Lars Bakken of Bungie and Microsoft Game Studios' Ryan Crosby confirmed that the campaign for Halo 3 ODST would be a shorter one than Halo 3.
it did start out as dlc. and dlc is usually shorter than a full game.
It was never slated as DLC. It's been considered a retail product since the Game Informer preview.
in halo 3 was kinda meh,decent at best,it was nothing like halo 1,halo 1 sp is one of the best ever,halo 3 sp is somewhat cold,uninspired,weapns didn't feel as powerful as h1 or 2,battles were amazing and so memorable in h1,level design in h1 was so memorable,I mean the whole gameplay in h1 was the best halo gameplay ever,they ruined the assualt rifle in halo 3,it's nothing like the old one,levels in h3 feels empty,dull and forgettable as hell,online mp saved h3 for me I hope odst have an amazing sp mode and...one of the things that really bothers me about h3 and odst is that these games aren't a major jump over halo 1,halo 1 gfx,scoop,etc was too good to be true at its time,u expect h3 to have the same impact but it wasn't,odst just feels halo 3+,im afraid the series suffer from the"smackdown vs raw syndrome"
Couldn't agree more
but i thought that the campaign in halo 3 was actually the best.
I suggest you watch your mouth.
@Eiffel It might be a retail product, but it's still an expansion. Similar to what Bethesda did with Shivering Isles. From the GI interview: ODST design director Paul Bertone when asked Why Master Chief wasn't the star of Halo ODST (then called Recon): "When we were thinking about the Chief or the Arbiter stories that we could tell, there was just no story that fit into a THREE to FIVE-hour EXPANSION PACK, which is what we're building here."
@ Xi: Say what? You went totally off topic, also you think MGO saved MGS4? You think the gameplay barely evolved from MGS1 to MGS4, and only got worse? You think there was no major jump graphically or gameplay wise between 1 and 4? O..K sure...*finds a wall and hits his head on it* On topic: I've never played a Halo, I know it's sad :(, but I might get this probably later when the price goes down, but I'll still get it :)
I was disappointed by the campaign in Halo 3.. as I said before, Gravemind was totally robbed. I still think Halo 1 stands up the best. (Multiplayer excluded, since Bungie are masters at making good MP)
have you looked at any of the halo games next to each other? they all look pretty different from each other. Halo 2 looked way better than CE in almost every respect. Character models in H3 weren't a huge leap, but the environments looked way better than in H2. And CE wasn't really a huge leap over anything at the time. That said, we've known the campaign was shorter than H3 since it was announced.
i'm playing halo 3 right now ... and i have to say the game is bucket loads of fun ... the environments are huge ... and there's no telling whats gonna happen next...
Not a huge Halo fan but I do own them all and it'll sell like water before an asteroid impact. That being said, short and sweet pretty much sucks nowadays! Just like COD4, a 5 hour campaign for $60 is a joke. I understand that the MP adds tons to the game but not everyone values MP over story mode and those people get screwed. I'm not looking for Fallout 3 or Oblivion but an 8-10 hour campaign should not be that much to ask for when your shoveling out cash.
totally agree ape.
This is old, everyone knew this when ODST was announced
It's a full retail game though...
this was confirmed months ago, and the Halo 3 campaign was great. Halo 1 suffered from repetitive level design and a thin but still great story, which Halo 2 and Halo 3 addressed and succeeded with. The story is very in-depth for anyone who cares to explore it for longer than 10 seconds. Ive played and loved the series for 8 years now so i'd like to think i somewhat know what im talking about. This is not DLC, however it is an expansion, so a shorter single player is to be expected. It has a 4-5 hour Campaign EXPANSION of solid single player quality(which can be played Co-Op with 4 players), Firefight mode, which is a 4 player cooperative Gears 2 Horde mode on steroids, and it comes with all DLC Multiplayer maps released to date. A great expansion for a two year old game. I HIGHLY doubt this will be the case for Gears 2 or Killzone 2, or pretty much most other shooters 2 years from now. Bungie is good to their fans.
I disagree completely. The series got better with H2 and then H3. See what I did there? Sequels will never grab you like the original title. What we wanted was quality and just more of Halo and that's exactly what we got. Halo 3:ODST will continue that trend. Halo Reach will be something different, something we can be impressed by and really sink our teeth into.
IMO they probably put so much effort in making a great MP that the SP in Halo 3 suffered a bit (it was still good, people like to overreact when they criticize it)... I hope that ODST is really great since they don't have to worry about the multiplayer. Also, does anyone know if this will be full retail price?
lmfao Xi. I guess some1's feeling are still hurt over MGS4
Halo fans will buy ODST regardless. However consider this: more people play the multiplayer on a daily basis than campaign. Does the article specify how much shorter? No. All Halo 3 map packs (plus the second half of the Mythic maps) are free plus ODST "horde mode." Not bad imo. Halo 3 campaign feels dated these days so I hope the ODST campaign isn't too short. More is always better.
Anyway it's all about the Multiplayer baby.. ;)
I respectfully disagree mp is amazing but imho sp>online and in most cases if u built a great single player\gameplay,your online will always be better
Multiplayer IS where it's at. Anyone who says other wise are those who... well... usually aren't that great at it :\ I'm the type of gamer that will gladly take a game where I can compete against human beings rather than Artificial Intelligence (Unless I don't have a choice - Mass Effect, Prince of Persia, Resident Evil, You get the picture...) And Mass Effect is one of my favorite games so me not loving single player games is hardly the case but if a game has both, I usually opt more for competing against those with brains (And I mean that loosely ha). I mean look at the online numbers Halo 3 still produces. They still amaze me for how long it's been out.
I respectfully disagree. MGS4 had a great single player while the multiplayer sucked. Flame me if you want, but I hated it. Any game where I have to fight the controls online sucks. Single player doesn't have to set up the multiplayer. Cod4 had a decent single player, but better multiplayer as with WaW. I would probably say the same thing with Resistance 2. I thought R2 single player was okay, but the multiplayer was so much more fun.
If you were to take Halo's Single Player Campaign and their Online Multiplayer and sell them as 2 completely separate titles; yeah I'm sure some people would buy both but the "Online Multiplayer Only" title would greatly outsell the "Single Player Only". I'd bet my money very confidently on that.
that's why I said "in most cases" mgo was a disappointment,,I agree with you,R2's sp campaign while good but forgetable,R1 was much better than R2 imo,R2 feels SO COLD
I played it on normal when i fist got it on release but i have been back to the campaign with friends for some 4 player co-op legendery madness. So iv'e clearly got wayyy over around 5 hours playtime. Add the multiplayer into that and its many many days.
Ridiculous comments. Single player is something to experience from the world of Halo, to also be enjoyed through co-op with friends. Multiplayer is a competitive mode that challenges you with the smartest AI available - a real person, with ultimate replay value through achievements, modes, and ranking. Halo ODST is simply giving you an extension(albeit from a different view and time) of that awesome single player experience from Halo 3 with some maps to scratch that multiplayer itch but with the rest of the Halo 3 maps in case you never got the original Halo 3. $60, and worth every penny!
Okay N4G. You all must be drinking the purple meds if you think Halo 3's single player is the single driving force of sales. I can't take some of this sites members seriously, you business majors you. Lmao
I know really, this is a surprise to people?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH No depth if you ask me :P
So basically, just rent it, don't waste your money buying it unless you want the DLC. At least L4D2 has replayability.
I don't subscribe XBL, so the multiplayer is no use to me, but I've always been a huge fan of Halo's single player campaign/co-op campaign. I'll wait till the game is actually out before making up my mind, but if the single player campaign is too short - I'll skip this one. There's plenty of other games coming out this fall vying for my gamer dollar that will have a satisfying single player.
with crap graphics only possible on crapbox please fixme
aww!!!? shorter!!!?? that rip off!!!! that shame.
ODST will be a good game but it aint worth $60
oatmeal! wait, what?
but longer than MGS 4 ahahahahhaha
your logic is quite confusing, please elaborate mr pumpkin face
YEAH JEALOUSLY!!!!!! Spread in the "DVD CAPABLE 360°C MINI-FURNACE" owners head!
ummm every one saying it should be a expansion cause its soooooooo short...... but it has more gameplay hours than MGS4 ( using a ps3 exclusive because you ps3 fans hate halo ) so yeah this so called expansions has more gameplay than mgs 4 and a multiplayer that is still on of the best to date. and my 360 is a furnace and it does heat up my room after a while....but some reason i play it way way way more than my ps3...
Sigh.. I still believe this has to be priced as a $40 game instead of a $60 one, it's more of an expansion and basically you're just paying for the name x.x
Bit lame. They'll still charge £40 for it.
a one minute search on google shopping shows prices start at £29.73 ah good times, can't wait!
Even so, that's the same price as a normal game. Isn't this basically a big DLC on a disc?
oh so now normal priced brand new games don't cost 40 quid as you stated, and now now cost 29.73 now that you've been proven wrong. typical sony fan tart proven wrong and backing out of what he said. crappy counter act
If they released this at £100 i'd buy it. Getting it at amazon for £29 is a massive deal.
longer than mgs 4 in gameplay for sure though so im happy..plus new online.... anyone ever play MGO lol...dont
How did you get down to one bubble... *Reads completely unreleaated comment on MGS 4* Oh that's how. Oh I played MGO beta and hated but the demo was awsome, tense online action with good graphics and stunning gameplay. Halo 3 story is average, good with friends, more dull on your own especially that stupid girl who decides it would be fun to jump on to your viser and do a dance which SOMEHOW slows you down maybe she requires CPU power... but if that the case I don't remember ever seeing her crashing and requiring a restart so I doubt she Microsoft softwere.
Well that's cool with me. You get all the DLC as well as the Firefight mode and may be some other ingame goodies!
So it's going to be like 3 hours long?
Who honestly would buy this for Singleplayer...It's Halo. Does no one remember what made Halo popular? Multiplayer...I'm buying it for the multiplayer, singleplayer to me is just a plus.
Then why did I buy all the Halo games for the singleplayer then?
well everyone is entitled to their opinion. I bought and have always loved halo for its single player, prob why i like halo ce more because i like the single player. There are still people who enjoy a good story ( which is also why i liked dead space so much ) and no, it does not always mean we suck at multiplayer.
Halo 1 didn't have online or Live supports what's so ever and to be honest split screen is now primative for all I care I would rather play the game on my T.V in full screen rather then look at it in split screen and believe it or not that's the only way you could play it coop and competitive multiplayer. trust me multiplayer was not a big thing for the series until Halo 2 and no the PC version of the first game doesn't count because it was a lousy port as for the campaign being short did any moron actually believe it would be the same length as halo 3 considered that it's a ****ing expansion pack even bungie admitted before that it would be a 4 hour game max
Wait..ODST's 60 bucks!!! We'll I gotta admit it makes sense, they'll buy anythg with Halo on the cover
sony said the same thing about the playstation brand...
lol funny reply. i chuckles
I'll be sure to link back here when someone asks me what irony is.
Short just like Left 4 Dead. Beta Box 360: "Constantly testing betas of real full length retail games"
dont bash left 4 dead, its really rather good ON PC
has only 3 completely new maps, an extra mode, and your playing full price? well done well done first day buy hahahahahaha
ODST contains every multiplayer map ever released for halo 3 as well as forge,4 player co-op,brand new firefight mode and Halo Reach beta invite.So apart from the single player campaign, ODST is even more value IMO.And if you buy online, its only £27.
and 3 new multiplayer maps