Microsoft hatred is a disease

Linux inventor Linus Torvalds said that Microsoft hatred is an Open Source disease which prevented the company from being a good decent citizen.

Last week Microsoft submitted 20000 lines of code to the Linux kernel, all licensed under the GPL. Torvalds said that he hadn't seen the code yet and he is not interested in driver code anyway. He said he was a big believer in "technology over politics". I don't care who the code comes from, as long as there are solid reasons for it to exist and he didn't have to worry about licensing issues.

"I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease. I believe in open development, and that very much involves not just making the source open, but also not shutting other people and companies out," he wrote in his blog.

[Xwow2008]

open development is a good thing.

[xXSilentXx]

If there was nothing like an open sourche than we had nothing to use for and then we had to pay for everything.

[Kushan]

Open Source does not necessarily mean FREE. Open Source exists for a variety of other reasons.

[gumgum99]

@ Kushan
"Open Source does not necessarily mean FREE. Open Source exists for a variety of other reasons."

like...

[Kushan]

Like better compatibility. If you have the source to a piece of software, you're free to do what you like with it, compile it in any way you want, install it on any system you want, modify it how you like. None of that implies that it has to be "free", though.

Take two scenarios:

1) You buy a piece of proprietary, closed-source software. You HAVE to run it on the platforms they dictate, if a bug appears, you have to wait for them to fix it, if there's a security vulnerability, you have to wait for them to fix it, if you upgrade your system, you might not be able to take it with you and so on.

2) You get an open source piece of software. You can compile it for any platform you like, if there's a bug you can fix it yourself (or hire someone to fix it - remember, we're talking about big corporations here as well as desktop users), if there's a security vulnerability discovered, chances are there'll be a patch from whoever discovered it. If you upgrade your system, you can take the software with you since it likely will just take a recompile.

Some companies offer the open source software for free, but then let you pay for support (which could be anything from on-site support, to updates, to phone support). Once again, not necessarily free.

Furthermore, and most importantly, Open-source is open to the community. anyone can look at the code, submit bugs and even write in new features, making it better for everyone. Imagine what would happen if the PS3OS or 360OS were open source, pretty much any video support you wanted would be added, all kinds of fancy dash/XMB options would be created, better web browsers (comparable to our desktop ones) would be added and you can bet that every feature you've ever wanted would be added. That's the power of open source.

And sometimes, the educational value is still there as well. Both ID and Epic have released source codes to some of their engines (Most famously Doom and Quake 3's), but that's not made those GAMES free, just the source code. To play the games, you still must buy a license. That's a fine example right there.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Another point with Open Source is, it doesn't protect you from malware or other insidious behavior. Example is the open source pdf printer software "pdfCreator":

"Users have reported that this software changes their computer settings. PDFCreator's end-user-license-agreement states that the software will "modify your Microsoft Internet Explorer and/or Mozilla Firefox browser settings for the default search engine, address bar search, "DNS error" page, "404 error" page, and new tab page to facilitate more informative responses as determined by The Toolbar". All instances of "page not found - 404 errors" redirect to a malicious search site." -excerpt from wikipedia (that I can personally confirm a few of those applied to me).

Open Source is great and I tend to steer towards open source applications I can find, but they have numerous issues and isn't the solution to all.

I very much agree with the submission and think that in some ways Open Source actually increases the entry bar in terms of user friendliness. I think both proprietary and open source needs to exist for this balance.

[zagibu]

@Kushan: Well, you are generally right, but once a successful project is open sourced, it is impossible to close it again, because the code is out there and people can use it as an example to build their own codebase.

It is possible to change from e.g. GPL to a proprietary license, but let's be realistic here. Four months later, a new software will be born with a new codebase, but almost identical features. It's impossible to prevent that.

[pppppeach]

PS3 fanboys on N4G get more sad by the day. Of course the ps3 dies everyday a little bit.

Hope sony will pull the plug soon.

[jessehaysfl]

ssssstupid comment man. You actually want your beloved M$ not to have any competition to keep them inovating? Fact. If you didnt have a playstation 2 the xbox would not be what it is today.

Imagine a world where M$ doesn't have any competition. Would they push the envelope? No.

Sony and Microsoft need to co-exist. They push each other to deliver better experiences to us all.

Competition in captalism is a great thing. Please think before you make your fanboy comments man. I love my ps3 and I hate M$ however I can see that both companies have there strong and weak points and when one company exploits the others weakness they get a posotive response that improves the companies offerings as a whole.

[lh_swe]

Sony is not going to pull the plug, people say MS hatred is a disease, well what about the hatred towards the ps3? Just because the ps3 is 3rd in sales its automatically doomed, but what about the yearly average sales which are just about equal, sure the 360 had a head start and this will give them a head start in sales and this is what people don't realize. Besides MS fanboys like you refuse to see the qualities of the PS3 because you are so set on hating it. Likewise with Sony fanboys who hate the console purely on principle. To you I say F*** off, you should know better. Brand loyalty is one thing and if a person can only afford one console or is in need of only one thats one thing but blind fanboy hatred is immature and it only breed unnecessary conflict.

[Socomer 1979]

If microsoft payed me rolayties to stop hating on them i'd take the cash and stfu. Wish me luck.

BTW, Fck microsoft... $$$ !

[OmarJA]

Yeah fck them... $$$

[blackbeld]

LOVING MICROSOFT IS A DISEASE!!!!!!!!!!

HATE MICROSOFT means back to reality!!!!!!!!

Give me a good reason why we should love Microsoft after SPAM, VIRUSES, BSOD, RROD PAYING for LIVE...... Wake up Xbots!!!

[KingKionic]

You guys are hilarious .

I got to bookmark this .

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Droids can't read

[user3915800]

If only he could manage a stable OS, then I would be a supporter, but the problem is that just like dos, linux, and the PS3 its just garbage.

Badabim badaboom the penguin has begun.

Trillupi trilupa the PS3 its crap.

[divideby0]

hatred is kind of strong...
open hardware + open software = best for the consumers.
MS is all about closed to keep prices up.

for me...I have purchased all consoles on launch day going back to Intellivsion and btw ALL are still running....I am on my 3rd 360...and to make matters worse hearing MS say "failure rates are within industry standards" ....biggest lie and rip off to gamers in gamming history..

please name any other one which comes close to it in scope

[JOLLY1]

But apple does?

[Maddens Raiders]

because without [them], their OS would leap out of the box and devour you whole, including your soul. So, charging would really add insult to injury. I kid, I kid..lol

[Major_Tom]

Apples OS isn't $600 to begin with.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

No it is $600 with the laptop you bought from Apple.

Those small fees for the OS updates are what I call holding me hostage. I have run into cases where I cannot install a piece of software I bought without paying Apple $75 (if I don't remember wrong) to upgrade the OS so it is now compatible with the software.

[ActionBastard]

Your paid $75 for an OS UPGRADE. OS upgrades are not the same thing as Service Packs. Being angry at Apple because you are trying to run a 10.5 app on 10 is your fault, not theirs. Also, OEM OSs are included in the price you pay for any computer, be it Mac or PC.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I don't care if it is an upgrade or not. If I bought Windows XP and it came with SP1, but my software needed SP3. I would have no problem installing it after I get a free download from MS. With Apple, they call it an OS upgrade and force me to pay for an upgrade.

Whatever you call it, I'm still extorted to pay for the update or upgrade. MS could equally have called SP2 an upgrade because it included a host of new features including built-in firewall.

If the word 'upgrade' justifies $75 is fine with you then good for you!!! Personally I would not put up with a maintenance fee on top of the premium priced hardware.

My comment about the $600 was in regards to how Macs are priced at a premium to their PC brethren for the same hardware. There is nothing wrong with that if you prefer Macs, but ignoring that fact and claiming that Windows is priced at $600 is just ridiculous.

[ShadowMantis]

Thanks Microsoft for bringing so much hate in this world.I thirst for blood and hate,thank u for feeding me such a wonderful meal!

[HuGi]

Apple and Google are also GREAT Companies!!

Without them the world wont be as it is NOW!

If we have Windows and Linux is because of MICROSOFT , if we have a broswer called Firefox is because Microsoft IE!

If we have an Oppen Office is because Microsoft OFfice if we have a bing is because Google!

Competition is Good and those companies have made the world better with choices for everyone!

Microsoft , Apple or Google are ALL GREAT and Competition means more and better products -- Look at Zune HD wont be possible without an IPOD in the market...

Xbox Brand wont be here if Playstation and Nintendo Didnt exist , Samsung , LG , Asus and Sony wouldnt have sucka a GREAT products if only 1 exists , Competiton is good so stop the hating.

Without Microsoft u wont be playing uncharted 2 , killzone 2 and MORE.

Without Microsoft u wont be sufing on the net like u are today.

Without google u couldnt find whatever u want on the net like today...

etc...

[KingKionic]

*pulls necktie*

You do know your about to die in this comment section right ?

Just trying to past the word on to ya....

[Godmars290]

Yes, because IE SUCKS!

The reason there isn't a browser called Netscape anymore is because MS bought up several required open apps and made them proprietary. Crippled the competition overnight to the point they never recovered.

The good folks as MS then took this "victory" and did nothing with it. Produced the ever increasing bloated and lethargic IE we know today that "someone" has become integrated into an equally unreliable OS that only survives because of monopolistic tactics.

That's why we have Firefox *despite* IE!

[KingKionic]

IE isn't that bad godmars .

Just not as open as firefox . IE has changed a lot in speed and stability .

Firefox does have a ton of customization and nice features .

But i currently enjoy all the top browsers IE ,Firefox,Safari .

[Godmars290]

Yeah, but the only reason its changed is because of Firefox. Just like the Windows OS will likely improve now, pass the costly upgrades that requires tons of updates over years before working anywhere near to promised, is going to be dependent on how well the Chrome OS does.

But expect any Linux based app that MS owns which Chrome OS needs to become restricted before Windows really starts to improve.

@Action Bastard:
No, I'm talking about OS apps. All the code MS puts into into Linux much of which no one except them have an idea of what it is. That's the thing, though Linux is open MS "owns" enough of it that they can kill it on a whim, or worse, should it become more popular Windows.

[ActionBastard]

Linux based MS apps (Office, IE, etc) don't exists and will probably never exist, so Chrome OS should be ok.

[Pennywise]

LOL!!!!! Without Microsoft I wouldn't of been born!

Things happen without MS. Relax!

[Jecht]

You do understand that Microsoft didn't create Windows right?

[a_squirrel]

ummm, have you heard of open source, you can create games on things other than windows

Also, Sony went into the console business when nintendo gave them the big finger at a E3 press conference

[gintoki777]

I think hugi is trying to brainwash us and is an android which only function is to convince people Microsoft is necessary to continue life as we know it.
=(
truth is microsoft has made appealing products to the public but to the gaming world it would not be as we know it if it were not for nintendo,atari ,etc. sony hopped on at the right time and helped build the industry to what it is now .......microsoft........not really
so hugi please stop looking at microsoft as this god

[mxdan]

Do you even have any idea what microsoft does to the tech world? They buy out companies with better ideas and technology so they won't have any competition, and for the most part they simply dispose of the ideas because they aren't their own. If the company doesn't sell themselves then Microsoft will buy out the resources the company needs to survive.

In fact the only reason Microsoft got into this console generation was to beat one of their only competitions Sony. They didn't give a damn about gaming or consoles they are just obsessed with money and making sure no competition exists.

Microsoft hasn't survived all these years because of their brilliant ideas and their pushing towards innovation but because of their brilliance in public relations and buisness. They've ruthlessly destroyed software and hardware companies for 'profit'.

They are the embodiment of whats wrong with capitalism and they destroy the fair competition who innovates.

You want to know why microsoft donates so much to charity, its to trick easy minded fools into thinking they are a GREAT company when in fact all they are doing is buying your trust! They are doing the only thing their good at and playing the market.

[LukaX23]

Every computer I've ever purchased with Microsoft's OS broke down. I'm either unlucky, or that's basically how Microsoft makes a fortune off of us and it's purposely breaking down so I'd have to spend more money on their products.

PS: LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN!

[KingKionic]

lol?

What Pc you have ?

[Gamer1111]

maybe you should lay off the porno's if you pc keeps breakin....

but in a way every company sucks....

for example 2 weeks ago i got a demo for Monster hunter for my psp. put it in and my psp froze..just froze.....counldt do anything..i try new battery off on ..etc everything....called sony...my warranty was over by 2 weeks and they charged me 90$ because my psp froze trying to update a demo.....

Sony is just as evil as Microsoft as they are to apple and apple to walmart lol.......booo hooo

[Socomer 1979]

You know the:
ZuNE
HD-DVD
Xbox 3Sh!tty Malfunctions
Vista

You kinda crap all over your products dont ya?

If hating microsoft is a disease then i dont want to be cured.
This disease is saving me money.

F U Microsoft... $$$

Pay me!

[Tr10wn]

Zune is an awesome media player.
HD-DVD well it was a format war blue-ray won and thanks to that the ps3 is today in the market.
Xbox 360 yeah it was malfunctional but still i will buy 40 xbox over any other console.
Vista was made for High Performance PC if you had a duo and 3gb of memory ram well go to xp.

nothing you said convince me for hating Microsoft.

[KingKionic]

Open zone is open .

[LukaX23]

I HAD multiple Dells, HP's and Compaq desktops and notebooks. I've had enough...

[KingKionic]

Wow...

I made a conversion from Xp from Vista. But i did switch Pcs though . Never had them crap out on me though .

Well i feel sorry for you .

[a_squirrel]

there is hope! google is making an O/S, and so far their stuff hasn't been crap, or expensive :)

[zagibu]

Google is making an OS is not really true. They take the vanilla linux kernel sources, apply some own patches, and slap an own windows manager on it. The "OS" stuff is mostly linux code. It wouldn't make sense to rewrite it, anyway. Better minds than Google has on their payroll has built that code over a period of more than a decade.

[Tr10wn]

This is nothing special Microsoft and Linux is like water and oil they don't mix same goes to Apple, but even when people hate MS so much they should love them what would it be in gaming world with out DirectX and other useful tools.

[Gue1]

I think that both Sony and Nintendo run their platforms on Linux based OS. So, the gaming world does not need directX. Only your PC world and that's only on a maybe...

[dirthurts]

http://www.dailytech.com/Mi...

Microsoft does more than they have to. Any company doesn't want to give away their code if they are raking in the cash. They didn't have to hook linux up with all that code, but they did.

Quit hating on MS. They are good at what they do, and they know how to make money doing it. Jealous or something?

[ActionBastard]

They're good at what they do? Typical end user...

That free code more than likely came from the MS/Novell partnership for Suse+Windows interoperability. Nothing is done "for the good of man". Those days died when Gates stepped down.

[dirthurts]

Those billions of dollars say otherwise.
If you read the link you would see exactly what the code was for, but some people don't read articles. They just go with the flow, and say what everyone else says. That's the fun thing to do right?

[ActionBastard]

Like my post below said(a couple of hours ago), MS coding Linux drivers mean d1ck. I'm not going to give MS a pat on the back for supplying driver code to an OS they've publicly mocked, dismissed and legally tried to stop from gaining the IT foothold it has. You act like they've actually contributed to the Linux kernel making the strides it has in the past, hell, 5yrs. They did NOTHING. And you're happy about it? Hahaha.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Think about it. Tech companies are here to invent tech for us to make life a little easier. What's wrong with everyone working together?! Should I "hate" another company because I choose the other company products? No, we shouldn't. I include myself because I get involved in the rhetoric sometimes.

[Spike47]

LOL @Hugie, if it wasn't for Nintendo, MS nor Sony would be in gaming.

[Jecht]

If it wasn't for Atari, Nintendo wouldn't be in gaming. And if it wasn't for Magnavox, NO ONE would be in gaming. The first home console ever made was made by Magnavox.

I wonder if Nintendo still owns any "love hotels", and if they are as "casual" as the Wii. lol.

[ShadowMantis]

The XBOX360 isn't that bad.

[F N A Pepper]

sure how to say this without getting bashed but i like the competitiveness of the business if we don't have open source then it drive other companies to develop newer and better ways to work around something one company has, i believe that if everyone had the same thing then the reward wouldn't be as high and companies wouldn't try as hard. that's just what i think, but i'm not trying to argue the point with anyone, if you agree cool if not cool.

[PHOSADRA]

Wether or not a company has competition should not determine if a new product is developed.

For example:
I'm pretty sure that Microsoft would have developed a better Zune even if they sold the only MP3 player on the market. With Apple developing iPods, the main difference is the SPEED of new development. Both companies try to get better products out faster before the competition.

Things will develop over time(it is technology...)it simply happens faster with competition.

A good company must better itself in any situation. With or without competition.

[dawgsfan117]

Competition has always been what sparked great strides in technology. Be it the US vs Soviet rivalry leading to advancements in space travel or the Nintendo vs Sony rivalry leading to better gaming. Without competition people and corporations become complacent and have no real reason to work harder.

[ActionBastard]

1. Linux coded drivers by MS has d1ck to do with gaming.
2. The hatred was EARNED, not unfairly bestowed upon poor little ole Microsoft.

[madpuppy]

Microsoft earned it's reputation as an underhanded company that will do anything to destroy ANY competition Legally or otherwise.

@Godmars290: as for the statement that Microsoft "owns" any part of Linux is a Fantasy and only a blind fool would believe that. you cannot add code to Linux unless it has been released under an Open source License. (Usually the GPL V2 or V3)
essentially releasing your rights to the code. Microsoft can do nothing besides threat litigation, because if there was Microsoft code in the Linux kernel they would have to prove it by pointing it out and showing that their own code. Microsoft will never reveal code for core components of Windows to prove it. And that is a slippery slope, they might just have some purloined code in the Win32 kernel that someone else owns, whether it be GPL'd code or otherwise.

Microsoft doesn't own every bit of operating system code on the planet you know.

[Godmars290]

No, MS doesn't own every OS in the world.

They just have a grip on them. Enough to strangle some if they become too popular.

[madpuppy]

GNU/Linux is a community OS. and alot of companies have invested and have alot at stake to keep Linux safe from the Likes of Microsoft. From Google to IBM. Red Hat to Nokia as well as FSF, EFF, Linux foundation, these same companies have donated large amounts of they're patent portfolios to protect Linux from patent attacks. GNU/Linux is like a hydra, a hundred can fall and it still wouldn't kill it. that is why Microsoft feels that they have to make vague claims about patent infringement so people like you can fall into the trap of thinking that Linux is going to disappear. Linux is everywhere and there isn't a damn thing that Microsoft can do about it. From Tivo and cable set top boxes to 90% of the cell phones on the market, IBM servers, some newer TV's and the netflix Roku. It's too late for Microsoft to stop Linux.

http://www.linuxfordevices....

and this is just a taste of how deep Linux has permiated the market right under most peoples noses.

[Godmars290]

But that doesn't mean that MS wont try to kill it if they have to.

Just look at all they're accused of doing to stop/slow down the Blu-Ray format.

[madpuppy]

they even tried to say that Linux is the OS of terrorists and communists.

but, the strength of Linux is in it's license and community. something that Microsoft never came up against before.

[Nihilism]

any hatred towards microsoft is probably earned by them, pissed of 360 owners on their 3rd rrod, vista buyers........"why can't we all just get along"....because i paid $300 for vista and now their bringing out vista 2.0 aka windows 7 which i should get for free....but am not

[Alcon Caper]

Copying isn't bad.

It's good when the unknown technology is properly marketed and distributed.

This is what Microsoft does in spades.

[ShadowMantis]

Yeah Microsoft has its flaws,but what about the PS3?

[Pootangpie]

people like to hate anything that's popular just to be cool and MS seems to have really big bucks in the world when it comes to most other companys out there the truth sony is no less evil then MS when it comes to business and anyone that thinks otherwise is delousional or just down right retarded

@Spike47
LOL @Hugie, if it wasn't for Nintendo, MS nor Sony would be in gaming.

actually if it wasn't for atari and maganvox odyessey gameing wouldn't even exist or be as popular as it is now

[Godmars290]

While Atari did start the console industry - actually it was pong, but I digress - it also killed the industry via tons of shovelware. With none of its contemporary competition coming anywhere close to its still modest levels. Nintendo revived it years later, then Sony took the ball and carried it to its current state.

[hano]

Microsoft love is a disease. It also has the side effect of leaving you broke by buying any silly crap they give you.

[Pootangpie]

not to mention the PS1 overheat issue and PS2 DRE promblem oh and don't forgot the corrupted PS3 HDD that causes a reformat and the bluray drive malfunctions almost forgot the PSP's cheap durablity issues

[kraze07]

I somewhat agree with hano. Not everything they make is crap, but they can be greedy as hell sometimes.

[PStu'rd]

LOL @ all the Sfags that selfowned themselves. Socomer as usual the first retard out of the gate.

I can see why some people hate MS. Hating 360 is just jealousy. Hating 360 and primitively praising everything sony, especially a sony product as bad as ps3 or psp go is insanity, a mental disease to be exact.

[San Frandisco]

Chrome OS FTW!

[madpuppy]

you do realize that the ChromeOS is going to be Linux based.

and I am looking forward to seeing what Google can do with their own Linux Distro.

[ActionBastard]

Agreed MadPuppy, agreed. And Midnight Meat Train rocked.

[madpuppy]

SICK! You got good taste Action Bastard. glad to see someone on here knows what my Avatar was from.

[dawgsfan117]

LOL I saw that movie but you have to admit this. "Midnight Meat Train" sounds like a gay porn.

[madpuppy]

the name, depending on your POV could be viewed as something it is not. but, be careful, the silver hammer could be in your future.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

:P

[dawgsfan117]

Lol like I said ive seen the movie and i liked it. The title is still funny.

[takohma]

I didnt know the PS3 had blu-ray issues. is it a specific model? i have the 60g. and the hdd that causes a reformat? never heard of this before. is there any warning? is there any where i can look thiks up at? wuts the percentage of these things happening? im pretty nervous now.

[madpuppy]

It just chuggs along doing everything I ask of it. no blu-ray issues no hard drive issues...games run fine and I am very happy with it. as for my 360, 2 rrods, an e79 error rechargeable batteries have died twice on me. the rubber on the analog sticks is deteriorating. Microsoft hardware is very much like it's software, it needs to be "reinstalled" or "replaced" every 6 months to get the best out of it. blah...

[DevastationEve]

They've only earned a bad rep from people who just hate to see them succeed and fanboys too concerned with their imaginary flamewars.

Look at how quickly Microsoft worked on Windows in only the last 3 years of Vista...there's major reform happening as we speak. They understand that support is important, so they got to working on Vista SP2 within barely a year of SP1. There's even an XP mode in 7 for the business versions aimed at supporting companies that still rely on older programs.

Microsoft hatred IS a disease and it's basically the kind that anti-Microsoft fanboys are good at spreading. Until they get their way and have people chanting their belief they won't be satisfied.

Alright, I'll concede that I can't make you like Microsoft. But people should also concede that they can't make ME hate them.

[NaiNaiNai]

funny all this hate. Yet I bet 90% of the users posting hate are using a MS product right now. XD

[gumgum99]

Whose to say any of them have much of a choice. Once a better OS comes along with the right atmosphere, I'll be saying Sayonara to Windows.

Linux and Ubunto, unfortunately, aren't that plane ticket.

[madpuppy]

sorry, Pal, pure Linux user here. :P

there is no way I would run Windows on the Internet. I love Windows because it is such a terrible OS. Windows is good for bleeding dry the uninformed non computer savvy. I have made so much money off of them.

[NaiNaiNai]

and this shows how smart you are. I said 90% not everyone, shows why you use such a horrible OS as linux, only thing linux is good for is server us. as for apple. ROFL

[madpuppy]

90% of cell phones, 46.49% of web servers,
google, tivo, netflix roku player. MP3 players And the PS3. Linux has permeated every market. I think that possibly you are quite ignorant and presumptuous.

Just because you do not have the mental acumen or desire to learn how to use anything other than windows doesn't give you the right to have disdain for things you obviously know nothing about.

[devilhunterx]

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to Surfing and Wild beach parties

[DelbertGrady]

Without Xbox Live online gaming for consoles wouldn't be where it is today. I doubt the PS3 and Wii would even be online compatible without MS paving the way.

[Pootangpie]

what makes you think it's going to happen anytime soon besides if anything there probably going to pick up ground again with windows 7 considering the praise it's getting from the press heck even the beta was great and mostly microsoft beta products suck ass

[badbond1]

Got a PS3/wii/pc/macbook and I don't even use my pc -primarily because the OS on the PC is microsoft. And a bit of a shout out to the crapbox for pushing the PSN to make it the best (lag free) online gaming system currently available - oh, and FREE!

[Crazy Dave]

IiI'MmM DdiIsSsEeaAsSeEdDD!!!!

[Jhun]

Ignorant Apple fanboys = MS hatred.

Open Source > Closed Source

[BlueScreenOfDeath]

you are hilariouzzz

"Well mate you should read a little of history from Sony because they had copied everything since PSX, and now with the purple glowing dildo copying the Wiimote."

ironically, you need a history lesson to make you sound less idiotic.
that glowing dildo was patented before Nintendo's Revolution was announced

ladies and gentlemen: another classic and living example of the intellectual inferiority of teh xbots