TheGamerStudio.com writes: "By now of course everyone has seen the L4D2 boycott. I personally think its the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Here's why....."
i wouldnt be surprised if l4d3 comes next year but hopefully there still working on half life 2 episode 3 and it might be pretty long since its been worked on *praying*.
Episode 3 has been in development since 2007. There's been a team hard at work on HL2:Ep3 all this time. Valve is a company of about 160 people. They have 20 people working on TF2, 18 on L4D2 and the rest is divided among Portal 2, HL2:Ep3, Steam and possibly an unannounced title.
Yup, Left4Dead 2 is a joke
I honestly don't give a damn about LFD2.. All i want is another portal game and half life 2 ep 3.
the people that bought L4D at launch thinking that it would get DLC out the yang for the foreseeable future are peeved but others that really liked the game are excited for the sequel and don't mind paying full retail price since it would cost roughly what it would were the game DLC. I think people just need to remember that Valve isn't known for not supporting games after launch. While I can't recall an older version of a game getting the same level of DLC as it's sequel, I gotta say I trust Valve when they say they'll do just that.
I signed on to the l4d2 but it's not like I dislike Valve. I have a lot of faith in them because as they've shown they do support their games. The fact that they've responded to one of the bigger issues amongst the boycott "finding a way to not split the l4d community" means a lot to their fans. As the guy locked up in the safehouse says..."Better safe than sorry!" I'm sure that's just one of the many announcements we'll see from them.
"I’ve come to the conclusion the majority of the boycotters are bitter PS3 and PC owners. PS3 owners who’ll never play the game. PC owners who play it too much. Valve is a business and they dont owe you anything. Get a freakin 360 or life and STFU." LOL. Funny stuff.
The headline of the articles should be "3 reasons gamers should not be allowed to have a fu<king opinion" or "Why every gamer should be a fu<king tool and not question developers desicions"
Did he really get why people keep whining about Left4Dead 2? First he's acting like if L4D2 was a 360 exclusive, whereas most of the whiners are Steam players, so PC gamers. But if people complain about L4D2 it's mostly because Valve announced it and will release it too soon. l4D released 18 November 2008, L4D2 is announced on 21st April 2009 (5 months later) and due to release for November 2009, only a year after the first one. Which means for the players: - They feel like having payed for a beta; - L4D wont be supported in DLC (despite what Valve says); - The L4D players will quit the game for L4D2, making L4D a dead game less than two years after its release; - L4D2 clearly didn't have time to get improved technically; I don't defend the whiners but that's pretty legitimate, it's like if Sony released LittleBigPlanet and say "And don't forget, LittleBigPlanet 2 releases in 6 months, pretty cool right?". The difference is that Valve has an incredibly hard fanbase constituted by angry PC nerds that will follow them until death, just like does Microsoft with Halo fanboys. So even if L4D2 releases in 4 months, it will sell buckets, and if they plan to release L4D3 6 months after, it will still sell as much.
If Sony had done this, their carcasses would be at the stake already. This guy needs to learn how to spell before he writes up a rant.
@ultimolu So true. If Sony do something in the likes, the media will have Sony for lunch. It's crazy. BTW, I watched some videos of L4D. It looks quite a fun/mindless game, a good fun by 5-6 hours. It uses the ooold Source engine but good thing is, any lower to medium spec pc should run it easily. I'll give it a try when it's less than 20 bucks.
But sony didn't so get over it.
Hey, Assassin, did I say it was Sony? No. So cry me a river.
Why does everybody always have to pull the if this was Sony doing this then X would happen.... you dont need to bring it up cause it has nothing to do with the story.... @Tomonobu Itagaki The Thing i find is that how is it any different then a new call of duty each year... Some people stay and play the older one but the majority of course will move on, but also If valve says they will support L4D with more content then why do you have to say that you doubt that, you cant take valves counter argument and reply to that by saying "ha like ur gonna do that"... Now I enjoyed L4D but the fact that only the 2 maps were at multiplayer as kinda sad and I was disappointed but I have no problem with valve starting up some DLC and then finding out the have enough maps and addons to warrant a sequel, and to be honest I fully believe L4D 2 is a true sequel.... sure you may say one year isnt good enough to change how it plays but from what the press have said the truth is that it does play like a sequel..... My only problem i really have is how ive been waiting for episode 3 while valve has released 2 L4D's... but i mean sure we can complain all we want, but valve puts their heart sweat and tears into these games and they always deliver so if ur gonna complain about when the games are coming out and whats worth a sequel or not, then why dont you people go work for valve and make the game yourself and if you cant then maybe you should just sit down and play the other great games coming out this year like uncharted 2, ODST, Borderlands, ect..... and just let Valve do their thing cause in the end complaining about this stuff just makes us all look like pathetic idiots and honestly if anything PC gamers should be more angry at the fact that Call of Duty MW2 is gonna be $60 now thats just a true FU to consumers
Did you even read the article? He clearly mentions most of the whiners are PC users. That was the whole third reason. Second, L4D2 was announced in June at E3, not April. Third, how do you knoe Valve is lying about supporting L4D1? Fourth, the game has clearly been improved technically. New AI director, zombie models, slight graphical update You didnt really address ANYTHING in the article.
Coming next week: "Why Rocco Copeland REALLY needs to STFU." and also saying "he clearly mentions" when the article was written and submitted by you doesn't help your case.
It's been improved I agree they've added urm weather? But has it been a $60, £40 improvement. From what I've seen it's a no. Let's look at a game series Resistance... the first game was good, but the second game was almost totally different and a major improvement in my opinion easily a $60 improvement. To me L4D2 seems like an expansion but they realised not enough people bought L4D1 and willing to buy what I and many others consider a boring game... I'll try the L4D2 demo but honestly I doubt it'll feel 'WAW' more 'COD:WAW' in terms of what they added.
wait Resistance 2 was an improvement? I kinda found the SP to be a generic piece of crap and i actually didn't find the first that bad.... but L4D 2 is a 50 or 60 dollar improvement..... 5 new Films ( 1 more than what L4D had and according to valve each film is bigger than what they were in the first but we will see), New infected types plus level specific infected( Bullet Proof Zombies!!!), All of the films work on MP at the start not any of that only half work crap, New MP modes, New Guns, Melee Weapon system( this this already changes the game quite a bit) New AI director, 4 new playable characters, improved graphics engine and game play engine(from what ive heard from who have actually played it, it actually plays much better, alot more than expected, and im sure im missing some other minor changes.... So sure that doesn't match say what bungie delivers in each new game but honestly that's better than most sequels even when they have been given 2 to 3 years, hell MW 2 probably doesn't add that much more than what L4D 2 puts on the table, so if all this doesn't warrant a sequel then what the heck do you people want?
all you guys above need to STFU!
starting with you?
Good ol' gaming journalism... Always clean and professionnal
I'm glad someone else thinks so too. This is the second article in the last few weeks where the writer essentially shouts the F word at his readers. Readers who, by the way, are the only reason he has a job. Perfect example of our culture's sense of entitlement.
Hitler thinks different . http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Who else is mad? I see a bunch of whining and derailing, but NONE of you can dispute what what was said. Period.
Stupidity does a fine job of disproving itself. His article lost all credibility when he snuck in at the end that it was a fanboy war and only PS3/PC fans are "bitter." Of course it can't be L4D fans that are upset, it HAS to come down to console war BS. And THAT is why bloggers are not journalists. EVERYTHING reverts to the console war. Perhaps the author should grow the fvck up. Actually no, it lost it at the title. The boycotters are perfectly justified in their disdain for Valve's actions. But hey, if you all want to keep swallowing incremental updates while paying full price, by all means, don't speak up against anything. Bend over and take it some more. I can't wait until games hit $70 again.
"But hey, if you all want to keep swallowing incremental updates while paying full price, by all means, don't speak up against anything. Bend over and take it some more. I can't wait until games hit $70 again." I usually find my disagreeing with Unicron but ^^^this is 100% truth. If a MW2 boycott does indeed startup but fails. You're gonna be seeing $70 games as the new de facto standard in video game pricing.
You're lucky that's different footage from the one they usually use. Bubble. Lol.
Nobody disputes that L4D2 has enough content to be a sequel. Nobody disputes that L4D2 is worth the 50$. We just don't want it to be a separate, new game. We want it to be added to the first. The ONLY reason it's not being added to the first as DLC is because of Microsoft's 360 file limitations. If this was a PC exclusive it would've been added as DLC, whether paid for or not. To answer the question, yes, i would absolutely rather pay 50$ for DLC then 60$ for a new game. We love the first game, there's nothing wrong with it other than the lack of content that we paid 50$ for. We love the old characters, the new ones look horrible except for the guy in the suit who just looks alright. The old characters are cult favorites now and taking them away is a stupid decision. To put it simply we don't want to pay 100$ in one year, for the full L4D experience.
Careful man, you can't be an L4D fan here on N4G. You aren't allowed to like a franchise, you need to pick a CONSOLE to fellate.
LFD1 was fine. It didnt exactly require a "new" Director Engine that can now do "weather" effects (Wooooow). The Director Engine was designed for updates via downloadable content. As said by Valve. Period. For free. Period. These are maps. Minor gun mods. New Zombie skins. New Boss Zombies. AI revisions. I rate L4D1, probably in my top 3 - many games could learn a thing from its AI but I'll still only pay what its worth.
wont even go to the link....whoever this is is just posting an opinion, NO diff than those who are posting those about L4D2 being a utter shame and ripoff to gamers....
LOL in the same page, the first comment pwn3d the article ROFL.
L4D3 will come on 2010.
I think the boycotters got more then 3reasons to make TheGamerStudio.com STFU...
"You’re telling me you would rather buy 50 bucks of DLC, than a retail disc for 9.99 more that will contain more than what I simply outlined above? Really?" Wasn't L4D 1 priced at 40 or 50 bucks and not full retail price to begin with???
I don't think so, at least not in the UK - it was a full retail priced game. They did release a cheaper version of the game in a "Game of the year" edition which had the survival pack already installed on there a few months back though.
$40-50 is a full price retail PC game.
eh, i think left for dead sucks anyway. its not like DLC would help
1) Random blogs get submitted with poorly written articles that are nothing but flamebait. These blogs usually have titles of "[number] reasons why [object/people/company] [need to/is failing/is winning] blahblahblah" Am i right or am i right?
Another epic blog by a moron... leaves me to wonder how this garbage gets approved?
LOL...all you mad boycotters with nothing important to say. Now your mad at N4G? LMAO!! You boycotting them next?
Rocco, I posted on your site. Read it. Engulf it, I posted with the same name. You seriously have no position to be writing or informing anyone about video games. Go take an English class first, then pick a different specialization. You cannot argue your point across if you cannot clearly portray your own thoughts.
Its just easier for you to act like a missing comma makes the article completely incapable of comprehending. Quiting whining. Quit derailing and tackle the the points that were made or STFU. You lost. Your boycott lost. Deal with it.
Quiting whining .. ? WTF? STFU!
[email protected] the terrible spelling everywhere. Oh, and a bigger lol at the hilarious attempts at finding the spelling errors from Rocco. So anyway. Lets begin. Since when were map packs with one map 10 bucks each? I recall MGO expansions to be 20 bucks for 10 maps, 2 new (Game-changing) playable characters [Ryden and Vamp], and a bunch of game modes to boot. Correct me if i'm wrong - i didn't buy the expansion. Since when did new guns and characters cost 10 bucks as well? Character skins are almost ALWAYS free, but at the very most cost $0.99. ...well, unless of corse its LBP. But lets not get into that. That's all i read. Personally, i don't give a sh!t about L4D. I finished all the campaigns on the 360 and have no intention of playing the game again. It really wasn't that good. I won't be buying L4D2, but not because of some boycott - i just didn't really like the game all that much. And anyway, i'd just like to throw in that this was possibly the worst article i've ever actually read. "Get a fvckin 360 or life and STFU" (Pgph #3). Are you 12 years old?
Then why did you come here? hmm....
To uhh... to read the article... and see what he had to say. o.O If i only read stuff about what i cared about, i wouldn't be getting informed very much, right? xD Not that this article was very informative...
lol this guy is just mad . He`s obviously a fan .
New things in L4D2: 1. New AI Director 2.0 (Weather changes, alternate pathways added) 2. 5 new campaigns, 24 new maps 3. 4 new characters 4. At least 3 new special infected (Spitter, Charger, 1 unannounced) 5. Addition of at least 3 "common uncommon" (Mud Men, Hazmat, Riot) 6. 1 all new unannounced mode 7. A story 8. New guns/ammo (Grenade launcher, AK-47, incendiary) 9. Melee weapons (Axe, chainsaw, frying pan, bat) 10. New adrenaline shots and ammo packs 11. Slightly updated graphics & zombie character models 12. Limb dismemberment no longer automatically stops a zombie from attacking 13. Roaming daytime Witch These are confirmed things off the top of my head and i'm probably forgetting something. How were all of these things plus whatever else is still unannounced going to be free DLC added to the first game? LOL!
It`s a sequel people are just mad because it`s coming out this year. I guess no one remembers how long l4d one was .
People are angry because they were sold a box of empty promises. Nothing more. Nothing less.
It was a few hours long at best, with a good group of players. I played it a lot on Steam, awhile back. I'll play it more once I put a new rig together.
People just need to quit complaining...go buy it at gamestop when it comes out and if you dont like it within a week return it and get your money back. its that freakin simple. who cares if Valve released L4D2 a year after the original, you dont even know if its gonna be good or not so just buy or rent the dang game and just try it out.
There's actually a much better point to be made here. And the question is why? Why did Valve decide to make a sequel rather than creating more custom maps and characters to support the PC version. Why didn't valve patch in new weapons and new skins and new zombie types in the pc version? Why did Valve, who claims to be a PC developer with community interests, actually decide that since the 360 was going to gimp their support, they were going to screw over PC gamers has well and just come up with a new sequel. The fact is that more than half of the features of L4D2 could have been released to PC owners for much cheaper than retail price. And by the way, not a single person on this planet will ever go, "ooh, slightly updated graphics." Really? If Valve is deciding on making this a full-blown sequel why don't they spend an extra 8 months on fully updating the graphics. Another 8 months would put them on a normal game development cycle rather than this yearly installment that to be honest, will probably divide the community no matter how hard Valve tries to keep it together.
That was much more of a 360 fanboy's rant than a proper gaming article. And why is it even being approved in here? "...get a 360 or life or STFU...." Seriously? Sounded more like he hates non-360 gamers more than he hates the l4d2-boycott community. Kids.....
about Cod:Waw, What made Cod:waw different from COD4 was that there where different enemies, different weapons, different story, but the SAME gameplay, that's no a bad thing. All of the things I just mentioned are exactly what makes L4D2 different from L4D
Yep, and thats why i didnt get it!
Im kind of in the middle I agree with both sides. In a way Im pissed because I got part 1 at launch, thinking f-it ill pay the money if they keep updating it because In no way was the game worth that much money although it was fun, content wise it wasnt worth it. Left for Dead 2 has enough new content to make it a sequel, but what happens to the people who wasted their money on the first one and were promised free content. Are they importing the characters and maps fromt he first one into the second one? that would be nice. Even better if they sold it for 50 instead of 60.
These are post responses from the original article (thegamerstudio) "You realize that Valve had promised new characters and maps as free DLC for L4D before the game was released, right? Did you actually take the time to understand the issues before writing a completely misinformed rant filled with gramatical errors? I recommend you do so next time." That about sums it up.
Who cares lol i mean l4d wont be dead lol like memba the orange box on ps3 thats been out for a while n that has a big community still today with cod5 n cod4 around n call of duty 1 has players still so JUST STFU N STOP MOANIN!
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