I know. Ive heard millions of predictions before and this one is just as useless becuase nobody knows what will happen! Ask someone if back in 2005 what would happen and they would have replaced the ps3 for the wii.
how many times have we all seen "PS3 to overtake 360 in [insert year here]"???
don't get me wrong, i love my PS3 more than my 360, but i just don't see it happening. and if it did, by the time it did, it wouldn't even matter because this gen would be basically over with.
honestly, i see the gap between them closing, but neither is going to be significantly on top.
I know it's probably not possible, but what are you guys gonna say if it actually happens?
We don't know what kind of effect a PS3 price cut + Slim announcement will have, which means anythings possible. Also MS cut the price in August last year, they managed to win the year overall, Sony could EASILY do the same, they already are tracking pretty much on par with the 360, at DOUBLE the price point.
Not that console sales matter to real gamers but I don't see it happening. The truth is that the 360 will be relaunching itself with Natal and aiming at the huge casual market that made the Wii number 1 in sales. The market size aimed for combined with Microsoft's advertising power, is sure to give them a boost next year so that even if the PS3 were to have a price cut there is no way they could close the one year headstart. Without Natal it would have a been a slim possibility, with Natal in play, no chance.
We know multiple consoles is the reason for the "7 million lead" (and 1 year headstart). When even 20% of PS3 owners buy a slim (paired with demand for a $299 PS3), 360 is THIRD!
Really not sure how people get to post crap here. There is no basis for this analysis. Fact: PS3 will not get a price drop this holiday season. 1. Execs stated it. 2. Current losses in company will not permit them to do so. They need to show a profit and with current economic situations it would be risky to take a loss when numbers aren’t too far away from competition. So expect sales to stay sales in contrast to the two consoles to stay about the same with 360 taking a slight edge of the PS3 this holiday season. That brings us to 2010 in which Sony will have to sale 6 million consoles above whatever the 360 sales, to overtake the 360. PS3 will have to get the sales numbers of the Wii and we know both consoles have not been able to do that this generation. Microsoft would have a good chance with the way they are marketing Project Natal. However all that can change if it comes out and is a flap. There really just is no basis for what the loons are predicting.
Next article in 6 months will push it back to 2012... who cares. Every multiplatform game is better on 360 that I DO care. Ghostbusters was the latest and I know alot of people developing games and all these articles about ps3 is equal is politics. if you ask a developer he will tell you xbox 360 does better results and ps3 CAN be equal but require A LOT of work. This is from guys at every major studio. My sister is Ubi, friend is activision (senior programmer) and another EA (senior programmer as well).
Will somebody please STOP all these FLAME BAITING articles? Cuz that all these articles do. Get fanboys riled up!! and start arguing about this a that!!!
At first the attach rate was stronger for the PS3, showing stronger sales worldwide, not america and with time the sales have gone down because mostly people are awaiting a price cut and or games like God of War III to hit the market. So if the PS3's price is eventually dropped we'll see stronger sales.
'Since being launched in November 2006 (March 2007 in Europe), the PS3 has tallied 24.6 million units according to Sony's latest fiscal report, whereas Microsoft has sold 30.2 million Xbox 360s since its launch in November 2005.'
One console realeased first.
Oh and btw
'Sony has been selling PS3s at a faster rate than Microsoft has Xbox 360s.'
The data seems very good, not great but it does seem logical... but I am going to say this now.
I couldn't care less, I my PS3 will not become more fun if it outsells the 360 and nor will my 360 become less fun if it happens. I enjoy my 360, off to play live on the free weekend.
The 360 has been out for a year more than the PS3 so divide 24 mill by 2.5 and 30 mill by 3.5 and there you go. But these figures shouldn't matter, you shouldn't base your prejudice upon how well a product does in the market if anything it should be directed towards poor hardware or a poor software selection i.e games or apps, but since both consoles have good hardware (360's RROD's have mostly been ironed out, but technically speaking its not far off the PS3), and both consoles have good games and apps (PS3 has caught up significantly in the games and apps department). But the main issue comes down to money and value for your dollar and since both consoles offer a good bang for your buck. Base your decision on what games appeal to you and what your friends own (and if your up for paying a monthly fee), but if you have the money BUY BOTH!!!
During 2007, Microsoft quit reporting 360 sales numbers on their fiscal updates for two quarters as they were half what they were in 2006. In 2008, for the first six months of the year the 360 was being badly outsold worldwide, but no one predicted that we'd see an economic downturn this bad, or that slower consumers spending would through a wrench into everything.
I see many jamming the disagree button. Not sure what you're disagreeing with. Everything I said is true, so is it that you just disagree that someone should dare speak the truth, or am I wrong somehow that I'm not aware of.
No one will ever know unless you speak up and be heard.
The trolls are out in full force to try to spin this...yet they accuse us "PS3 fanboys" (because, you know, anyone who so much as OWNS a PS3 or doesn't slam it every chance they get is a PS3 fanboy to them) of spinning the BAD Sony news. Pot calling the kettle black.
Apparently the numbers are fake only when THEY say so. Not to mention that their main weapon of attack just got crushed.
That and it's saying the same thing we've been saying on this site for MONTHS now.
what your missing is that the last 6 months of 2008 ps3 was outsold badly by 360. so what is your point then that the first 6 months of a year only matter.
it wasn't the economy it was that xbox drop it's price. so what other bull you got to spin.
if sony dropped price it would be most likely in there favor but given they are losing money and xbox 360 is making money, I don't see this happening.
ps3 was hurting really bad in 2006 until they cut price and took out Backwards compatibility.
DARK POWER- your going to love my nuts.
the point is the ps3 will not pass the 360 b/c sony knows as soon as they drop price, xbox is making money and can afford to do so as well. from launch sony has not caught up or been outsold so this means they are relatively selling at the same pace. sony needs to get there profits some time, so no price cut. it's been back and forth so why don't we agree that they are splitting sales.
That article is a rumor and not comfirmed, Rumor: PS3's Manufacturing Costs Down 70% From Launch. thats what the artice states from it's origin at vgchartz.
(The Networked Products unit which includes Sony’s PlayStation game machines, Vaio computers and Walkman media players, posted a 39.7 billion yen loss)
"what your missing is that the last 6 months of 2008 ps3 was outsold badly by 360"
The 360 also had a price cut right when the recession started (that was also when we first heard and Fannie/Freddie Mac), which was the latter part of that year, and many were buying the Arcade version that was priced below the Wii, even (EDIT: This point wasn't there in your post until after I posted this).
Not to mention that you might want to take off half of those 360s sold from those buying two or three of them from the hardware troubles. Somehow, no one seems to really care about THAT point.
Funny that you completely ignore ALL of that.
EDIT: "if sony dropped price it would be most likely in there favor but given they are losing money and xbox 360 is making money, I don't see this happening."
I think it's MICROSOFT that won't be able to afford a price cut right now. They need to make up for the losses somehow.
"That article is a rumor and not comfirmed, Rumor: PS3's Manufacturing Costs Down 70% From Launch. thats what the artice states from it's origin at vgchartz."
You're trusting vgchartz, when TVG CONTACTED Sony and got the "roughly 70%" figure out of them? And after all that, you STILL consider it a rumor? A lot of more viable, creditable news sources reported it as fact. Should tell you something.
"why did sony loss 390 million dollars then."
You're equating two completely different things here. It costs them LESS now to make a PS3, but people are not buying because the MSRP is too high (which is where all these calls for a price cut are coming from). Plus, it's not like any other business is doing all that well, either.
But if the cost of MAKING a PS3 went down, then they can sell it for less, gain more marketshare and profit, and get some more money to offset that. See how that works?
xbox 360 is making money, zune and other hardware is where the loses come in. M$ has a lot that they can expend, sony does not.
Believe M$ is about competition, look at the hit they took on the first xbox to discard and a make a new one. any other company would have said game over.
point still being sony is loseing money on every playstation sold. the rumor you put up is only a rumor and not confirmed. we all know ps3 fans love to spin and make up things to make there system look good, same goes for xbox but I'm not using rumors to state my case.
don't get your hopes high, ps3 will not outsell xbox. It is to late in the console war. on top of that you got the newest and best tech coming to the xbox, which is project natal. ]]
this will make the sales turn in xbox favor when it releases.
Also we should note sony had a way better line up this year that should have made it sell a lot better. This has made a difference but not to outsell 360.
Poor droids have been saying this every year and it start it with MS leading with 4.5 million before the PS3 came out and 3 years after the 360 its leading with 9 Millions. End result the sales of the 360 doubled as of today.
When will the PS3 catch up? Never, but delusional fandroids are everywhere.
Why would anyone want to buy a black garbage truck without wheels its pathetic, but thats how loosers normally take action, by buying garbage and adding more to it. PSP anyone?
@Kill crow 3.5 your numbers are wrong PS3 have 23.4 shipped and half of those are in wal-mart storage, while the 360 has shipped 32.3 Million and Wal-mart and many other retailers are waiting for shipment to come in because they ran out of 360's.
PS3 will overtaken 360 for sure!!!!! It's a matter of time...
But hey in 2010 they will rush out with XBOX720 and then they will say 360 already won this gen... so Pathetic...
PS3 is here to stay for another 8 years so this could be very funny if xbox720 will come out in 2010 xmass... PS3 will outsell the 360 and 720 COMBINED!!!!
360 is your average hoe on the street, affordable, gives enough pleasure... also has the chance to give u a disease *COUGH* RROD... The ps3 is the women you meet and instantly fall in love with, great person, great sex, harder to manage at times but its what you really want. and best no disease risk really. I just like making that analogy lol dont hate on me... considering i have both the 360 and the ps3... could care less what u say lmao. also i got the wii... collecting purposes....
Ok i didnt exactly buy it but it came with a phone contract Jasper model. Point is i got it, no games yet though :/ Bought a PS3 60GB at launch, when i opened my ps3 there was just a lot of technical hoohaa that i could not be assed to read. Opened the 360 Yesterday and Xbox actually made me feel welcome to their family. Like i belonged. Whilst i have enjoyed my ps3 I actually feel more of an Xbox fan than a Sony fan now that i own it, purely because Microsoft are actually the mainstream family console. Therefore, i really cant see Sony overtaking them, especially in these Tough Times
"purely because Microsoft are actually the mainstream family console."
1. Microsoft is not a console, Xbox 360 is a console 2. The Nintendo Wii is actually the mainstream family console..which is why it rapes everything in sales. 3. Wtf? 4. Were you serious?
and 2007, and 2008, and 2009 and 2010!!! COME ON GET OVER IT!!! If the PS3 passes the 360, than make a story. You're wasting my web space with your predictions houdini!
how is taht flamebait? its the truth. Every year since 2006 has been forshadowed to be "the year of the ps3." In reality, none of those years have been even close to the "year of the PS3."
I WANT YOU ALL TO REMEMBER TAHT i TOLD YOU THIS FIRST.
2012--- YEAR OF THE PS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!1
Remember that before the xbox360's price cut the PS3 was outselling the xbox360. People are going to go for the console they see on Tv and the cheapest one, thats the xbox360.
15 disagrees? That must be 15 people that don't own a PS3 and are a little brainwashed into thinking the 360 is a better console or it's 15, 15 year olds. I went through 3 360's and I could care less about what that system has to offer now as far as games or " experience ". Defining games are now being released on the PS3 where as MS's system isn't really doing any thing noteworthy in " my eyes ". But in the end when Madden comes out I'm sure all you 360 clones will say it runs better than the PS3 version.
Really, what does the Xbox 360 have coming out this year??? Okay, Halo ODST which of course will sell millions, and why? The word HALO in the title, which is one of Microsoft's only trump cards. Does everyone know the premise to the campaign? You're separated from your squad and have to battle back to them alone. I thought it was going to be something different, maybe squad based, kind of like a Call of Duty / Halo hybrid, but unfortunately I'm wrong and it's proving to be more of the same. Hell, the Halo fans are in for an even bigger surprise when they discover that it has the SAME competitive multiplayer as Halo 3 with the exception of a few extra maps. Does that warrant a $60 game? Not in my opinion but I'm sure tons of people will blindly spend their hard earned cash on it. Just look at Halo Wars and it's deceptive marketing campaign, not once during any commercial does it illustrate that it's an RTS. It only shows bad-ass CG animations.
Wait, we can't forget about Microsoft's other exclusive, "Shadow Complex", Epic's HUGE anouncement at E3. Too bad it's only an ARCADE GAME.
What's on Sony's plate for the 2009-2010 fiscal year? Well, MAG for starters. Oh yeah, there's also Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2, and last but certainly not least, GOD OF WAR 3.
So, let's summarize, what's Microsoft bringing to the table in 2009? A tired rehash of a whored out brand and a glorified arcade game.
What's Sony dishing out? Well, two original IP's; an explosive sequel to one of the best games of last year, Uncharted; the long awaited, meticulously polished Gran Turismo 5; and the game that will be as legendary as it's main character, GOD OF WAR 3.
Disagree? Then reply and tell me why, I'm eager to know.
did it take the SNES to overtake the Genesis when the Genesis released a year+ earlier?
For PS3 to overtake the 360, the 360 needs to just stop selling. Period! Maybe by 2011 it will overtake it. Actually by 2011 I am expecting it to overtake the 360 because by then there will probably be a next gen xbox. 5-6 year console generation cycles are ok for the competition but not for Sony.
Haha who is TVG. Heard this one before.
07-08-09-10-11? See a pattern here.
maybe. maybe not.
only the future shall tell.
we fight about the past all the time .
I dont think we're willing to fight over things that will occur 2years from now.
right?
Maybe in 2012? oh wait! D:
"the PS3 has tallied 24.6 million units
Microsoft has sold 30.2 million"
What an epic fail even before they get to their predictions