Alan Wake Fans Launch Internet Petition

Alan Wake fans unhappy that the PC version of the game has been shelved have, shockingly, launched an internet petition asking Microsoft to clarify its position and release a PC version as soon after the Xbox 360 launch as possible.

[Arsenic13]

Did they not say, 360 first. Pc later? Maybe Im mistaken, but thats what I heard.

[SevWolf]

Nope, they, unfortunately, totally cancelled the PC version...I feel sorry for my friend, he was a high-end PC (by high end I mean Crysis running smoothly with high settings) but doesnt have a 360

[Rainstorm81]

a petition really??? Go buy a Xbox 360! you cant cry everytime you cant get a game. so i guess X360 fans shouls petition to get Uncharted 2 or PS3 fans should petition to get Halo.

I mean really?????? Is this what gaming has come to?

Maybe PC gamers like to b!tch and complain, i was on your side about L4D2 but this is ridiculous

LOL@disagree

Okay join me in the Alan Wake for PS3 petition! (equally ridiculous)

[GameOn]

Shelved does not mean cancelled. Think of it as being put on hold.

[StanLee]

Who didn't see this coming?

[AnttiApina]

The PC version is currently in hold. MS rethinks if they want to release it for the PC when the 360 version is released.

Edit: Thanks for that guy who gave me a disagree.

Also I singed this yesterday when it was still under 100. Now it's already at 1200!

[FarEastOrient]

Even though I usually get more than one version of a game, the PC version should still be a must for those that Windows centric. I've compared many Xbox 360 games that way and games like Fallout 3, Fable, Gears of War, and Mass Effect are all superior on the PC platform than on the Xbox 360 platform even if they use similar architectures and coding patterns.

Alan Wake was one of those games that cried yes the PC version is going to be better because of all the demands that will be needed to run it they way it was originally targeted. For example the tornado generated using the game engine looked very good when running on the PC but can the Xbox 360 do the same?

[Hideous Kojima]

I'm gonna play this amazing looking game on my 360 anyways, as most of the people will, so I don't care if there's a PC version.

GOTY 2010 can't come soon enough!

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Although I sympathize with them, buy a 360. It cost about the same as a graphics card, has less configuration issues and you don't have to upgrade again next year.

You can thank me later.

[mastiffchild]

Raiinsom81-why shouldn't PC only gamers be pi55ed off over this? Why should they be silenced by you being selfish and "I'm alright, Jack" about it?

Truth is this could be happening more and more to PC gamers. Gears2 and Fable2 have already been taken away from them after previous games were released on PC and I think MS may have got Remedy to take this decision as they take the "I'll play it on PC anyway" attitude more seriously than we gamers do. They like there to be good exclusive reasons to buy a 360 but if they(or Remedy) wish to do this they should've done it at the start or at least a lot sooner. As it is PC gamers have been waiting for this game just as long as us with 360's and to have it "shelved" with the recent history of PC/360 games starting to just come out on 360 why shouldn't they be annoyed?

I won't be joining the petition but, christ, they have every reason to be upset and every reason to worry that it may not ever arrive on PC even though everything we've evr seen up to this E3 was from the PC version! Te more I look the more it seems like MS want this as, at the very least, a timed 360 exclusive. I expect more 360/PC games to only appear on 360 if I'm honest. I'd prolly have got the 360 vesion anyway but I think it's bad that PC gamers waiting five years for this game ave been told last minute to stick it.

And it's even worse that 360 only gamers think that they shouldjust shut up and swallow it-what if it was the other way round wouldn't you be upset? Don't be so silly about these things when they have every right to be upset at Remedy or whoever was behind this.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Well looking at it from the other view is that games released on PC tend to get pirated to oblivion and cannibalize their console game sales.

Didn't Infinity Ward show some insane numbers for CoD4, where they sold a fraction of the number of PC gamers online actually bought the game?

[Rainstorm81]

Consoles get exclusive games!

PC get exclusive games!

My console of preference is the PS3 first of all. Thats the relationship you have when a console is so closely designed after a PC. Im sure alan wake has been gimped because of this decision, it was supposed to be open world.

I agree MS is probably behind this, the x360 needs a console identity. Almost every exclusive is available on PC. With the PS3 almost none of the exclusives are available anywhere else.

No one is petitioning for Starcraft 2 (oh i want it) or WoW or Crysiss on console so it sucks but........ yeah get over it everyone else does.

@ tony P below

Exactly, I agree bubbles

[Tony P]

I was annoyed at first, but I got over it. Mainly because I realise it's just not the same game. Obviously they've completely optimized and revamped the game for the 360. As far as I know, the Alan Wake c. 2005-2008 I planned to purchase is dead and gone.

This game is back to square one for me. Forget everything that was said before June 09.

Let's just see what the game has to offer for my 360 now.

[Greywulf]

It makes 0 sense. PC's have to be uprgaded to run the latest in gaming technology, not console games. Crysis/Arma2 all run around the same requirements on max. Those have been the only games you've had to upgrade realistically for since Half Life 2. In 2004.

Alan Wake 2 on the 360 will still run on the same old PC.

Its total ignorance "haha buying videocards every 2 years!" -- Although this helps you sleep at night, its wrong.

If you had a gaming pc at the start of this console gaming gen, 3 years later you still wouldn't have to upgrade to run console led games because the 360 hasn't increased its ram, or any other specifications. Its why you can always play multiplatform console games on non-superstar machines and have higher resolutions/quality than the console versions. & get this.. you can use your controller! And tvout with most videocards. Which means you sit at your couch playing a game on your PC. Yea, really.

Games like Crysis and ARMA2 are in the minority of hardware pushing games. Alan Wake/COD4/Bioshock/Half Life/Left4Dead/MassEffect/Assa ssins Creed/GTA4/all console multiplats arent.

Even emachines have 1gig of ram now and 256mb videocards.

Get with the times.

[Rainstorm81]

" Alan Wake/COD4/Bioshock/Half Life/Left4Dead/MassEffect/Assa ssins Creed/GTA4/all console multiplats arent.

Even emachines have 1gig of ram now and 256mb videocards."

you cant play any of those games with a pc like that^^

I have 2Gb ram 2Ghz dual processor Nvidia geforce 7000m , Pretty good cpu it wont play any game you named besides L4D and Half Life

[Bnet343]

People want a PC version just to pirate it.

[agentace]

thats because your PC (which i think is a laptop) doesn`t have a GFX card its got a built in 1 and they are pretty much useless for gaming. (and if it is a laptop they are crap for gaming fullstop)

[Greywulf]

Emachine with a 256mb videocard would eat through Half Life2 & L4D2 any day of the week, as well as cod4 and the rest of the titles I've mentioned. You could play them at the beloved console 720p resolution for sure.

Just stop.

[JokesOnYou]

I'll say it again...no gamer is entitled to ANY specific game whether its a sequel or brand new IP. Sure there are "expectations", some of which are reasonable, like a sony or micro advertising certain launch games that will release with the console, including ads of future games that are "owned" by micro or sony, therefore a consumer might buy a ps3 with an "reasonable expectation" that they will be able to play a few key titles since the platform maker owns the rights and has sold the hardware using those titles.

Absolutely nobody buys ANY platform thinking they will have acess/play every game available or past games that appeared on that plaform. It's never been that way before and specifically related to pc gaming this has happened often enough that nobody should be surprised. OK, OK I know it looks like a great game and with Remedy's comments it may be more dissapointing than others but the fact is the games current devlopment has a lot to do with micro's support and if the folks who are paying the bills feel its in their best interest to release it only on the 360(it will come to pc) then how the hell are pc gamers "entitled" to anything? NO, they buy a 360 or just wait....hell how many pc gamers have thought about the amount of pc games that would be released over the last few years if it wasn't for micro's continued support of pc gaming....they could easily of abandoned pc gaming, blamed it on the rampant piracy anf focused all their efforts on their bread n' butter when it comes to gaming= 360.

JOY

[Rainstorm81]

a laptop with crap gaming capabilities.

It cant even play GTA san andreas at full settings. let alone GTA4

That what i meant it depends on more than just Ram and video card.

@greywulf
dig dug lol, no i can play games just not all the current gen games you mentioned, i can play L4D fine though. besides i have a PS3 and mainly do my gaming on console

stop what? having a conversation about gaming put your maxi pad on, im not trying to take anything away from pc gaming i just think everything has exclusive games no need to cry about Alan Wake. You seem hurt you must be the bubble bandit guess what this is the internet i could care less. LOL

I guess all fanboys are d!cks (PC, 360, PS3, Wii)

[coolirisGB]

No one said anything like that. Microsoft is only releasing the game on the 360 that's all, with Remedy saying that's what the publishers want but we would like to do a PC version if allowed for their PC fanbase. Ontopic. no one cares what a handful of pro Sony PC users think about this.

[Tony P]

"That what i meant it depends on more than just Ram and video card."

You don't even HAVE a card. Really, what is your point?

If you had a dedicated card (even just a 256MB card) you'd probably be able to run those games properly. You don't and so you can't. And yet you're trying to pretend cards don't matter as if you even had one to begin with.

No offence, but you are wrong are you've been corrected. Learn something and move on instead of pretending you were right all along. This is nicest way this will be said to you.

[Rainstorm81]

Seems like alot of people feel butt hurt because Alan Wake isnt coming to PC( in the forseeable future) I stand by my statement go buy a 360 if you want to play it if not go play Crysis or World of warcraft or Shut up!

Thats where ill play it reguardless of my PC capabilities. If you want to play it you will do the same.

@Tony P
I said my LAPTOP wasnt up to current gen gaming. go buy a emachines PC with 1gb ram and a256 vid card and play gta4 flawlessly.

Everyone with a problem take your frustration out in some games. See me online or STFU!

[SaberEdge]

On the one hand this is exactly what I think Microsoft need to be doing for the 360 and it is in their best interest. On the other hand, I think it is only natural that PC gamers will be disappointed and upset.

The sad thing is, Microsoft can't win with some people.

If they release their games on the PC and 360 simultaneously some people will say that the 360 has no exclusives.

If they release their games only on the 360, some people will say that PC gamers are getting shafted.

If they buy up development studios to bolster their first party output, the way Sony have done, some people will say that Microsoft is throwing their weight around and buying out the competition.

If Microsoft enter into a contract with a 3rd party developer for an exclusive (which is their most common approach), some people will say they are just "buying exclusives".

So, my question to those people is, what can Microsoft do to get exclusives (which is an absolute necessity for every platform) that won't cause you to cry foul?

[Tony P]

@Raiin

Well, bottom line: you're still wrong about the PC thing. I was trying to be nice about it.

Anyway, you're out of bubbles so no point in arguing the matter further.

[JokesOnYou]

The answer is NOTHING, thats what the internet crybabies do, they want their cake and eat it too, they cry about everything. Micro should continue to do exactly what they are doing now; laugh(ignore) the few naysayers and continue to make games available for both 360/PC simultaneously, timed exclusive and a few select exclusives....why not? I mean despite what a few fanboys say on this site their strategy is helping both platforms and games being on PC/360 are NOT hurting 360 game sales, so what if it makes a few fanboys feel better to downplay the 360 because this or that game is on pc...those gamers who refuse to buy a 360 but instead buy windows pc games are just another source of income for micro. lol, I think some people give this site too much credit, I'd be surprised if someone with a real job of importance at micro spent much time on this site....I hope for all 360 owners sake he has something more important to do, lmfao micro isn't going to change a thing as far as this strategy goes.

JOY

[Gamertags]

I love petitions. You think that the petition means anything? Heck no.

[SaberEdge]

@JokesOnYou

I agree with you that Microsoft is doing pretty much what they should be doing. Why wouldn't they want to generally give both of their platforms support? Some games exclusively for the 360 only, some for both the PC and 360 ..I think their strategy is a good one. My point, of course, is that no matter which approach they take at any given point in time, there is always going to be a certain group of people there criticizing them for it.

[peacock1]

Wasnt this game supposed to be being developed for the PC and then ported to 360 at first ? Heck im sure theres even a vid of intel using it to show the power of a quad core processor somewhere.

Wonder why they changed...

@ Jokes on you

Id disagree, being able to play and game on another platform (even if it is pc) will hurt a consoles sales. Imagen if GT5 or Uncharted 2 was on pc - ALOT of people who may have bought a PS3 but have a decent pc would just pick it up on pc instead.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

The insanely long dev time it took for it to run on the 360 forced them to cancel the PC version. See what happens when you make big promises of a game having nice graphics on a console that can't handle it.

[IaMs12]

I have to say it even tho someone else might have but it sure looks like the PS3 boys are pretty mad lol. As you all can testify every PS3 boy stated they will just buy it for PC, looks like they maybe a little mad. Anyways i had to say it, but im still not happy with that because there are many people out there who dont have either consoles and play PC. Im not saying i like the idea, i dont.

[aaron5829]

You may think you sound smart... but no.

You sound like an idiot to me.. that's why you got a disagree from me, and the many others.

[mebob]

@Greywulf

I absolutely agree!!, i hate this stupid stereotypical mentality that console gamers (most who are 360 fanboys) think about PC gamers. You do not have to upgrade every frken year to play the lateset games. A 8800GT which was realse 2 and a half years ago can run nowadays games easily at med- high settings and it will still cream the consoles graphics.

@Raiinstorm81

"That what i meant it depends on more than just Ram and video card."

ok? then tell me what else besides those thing and a decent CPU?.

"360 if you want to play it if not go play Crysis or World of warcraft or Shut up! "

Why should they shut up? Complaining is a cheaper alternative then getting a 360...

IMO, M$ is just trying to maximize profits while limiting piracy, They'll convert as many PC gamers to 360 owners as possible (which wont be much since PC gamers are alot smarter then the usual 360 fanboys) then they will milked it enough until it will eventually makes it way to PC.....which is a pretty good idea from a business perspective, form a gamer perspective M$ are jackasses.....

[snp]

"So, my question to those people is, what can Microsoft do to get exclusives (which is an absolute necessity for every platform) that won't cause you to cry foul?"
----

Easy. Fund development of specific games ground up which are promised to remain XBox360 exclusive from the get go. Don't exploit the PC version for press (which inevitably is higher quality), and most of all don't string along PC users with said version for up to years while it's being culled in back room deals for the benefit of little brother (Xbox).

It's not that hard, is it?

Were this game and Fable and Halo and Gears and whatever to come out as 'Xbox360 exclusive' games with no PC promises/involvement - as Perfect Dark, and quite a few others already have - no one who owns a PC would care less and Microsoft would have their exclusives.

[Hildor_muthafo]

pussies.... seriously. They can do whatever they want, its their game.

[Poopface the 2nd]

have you ever played a PC game before. Go look at the recommended system requirements for assassins creed and tell me a PC with a 256 mb GPU and 1 gig of ram will run it even close to smooth.

Funny you mention Emachines, as you described my computer exactly. I have a 2.4 amd athlon64 wiht 1 gig ram and a 256mb x800 GPU. A few years ago I tried to play the bioshock demo, not even close. It wasnt chopy and downgraded, it just didnt work.

It really depends on the GPU. and your gonna need more than 1 gig of ram. If I wanted my comp to play games as well as ps3/360 id need to upgrade my computer alot.

The only games my comp can run decent is source engine games. And I need to play L4D on lower setting than CS cause of all the zombies on screen.

[free2game365]

It was originally designed as a PC first game, it was only shown running on the Xbox 360 publicly this year. All of the previous footage and that E3 trailer was running off of a developer's PC.

[Nikuma]

..that it was announced for PC and now it's canceled/shelved or whatever. If it was announced as a 360 exclusive from the start no PC gamer wouldn't care. Instead they dangled the game under PC gamers noses and people got hyped about it, and now they're left disappointed.

I personally was going to wait for reviews and more gameplay footage before deciding to get this on the PC, but now I've pretty much just loss all interest in the game. I'm not gonna buy a 360 for one flipping game.

[Sonyslave3]

ahhahah ps3fanboys begging MS to please bring Alan Wake to pc.

[Pandamobile]

You're a retard.

[NegativeCreep427]

Correction: He's a F*cking Retard!

Just trying to ruffle some feathers and get some attention since mommy and daddy just lock him in an attic till bedtime.

This in no way compares to the b*tching and hissy-fits MS butt-buddies have displayed trying to get MGS4 on the 360, though.

[-MD-]

I'm donating 250,000,000 of my own personal money to charity to help the poor kids buy an Xbox 360.

Edit: You guys are heartless bastards.

[presto717]

Thats just such a horrible thing to say. You think millions of people just choose to be poor?

YOU ARE AN A$$HOLE.

EDIT: Why did you change the comment? You should have left it so people will see what you said. Unless of course you are ashamed already.

[Stately Gentleman]

dont make me pimp slap you mofo

[-MD-]

Good golly gosh you people are rude.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

The irony in that is that all the PC fans that want Alan Wake on the pc, their computers probably cost double or triple that of the 360.

[-Mezzo-]

the stupidest comment i have heard.

[-MD-]

I'm enjoying this one.

[presto717]

Just cuz you got M$'s defective hardware doesnt mean you can go around talking that kind of sh1t.

And me? Upset? You must have lost your freaking mind. My glossy, shinny 160gb PS3 is smiling at me right now. You're the one who should be upset.

[-MD-]

You're a goth? Don't tell us these things dude, cut yourself elsewhere.

Stop raging and telling me I'm getting under your skin it's just too easy.

[presto717]

Always trying to sound cunning and sly. Well you know what troll, cut the crap. And I not raging. I'm just saying you said something very stupid.

MAN THE 7UCK UP AND ADMIT THAT YOU WEREN'T THINKING WHEN YOU MADE THAT COMMENT.

Jeez...

[-MD-]

I'm not going to apologize for donating my life savings to charity. You sir are evil.

[IcyJoker187]

murder was making fun of poor people but changed his comment!
what a twat he is

[presto717]

I know you're trying to hide what you said, but those who saw it saw it. Lie all you want, it wont change anything.

EDIT: Thank you IcyJoker for saying it. Expose the troll for what he really is.

He says something, but cant even back it up when the heat is on. Instead runs to hide behind lies. "Donations" my a$$.

WHAT A B1TCH....

[-MD-]

This might be the most fun I've ever had on N4G.

The Final Fantasy 13 announcement from E3 last year was slightly more fun but this is close.

Canadian Guy is making me giggle.

Edit: You guys are all crazy I have no idea what you're talking about! and I don't bubble myself up.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Wow.Muderdolls just proved to everyone that he is the true scum of N4G.

Even so shameless as to edit his comment and lie.

What a sick, twisted, heartless bastard you are.
Pathetic 360 fanboy.

[Nathan123]

Murderdoll talks about donating money in charity and then bi*ches about PS3 price being high... WHAT A FU*KING BI*CH... And making fun of poor people.... People like you fuc*ing tarnish the 360 name... Seriously, I could take all those trolling statements, but making fun of someone incapable is the limit you f*cking troll. Where are the Mods when you need them...

I say eat his bubbles... Oh wait he/she/it will bubble up with all those multiple.... (don't want to get banned... hoped you understand)

EDIT: Wow that was quick... Lost a bubble as soon as I posted... Might be all those multiple.....

[presto717]

Dude, you lost a bubble? How and why? Did the mods do that?

Hey hey hey!!

WTF is going on here?!!

[Nathan123]

Nah Presto... It might be Murderdolls with all those you know what.... Once I was on 5 and dropped down to 3... then increased to 4 in the past week and now again 3 (thanx to MD)... This fluctuation always happens... At least I don't run and create multiple accounts since even those will be raped by this pathetic system....

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

You guys all lost to the troll...

[Pootangpie]

first of all that guy is full of hot air it was shown simutationsly for the 360 and PC at X06 with a gameplay build for both versions personally I was going to get the PC version over the 360 one but now I don't really care I still will be able to play it on my 360 it sucks sure but no big loss

[rawrockkillz]

If they really wanted to show off the graphics for this game they would release for the PC as well

[mcgrawgamer]

I'm sorry but as a pc gamer first ps3 gamer second I have to question the integrity of this petition and people who support it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't have many pc gaming friends who even wanted this game, and those like me who wanted to experience it; it wasn't that high up on the list to where I'm signing a petition about it. I do have access to a 360 I bought for my kids but even then it's not high up on the list of games to get at release. I have a lot respect for remedy after the max payne series (which I did play on pc) but it's not like I'm gonna lose any sleep over alan wake tbh.

I wonder how many of the petition signees are even pc gamers to begin with? I may get disagrees for this but I think we can all agree that the question I'm asking is not too far fetched this generation.

[Raf1k1]

You're right no one is going to lose any sleep over this. I'd be surprised if they did TBH.

There are many who like me have been waiting a long time for this game as it was announced for the PC before the 360 was even released.
People have waited for this game for a long time and then to be told it's been shelved without knowing whether or not it will ever come to PC is a kick in the balls.

The least they should do is tell us whether or not it will eventually come to PC since some are still expecting it to do so in which case they will likely hold off buying a 360 for it or if they have one they may be holding off in the hope it does come to the PC.

[mebob]

IMO, the people who are for the petition are mostly the smarter gamers AKA the people who bought a ps3 and has a decent enough PC. What Raf1k1 says sums it all up pretty well on why these people feel jib by M$ over this issue.

I am also a PC gamer, i don't own either console atm. Athough ALan wake wasn't at the top of my list, it still annoys me that M$ would do this to us PC gamers....

[KingKionic]

wow....lol

[Captain Tuttle]

Internet petitions ALWAYS work.

[silent h3ro]

It's better than not even trying I suppose.

[-Mezzo-]

It will come to PC for sure, so there is nop point in this petition.

[mastiffchild]

Like Fable2 and Gears2 you mean? We all said the same about those games which ALSO had te previous games on PC so IDK about AWPC at all.

I know plenty of folk who wanted this for PC and they've had a hell of a wait already so why shouldn't they voice their disapproval?

They prolly know it won't change much but better to let Remedy know they feel they've behaved poorly after promising people the games for so long than just letting it slip by isn't it?

Or should we just accept our shaftings from devs these days? Certainly people seem to think it's OK for Activision as a publisher to dump on UK gamers so maybe I should stop being surprised by gamers not caring so long as they're ok. I don'y see why people feel those who wanted this on PC should just take this lying down at all. We get treated badly enough already without giving ourselves grief over standing up for our rights-or do we all want more crappy treatment in future?

[TheTruth89]

Alan Wait will come to PC... just... wait ;D, like the name say.

[redDevil87]

and you can afford to constantly upgrade a PC than im sure you can afford to buy a 360. If you got no use for the 360 afterwards then sell it and make some of your money back

[Pandamobile]

That's a horrible idea.

[Raf1k1]

You're right. Very bad idea.

Also, some people above seem to be making the argument that no one petitions for Uncharted 2 on X360 or Halo for PS3 etc. That's different since those games were never stated to be going to any other platform but their own. Alan Wake was meant to be on PC from the start and it's future is now uncertain.
If MGS4 was stated by Kojima to be on X360 as well and then decided he'd make it PS3 exclusive I'm sure X360 gamers would make a petition about it.

[aaron5829]

Bad idea indeed. Alan Wake does not justify an x360 for me.

[mebob]

omg, this is the kind of retarded stereotypical 360fanboy mentality i was talking about......and that idea is horrible i don't think i can even sell a 360 for more than $80 were i live.....in fact i don't think i would be able to even sell it at all, no one will buy it....

[silent h3ro]

People buy gaming PCs to avoid having to play on consoles. Your logic is flawed, good sir.

[dirthurts]

It's hard to play on the 360 with it's 720p, @ 30fps and 5.1 when I can have 1080p@60+fps, and 7.1 lossless HD audio...
Not to mention the incredible textures, 8xAA, and other features that pc gamers get to enjoy.

Maybe you don't notice the difference in quality there, but I do. If there is a chance of this making it to Pc I won't touch it with my 360.

And as for the cost of upgrading your pc, not really a problem. Most people already have a pc. If you start with a decent computer it's cheap. An xbox 360 costs about 300. You can get an incredible video card, and 4 more gigs of ram for that price. Then you destroy the 360 in every way. Same end cost for most users really. The only reason to use the 360 is Gears of War, or laziness.

[Nikuma]

I upgrade my PC once every 5-6 years. That's about the amount of time it takes for next generation consoles to come out. If you think you need to constantly upgrade your PC every year or 2 to play the latest games then you really need to get a clue. No reason to buy a 360 for ONE game, that would just be retarded.

[ElementX]

Like they're going to spend millions of dollars creating a PC version when it might not even break even with sales?

[DeathMetal]

the game like most games is developed on the Pc then ported to the xbox, how does that cost millions of dollars

[Pandamobile]

Well, I signed it.

When they do release it on PC I'm sure it will have a bunch of extra stuff like GOW PC.

[Omega4]

If you want to play it buy a 360 simple as that, they are hardly that expensive. In fact they are probably cheaper than the graphics card you would need to buy to play the game anyway.

[Pandamobile]

Doesn't change the fact that I hate playing games with controllers.

And I'd rather have it look flawless on my computer than have jaggies and a low resolution.

[mastiffchild]

And what, omega, if you already upgraded your GC with playing this game as part of your reasoning? Should you then buy a 360 just for one game? Don't be silly.

They promised this game to PC gamers for ages and should give it to them, imo, but I really doubt it'll ever arrive and nor will Fable2 or Gears2-MS need their 360 exclusives is what I'm thinking is what's behinmd this trend.

It's certainly tight on PC only gamers though and I can't believe people are giving them a hard time for expecting what was once, and for a long time, promised to them.

Had the 360 version been shelved I feel we'd see much more wailing and gnashing.

[Raf1k1]

I wonder how the 360 gamers would feel if it was the 360 version that got shelved.

Would they buy a decent graphics card for it? It's not like it'd cost them much more than a 360 and the extra stuff they end up buying for it.

[mebob]

Again with the stereotypical retarded fanboy mentality once again from another 360 fanboy (not surprising)...A 9600GT cost around $100(aus) and it would cream a 360. So no, that idea is pretty stupid.....

[DeathMetal]

dollars that wiill cream the 360, not to mention the Pc has many other uses

[silent h3ro]

It makes no sense to buy a console for just one game, even if it is "cheap". I would rather buy a good new video card for $200-$300.

[DARK WITNESS]

" It makes no sense to buy a console for just one game, even if it is "cheap". I would rather buy a good new video card for $200-$300."

what about if the game is MGS4 ? ... as i did.

[AnttiApina]

I am not going to buy a console for one game even when it is made by Remedy.

If PC version is ever released then I am sure it will be a better version.

Just look at the differences between 360 version of L4D and PC version of the same game! Mods, skins, levels. You name it.

But anyway this petition is probably not going to work.

I am still going to play it!

[Raf1k1]

You're most likely right. The petition probably won't change much but it's a good way of letting Remedy know.

[MetalGearBear]

no wonder M$ is has lot of lazy development team.

[deb]

Also The Getaway 3 and Eight Days have a petition http://www.petitiononline.c... Why N4G no one has ever said?

[deb]

Also The Getaway 3 and 8 Days have a petition. Why N4G says nothing?

[Double Toasted]

...for the pc gamers who actually pay for their games, but the a$$hole pirates get a big fat... FU@K YOU very much...

[Pandamobile]

Piracy barely puts a dent in the gaming industry. Piracy is a PC gamer's way of renting games. Since we can't exactly go down to Blockbuster and try out, say Bioshock, I'll go to the PirateBay, download it, play a bit of it, and if I like it and feels like its worth purchasing I will do so. I've done this since 2006 with games like COD4, CODWAW, Gears of War, and GRID.

And then there's the people that pirate games weren't going to buy them in the first place. Every pirated copy of a game is not a loss of a sale. When are you people going to figure that out.

[Nikuma]

Yeah because people don't pirate games on the 360 amirite?

[Wolf873]

they just want to maximize the sales for 360 first, because it's possible people might actually purchase a 360 if they don't already own one to play this game. Also, since it was already in development for PC, I find it hard to believe that they will not want to continue later on and profit from the PC market.

[mastiffchild]

So, again, where is Fable2 and Gears2 et al on PC? If the first game in a series comes to PC in the same gen wouldn't you expect the next to do so?

Had this not started looking like a policy for MS to push gamers towards a more profitable gaming playform for them I would agree but not these days-I see this happening more and not less from now on in.

[Wolf873]

but I don't know much about those games, such as whether they were in development for PC at all or were merely considered. I just knew that Alan Wake was being worked on PC and was shown running on it. However, I'm merely speaking in terms of profit, even if a partial built exists for PC version, why not later on release it either way, people will still buy even after a year. If I was on the decision making team, I would certainly go for what makes sense the most and would allow more profit to be made. Anyways, let's see what happens.

However, if the company is happy with the contract fee, well than what can we do.

[mebob]

@mastiffchild

Well it took Geow over a year to make it to PC from the 360, and geow2 has only been release since last October? so i wouldn't count those games hitting the PC in the comming months, Obviously M$ and EPIC wont be announcing it until the very last min so they can maximize the sales from the 360 version.

It's just all about business for M$ so i wouldn't be worried about those games not hitting the PC soon similar to Alan wake...

[Nikuma]

I feel sorry for anyone who purchases a 360 for this one game. From the gameplay footage I've seen it wasn't so impressive that I would feel that I NEEDED this game. TBH I wasn't impressed by the gameplay footage shown much at all. Looks decent but nothing stellar. I hope they show some more/better gameplay soon and change my opinion on it.

[No_NaMe]

Killzone 2 -- 5 years.

GT5 -- 6 Years

ETc.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Too human - 10 years..

Alan wake - announced even before KZ2 or GT5

Duke nukem - canned

LMAO

[TheTruth89]

You Stupid G@y, KZ2 was presented for the first time on E3 2005 (August)... mhh... Game Released in?? Mhhhhh!??!?! feb 2009!??!?!?!?!!?

OMG THREE.5 YEARS!!

Stupid G@y.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

The reasons the PC version was canned is because there was no way in hell the 360 version could even come close to it.

Meanwhile, Killzone 2 rivals crysis and 360 has..well..gears i guess? lol

[Double Toasted]

if you think KZ2 was even vaguely close to Crysis. KZ2 looks like what Crysis would leave in the toilet. Apparently you've never played Crysis the way it was meant to be played.

[Nathan123]

Judging by the fact that every 360 exclusive looks inferior to KZ2, even all those 360 games look like stuff to be left in the toilet....

KZ2 is the closest game to Crysis.... Well at least until Uncharted 2 arrives. Besides Crysis gameplay sucked in comparison to KZ2...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Videos + Photos say otherwise :)
http://www.gametrailers.com...

[presto717]

Crysis was a graphical showcase. What crysis lacked in gameplay, they tried to cover it up with graphics.

KZ2 graphics might not be equal to crysis, but they damn sure come close. Then there is the fact that KZ2's gameplay murders crysis' both in single and multiplayer.

Chew on that.

[Pandamobile]

That was a terrible comparison.

3/4 of that Crysis footage was pre-alpha gameplay from 2006.

Crysis and Killzone look far too different to actually compare the graphics. (One is vibrant and pretty, the other is brown and dismal). Killzone 2 is more comparable Gears of War on PC.

As far as graphics tech, Crysis is miles ahead of KZ2.

[air1]

dont argue with him panda all he knows is kz2, and pics of crysis. kz2 is a black and white game with a hint of red. lol

[Double Toasted]

bullshit...I know the prices;)

[SaberEdge]

Killzone 2 is an amazing game with amazing graphics, so I am not going to disagree with you there. But let's be honest, the 360 version of Alan Wake would look pretty much like the PC version, just like most PC/360 games. The main difference is you can get better frame rates, more anti-aliasing and more resolution on the PC, assuming you have the hardware to support it.

[BX81]

Here is what I like. No 360 game comes close to looking like KZ2=not worth playing? So what you want the entire gaming community to believe is that KZ2 and Uncharted are the only games worth playing on the PS3 since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't look like them? Canadian420!!!! Wow Keep smoking it's allowing your brain to fully function.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Alan wait is worse because it's not a has been. It's a never was.

[rawd]

hahaha he does

[TheMART]

Must be those hordes of PS3 fnadroids that said they were gonna play Alan Wake on their underpowered PC's. Too bad, too bad.

MS got you in with their great strategy. First playing Fable 1, Gears 1 and Halo 2 on your PC and then bam, the sequels are 360 exclusive. That was stage one. And now they pull the PC versions of games you really wanted to play and make them 360 exclusive.

Slowly the net is closing and you just have to buy a 360 to play the games, no possibility to draw the 'I play it on PC card' anymore

[air1]

bu bu but

what will i do with my super rig now?????

:(.....

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

are you really that retarded ? what do PS3 owners got to do with this don't you ever stop to think that there are PC gamers and the are upset that Alan Wake was stopped for PC god your really retarded

[xtkxCracktheSkye]

"Must be those hordes of PS3 fnadroids that said they were gonna play Alan Wake on their underpowered PC's. Too bad, too bad."

Too bad I can play Crysis on High at 30 FPS on my "underpowered" PC that cost around 300.00. Therefore, and I could play any 360 game that happened to be on the PC, at a similar price. Alan Wake is ONE exception you have been lucky to brag about.

I can't believe some idiots are trying to defend 360, when this year sucks so bad for the thing. (No need to name off the games, I'm fully aware of what is to come for the system, it's pathetic) Sorry that Splinter Cell was delayed.

[air1]

bu bu but the graphics in kz2 are AMAZING..

to bad everything else about it sucks....
edit
they gave it a 91 cause every one got scared that the sony fanatics would get mad and petition them too...

zombieman to the rescue... whats up bumpy, why you changed your number? we both know you used valtrex more than once.lol

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

KZ2 metacritic 91. yeah 91 means it's crap

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

first what the hell is valtrex second do you ever stop and read your own comments god there like you live in your own fanboy world man i feel srry for your family and friends that have to put up with your sh!t really do you believe your own words it's as dumb if PS3 owners said MS paid for Conviction to be exclusive

[Campy da Camper]

If what you say is true, I commend you for being a supporter of devs. Most people just burn the game and start playing. Nice to know others out there are honest. I pay for every single game I play. Same for music. Piracy just makes costs go up for the bloke who works for a living and does right by his fellow man.

cheers.

[Pandamobile]

I'm not the only one that does this. I'd say at least 60% of people that pirate games and actually like them will go out and buy them.

A lot of devs just cry piracy when they don't get the sales they expected.

And if more devs learned from Valve's model, there would be a lot less piracy in the first place.

[SaberEdge]

I disagree. Most of the people I know that pirate never buy the games they pirate. Their attitude is, 'why pay for something I can get for free'. I think you are giving people far more credit than they deserve. Most people are selfish and believe that they really aren't hurting developers that bad anyway. Piracy is wrong, plain and simple.

[Pandamobile]

Well, the people you talk to are bastards.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

MS I hate the 360 because you don't have any exclusives.. HAHAHA the 360 has no exclusives...

Now it's..

MS why are you making exclusives!!??!!! How dare you make exclusives for the 360 when the system is constantly bashed for not having exclusives.

Where was all the whining from 360 fans when The Witcher was canceled for the 360 but came out on PC?

I hope Remedy and MS do not cave in because I agree the 360 needs exclusives. If you can afford a new graphics card every 6 months $199 should be a drop in the bucket for you if you really want to play the game.

Just my take on it.

[mastiffchild]

You can't compare The Wircher being dropped for PS3 and 360 to this though can you? AW has been one of the most talked about games of the past few years and the Witcher just wasn't-and even then people were annoyed. Imagine if you'd already upgraded your PC to a level where you could have AW on max settings(I could and haven't, nor have I ever had to upgrade every 6 months)-wouldn't you want to be able to play the game you'd seen plenty of as a PC game over the past five yours or whatever?

$199 for one game is amazingly expensive, no?

EDIT: and as I said above I've no problems with MS getting more exclusives for the 360(that's fine and needed for any console)but they and Remedy should have done it a long time ago to avoid this kind of thing as people are RIGHT to be annoyed just as PS360 gamers had the right over The Wircher-though why they would does mystufy me I'll admit.

[mcgrawgamer]

I've always had a problem buying a system for one game. I will say it's kinda bitter sweet for me. I won't lose any sleep over AW but I did want the opportunity to play the game on my pc now when the time comes and when the funds are right I'll get the 360 version that's the bitter part for me. The sweet part is all the sony loyalist bashing the 360 for no exclusives and the minute they (MSFT) starts taking a stand giving em what they ask for; they got a problem with it. fable 2, gears 2 probably would have been on the pc had soooo many ps3 loyalist not bashed MSFT for the 360 lack of 360 only titles then make crazy claims about how they will pirate a copy of said games and play them on their pirated copies of xp/vista. Just like sony I'm sure MSFT has a team of people in these forums probably a few in hear as we speak who research this kind of stuff and took it back and made a suggestion that MSFT take a step back from pc gaming to see if they could sway some of those ps3 loyalist to get a 360. At this point every gamer should know how hungry MSFT is to beat Sony this gen.

not all, but most got what they asked for. the bad part about it is legitimate pc/ps3 gamers like myself have to suffer cuz a few gamers who grew up on playstation won't accept anything but the playstation brand. it's one to support but it's another thing to accept.

[Tony P]

@GEC:

Upgrade every six months? I take it you've never been a PC gamer.

"Where was all the whining from 360 fans when The Witcher was canceled for the 360 but came out on PC?"

It's not the same thing. Remedy is well-known for supporting the PC (though not exclusively). CD Projekt's only game is The Witcher. There's no hype there and no reputation. It would be more like if Bungie decided their next game would be PC exclusive...only after previously announcing it on 360, hyping 360 specific benefits, and running the game on console at a convention.

But hey, I think the petition is stupid. Besides the uselessness of net petitions in general, the game is most likely now a time-exclusive so all the bitterness won't matter after a while.

What I don't get is why console owners think PC gamers shouldn't be angry when they are essentially mislead.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You are correct, I am not a PC gamer and that was more sarcasm than anything.

The Witcher was previewed and started the hype train and it was, I think, as anticipated on the 360 as AW was on the PC. I know I was looking forward to it.

I honestly believe the game will still come to the PC just at a later date. I do agree, to market the game as both a PC/360 title and then put off the PC version is a slap to PC gamers.

I hope MS learn from this and try and keep the platform announcements on track and not change them 3 years after announcing it.

+bubs to you guys. love the civil debate!

[Saaking]

I don't Mind MS making more true 360 exclusives but if they said Alan Wake was coming to 360/PC then it SHOULD come out as they said. Otherwise they should have just said it was 360 exclusive instead of hyping it as one of the best looking PC games.

[Saaking]

MS downgrading games since 2006.

[asyouburn]

the game is built on pc, so somewhere in remedy's offices is a pc version of the game getting c0ckblocked

[iceman06]

The coding for the PC and 360 are not altogether different. Therefore it wouldn't be that much, in terms of monetary resources, to have both. Maybe, they have decided that they need there devs to concentrate solely on 360 (after all of the dev changes) to meet their quality expectations upon release??? Just a thought.

[jackdoe]

Meh. PC users will just pirate anyway, citing "obtrusive DRM measures".

-edit-
Oh yeah, PC users just love DRM right? That must be why they gave Fallout 3 on the PC only 3 freaking stars on Amazon? That must be why my positive review of Fallout 3 PC got downvoted on Amazon?

[Pandamobile]

DRM doesn't matter if it's a good game.

Just look at Valve. Valve games use Steam as a DRM and look how they sell. Half-Life 2 sold 16 million copies. Counter Strike: Source sold like 5 or 6 million. Orange Box was 4-5 Million. Left 4 Dead sold 2-3 million. And so on. As long as the games are good people will buy them, and it won't hurt the sales of the game.

[jackdoe]

PC Gamers tend to let Valve slide, but blasted Bethesda for their DRM in Fallout 3. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONLY A CD CHECK.

Hell, I'm personally fine with Steam as I don't have to use CDs for my Valve games, but you can't have that kind of double standard.

[xg-ei8ht]

Raiinstorm81

Trouble is, everytime but the last you've seen alan wake running, it's been on PC.

So many PC owners accepted it was coming to PC either after or at the same time as 360.

M$ has done this, so more people buy a 360.

If you can't see that, your blind.

[DeathMetal]

all i have read about is how it will take advantage of quad cores ect and now it does not come out, that sucks

[dirthurts]

Promising killer pc performance then dumping the pc version is not cool at all. Gaming started on pc, it should end on pc.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I WANT THIS GAME!!!

[Blu Ray3]

and play the game.............duh.

[aaron5829]

Guess not.

Duh

[SuperStrokey1123]

@ aaron5829

Its not borrow its lend... seriously

[cyberwaffles]

kind of sucks but atleast i got a used 360 again. just in time for these games that are looking pretty sweet. still would've liked this for PC but something tells me this will be better on a big screen tv in a dark room with surround sound, etc

[Modestmex]

oh well sucks for me was getting interested in this game. PC FTW!! and now i wait for some pc exclusive game.

[kewlkat007]

.....problems solved and is cheaper in the long run...

or else your out of luck.

Every year we hear, "I would only get the Xbox 360 for 1/2 games" though getting a console for one game is stupid , I've heard this like 3 years now, so it's more than 1 game now.

Unless it's those just wanting to pretend they are hardcore PC gamers and confess their PC purchases of MS's console exclusive games.

[mebob]

I don't see how it can be cheaper in the "long" run. PC games tend to be cheaper and get discounted faster than a console version. And if you use steam you can get the games even cheaper!!

Why should PC gamers buy a inferior console just to play 1 game? i don't see how that will solve anything except maby a lighter wallet....

[XDF]

I will be getting ALan Wake on my X360. Thank you very much.

Along with Mass Effct 2, Crackdown 2, Mech Warrior 4, Halo Reach, Splinter Cell Conviction, Gears of War 3 and Natal releases in 2010.

[Nikuma]

..for letting us know what games you're buying this year. I'm sure we all care very much. Thank you very much.

[tripewire]

i dont understand the hype for this.

Each to their own.

[Phoenix43]

It would be better on PC (of course)

[devilhunterx]

*cough*Gears, Halo, Fable*cough*

[SuperStrokey1123]

Why would they want this anyways, the game looks terrible so far. Lame story, lame gameplay, and meh graphics (on the 360 atleast)... Its just not a good game.

[orange-skittle]

"F#CK YOU! YOU PIRACY RIDDEN MUTHAF#CKAS DON'T SUPPORT SOFTWARE ANYWAY AND HAVE NO LEGS TO STAND ON TO MAKE ANY DEMANDS"

Who cares if people have been waiting for this and all of sudden they put it on hold. That's the game industry you f*ckin' nerds. How long have people been waiting for vaporware like Duke Nukem Forever? People would go nuts if 1 gaming platform got it instead of NONE. Bunch of f*ckin' whiners that can't get their way. I know they are laughing at your petition right now.

As for RAINSTORM saying that Microsoft is up to this, please find another excuse that hasn't been played out already by PS3 fans. That is getting really old. I am sure that the reason RAGE plays faster on the 360 than the PS3 was Microsoft's doing as well? Why don't you petition id software too since you're on a roll.

[Poopface the 2nd]

usually everyone is saying 360 has no exclusives and that they will just get it on PC. Now thay cant use taht excuse so they start a petition.

I didnt realize there were so many PC gamers on this site. Usually when I look in a PC story there might be like 2 comments. Im sure that there were people who would like to play it on PC, but its just one game right.

From now on when a 360 game shows up on PC please dont attack the 360. Ill just point out this situation and how hard everyone was crying. It seems everyone just wants to condemn microsoft no matter how they handle PC/360 games. Yes they have bigger reasons to support PC gaming than anyone.

If still think Microsoft is one of the few responsible for trying to keep PC gaming afloat. Microsoft has been using 360 and windows games to help each other and got nothing but flak. now they say screw it, and get more flak.

[taylork37]

HAHA your petition is similar to arguing on forums... it make make you feel better, but it doesn't accomplish a thing.

This isn't like L4D2 where the future PC version buyers can directly affect the sales of the game. Since you do not have the choice to buy the game, the effect of the petition is laughable at best.

It would be dumb to think that the makers of Alan Wake do not know that a lot of PC Gamers want to play this on PC, so how would an online petition change their minds?

Get real you whiny little children.