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FFXIII - No 'Downgrade'

From Gametrailers:

"I wanted to post this because there's been loads of threads created in confusion over the article. There was some site uffsite.net reporting that FFXIII has seen a downgrade, and so GT has been spewing with hate all day. That is false."

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pure pwnage245379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

His eyes have been blinded from the bright red headlights from his xbox 360

By the way 3sq LOL that was funny, bubblez up man!

DonCorneo5379d ago

because it is already ugly to begin with.

Simon_Brezhnev5379d ago

lmao you should know xbox fanboys are the most delusional truth before their eyes but you know square is going to make 360 better clearer because of microsoft's money either way Vs13 will look better then both of them.

ShinMaster5379d ago

On the "rpgamer" links, if you get a hot-linking error, just wait a bit and the pic will load up automatically.

Gue15379d ago

@3sq you should do a blog or something and then submit it on N4G. =)

SaberEdge5379d ago

The gametrailers post already answered all that. Those are from an older build. The most current trailers have looked amazing.

Pistolero5379d ago

Who is this nasim guy?...he seems like a moron from what I gather.

coolirisGB5378d ago

A mythical fanboy with dangerous fanatical resolve. People PM me telling me of the legends. Some say he has 30 accounts and he make up the majority of all fanatical PS3 fanboys on this site. Some say he is able to hack this site and he studies how it works so he can control N4G.

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Lawliet5378d ago

Well I don't know about the downgrading thing. But you do get this part right.

These are not CGI
http://www.imagebam.com/ima...
http://www.imagebam.com/ima...

These are CGI
http://www.rpgamer.com/game...
http://www.rpgamer.com/game...

Actually to see the differences between an in-game and CGI is hair comparison. No developers get those right hahaha it's almost impossible! Nonetheless it still look amazing! Final-Fantasy always been story and gameplay wise, so just enjoy the game dammit!

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360_Owners_Are_Bums5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Let's be honest. Developers know they are dealing with low class and low intellect gamers when they sell or develop Xbox 360 games.

Multiplatform development is no different.

For every corner they can cut because of the inferiority of the Xbox 360 much like its users), they know they can get away with perhaps increased revenue for any low brow tactics to sell to 360 users.

What is sad is that the average 360 owner is either a 30+ year old ditch digger who holds a dead end job or a pre-pubescent teen who is probably so spoiled his parents have forgotten how to discipline them and leading their child to the aforementioned example of the 30+ year old man child who trolls the internet all day long at a dead end job.

FFXIII would have been a masterpiece on the high class PS3 system if it was an exclusive. Now it is going to appeal to the lower life form known as the 360 user. Perhaps Square Enix will make use of the advanced technology in the PS3 but I doubt it considering they have to probably have to use the limited capacity of DVD-9 technology reserved for the monkeys known as 360 owners.

Microsoft really created a generation of trash and filth when they made the 360. Hopefully, next generation will be a little more classier.

kaveti66165379d ago

Don't be an elitist jackass. At the end of the day, the PS3 is a glorified game machine. It's not a dialysis machine, or a cancer pill, or anything of that magnitude of importance. I can tell you that the Xbox 3 will be more powerful than the PS3 so what's the point in bashing the Xbox brand, seeing as it will continue to evolve.

360_Owners_Are_Bums5379d ago

You see PS3 owners? Look at the filthy Xbox 360 owner who decided to take a break from watching Maury and Jerry Springer to troll on the internet. I mean, hell, even his profile states he is a poor sloth:

"I like games. My budget prevents me from owning every console ever created and every game to boot. I am a gaming fanboy, not a sales fanboy or a console fanboy. I have been known to be a graphics whore this gen, but what can I say, I fell into the hype machines. Games FTW. Fanboys can go to the bad place."

"My budget prevents me."

These are the words of a leech of society and one of the many reasons why you never want to be associated with such trash as the Xbox 360 or its owners. Hell, he even has a gamertag, thus solidifying his place at the bottom of the evolution scale.

PS3 owners, thank you for being high class and not sacrificing quality for "sales talk," "hardware defects," or the like. I applaud you and anytime you see an Xbox 360 owner, I think you should turn your nose up at them considering they probably smell like sh!t too.

Disgusting filth.

kaveti66165379d ago

Thanks for proving my point. You're calling me filth? Are you for real? It's a good thing you found your niche in the internet, because in the real world you would get strangled for that kind of talk.

360_Owners_Are_Bums5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Another point I forgot to make, which was proven by the filth's above statement, is the fact that these filthy Xbox 360 owners have to resort to caveman tactics. Look at him/her/it. Threatening me with what?

Physical violence? Please. Good luck living your life that way and not ending up in jail one way or the other.

You are trash and always will be. I'm sorry you can't be more civilized but have to resort to caveman-esque tactics and physical violence. I guess I would be raging against the world too if I had your life working 8 hours a day on my couch watching soap operas while collecting a welfare check and not buying enough food to feed your family since you spent it all on GTAIV DLC.

Maybe that's why Xbox 30 owners love the 360. When it gets the RROD, it reminds them of fire, which cavemans were fond of.

Poor, disgusting trash.

iagainsti1205378d ago

@360_Owners_Are_Bums - dude your a douche STFU no one likes you, i have an xbox 360 how does that make me filth exactly? oh wait it doesn't because I don't act like winy piece of sh!t that thinks that brand loyalty is all there is to life. Wake up smell the coffee and get a life.

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Cwalat5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Don't know if it's downgraded or not, but this game looks gorgeous... These are the LATEST screens from Aug 3rd:

1: http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

2: http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

3: http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

4: http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

... And guys, don't worry about the quality of the graphics. This game won't come out before 2010 (in US/EU), so they have plenty of polishing time.

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original seed5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

allowed. Get a life.

GiantEnemyCrab5379d ago

3sq why don't you show some respect to fellow gamers this is the Gamer Zone not the zoo next door. You can post links all you want.

SaberEdge5379d ago

It's looking amazing. People always jump to wrong conclusions.

Cwalat5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

3sq@

What are you waiting for? Call 911!

edit: I'm beginning to understand why more websites need to hand out IP-bans. Too bad the website that needs it the most doesn't support it.

el zorro5379d ago

Everybody knew it was BS from the beginning. Fanboys were just trying to make a fuss about nothing at all. The game is still in development and is going to go through lots of changes as the developer dials in the right balance. What we do know is that FF13 looks far better than any other JRPG to come out this generation.

DevastationEve5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

"...they have plenty of time for polishing."

Yep, that they do...as long as it's just until next year though, and nobody better jinx this game! It's been a good long wait and I'm ready to play a real FF.

Hm...why did those extreme fanboys come up with such a bad conclusion? The game is going to look great and in fact it already DOES! You just have to realize what's CGI and what's not. Just like in Uncharted, Naughtydog said that the game's cinemas are prerendered to avoid loading times and keep their framerate consistent. A lot of fanboys decided to overlook that and claim that it was realtime.

Same thing here. It's hard to tell when 50GB of space means they can trick you with high bitrate video quality...

edit:

disagree all you want, Squeenix is no stranger to FMVs in a game...ever played FF VII, FF VIII, FF IX, FF X, FF XI, FF XII, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve II, Xenogears (anime/CGI FMVs), Xenosaga Episodes I II and III, The Bouncer...the list goes on!

Is it what I said about Uncharted? Look it up, ND said it themselves.

Traveler5379d ago

One of the reasons I have always loved the Playstation platforms is because of Final Fantasy. So even if the game did get a downgrade I would still be waiting for it with enormous anticipation. Nothing is going to stop me from getting this game. I do agree though that the new screen grabs look really good.

DevastationEve5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Hey Traveler, nobody has to worry that Squeenix won't make FF XIII up to PS3 fan's expectations. Even when they went multiplatform with it it's still PlayStation that's getting it first. They made a financial decision (oddly enough) due to how expensive to make these games have become. Especially when we're talking big companies like Squeenix who have groves of starving artists itching to make something to pay off their cars.

This is why they've already made so many rpgs this gen alone and have another couple in the works, and then other games besides that genre (like Project Sylpheed).

edit at below:

glad to hear it. yeah it'd pretty much be advisable that people should have both consoles if they want a game so bad. i'm thinkin about ps3 someday, it's just that i really don't even have the time for one let alone two consoles. though i'm actually logged on here quite a bit, but only since i use my phone to get online wherever i am :\

nycredude5379d ago

I don't really care anymore. Like Giantenemycrab, I am now proud to be a dual console owner. Would be kind of wierd to buy a final fantasy game on the 360 though so I'll get it for the Ps3!

Note: I bagged me a used first generation 360 with fable 2, halo 3, Madden 07, and topspin 2 for $100 cash! I'm surprised it's still alive, being as it's first generation.

CWMR5379d ago

-my first gen 360 is still alive too.. keeps on kicking. You nabbed a great buy there. Enjoy it man.-

nycredude5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

@cwmr

Thanks man. I got lucky. Since it the first generation and still kicking T'm assuming (and hoping) that I got one of the "good" models. I'll find out soon as I am going to put it through its paces. Pretty siked for fable 2 and I bought Mass Effect already!

@apocalyPS3 You should get around to buying the Ps3 when you get a chance it really is the shiat. One thing I notice now that I have both consoles is the difference in build quality. I'm not putting the 360 down, it's just that it's so... I don't know how to explain it... fisher price like. But hey as long as it plays great games I don't care.

Pistolero5379d ago

Hmm...that's strange...I like the way the 360 looks and the build quality seems the same between both systems to me. Anyway...good job!...welcome to the ranks of the ever growing dual console gaming brotherhood.

jackdoe5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

It does still look pretty and these shots look better than the PS3 demo that I own (more optimization time helps). I have no doubt that when it releases in Japan this year, that the game will look gorgeous.

However, that is beside the point as this "article" should not have been approved. It is a forum post and those who approved it should have their approval power taken away.

steck675379d ago

3sq AKA cry baby little b!tch, here's a link for you: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Pika-pie5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Lol, gotta love the interwebs.

Anyway, without a doubt it will be one of the best games this gen but in terms of graphics... it looks great... but nothing has given me that wow factor yet unlike MGS4, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2.

In fact, some non cutscene gameplay has looked very ugh. Check out the E3 trailer towards the end where it shows a couple of characters running through some environments.. (A forest, a field with birds in the air and an icy cave). Game is still a year out so I hope they improve it

Hoolock5379d ago

I agree that this game looked and still looks amazing. Personally i think that the whole downgraded news was a large lie or mix up because it seemed too implausable to be true.

Jecht5379d ago

Should we really care? There's so much B.S. coming out of SE that you could say that FFXIII was 8-Bit and you'd have a 50/50 chance of being correct.

I'm so tired with SE. Why can't they just get the damn game out already?

cyberwaffles5378d ago

ND said that they edited the lighting a bit, it's not pre-rendered. it's still in-game.

shadow27975378d ago

*sigh* Uncharted IS prerendered, but it's not CGI. It's rendered with the Naughty Dog engine, this is not the same as in-game, but it is still impressive.

http://www.psu.com/PSU-talk...

At the bottom.

*On Topic*

Probably the most impressive thing XIII does is hair. It may be the best hair this generation. Anyone agree?

mastiffchild5378d ago

I dunno why people think FF13 has a yearr of polishing time left when it's out at Xmas in Japan-what, you think they'll offer a better product to people outside their homeland? Good luck with that!

I still feel that the people who bought their PS3 on the strngth of SE going on for years about FF13 only being on PS3 have a right to be upset at both that and not having a single game from SE this gen. However, the game will still look pretty good, prolly better than anu other JRPGs this gen so we shouldn't over worry on this.

I firmly believe that , had it either remained PS3 exclusive OR even gone exclusive to 360 it would end up a better looking (and possibly running)game than what we'll actually get.

I-SEE-YOU5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Those links are of rendered cut scenes, that is 'not' gameplay. Talk about denial.

pixelsword5378d ago

The game was reported to "fill the blu-ray", and the blu-ray holds five times as much data as a DVD; so if this FF is less than five DVD's then the game would have been reduced in some way.

And this isn't a slam against the 360 or praising the PS3: this is all to see if S-E is telling the truth or not.

GameGambits5378d ago

Personally I know the game lost some of its quality the second it went multiplatform. You have to change dead lines, hire more people who could screw up here and there, work even harder and longer with different technology back and forth for some people, and Square admitted fully that they want to make the games equal.

You know how you make a game originally slated as a PS3 exclusive multiplatform? YOU DOWNGRADE IT!!! You seriously think Uncharted 2 can be multiplatform at that current level of polish and what it is doing with the CPU in a PS3? Hell no! You'd have to take both and dumb them down hard core.

Get off sucking your thumbs morons pretending this game didn't get stripped down of what it could've been. Square sold out and that's that. Nomura is the only thing that will be able to keep that company alive from now on with Kingdom Hearts and Versus 13, because they suckle his tit to keep afloat with their lame brain money grubbing moves this generation.

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Saaking5379d ago

Good, I can see how being on more than 2 disks can downgrade the quality; however, the 360 is a very capable machine and I think FF XIII will be good. Sure it could have been better if exclusive, just like all exclusives, but I'm still anticipating this game (Though GOW III is my priority for Spring 2010).

CWMR5379d ago

-I think he means that you posted one thing in the open zone and something completely opposite in the gamer zoen, amirite?-

Saaking5379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

Eh, I just like messing around in the open zone. It's pretty funny. I actually like my 360 and enjoy it's games.

mastiffchild5378d ago

I'm actually Bi-polar and what you pointed out is NOT likely behaviour for a sufferer but more like someone with multiple personality disorders.

Bi-polar is more about the swings between the extremes of ONE personality than acting in a way completely at odds to yourself(like someone, in my case, taking risks they usually wouldn't but not changing your general opinions).

It's not really that funny either, tbh.

FerrisRocksFaces5378d ago

Maybe in 5 or so minutes you'll think it's funny.

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Saaking5379d ago

Good, I'll get the superior version on one disk for my PS3

NegativeCreep4275379d ago (Edited 5379d ago )

As a blind, delusional Xbox 360 d*ckhead, I must say that multiple disc swapping sessions and downgraded audio and graphics are the true way to go in this generation. Who wants blu-ray and superior hardware when you can just kick it old-school and play like its 1999!!!!!

Oh yes it is!!!

I mean...This is 1999 isn't it???

Edit @ El Dorko

"If anything the 360 version is going to look better than the PS3 version, just like most games."

Look, its the pot calling the kettle black. Who the F looks delusional now?

The PS3 version is the primary code. The 360 version is a direct port. If you have any common sense (or even any technical knowledge in the exact logistics of HOW videogames are developed) you can take what I just said and come to reality and see your claim there is just fanboyish hyperbole.

el zorro5379d ago

Oh please, you guys are so f-n delusional. The two versions are going to be more or less the same. If anything the 360 version is going to look better than the PS3 version, just like most games. I have both consoles and I am still going to get this for the 360. Taking 10 seconds to change a disc every 10 hours of gameplay is a NON-ISSUE.

CWMR5379d ago

-ghostbusters and dead space lead development on the ps3, but the 360 still ended up with the better looking versions-

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972126d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus126d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda124d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B124d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981124d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot124d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda123d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot123d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy123d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay124d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12126d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay124d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB124d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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