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Being innovative in the console industry: who wins?

Too many articles nowadays are focusing on controls, there are a massive amount of articles especially about Natal lately. Controls is just one thing were console producers have been innovative this gen. In this article Xboxkings points out what the innovations have been this gen, what is planned and what according to XBK will be the next evolutionary or… Revolutionary innovation. Xboxkings mentions innovations on three area's: hardware, online and controls. Besides that XBK specifies which company according to them holds the best cards to fulfill these possible future innovations.

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TheMART5800d ago

And I can't wait to get Natal and see what innovative stuff the competition brings in to heat up the console race this gen...

I don't know though if I will get a Wii 2.0/Wii HD... I bought the Wii to softmod and run emulators for old consoles, but would I really want Mario HD enough to buy another Nintendo machine during this lifecycle around 2010?

ultimolu5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

Your article is f*cking flamebait Mart. I don't care which way you spin it.

EDIT: And you're a 360 fanatic who bought a PS3 and likes to pretend that he's neutral where both consoles are concerned. It has nothing to do with the fact I'm a PS3 fan or not. This is flamebait. You can use your multiple accounts to slam disagrees like a child but it doesn't change anything.

Admit you hate the PS3 and sell the f*cking console already.

TheMART5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

@ Juuken aka Ultimolu

I wouldn't expect anything else from a PS3 only fangirl...

If you would actually read the thing, you would see its pretty much all facts, even giving props to the PS3 for winning in the hardware section.

You think every small negative point about the PS3 would be flamebait. Only if its 100% PS3 positive its not flamebait in your eyes. Pretty pathetic.

EDIT

Well at least I own the stuff I am talking about. You don't own a 360 and you're slamming it for nothing. Just because you don't own it and need to fangirl support the PS3. And yes, I am neutral if it comes to consoles. I've been a Nintendo fanboy back in the days, Sega fanboy, Playstation fanboy (indeed with the PS1). Every gen I pick my favorite and if things are done right I back up the brand a lot.

I won't sell the PS3 as I never sell any of my consoles I own. I also own the Wii, go read up the article actually its slammed harder then the PS3 is. The PS3 gets some props where they need to be given.

But you're blind. Same as with the multiple account stuff. If anyone owns them it'll be you seen your bans at PSN forums and on Gamespot...

ultimolu5800d ago

Why would I want to own a 360 now? NG2 is coming to the PS3, Tales of Vesperia is coming to the PS3, Eternal Sonata came to the PS3...all of the games I wanted for the 360 are coming to the PS3. And if I wanted Mass Effect I can play that on the PC.

I'm slamming for nothing? You're slamming the PS3 and Sony for no apparent reason.

Grow the hell up.

YOUR ARTICLE WAS FLAMEBAIT.

air15800d ago

@ ultimolu

who said ng2 is coming to the ps3? last i checked it was just another rehash from the original xbox.

why would you get a 360? other then its 200 bucks? or because you are a so called gamer? you dont have to pretend that the 360 has nothing to play. dont be scared, you been through the worse drought ever when it comes to games, im talking about the ps3 launch they had no AAA games for almost 2 year (mgs4) you spent 600 bucks lived through that i think you will be just fine through the holiday till alan wake mass effect 2 etc...

oh and multiplats are better but i know sony fanatics only buy exclusives its just sad that numbers dont say the same thing..

TheMART5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

"Why would I want to own a 360 now? NG2 is coming to the PS3, Tales of Vesperia is coming to the PS3, Eternal Sonata came to the PS3...all of the games I wanted for the 360 are coming to the PS3. And if I wanted Mass Effect I can play that on the PC."

You're finally reveiled your true colours there. Because when these games weren't announced for the PS3, you still were slamming the 360, not intending to buy it at all.

There is more then those games you mention, but it typically shows what a fangirl you are. Anyhow, you enjoy your limited view on games. I got to play all 360 games, all Wii games, all PS3 games that are worth playing.

YOUR POSTS ARE FLAMEBAIT!

You only post inhere because you have this "I am a tough fangirl and I want to annoy other gamers" attitude. Well girl, you fail. Pathetic PS3 only gamer you are.

EDIT

and since its my last bubble:

@ Greywulf in Gamerzone

"Everyone knows Mart is a Xbox360 fanboy, who had no choice but to buy a PS3 to play second to none games. Stop pretending XBK is some professional site(a simple spell/grammar check will prove otherwise).

MS copies everything from Sony/Nintendo, pretty much just like MS copies from every business out: "

Hahaha wrong. I only bought the PS3 for playing LittleBigPlanet. Nothing else worth playing in my view. The rest is much more fun on the 360. So you're totally wrong.

MS copies everything?

Wait a sec... PSN is 100% cloned from XBL. The Wand is 100% copied from the Wiimote. What did Sony innovate this gen that isn't stolen from the others?

EDIT 2

Juuken... 360 unreliable? Funny the PS3 SDF are still talking about the launch consoles and fail to see that Jasper 360's are out. My PS3's bluray died after 3 weeks. I hear many people getting dead BluRay diodes. It seems the PS3's are more unreliable lately then the 360 is.

"I wanted to get a reaction out of 360 fanboys, to let them see how it felt to have their favorite console bashed. And lo and behold, they didn't like that at all.

Thank you, you gave me the reaction I wanted. "

Ah you just like to give yourself a pat on the back now do you? You're even more pathetic then I already thought and you've just proven it again.

ultimolu5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

Mart: And you slam the PS3. The 360 is unreliable hardware. That is why I do not own one as well. What's the use of owning a 360 when the games I wanted are coming to the PS3? I only bashed the 360 because you 360 fanatics would not stop bashing the PS3. Every PS3 game that came out, you attacked the sales. 360 fanatics have never sat down and actually played a PS3 game without talking sh*t. At least I have played on a 360 before.

I wanted to get a reaction out of 360 fanboys, to let them see how it felt to have their favorite console bashed. And lo and behold, they didn't like that at all.

Thank you, you gave me the reaction I wanted.

air1: Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 isn't a rehash of the second game on the 360. It's a brand new remake with multiplayer, new characters, new bosses, new weapons, and new stages.

I would like to thank Tecmo for making my wish come true, that I finally get to play a game like NG2 on my PS3.

EDIT 2: "Juuken... 360 unreliable? Funny the PS3 SDF are still talking about the launch consoles and fail to see that Jasper 360's are out. My PS3's bluray died after 3 weeks. I hear many people getting dead BluRay diodes. It seems the PS3's are more unreliable lately then the 360 is."

The 360 should have been reliable FROM the beginning. There is no reason why anyone should be afraid of buying a 360 to begin with. Instead of criticizing Microsoft for this action, you chose to gang up on Sony like a bully who picks on the little kids. Sony may have made mistakes but so did Microsoft.

Get over it.

And you, my friend are a jackass. The PS3 is more reliable than the 360. It's only that one in a blue moon they do break. Some people are unlucky. In your case, you were unlucky. Don't mistaken a few unlucky cases in order to blow the PS3 failure rate out of proportion.

It makes you look PATHETIC.

I've had my PS3 for two years going on three. The only thing I cannot stand about it is that it's a dust magnet. Other than that it's a great console.

"Ah you just like to give yourself a pat on the back now do you? You're even more pathetic then I already thought and you've just proven it again."

Says the fanboy who posted my PSN in the Openzone and stalked my information on google.

Keep feeding me 360 fanboys. You're getting a taste of your own medicine. Keep arguing with me Mart. You're just going to get owned over and over AND over again.

YOUR ARTICLE WAS FLAMEBAIT!

Gun_Senshi5800d ago

NOT, Kindly know the difference between innovate and improving on what exsist

xztence5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

You mustve been really bored Mart, what happened, you got the rrod?
You think just because you have all 3 system you are almighty and can give out your opinion/flamebait as "facts".
You call Juuken a fangirl but infact you are one of the biggest 360 trolls on n4g. also before you call sony a copycat you should take a look at your beloved M$ first, because your precious natal tech was done ages ago with the eyetoy.

I'm going to go out and say this without holding back,

There are enough reasons to now own MS's pathetic junk of what they call "hardware", They might have improved it with jasper but its too late now. they lost me back when every single guy I knew had an rrod.
I used to tease my friend every time he turned on his xbox saying "who turned on the vaccumcleaner" haha, damn that thing was noisy.
ps3's just has so much more, when I buy a console I dont want the same outdated stuff "aka dvd".
I actually thought by buying the ps3, the games would always have extra content because of the space by blu ray, but that also got destroyed because of MS using piece of sh*t hardware.
As for games, why would I want to have a console who's games are dvd9 sized when you can have 50 gigs games? no need to disk swap either. and look at the lineup of 360 in 2009. its nothing compared to ps3, same will happen in 2010, not to mention you can play most of the 360 games on pc too.

Again there is absolutely NO good enough reason to buy a 360 if you have a ps3 and a reasonable pc, yes reasonable, not hyper powered like you bots say.

So there you have my reasons for NOT owning MS's console.

xztence5800d ago

There are enough reasons not to own*

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a_squirrel5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

WTF?

'Sony went into copy mode and made the wand'
Sony said that they've been working on the wands ever since they started eyetoy

'The less hassle with any TV makes the ANA chip a true great innovation on the 360.'
Yeah right, I'm playing halo with another buddy, the screen isn't even entirely used (making stuff messed) until I switch to 1 person, or 4 people playing (resolution is the 1650 or so thingy)

'Besides that NXE brings avatars, not liked and loved by everyone at first, but then again accepted in the end. Its that bit of personalization that the more casual gamer likes. Somewhat copied from the Mii’s on the Wii, but improved and taken one step further to actually let them play in games like 1 vs 100. Besides the visuals and the way you control the dash, also in functions its lightyears ahead. Including online features on Xbox Live.'
Yes, of COURSE (sarcasm being used) the dashboard is lightyears ahead,(sacasm ended)even though sony perfected the XMB already, so there wasn't anything to improve, oh, and the themes are free (except premium)

'Its almost 3 years since the launch of PSN and still the basic features aren’t done.'
Riiiight.... it's only missing 2 features

'Their overall strategy just goes all over the place, investing in stuff that differs too much.'
That's why I like it, variety.

'Natal will be backwards compatible with any game that receives a patch'
Have you heard of firmware updates?

'But games alone don’t make the total experience Sony.'
So if a console like a ps3 came out with almost no games, but loads of features, wireless, bluetooth, blablah, everyone would still buy it? Hell no, they'd go for the 360 or wii unless they want the best, and/or bluray

Johnny Rotten5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

I wouldn't be too upset by this, the site's run buy TheMart... you know the guy stuck in the open zone.

As of today his site's worth $47.
http://www.mywebsiteworth.c...

@ below: sure thing boss.

ultimolu5800d ago

Lol, this screams flamebait.

Greywulf5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

@ PeeJee,

Everyone knows Mart is a Xbox360 fanboy, who had no choice but to buy a PS3 to play second to none games. Stop pretending XBK is some professional site(a simple spell/grammar check will prove otherwise).

MS copies everything from Sony/Nintendo, pretty much just like MS copies from every business out:

"Years ago in the pre-Internet era, AOL was the talk of the town, so Microsoft had to copy it with MSN. No money was made; no strategic advantage was gained.

Netscape was the rage for a while, so Microsoft threw together a browser and got in that business. The browser was given away for free. No money was made; the strategy got the company in trouble with government trustbusters.

During the early days of the Internet, new online publications appeared. Microsoft decided to become a publisher too, rolling out a slew of online properties including a computer magazine and a women's magazine. They were all folded.

Computer books became popular; Microsoft began Microsoft Press. After an early splash and success, the company soon lost interest and the division now languishes.

Teddy Ruxpin became a hot toy. Microsoft rolled out a couple of robotic plush toys, including the creepy Barney the Dinosaur who sang "I love you and you love me." The company soon lost interest and dropped the whole thing.

AOL-TV appeared, along with other device-centric TV-delivery mechanisms in the 1990s. Microsoft created a Microsoft-TV division as well as a device. It soon lost interest.

Adobe Photoshop became a huge success, so Microsoft hired Alvy Ray Smith to develop photo-editing software. Smith quit when the company lost interest in the idea.

Yahoo and Google showed that a search engine could be a money maker, so Microsoft copied that idea; it now has Bing.

Cloud applications are currently trendy, along with notions about software as a service. Microsoft decides to go into that business.

The Apple rolled out a MP3 player, the iPod. Microsoft came up with its own MP3 player, the Zune. The company also says it wants to stream music.

This is a company that began making development tools for programmers, beginning with a programming language. Does anyone see a pattern here?"

Mart clearly doesn't use HOME, im sure. Else he would have played Buzz or any HOME GAME that allows up to 64 people to play arcade games. I mean what is the point here? Mart doesn't like Sony, neither does XBK. No sense responding, but I just love how people live in denial. MS copies companies, and they do it for a living. Unlike Sony. Competing with the clear direction of the market is natural. Kodak should have went all digital, dont just stick to the polaroid. Consoles needed HDD's, and consoles Needed online play. Those are the only contributions that Microsoft has made to the gaming world.

The hardware is a joke, it has shown no examples that it can run gaming engines that compete with killzone2/Gran Turismo Prologue/Uncharted/Ratchet& ;amp ;Clank, or even flow. The only aspect Sony is playing catch-up to with MS is the handful of missing features from its online service, thats it. Not only that but 1 out of every 2 xbox360's overheat and die on you while picking your avatars new shirt.

MS has copied everything since then blatantly, and you turn your 180's every time they do it.

On Bluray/Movie/Buying:
I remember you saying "LOLZ I ONLY BUY A CONSOLE FOR GAMES NOT
MOVIES!" (Netflix)"ZOMG I LOVEEEEE netflix! Ooo now I can "stream" 1080p movies direct to my 360!!! I love movies now!"

On Browser/Non Gaming Features:
"LOL WHAT DO I NEED A BROWSER FOR? I'LL BE TOO BUSY PLAYING GAMES!!! HHAHAHAHAH DELAYSTATION!"(twitter/fa cebook) "OH my GOD i can twitter!?!?!? I love non gaming features now!!!"

On HOME:
"LOL HOME? WHY ON EARTH WOULD I WANT A AVATAR OF MYSELF TO DO WHAT? PLAY ARCADE GAMES???, I'LL JUST POP IN ANY OF MY AAA'S AND PLAY THEM. LOL, HAVE FUN PICKING UP LITTLE BOYS IN HOME!!! AHAHAAAAHA BUYING SHIRTS? BWUHAHAHAAHAHAA!(AVATARS)& quot ;SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET Now I can play 1 vs 100 with ALL my friends who LOVE to play avatar games! Oooo A Master Chef Helmet!!?!? $5.00/its mine!!! I love avatars now!!"

On Motion COntrols:
"LOL Motion controls are a GIMMICK! I DONT WANT TO WAVE MY ARMS AROUND FOR 5 HOURS PLAYING LAIR, WHO CARES ABOUT THE WII ITS A FAD! MOTION CONTROLS ARE STUPID!"(Natal) "OH MY GOD THIS IS THE FUTURE OF GAMING AS WE KNOW IT!"

On 2009-Delays.
"Lol DELAYSTATION GOT OWNEEEED AGAIN!!1 HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA"(delays ) "Well thats good, great financial move by Microsoft"

rinse & repeat.

FamilyGuy5800d ago

What do you people expect? They aren't going to up-sell the competition.

GWAVE5800d ago

"Innovation" is an overused term. It'll stop being used once another marketing catchphrase hits the scene. Remember how Microsoft used to constantly use the term "console exclusive", but now that the PS3 has them beat in that regard, they never utter the phrase? Remember how Microsoft used to blab about Metacritic scores, but then MGS4 and LBP came along and they suddenly were quiet about Metacritic? (and I'm only picking on Microsoft because this is written my TheMart. Sony and Nintendo have their own fair share of marketing BS)

ChickeyCantor5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

"
'Sony went into copy mode and made the wand'
Sony said that they've been working on the wands ever since they started eyetoy"

It was also MS who claimed they invented the "Mii" AKA Avatar.

I Invented the internet =D

""Innovation" is an overused term. It'll stop being used once another marketing catchphrase hits the scene."
Eeeeeeeeh no.

The GameIndustry is pushing itself to be innovative.
Its not a catchphrase, its actually something that has been there since the beginning of gaming.

Syronicus5799d ago

Skip over this trash. Anything written at the XboxKings is trash. It's just as much trash as any other fanboy site for any console. Trash sites like this are just a pathetic attempt at bashing the competition and simply put, are the bane of journalism today.

Please, save your brain cells and pass over this one.

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TheMART5800d ago

@ a_squirrel

"'Sony went into copy mode and made the wand'
Sony said that they've been working on the wands ever since they started eyetoy"

Oreally? Strange if they worked on it that long and they still had such a crappy prototype. It seems they put in some last moment stuff on E3. It looks so close to the Wiimote that I bet they're working on it a lot shorter. Don't believe everything Sony says...

"'The less hassle with any TV makes the ANA chip a true great innovation on the 360.'
Yeah right, I'm playing halo with another buddy, the screen isn't even entirely used (making stuff messed) until I switch to 1 person, or 4 people playing (resolution is the 1650 or so thingy) "

Resolution 1650 or so thingy? You mean playing on a computer monitor? Try to do that with the PS3 on that resolution. I bet you get no screen at all...

"'Besides that NXE brings avatars, not liked and loved by everyone at first, but then again accepted in the end. Its that bit of personalization that the more casual gamer likes. Somewhat copied from the Mii’s on the Wii, but improved and taken one step further to actually let them play in games like 1 vs 100. Besides the visuals and the way you control the dash, also in functions its lightyears ahead. Including online features on Xbox Live.'
Yes, of COURSE (sarcasm being used) the dashboard is lightyears ahead,(sacasm ended)even though sony perfected the XMB already, so there wasn't anything to improve, oh, and the themes are free (except premium) "

Sorry PS3 XMB isn't perfect, its the same old PSP XMB. Its not very approchable for new gamers and many things are hidden in bloody long lists. The 360 NXE is better then PS3 XMB period.

"'Its almost 3 years since the launch of PSN and still the basic features aren’t done.'
Riiiight.... it's only missing 2 features"

Its missing the crossgame invite en crosschat, but it misses more and soonish it'll miss even more with the August 360 update. And still then if it were only 2 features, they're very important ones. After 3 years still not done. Thats sad. They'll never happen then.

" 'Their overall strategy just goes all over the place, investing in stuff that differs too much.'
That's why I like it, variety. "

Its not about killing variety. Its about rather doing a few things good, then a lot of things badly.

"'Natal will be backwards compatible with any game that receives a patch'
Have you heard of firmware updates? "

Have games for the PS3 that are out have been given PSeye enable patches?

"'But games alone don’t make the total experience Sony.'
So if a console like a ps3 came out with almost no games, but loads of features, wireless, bluetooth, blablah, everyone would still buy it? Hell no, they'd go for the 360 or wii unless they want the best, and/or bluray"

Learn to read. Its not games ALONE. The games must be there, but its not the only thing that makes the experience.

a_squirrel5800d ago

"'But games alone don’t make the total experience Sony.'
So if a console like a ps3 came out with almost no games, but loads of features, wireless, bluetooth, blablah, everyone would still buy it? Hell no, they'd go for the 360 or wii unless they want the best, and/or bluray"

Learn to read. Its not games ALONE. The games must be there, but its not the only thing that makes the experience.

Exactly, I'm trying to point out that the Ps3 had a whole lot of features, and a few games, and what happened? Xbox fanboys were going: Crapstation this, it doesn't even have good games. Then when good games came out they said: Oooo it doesn't have XBL (and their overpriced stuff) features

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Shendow5800d ago

Why buy 360? Halo, Halo 2 Halo 4 Halo 11, Microsoft is milking a good game to death, PS3 is better for its price because of all the hardware in it, free online play, being able to upgrade to a 1TB hard drive and the Bluray disc last alot longer then DVD or CD's.

In the end the PS3 is the most over power an most pack full system out their, I mean hack you can get Lunix on it and I wouldn't be shock if you can use the older Windows on it to.

FamilyGuy5800d ago

I've never been interested in the game. Gears looked good years ago, but I think Alan Wake looks like the only reason to own a 360 now.

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XBLA Classic 'A World of Keflings' Is Coming to Steam, and There's a Demo

"Back in the innocent days of 2010, A World of Keflings was a fairly popular successor to A Kingdom for Keflings. I even wrote about it a few times in 2012! But the world of humans moved on, and NinjaBee's city-building/adventure game was last seen on the ill-fated Wii U in 2014. Fast-forward to the dark year of 2025, and not only is A World of Keflings coming to Steam, but there's already a playable demo! Perhaps the cheerful, no pressure gameplay that the Keflings bring is just what we need nowadays," says Co-Optimus.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola3d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola2d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin1d 14h ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola1d 13h ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop1d 14h ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel11d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola1d 1h ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel14h ago(Edited 4h ago)

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris3d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK2d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar2d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy2d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel11d 12h ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola3d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer2d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused1d 21h ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher2d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer2d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion2d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola2d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje2d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola2d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused1d 21h ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno2d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool2d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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It Has Been Over 2,500 Days Since The Elder Scrolls 6 Was Revealed

It's been officially over 2,500 days since The Elder Scrolls 6 was revealed, and fans are still waiting for more than a logo and a mountain range.

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jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It will come out in another 1000-2000 days or so. I’d rather they remake Morrowind. After they added quest arrows, sprint button, making stats lesser and the big nerfs to spells Elder Scrolls has been too simplified. They could change that with ES6 but I don’t have much faith in modern Bethesda. I would love to be wrong

clevernickname1d 22h ago

Wait until he hears about Star Citizen...