway, she works good now. But to have to go through that with a console just to get it to work...

I want to know, does the newest one, the Jasper, still use those X-Clamps to secure the heat sinks? Replace those with some screws and you should be fine.

[madpuppy]

just askin' :P

[Allowen]

I still don't know why no one made an xbo360 emulator to play its games on the PC.

Simple as that, if I had a 360 and it broke for the 2nd or 3rd time I would stop trying to get it fixed or much less would be buying a new console, but instead I would be looking to get a cool emulator to play all my library of xb0x360 games in a PC.

[madpuppy]

and get the wireless adapter for the 360 gamepads for the PC and hook it up to your TV. A reliable "360" with free Internet play and free games if you do that sort of thing.

[Obama]

It's just funny that most of the 360 fanboys here have their system failed once or twice (or even 4 times) and still refuse to believe that the 360 has a high failure rate. Just find it very amusing.

[madpuppy]

they think that ALL game consoles have the same reliability. They think that the PS3 and the Wii are just as much as a POS as the 360 when it comes to manufacture and failure rate. that is the only way I think that they can justify their devotion to the Yugo of consoles. It is a shame though, because other than the reliability issues it is a darn good console. the controllers are comfortable and I rarely had a problem with them disconnecting from the system. and games look pretty good as well.
But, having such poor reliability trumps every good thing about the 360 for me. I still have my 360 (one of a few free replacements) but, I rarely use it since I got my PS3.

[ZILLA]

GET A P S 3!!!problem solved.....plus M A G is coming!!!

[ForROME]

Grown men don't buy products that break continuously, after the 2nd, move on to something that doesn't. With a car or tv you wouldn't don't let blind loyalty to a company change the way you do things, move on to a PS3 and be done with it.

[artsaber]

Hell, the common consumer won't accept such failure rates from a $20 toaster, much less a $400 console! Also, there would've been a demand for that same toaster to be recalled. I have no clue how Microsoft gets a free pass when they PURPOSELY rushed the console to market, they ADMITTED this themselves, and idiots fall in line for blind support! It baffles me. Honestly.

If you buy a 360, about the only way to secure your investment/i.e. get your money's worth out of it for sure, would be to hack it and play burned games... otherwise there is a daily risk of RROD making your investment a pure hassle. At least if it was hacked you could say, "Well, at least I got to play some good $60 games for free."

[Blacksand1]

I was going to get a Xbox 4 years ago until i heard about the Rod so

I waited and got the PS3 the next year. My sister boyfriend had 3-4

Rods already people thought I crazy on here when I said the Xbox was

crap, how can you throw a system out there with problem's and people

will buy it and who care if it break down, like they said a fool and

his money will soon part that's what is going on here. Sony made good

system and everyone had a Playstation now Xbox come out 1 year before

PS3 and we fanboys yes I am and you was one to so now you can cry

because your stupid @$$ didn't wait for the PS3 that wasn't rush.

[ukilnme]

Are you drunk?

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Suckers....

Every unit counts as one unit sold. Even replacements. Believe it or not.

[erivera1994]

Thats it...Microsoft You SUCK. I cant beleive as rich as you guys are you cant make a freaking system that works. Whats your Problem.
I still cant beleive that theres still idiots out there that waste their money on this crap system. I always hear these things from people saying they are on their 9th 360 or 11th 360. The only thing i dont get is this.....Why are you guys still buying the DAMN System....its JUNK!! If your on your 8th-or more system. than you have already spent thousands of bucks. and your spending more and more cause your 360 keeps breaking. Just buy a PS3 or a Wii, those are the Pro Video game system Makers. Microsoft is a amateur compared to those 2 veterans.

[ukilnme]

It's the games that keep people going back for more. Get over it.

[artsaber]

Makes you wonder if nine 360s to one customer is equal to 9 sales on the quarterly figures sheets... hmmmm.

[bunfighterii]

It just flies in the face of logic to me you would keep paying money for a new system if they're going to fail. The article mentioned he was on his 8th Xbox.

Why would you want something that keeps breaking. Equate this to a car. If you owned a car that you bought new form the manufacturer and it broke down 8 times in a short space of time, wouldn't you cut your losses and get a different car?

I've had 2 Xboxes die on me and I quit on the 360. Shoddiest piece of hardware I ever bought.

Most of the games nowadays are multiplat anyway. Exclusives are overrated,there are hundreds of good games I haven't played, big deal.

[snoopgg]

My ones video wouldn't come on anymore, the other one would just crap out and stall in the middle of games. My first was replaced by microsoft, and my elite was replaced by best buy warranity. Luckly the price of the elite came down in price from the original purchase and I got my new 2 year warranty for free. I had a cooler on both of my previous 360's, but they found new ways to break themselves. I keep my fingers crossed when playing now.

[Silly gameAr]

I've had my Pro for a little over a year, and it's still alive and kicking. Had a few disk read errors and it wouldn't power up a couple of times, but the ol' girls still pushing.

I consider myself lucky.Hopefully it last me a few more years. (knock on wood.)

[NateDPG]

WOW just WOW that this console still has fans. If not for the blind and fanatic fanboys this thing would be one huge FAIL. Incredible that such a piece of crap is still in the race.

[00000000000000000001]

Don't be a fool and believe all this trash. I have never had a problem and know of only 1 person that's had to send there launch console in for repairs.
Even if all these stories were true the 360 is still the better console by a long shot!
If you don't own one than your not a video game player.

[helrazor343]

Yeah, I read most of the comments here, and sure I'll probably be called a fanboy for the title, but people just don't seem to know when to cut their losses. My brothers and I had 1 NES for over 20 years now, same one still works, between then and now I've had 1 gba, 1 Genesis, 1 Nomad, 1 N64, 1 PS1, 2 PS2 (traded for a slim), 1 x-box (shorted out in t-storm), 1 Dreamcast, 1 Gamecube, 2 Psp (1 broke), 1 DS, 1 Wii, 1 PS3, and 3 360s (the launch Premium RRoD, was fixed under warranty, and I heard the new Elites fixed this problem, gave my 2nd Premium to my brother and bought an Elite). My point, I've invested a lot in various games and accessories for 360 (good games, why not replace it), but I've been systematically thinning out what I've invested into this system so that I can cut my loss if/when it breaks again. Plus, now I feel so soured by the experience, that I definitely won't be getting any more M$ hardware ever (not even if it made gold, just a poor investment). I wish I had never given them their 1st chance.

[rubixCubos]

If I bought a 360 and it failed twice, that would be the end of my relationship with any Microsoft console.

I would not buy one ever anyway as the failure rate is shockingly somewhere between 25-50%. You'd expect something between 3-8%.

Seriously.

[Blacksand1]

When the price cut come a lot of people going to jump ship, if they

do already have both system. IF my system wood have broke on me 2

time I would have got a PS3 I have faith in Sony I had my PS2 for 7

years before it went out, then i past the Xbox with its three rings

and waited for the PS3, had it 3 years before my cooler fan went out

but thats was my fault, because it was so quiet and I don't check my

game it was under my entertainment center. I don't read the book, the

only way you will have problem with the PS3 if you have it close in

and it can't breathe to work it got to have air are it will get hot.

I will take that chance then dealing with the Three Ring Circus.

[ukilnme]

Are you still drunk? My PS3 is in a cool, well ventilated area and it still died for no reason. It's a great system but it is not perfect.

[lids345]

i want to buy a 360 to play with my friends, but now i am getting second thoughts... whats the turn around time to send it in and do they renew your warranty? btw i already own a ps3.

[MORGiON]

I used to think the x360 just proved how conditioned the yanks are to getting rapped by companies. The problem is the rest of the world needs to hang its head in shame these days as well.

I wonder on the following two points...

1) Why aren't consumer groups worldwide crucifying Microsoft?

2) How much has replacement for RROD tainted sales figures? (alot of people seem to mention hocking the repaired console and buying a new one)

Last but not least will the fanboys please leave previous Playstations out of the discussion, yes there were SOME problems, but nothing like this. The fact people expect their console to fail at least once speaks a magnitude.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

You guys got it all wrong, it's not at 33% but its now risen to a 69% failure rate...

Oh well (^_<)

[Veneno]

And 360 Red Rings on average Joe Shmoe Dad and Sarah Soccer Mom. MS needs to really fix this by that time. My launch 360 RROD'd last Thursday. No chance in hell I'm buying another one and once again throwing away hundreds of dollars on a machine that's inferior to PS3 anyway. The only people that will buy 360 after 360 are the stupid bots that love getting it up the buns-hole. The average consumer won't put up with it, but xbox hasn't reached superstar status (like ps2).if Microsoft wants any chance of blowing up in the industry (no pun intended) they have no choice but to fix this.

[Blacksand1]

I wasn't talking about Playstation 1,2 or 3 I was saying how good the

system be I had my Playstation 1,2 for a long time and if a system

break more than to times go with another company, don't beat your

self trying to hold on to one that break all the time a fool and his

money will soon part and that's what's happen with Xbox they throw a

bad system out there and fools brought it. Ukilnme is one of them

fools who brought in to Xbox lies now he is mad at me because i'm

telling the truth about a crappy system they had 5 years to fix the

problem. That's why I waited on the PS3 and I love it, I can get

online for free, i'm not paying for crap like Xbox people.