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The Conduit sales update in Europe

Last weekend, it was reported that The Conduit was off to what most would consider a slow start in Europe. With the latest UK charts comes another sales update, although there still isn't any wonderful news to report.

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knox3829d ago

wow, it dropped off quick, i still think its a good game, dunno if it deserves the best sales but its getting like nothing right now

badz1493829d ago

was it ever any surprise? no,at least, I'm not surprised and I think many others aren't too

JokesOnYou3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

wrong reply

Smacktard3829d ago

The Conduit just wasn't really for me. The controls were amazing, but it didn't feel very polished. Like, I didn't want to play it, which is a bit of a shame since they absolutely nailed the controls. It's a shame it's not selling well though, since many companies are going to be basing their approach on sales of The Conduit, a game that wasn't received fantastically by critics.

JokesOnYou3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

I don't know anybody except one of the game store employee's near my house who has the game(I don't know too many wii owners to be honest)....from what he says the controls are spot on, he said the controls "feel" better than Halo. Its a shame the wii fanbase basicly ignores anything that doesn't have Mario or fitness theme in it. 3rd party Dev's are really going to think long and hard before considering the wii when looking to bring a big budget "hardcore" title to the platform...even with a huge install base.

JOY

N4g_null3829d ago

JokesOnYou if you have a Wii then you are part of the problem if you don't have a Wii then why are you even here?

What is a real shame is HD gamers don't care about good controls and if it is on the Wii it seems they just try their best not to play games on it from what I see. Well who knows what will happen this is a slow roll kind of thing. As soon as the internet forgets about the game things should pick back up.

Another thing is you never see 3rd parties talk about the good games on the Wii they always talk about some cooking game or some thing. The people here do the same. HVS should keep doing what they are doing. They have shown they are better at tech and actualy game play design now they just need some graphical style which is very possible with these guys.

JokesOnYou3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

"JokesOnYou if you have a Wii then you are part of the problem if you don't have a Wii then why are you even here?"

-huh?, No I do not personaly own a wii, I do know a few family members who own one and a couple of neighbors thats it, I doubt any of them are the type who even knows about this game. I don't know what your problem is with my post. Its not like I'm bashing the wii or something, on the contrary because I said from what I heard the game is actually very good as far as the controls go, which I would assume everything else is relatively good too which means on any other platform it would have done much better for an exclusive. So I'm just pointing out whats becoming more and more evident that good 3rd party games just don't interest the wii crowd which hurts the potential of future 3rd party titles of similiar variety coming to the wii. I'm not here blasting the wii but as long as theres a comments section I think its appropriate to discuss the subject in a rational manner and thats WHY I'm here. lol

JOY

N4g_null3828d ago

JokesOnYou you don't get what I'm saying. You are not even telling people about the game and then on top of that you are not going to buy the game for what ever reason. You know that is part of the problem.

Also the game mags don't want to actually be about gaming. They need HD and CGI to fill those games. Back when I was gaming you would tell any one even remotely interested in video games about every thing good on the system. The they decide what they want.

Gaming really is backwards right now that is all. The fans are actually hurting the cause. It's going to be funny when EA and activision are the only pubs left.

Good game!

JokesOnYou3828d ago

scissor_runner, oh OK I see what you're getting at but I don't own a wii, simply because the games like Zelda, Metroid, and Conduit that I would actually like to play are few and far between, also I own a very expensive HDTV, I wish nintendo had made wii HD capable so I feel like I'm getting the most out of my setup, the bottom line is the wii doesn't offer what I want in a console, sure there are a few games I'd like to play but I'm not going to buy it knowing I won't play it very often.

I do think as a gamer you should tell folks about the good stuff any console offers....but as I said I don't know too many wii owners and the few I do, I'm sure since they are mostly family members like my Aunts and younger cousins, I already know their not interested and I'm not the type to tell random people about games unless theres a general discussion related to the conversation going on, most of my friends aren't even remotely interested in the wii so nothing really to tell them about, however at work people know I'm a huge game fan and I give them honest game advise all the time.

JOY

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Anon19743829d ago

This game is just the most recent example of Wii games directed at the hardcore gamer that have met with mediocre or worse sales. Obviously Wii owners don't care. They want some more Cooking Mama, Mario spinoff and more Ravin Rabbids. This does not bode well for the long term sustainability of the Wii console. Nintendo had better be making some money of the hardware, because if there's no software sales it's a lost cause.
Oh well. At least Nintendo has the DS, which is where they make the bulk of their money anyway.

N4g_null3829d ago

What is even worst is if other developers are watching then why would they give up? Clearly the controls worked and the biggest complaint is the style being too generic. If you are a developer and you can not do better than generic then maybe you shouldn't be making console games.

Another thing is the developer see this and it proves to them that they should even bother with the motion controls on the HD console side for hardcore gaming the HD crowd is totally fine with what they have which is inferior control wise.

The console crowd is getting a little thin. Their seems to be only these casual gamers around right now. You can then break that down to graphic whores, collectors, fanboys, tech guys, people want a story more than a game.

If I wasn't sure I would say hollywood has beat gaming and made gaming more like hollywood than even PC gaming.

TheMART3829d ago

Only chance for Nintendo to get back some of the lost real gamer audience is by putting out a Wii HD ASAP with some great support.

Thats the only way. But then again, the gamers have said goodbye to Nintendo overall and many hate their current choice for the nongamer that much that they won't buy a Nintendo console again.

Maybe there is only one route for Nintendo now. Nongamers all the way.

ChickeyCantor3829d ago

"many hate their current choice for the nongamer that much that they won't buy a Nintendo console again. "

While there are actuall good games from third party developers...
yeah makes sense......../

TheMART3829d ago

I count only a few, that is House of the Death: Overkill and Madworld. And then yet again, they didn't sell.

Name me those:

AAA 3rd party games that have high review scores on Metacritic and sell well. Sell well as in more then a Million and stop calling the obvious COD that sold on its name alone and yet again 1 mln. on a 50 to 60 mln. userbase isn't still that great.

ChickeyCantor3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

AAA? who ever said AAA? I said good games.
Now AAA is only a legit way to say a game is playable?

And there is much more than those 2 titles you mentioned, i don't need to mention the others, you aren't looking good enough.

Im not even talking about sales, and sales prove jack about quality of a games.
Seriously think for a second, you are ignoring good games because:
1: you say Nintendo abandoned you...while there also third party developers out there.
2: Because games aren't selling well?
That doesn't even make sense at all, considering YOU ARENT BUYING THEM.
3: It must be triple A.

your hate for Nintendo must be huge, but the reason developers suffer on the Wii is also simple because the likes of you ignore the sh/t out of those games. While in facts you can actually enjoy them.

Shove those ratings and sales up your ...you know what you decide what hole, Sales and Ratings mean nothing to a person when he is actually enjoying a game.

Gr813829d ago

Bionic Commando belly flopped, I guess that means those type of games don't sell on HD systems? And since when was Conduit AAA? or Madworld or Overkill?

Bottomline is, if the big franchises were on Wii they'd sell, cheap cash in, low effort ports don't. Same could be said for the HD consoles, if its not a big budget title, it belly flops on the market. Same goes for Wii, PS2, SNES, flops on Wii don't matter anymore than flops on other systems..except companies that flop on Wii don't go the way of the dinosaur.

TheMART3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

Dude, the Wii is a fail for a real gamer, period. I own one, but it has more use softmodded to emulate all my old consoles then playing Wii games.

Its one big pile of shovelware.

Wii - 55 games on or above 8 out of 10
PS3 - 109 games on or above 8 out of 10

(they released at the same time)

360 - 155 games on or above 8 out of 10

(metacritic)

And most on the Wii above 8 out of 10 are the Mario's, Zelda's, RE4/Pikmin/Punch-Out whatever allmost identical rehashed old shiat. Thats pathetic.

@ Sidar

Its not because of 3rd party. Its because of Nintendo's choice to release a machine that can only do 480p with supercharged Gamecube hardware. Developers have moved to do more with their games that demand more horsepower. Gameplay is affected by the shortcomings of the Wii. And its shows in the number of quality games as pointed out above.

ChickeyCantor3829d ago

" Its not because of 3rd party. Its because of Nintendo's choice to release a machine that can only do 480p with supercharged Gamecube hardware"

Exactly, you are ignoring Third party games due the fact Nintendo didn't meet up with your demands.
But obviously you don't understand what im trying to say here.

N4g_null3829d ago

TheMART at Xboxkings WOW you own one and for some reason you are not part of the problem? How is that. I have to ask you did you buy this game? If you did not buy it then why are you complaining about the rest of the Wii fanbase when you are part of it?

Your own lack of support causes this yet this is probably your point. You want your FPS games on the HD system right so you will not support any thing on the Wii.

Or better yet you just don't have the money to buy it. I'm betting you also feel it is too inferior for you to play also?

Really Did you think it was going to be ok to say you own a Wii and then try and put down the fan base. There are at least 1-2 million Wii hardcore fans based on the sales of past games yet guys exactly like you are the reason for low sales.

You know this is good though. It's going to make developers push to get new gamers to play rather than the ones that love the tired stuff on the HD consoles.

Product3829d ago

Xmart when you gonna stop letting the marketing of microsoft or sony anal rape you? "Hardcore" gamers are just wannabe pc gamers. period. Most can't afford the type of machine that will give them the kind of graphics that would really amaze them, so they buy an hd console to compensate because marketing tells them so.

If the hd consoles marketing really is brainwashing you so bad that you think a hd console is the best in gaming for graphics or physics, you need a reality check. I'd rater play unreal 2004 or quake 3 on high settings than play halo 3 or killzone 2, anyday. Real "hardcore" gamers would agree with me.

hardcore hd console owners like you need to stop thinking that a mature themed, adult oriented game is the only type of game that is good. Honestly if you saw crysis or COD or Bioshock, etc. on a high end pc, you would stop thinking how great the hd consoles are.

Unless that is you are ignorant, because that is the only way you could think otherwise. Don't even get me started on the mods you can achieve on a pc.

TheMART3829d ago

@ Scissor & Product

Hahaha I wouldn't have the money to buy this game or a good PC rig? Ah yeah... Thats why I bought a PS3, a Wii and I own 2 x a XBOX 360 in setup to play co-op without split screen when I have someone over, a GHWT complete set, more hardware and tons of games, right?

And Scissor, mostly I won't buy a game that has an average rating of 6.9 or 7.0 at Metacritic (ATM the site is down but I saw the score just recently).

But I did buy and support House of the Death: Overkill and Madworld among other hardcore games for the Wii.

And product, no I don't mean only that hardcore games with guns and gore. I just mean good rated games overall. Look back on my post that points out the number of games on the Wii with 8 and above and on the PS3. Same time on the market, PS3 got double the amount of games that scored above an 8. If you look at the other end of the list on Metacritic you see that the Wii has around 85 games below a 5 out of 10 and the PS3 got 25 or so, being the same time on the Market.

And then just check in the top of the Wii games how much is rehashed, old IP stuff...

1 Super Mario Galaxy 2007 97
2 Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, The 2006 95
3 World of Goo 2008 94
4 Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2008 93
5 Rock Band 2 2008 92
6 Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition 2007 91
7 Okami 2008 90
8 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 2007 90
9 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 2009 88
10 Little King's Story 2009 87
11 Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure 2007 87
12 Boom Blox Bash Party 2009 87
13 Bomberman Blast 2008 86
14 Punch-Out!! 2009 86
15 Guitar Hero World Tour 2008 86
16 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 2007 86
17 Tetris Party 2008 86
18 MaBoShi: The Three Shape Arcade 2008 85
19 Super Paper Mario 2007 85
20 Guitar Hero: Metallica 2009 85
21 Boom Blox 2008 85
22 Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 2009 84
23 New Play Control! Pikmin 2 2009 84
24 Swords & Soldiers 2009 84
25 No More Heroes 2008 83
26 MLB Power Pros 2007 83
27 Mega Man 9 2008 83
28 WarioWare: Smooth Moves 2007 83
29 Bully: Scholarship Edition 2008 83
30 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 2008 83
31 Call of Duty: World at War 2008 83
32 Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 5: 8-Bit is Enough 2008 83
33 Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection 2008 82
34 Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 2: Strong Badia the Free 2008 82
35 Mario Kart Wii 2008 82

Allmost no new great scoring IP's!

Product3828d ago

When does scores actually matter to the real gamer?
I could care less about scores, if the game looks to be what im looking for, guess what I buy it.

Rehash or not, look at how diverse the genres are on Wii.
Go look at the list for the hd consoles are you'll understand why playing the same games on a pc would make more sense, graphics, physics, control. Then again most hd games are boring imo and none traditional. I don't know maybe you are younger than me, but graphics don't matter, I get just as much fun out of Mario Kart as I would with CoD.

N4g_null3828d ago

So TheMART at Xboxkings do you really let game ratings keep you from buying games? Really? WOW... So what did you think of madworld? Was it a 6 hour game to you and why did you not get NMH it did ok rating wise? Also if you only buy higher rated games then why did you not buy metroid? Oh yeah I forgot you don't like rehashes... so for you to buy metroid it has to be called COD: space pirate warfare.

If you do have metroid then that along would have made you buy the conduit sense we all wanted metroid multiplayer. Yet I'm betting you don't have any of the games on that list.

Gaming to me is more about the experience and that really can not be rated. The problem with a review is people like me don't think a review does a game justice because gamers all have different tastes. This is one thing the HD guys don't understand right now...

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Baka-akaB3829d ago

The pity is that the press hyped the title that much from the start , and that yes it will be used as an example , when quite frankly it didnt deserve good sales .

It always seems like a potential turd to me because , while featuring many fps's multiplayer features , a good wii 3d engine and lots of multiplayer , the game is damn too generic .

The art and design doesnt stand out , it looks like a crossbreed of fear or any usual fps . it got no edge and pull beyond the whole "oh my god the wii can do that too" kind of hype .

Second biggest problem , said graphics . When you build it up so much , people will expect to be astonished , and no they werent .
It "looks great ....for a wii game" . The for the wii game is a dead sentence , it should looks great period , and it doesnt break the mold for anyone used to pc/360/ps3 fps in anyway .
It's like expecting people to get wowed by the mini-cooper's powerhorse after they drove a ferrari for a couple years .

And finally the campaign itself isnt worth much neither , your pretty standard mileage , nothing bad but nothing great .

It's a solid effort , but dont build hype on a feature the game's platform could never compete with to begin . Especially when you dont even bother having a unique design .

ChickeyCantor3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

" And finally the campaign itself isnt worth much neither , your pretty standard mileage , nothing bad but nothing great . "

yeah cause every successful company today started out amazing...=/...
As a matter of fact HVS has made some games in the past people enjoyed very much. As for the Conduit it is a great effort, especially when its received pretty decent. Ya know what with all the games they have made in the past they did more than decent this time around.

"It's a solid effort , but dont build hype on a feature the game's platform could never compete with to begin . "
Point is the Wii can do them, that much is proven.
Its output power is something different.

heroicjanitor3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

Baka was spot on, and what you said made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

He never once gave out about the developers.

How did you get from " And finally the campaign itself isnt worth much neither , your pretty standard mileage , nothing bad but nothing great "

to

"yeah cause every successful company today started out amazing...=/... As a matter of fact HVS has made some games in the past people enjoyed very much. "

The whole point is the wii can't do the graphics of the ps3/360, that much is proven.

Smacktard3829d ago

Yeah Baka pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Although I didn't really notice how generic the art direction was while I was in-game. What irked me the most were the slow-downs and the uninteresting online.

ChickeyCantor3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

"he whole point is the wii can't do the graphics of the ps3/360, that much is proven."

No one is defending it can, nor is HVS denying they can't get the quality of those two consoles. It has been stated many times.
However the use of Tech is proven to work on the Wii, but like i said the output power is something different.

Normal maps? Yes, same quality as the Ps3/360 No.
No one is denying this.

As for the campaign i thought he said company, that one is my bad.

N4g_null3829d ago

heroicjanitor if sidar is leaping to defend the Wii then what are you doing?

If people are not impressed about the story and the graphics then cool. Yet tell me some one that even knows the story? Tell me some one who set up their control config and tried to survive online.

At best your trolling and it seems more likely to me that the EU is more about ads and review scores rather than playing the game. Maybe they will prove me wrong maybe not? That is understandable and because of that I'd expect more people to try this game a little later the same way they did with red steel yet this one will be fun.

The game still did pretty well for a game that the press did not even give a chance. Madworld got way better press but no one got it but this one was pretty much dumped on and it did better than most games like it on the Wii.

What is also funny is if you only problem was generic graphics then look at this game as a litmus test, the grinder is coming and I'm guessing the conduit two.

The engine obviously has some thing that retro needs to put their games over the top and from what I'm hearing they have tweaked the engine even more.

This was a good game and hey if EU doesn't buy it then cool. People with the game still support it and we got what we wanted. It is sort of like getting the girl you wanted and some loser running up to you to tell you that her movie did not sell LOL or some thing.

Either way if you don't want generic graphics then what do you want?
How could the story be better? Seriously the online is fine... I don't use gamer tags or some thing like it on the PC either.

It is also my understanding the the EU loves games from japan more also,... well the console market does.

asdr3wsfas3829d ago (Edited 3829d ago )

"It always seems like a potential turd to me because , while featuring many fps's multiplayer features , a good wii 3d engine and lots of multiplayer , the game is damn too generic .

The art and design doesnt stand out , it looks like a crossbreed of fear or any usual fps . it got no edge and pull beyond the whole "oh my god the wii can do that too" kind of hype."

Every FPS since Quake has been the same. Really, here's the game:

pistol
some sort of melee
machine gun of sorts
shotgun of sorts
plasma rifle
railgun
sniper rifle
grenade launcher
rocket launcher

Then Tribes added vehicles. Welcome to every FPS ever. The fact you said it looks like a crossbreed of Fear or "any usual FPS" betrays just how generic the genre is! You think the Unreal engire is that new or innovative? Unreal, Unreal Tournament, UT2003, and UT2004 were the same basic games (I played them all constantly)! Now you put Gears of War on top of that and it's somehow unique?

"Second biggest problem , said graphics . When you build it up so much , people will expect to be astonished , and no they werent .
It "looks great ....for a wii game" . The for the wii game is a dead sentence , it should looks great period , and it doesnt break the mold for anyone used to pc/360/ps3 fps in anyway ."

Yeah it does, I'm used to PC and I love this game. If you really bought this argument you would never play FPS games on 360 or PS3 cause the PC version is superior in every way. Dual analog sucks and even games like Halo 3 run at 640p natively without antialiasing. I would laugh if I saw anyone playing a PC FPS in that resolution. It's not even baby HD and lacks anti-aliasing but STILL can't get the PC sweet spot of 70fps.

My graphics card gets what, 8x AA? Better than true 1080p resolution? I can trade some of that for 60-70fps? Yet you're coming in here ragging on the wii compared to other consoles when those other consoles can't even approach that? My PC runs games so much higher res than an xbox360 that if you really believed this argument you'd never touch any console again.

"It's like expecting people to get wowed by the mini-cooper's powerhorse after they drove a ferrari for a couple years ."

The difference would be that the mini-cooper would have power steering and the ferrari doesn't, and the ferrari is also missing a tire and kinda circles around that side when you're going straight. The Conduit plays amazingly well. Dual analog is a joke for controlling FPS games. Hence why Halo has "aim assist."

"And finally the campaign itself isnt worth much neither , your pretty standard mileage , nothing bad but nothing great ."

Did you listen to the radio and find the hidden messages? They're more than half the story. There's no way the story is close to any other FPS if you actually looked.

"It's a solid effort , but dont build hype on a feature the game's platform could never compete with to begin . Especially when you dont even bother having a unique design ."

No FPS really is that unique since quake. Don't you ever play them?

Xbox 360 and ps3 can't compete with PC fps games in either controls or graphics...but I guess you could ignore that. Then only apply your argument to the wii. And you'd have a point.

Product3829d ago

@ oobob post

Im going to copy paste that post right there for every argument a hd console user has against the Wii.
For a pc user as myself as well i feel you in every aspect you just said. I have a feeling most hd console users don't play pc games, and or don't play pc games on a great machine.

heroicjanitor3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

It really is difficult to read all of that but the pc is better argument doesn't apply since consoles are different in nature, and I'm sure you know that too. Consoles are played in comfort in a living room so you aren't hunched over a monitor. The wii should be competing with the 360 and ps3 the pc is a non-issue since it is different. Even ignoring that Killzone's graphics and particle effects are up with the best pc has to offer.

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