Guerrilla to 'step back from Killzone 2'

Posting on the official European PlayStation Blog, Guerrilla Games producer Seb Downie has said the studio will take a break from Killzone 2 following the release of the game's third DLC pack, Napalm & Cordite.

[Xwow2008]

they will focus at their next game :)
still they supported KZ2 in a good way, much respect 2 guerrilla.

[Boody-Bandit]

I think most shooters can be labeled generic depending on the person giving their opinion. I have played almost every shooter that has come out this generation. It's all basically the same. Get from one area to the next and kill all that get in your way. I thought KZ2 was fantastic but that's just my opinion.

So do me a favor and humor me. Name a couple of shooters this generation that "you" feel isn't generic and give a brief explanation as to why you feel that way.

[PotNoodle]

The thing is though, the sales were not low at all. People are too obsessed with comparing games to other games.

[Time Lord]

Name me a shooter that has had more than 3 map packs?

[PotNoodle]

People are not allowed to disagree with you without being PS3 fanboys?

Yes, it is your opinion, people disagree with your opinion, hence the large amount of disagree's, that is the whole point of the Agree/Disagree system.

[Mr_Bun]

If you can't handle people disagreeing, maybe you shouldn't post

Edit: You are not new to this site....you can't be surprised when you post something negative regarding a high profile game and get a negative response.

[Boody-Bandit]

Fanboys in general are pathetic. All it takes is to p!ss off a couple with multiple accounts and they stick to you like ticks on a dear.

I know you are a PS3 fan but I just wanted to know what shooter you feel isn't generic. I didn't disagree or agree with you. I am just a huge shooter fan and I wonder what other shooter fans feel is generic vs innovative, compelling, original, enticing, etc and so on. Most shooters have meh stories. Then again that all comes down to individual opinions as well.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

TOO PAWNED:

Please try playing Killzone 2 before you label it generic. If anything, the controls themself should make it un-generic.

[Pennywise]

Too Pawned. You are getting disagrees because you are stating things with the same attitude that Silogon would use. If you want to bash sales, provide sales numbers. Being KZ2 is @ almost 3 million if not over is not bad IMO.

KZ2 is now in the best console bundle on the market. Sales for this game will skyrocket. I respect your opinion, but respect mine when I tell you I think your opinion is crap.

[originalrece]

im mad that i have to pay 10 bucks for 2 maps an 2 guns thats bs... i already bought the two other map packs.... GG can u please come out with a seperate pack like wth iv already spent alot of money on the other dlc... now need to get another psn card for this map pack an the new zombie maps comin out in august....

[jeseth]

How come you didn't answer the original question posted to you by brutally honest? Probably because you can't name a shooter that isn't "generic" and therefore would nullify your claims to why KZ2 wasn't very goof to you.

So according to you the game that not only brought the best graphics this gen, amazing bullet detection and reaction, physics, and sound but also introduced the evolving online MP match is not innovative?

The only thing I hope all FPS's take from KZ2 is their online MP match setup. One match involving 5-7 small matches constantly changing from TDM, Assassination, Domination, "Capture the Flag", and so on is awesome and forces every player on each team to work together or else you get smoked in KZ2. No little campers just hiding in spots constantly looking for kills while the team they are on is losing because they can't do anything but camp.

If KZ2 didn't do anything for you this gen then nothing probably will buddy and nothing probably has for 5 years or so. KZ2, like all FPS, are generic in nature. But KZ2 at least raised the bar in Graphics, Sound, Physics, and Online Multiplayer.

So why don't you answer Brutally Honest's first question and enlighten us on which FPS is so innovative and groundbreaking?

[ultimolu]

I hope it's an action/adventure game but I won't mind if it's another shooter. After Killzone 2...my mind was just blown.

I just hate that stupid Radec...*shakes chibi fist*

Oh, and don't mind TOO PAWNED...I think he woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

EDIT: http://www.gamecareerguide....

You're welcome lowcarb.

Pennywise said it's almost three million, not that it's three million.

[lowcarb]

"If you want to bash sales, provide sales numbers. Being KZ2 is @ almost 3 million if not over is not bad IMO."

Practice what you preach. Link please on those numbers?

edit Too pawned: You really shouldn't worry about people that disagree with you. The only reason they do it is because they don't like to hear the truth or lies. Heck I think N4G should award people for collect agrees and disagrees.

Edit ultimou: You sure were quick to defend penny lol. I take it she's one of your multi accounts. Anyways I wasn't talking to this account it was penny's. KZ2 isn't even at 1.5 million yet so yeah your welcome too.

[heroicjanitor]

How do you know it is around 3 million? I would've thought around 2 million but it deserves more

[Nineball2112]

I know it's VGChartz... but they have KZ2 at 1.74 million.

So, 3 million is high, but it is around 2 million.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

[Pennywise]

Okay, 3 mil is high... I knew I would catch heat from that. With the bundle I give it 3-4months and it will be at 3mil.

BUT 2 million is hardly a number to say: IT SOLD POORLY.

That is everyones problem with the original comment from Sil-Too Pawned.

[ultimolu]

Really, I insist...you should stop right now. Sony said that Killzone 2 sales exceed 1 million. What does that tell you?

I only reinforced what Pennywise said.

He wasn't wrong.

And I cannot figure out how two million is bad for a first party game. And don't give me that crap about hype because the reason why KZ2 was hyped is because of the fact it was a proven title of which exceeded the first game.

[SuperM]

"I couldn't care less if someone disagrees with me, i just find it stupid to disagree because someone states his opinion"

Then WTF is the disagree button for? You can state your opinion but that doesnt mean people have to agree with you... jeez your ridiculous

[Nineball2112]

No, I agree with you Pennywise. But you know how it is around here... You gotta give good numbers or the topic goes off on a tangent.

:D

I have no doubt that GG, Sony, AND PS3 owners are all extremely happy about KZ2's success.

[SoapShoes]

@ lowcarb: You say practice what you preach but then you go and give no links to your 1.5 mil claim. Oh and VGChartz is not a reliable source. I find it funny how with you fanboy haters, it's always the truth with you and that's why people are disagreeing. Hypocritical in the highest extreme.

@TOO PAWNED: Yeah KZ2 is generic all right. /sarcasm. I guess you think Generic Warfare 2 is going to be one of the best games this holiday huh? Was COD4: Generic Warfare a great game too? LMFAO!!!!!!!! Also if KZ2 sold so poorly that doesn't say much for other games as it was the best selling PS3 game of '09 so far.

[lowcarb]

"And I cannot figure out how two million is bad for a first party game."

Who said anything about 1.5 million being bad? I know i sure as heck didn't.

"I only reinforced what Pennywise said.

He wasn't wrong."

He wasn't right either so what's your point? Heck your guessing yourself lol. None of us no the exact figure so cool it.

"And don't give me that crap about hype because the reason why KZ2 was hyped is because of the fact it was a proven title of which exceeded the first game."

KZ1 might of sold well but was far from proven. Part two has made the franchise proven so please quit already.

edit estranged: Yeah you got me there but in this same post above I made it clear that none of us no the actual number so good try.

"I find it funny how with you fanboy haters, it's always the truth with you and that's why people are disagreeing. Hypocritical in the highest extreme."

Nobody said it's the truth but you. Thanks for being honest.

[SoapShoes]

@ Lowcarb: Straight out of your mouth, "The only reason they do it is because they don't like to hear the truth or lies." so tell me again about, "Nobody said it's the truth but you." because I would very much like to hear the words from your forgetful mind. :)

Also if no one knows the actual numbers like you said, then stop throwing numbers out there.

[pixelsword]

When you say "People are tired of generic shooters" when referring to Killzone 2, the ONLY game this or any generation to have a full cover system in 1st person, you'd better have a list of games and reasons for why each game isn't generic to prove your point. The fact that Brutallyhonest asked you to provide a list and you still didn't give one only further justifies the reasons people may have given you disagrees. What baffles me is how you think the controls are "broken and annoying" when you don't list anything specific.

After getting numerous high scores from multiple sources, especially from sites who traditionally and systematically rate PS3 games lower, you state such garbage without giving reasons. That's what people are disagreeing with, you lack of reasoning in handling your own opinion. To be blunt, one thing you have to realize is that if you have the right to give an opinion, people have the right to disagree with it; so opinion comes with that responsibility. You wanted to sow to the wind by using generic copy-and-paste complaining with our justifying your reasons, don't be surprised that you reaped the whirlwind.

[likedamaster]

You were foolish to even post on a ps3/killzone 2 post, let alone something negative about it. LOL. You know ps3ers are insecure about their console and games, why go there. You know they run this place.

On topic/
Killzone 2 was by far the fastest to drop 3 map packs this gen. Just saying.

[ultimolu]

And...you were proven wrong lowcarb.

Thanks for playing.

[evrfighter]

"And...you were proven wrong lowcarb.

Thanks for playing. "

That coming from someone who was all but crying because a pro M$ article yesterday made sense is hysterical.

[ultimolu]

Zzzz...

I'm sorry but were you saying something? I must have dozed off. Sorry for that dude. :)

[evrfighter]

lol wtf? are we back in the 5th grade?

There's a butthurt stench comin off you. Might wanna get yourself checked out.

[topdawg122]

They put out some great dlc and fast and were quick with complaints about controls as well. Great job guerilla can't wait for KZ3!!!

[Shepherd 214]

Im not approving of TOO PAWNED, however, Halo 3 has released three map packs, a free single map download, and an expansion and fourth map pack will be available this fall, two years after the games release. Throw in the fact that Bungie updates, rotates, and changes the multiplayer playlists every single month, and holds special events from time to time for its players. Id say thats supporting the game wouldnt you?

Gears of War 2 also has had three map packs, with the fourth map pack, Dark Corners, available very soon.

[TOO PAWNED]

Bring new IP.
Kz2 is all flesh no substance when it comes to single player.
The most generic characters, story and single player possible! I am not MP guy so KZ2 was big disappointment for myself.

[leila01]

Really?
I LOVED the single player. It's the multiplayer I didn't like (I was getting owned constantly buy rocket launchers and turrets).

[Xulap]

Those damn turrets always giving me headshots.
They're too powerful... And I never can even mount one before it gets destroyed!

Mm, now that I think about it, I haven't played Killzone in like a month or more.
I'll get back to it when the new map pack releases. Hopefully today!

[PotNoodle]

I loved the single player, but it was the multiplayer i loved most and knew i would love it from the closed beta late 2008.

[nycredude]

And what is call of Duty, Bad Company, and every other shooter out there. The same as Killzone 2 except without the flesh...

[TOO PAWNED]

RICO has to be the most generic, and annoying video game character EVER and least in 09.
GG played too much of Gears of War, characters were lame copy of Gears dudes, and i hate them, but when there is a copy of them that is even lamer, BEYOND lame.
All those lame one liners and F words and cursing, ughhh

[MEsoJD]

^_^Stop B1tching^_^

[SevWolf]

Too Pawned: "GG played too much of Gears of War, characters were lame copy of Gears dudes"...LOL!! Yeah, you're right Sev, which is a great character, is a copy-paste of Marcus, which is also a great character, I loved the way they would joke around, you would know what I mean if you listen and watched deeply, like the way Natko, Garza, Jeffrey(ISA), and sometimes Sev would joke around like how the military do to calm themselves down from the war

[RAAAAAGE]

the characters did suck, but the gameplay is good.

[Pennywise]

I curse in RL, so Rico didnt offend me. I would think soldiers in the field would curse a storm up.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

Gears of Wars or Halo are much more generic than Killzone 2.

KZ2 has the best online gameplay too, by a long shot.

[raztad]

Whoever thinks GG copied Gears characters never played KZ1. Rico is there and always was the same annoying d!ck.

KZ2 is a really awesome FPS. Far from generic it's pretty unique. From its unique gameplay (present in KZ1 too) to its unique visuals, there is not other FPS like KZ2 in the market.

[FF7numbaone]

I was kinda anyoyed with rico, like him better in killzone 1.

[Double Toasted]

Whats so unique about it? KZ2's online is boring after you get the highest ranking...

[raztad]

@above

First of all KZ2 is not a twitchy shooter. That is a HUGE plus for me, and makes it diferent from other arcade FPS. Second, its cover system in first person, totally different than other offerings like R6:Vegas. Third, its AI makes every replay a different game, helghast are no cannon fodder. They fight and figh hard and smart. Its setting, that "dull" environment called Helghan, I havent seen any game like that before, at least, not with this high fidelity.

Now talking about online. I still remember the time (playing on PC) when you used to play just to have fun owning someone else azz, not to get a rank or a Trophy. Anyway, it's just a matter of taste.

[freitox]

I didn't like the single player as well, imo there are much better ps3 exclusives out there, get freaking uncharted instead of kz2 if you are into single player games, or infamous!!that game is awesome : D or MGS4!EPIC!

[PshycoNinja]

If I remember correctly Killzone 1 came out before the original Gears. Rico was in the first, Templar was in the first, and Visari was in the first. If anything Epic Games got their insperation of Coletrain from Rico.

[TheTwelve]

....step into Killzone 3.

12

[ultimolu]

...If Killzone 2 managed to scramble my brains, Killzone 3 may just turn it into dust. :o

[CobraKai]

I hope they blow the lid open in the killzone universe for part 3. Take the war to different planets. Start in Helghan and end in Vekta.

[rukia_chan]

killzone 3 anyone???? \o/

[ultimolu]

KILLZONE 3 FTW.

ONLY ON THE PS3. \o/

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

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+ On my last comment(about KZ2 DLC Pack)i said -

£9.99 is cool;)
Hopefully now they will move on and make -

KILLZONE 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-P ;-P ;-P

AHH...they must listen to me!!! ;-D The POWER of Sir Ken is Strong!!! ;-D

[Kill Crow]

more people will buy KZ3 than the 12 people who bought KZ2

[she00win99]

yeah, it's also the same 12 people who gang bang your mother..

[CaitSith]

xD

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Wow, nothing like a little KZ2 article to get the 360 owners all defensive.

After seeing how much GG have progressed w/ just the map packs, I can't wait to see how much improved a KZ3 would be. That map beach head is frickin crazy - there are so many effects going on around you at once, you really feel like your in the middle of a storm. You can see the wind swirling blowing the rain around, sparks flying everywhere, smoldering fires and smoke, one of the most impressive MP maps I've ever played.

[Kleptic]

didn't GG already state they were in the beginning stages of killzone 3 development?...

2 years from now Killzone 3 will be imminent I would bet...the tech is already there...they could change nothing of that engine and still have one of the best looking console games of the generation...story wise though; there is plenty of room for improvement and further development...

the game director from GG stated in the tech interviews just before killzone 2 released that 'next time' they were looking into completely dynamic enemy reactions...meaning you could shoot an enemy in the arm and have that part of his body disabled in real time...causing him to drop the weapon, pick it back up with the other arm, and attempt to keep firing at you...the enemy response system in killzone 2 is already WAY ahead of ANY shooter right now...nothing comes close to the tech in killzone 2 in this department...can't wait to see that improved even more...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

More than 12 people bought Killzone 2, it's more like 13 now, and 3 others got it with the PS3 bundle.

[xcox]

killzone 2 obliterated the whole 360 lineup,
killzone 3 will just poop on the few remaining survivors

best online shooter this gen,
cry xb!tches

[Kill Crow]

with ultra realistic controller delay for the reall FPS queens out there !!!!

[John Kratos]

I wouldn't mind seeing GG make a new game. Something more story focused. Think if they used that engine they could create some amazing atmosphere. Plus KZ2 wasn't the most amazing game I've played.

[SevWolf]

Actually if you think about it Killzone 2 had a great story, but like you said it wasn't "story focused" I hope there next game shows the story more, cause it's apparent that they have very talented writers

[raztad]

KZ's story is a continuous flow. As SevWolf said they have talented writers ans I agree. KZ1 was the beginning of a big story still unfolding. You need to play/read what happened in KZ1, to understand KZ's story big picture. Who the Helghans are and why they are fighting that war.

[dirthurts]

Like it was kind of generic myself. Very similar to the original, which I guess is the idea.
I dunno. It looked good, but the action didn't really get me going till near the end.

[Solotov]

It doesn't make sense for them to flush more money down the toilet on this game. They have to look forward.

[Pennywise]

Down the toilet? Please explain how producing a product that customers buy is flushing money down the toilet?

And dont even bring up the 50mil which I am sure Sony recouped by now. They created an engine that I can guarantee you will see in future Sony exclusives.

[ukilnme]

I absolutely loved the single player myself. Don't care too much about the multiplayer.

Edit: I wish they would have created some single player DLC.

[Nelson M]

You Deserve it !!

[Zalohuw]

First off GG did not copy gears with their characters and especially not RICO. He was in the first game and he acted pretty much the same way.

[xtremeimport]

they released 3 map packs fairly quickly, maybe a little overpriced IMO but still was done. they have been working on this game for quite some time now, I thought they would've spread out the map pack release dates to stretch out the life of the game, but I enjoy it either way. Go make another badass game for the Ps3!

[xionpunk]

My only problem with KZ2 was Rico. I mean that guy was such an @sshole.
I knew what was coming at the end of the game and I was like, "Rico, NO NO don't you gad damn do it... dammit Rico!.

[ultimolu]

Don't even get me started on Rico...-_-

I wanted to punch him with my gun.

[Arnon]

I KNOW. My friend and I always commented on how immature he was whenever he would state something.

[vShinobi]

not really a bad thing we have 3 map packs already and the last patch fixed just about every problem the online had so let them take a break it means those who haven't purchased any DLC will be able to save up.

[Dellis]

I am sure they are contracted for KZ3 already

[Ravage27]

they did say there were some features that didn't make it in KZ2, so i'm guessing they already started work on KZ3 around the time KZ2 launched. GG pls add splitscreen support for KZ3, i know there's a loading issue with the engine but still...

[DroN4eG]

\o/ Can't wait for this game!
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/ \ YUUHUU!!

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

I knew we wont see co-op,right.I understand that.but,vehicles in MP? Im :( now.I cant believe some of you are happy with this,didnt we ALL expect vehicle maps at some point? . . . .

[free3sixty]

like verybody said, this game will be forgotten after 6 months MAX.

Hell, if i look on halo3, omg.. it still gets support, thats why halo will always have a name.

and killzone never had a name, it still doesnt has one and also in the future it wont sell good.

[Tinted Eyes]

move on to the better exclusives that came out on the 360 in 2009!

oh wait......
you had none

[Pennywise]

Well when you have Halo which is one out of only two good exclusive shooters on the console, of course you are going to get continued support. Look at live activity reports... Halo, old as dirt... still #1. Does that tell you Halo is the greatest shooter ever or 360 needs more games? I go with the latter.

[talltony]

Quit the fanboyism

[talltony]

If you have ever played killzone 2 then you would not have made that childish remark. If you like cod then you will love killzone 2. Take it from a hardcore cod4 player with over 63000 kills, killzone absolutely owns! Especially with the addition of the new controls.

[Kleptic]

killzone 2 is hardly 'forgotten'...nor will it be...there are new online players weekly by the thousands...and it still averages over 100k players a day...not bad for an 'unknown' game...

its the clan system that is keeping it going...no other game touches killzone 2 in this area...as more people see how easy clan matches and tournaments are, it grows exponentially...

todays DLC won't hurt anything either...especially with a bundle packed in as well...

your entire reply is broken...no exclusive fps on the PS3 has died yet...not even close...RFOM still has a massive following...as does Resistance 2...as does MGO...even UT3 still has regular games available to play, and still has live dedicated servers that are not available on the 360...what has died is over rated crap that 360 kids made a big deal about...like R6 Vegas and Vegas 2...no one plays that anymore, nor should they...

[ps12&3lover]

galo3 still gets support cuz its the only game ya have to play lol....dats sad..have fun playing galo..ill be playing mgs4..infamous..kz2..lil big plantet with 1million levels now..resistance 2..and in oct drake 2..hey by than maybe 360 will finally have a game out lol,,,,so sad lol

[RockmanII7]

So your only playing mgs4, infamous, kz2, lil big planet and resistance 2(while getting U2) while I am playing Halo 3, GTA4, Gears 2, Orange Box, Mass effect, Assassins Creed, Mass effect, and Rock Band 2 (while getting ODST, L4D2, and Shadow Complex) and your calling me sad. You sir, are Fail.

[themyk]

So your only playing mgs4, infamous, kz2, lil big planet and resistance 2(while getting U2) while I am playing Halo 3, GTA4, Gears 2, Orange Box, Mass effect, Assassins Creed, Mass effect, and Rock Band 2 (while getting ODST, L4D2, and Shadow Complex) and your calling me sad. You sir, are Fail.

dude try reading the comment again. but this time do it with your thinking cap on.

i think we can still play gta4, orange box, assasins creed, and rock band. don't be a fool. your putting multi plats into a exclusive conversation.

[donnie-2105]

i think GG will be taking stock of the fairly poor sales of killzone2 espicially considering the 5year dev /massive budget.it has only sold 750,000 copies in the us in its 6 mths on release which is very poor nowadays with the high production costs.id like to see them make a multi platform(ps3/360) game and improve the gameplay of their fps now the pressure with regards visuals is off BUT can they do this with limited time/budgets.anyway i think they could get amazing results out of the 360s straightforward archeitecture if sony lets them go independent

[nycredude]

Donnie stop talking out of your ass. There is nothing wrong the gameplay of Killzone 2. If you are going to troll make some sense...

To act like the game would be better if they made it on the xbox because of the architecture is a fanb0y statement but judging by your constant bashing in previous comments it's no surprise. It's also indicative of you ignorance that you think Sony would "let" GG go independant, since Sony OWNS GG.

Fact is the game is good and the graphcis are great. It is their first PS3 game so their next will be better (see UC1 and then UC2). And once again someone quoting NA sales "only" as if sales outside of NA doesn't count. I guess the money made on from the other countries are fake money right?

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

first off all they sold 840,000 in the US but global sales 1,74 million which is still a pretty damn good number second why would Sony let GG go independent really why you have no valid reason to say Sony should let them go independent and even if they did Killzone is still owned by Sony what you want them to sell the rights as well and thirdly have you even played KZ2 from the demo alone i can see it's controlls are superb the only real problem is you have to get use to controll scheme and even that is barley a minor problem GG made a great game and they don't have to reflect on sales for a game with barley any ads it did good and will keep selling especially now with the new PS3 , MGS4 & KZ2 bundle

[mcgrawgamer]

ripping too pawns head off did anyone actually read the article? In the article he said they have been working non stop and after the new dlc will take a step back i.e rest and reflect on what they've done. that's not to say they aren't gonna start on kz3 and that's not say they are done with kz2.

so too pawned didn't like the game that's his opinion. I loved the game that's my opinion I'm not gonna disagree with everything too pawn puts in the comments because his opinion doesn't reflect mine. I'm a democratic ps3 gamer and I know other ps3 gamers have different taste. The rest of you communistic ps3 gamers need to get a life and understand that just because we prefer the playstation brand doesn't mean we all have to think and act alike, like some kind of army of playstation worker ants that have to love any and everything playstation.

[BlackPrince 42]

For your next game hire some professional writers to fix the awful dialogue and characterization you put in your games. Nothing personal guys, you're just no Amy Hennig. In fact, why don't you borrow her for a few weeks from Naughty Dog.

And it wouldn't hurt for your next game to give your concept artists and level designers a chance to make colorful interesting levels as opposed to gritty black and brown ones. Maybe a shooter set in the land of Oz where you're a highly trained munchkin who leads a group of lollipop kids to overthrow the oppressive Wizard.

What with Sev being like 4 feet tall when you're playing him anyway it's not like you have to change much am I right?

[Figboy]

it could easily mean they just want to take a break and observe the industry for signs of what's next.

it could also mean that they may be leaving the FPS genre for a bit, and moving onto another genre (an action/adventure game or rpg using the Killzone 2 engine? *head explodes!*).

i mean, Guerrilla Games HAS been living and breathing Killzone since the first game, and maybe they just need a vacation.

whatever their next project is, however, i can't wait.

maybe they'll make a PSN title using the KZ2 engine and release it next year in between their next big projects (whether it's Killzone 3 or something else remains to be seen).

[Mr_iClu7ch]

Halo 3 stills get supported 2 years later...

Killzone is so bad.

[Double Toasted]

why they would want to "step back", people need these kind of goodies until the next game comes out...

[iTzNath]

Halo has only had 3 map packs in two years (heroic, legendary and mythic) whilst killzone has had 3 in 6 months

[Arnon]

Lol?... Didn't the 3 Halo map packs come with like.. a sh*t ton of content, though? The Killzone 2 map packs are made up of like, 2 maps each.

[Enigma_2099]

... you practically describe 99.9% of all FPS on the market. I mean how many of them do you have to play before you admit to that?

[MriownBOTH]

damn the sucks.....cod WAW has already had like 10 news maps and some more on the way.

poor killzone.....should have made the online better

[Socomer 1979]

Killzone 2 is really about the only game ive been playing this whole summer & I have alot of games!

Love everything about it. Its SO Smart !

[SoapShoes]

I'll bet you liked Generic of Duty 4 and are extremely excited about Generic Warfare 2? :D LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Also if KZ2 sold so poorly, that doesn't say much about every other game out there(Resident Evil 5, SF4, etc) because KZ2 was the best selling PS3 game in America for '09 so far.

[PsYcHoToE1]

And a well deserved break, they have been awesome in supporting the game!!!

[Coolrah]

I loved KZ2. Everything about was good. I actually cared what happened to Sev..(I wanted Rico to die) But other then that it had a good story....It was sad to see templar die :(....I also think the story was lost on alot of people as you needed to play the first 1 to really feel engaged in the story....(Just like Halo) But seriously Guerilla supported this game well with Map packs and the extra juicy updates. Its perfectly fine that they may want to get out of the shooter genre for abit and try somethin new. Just imagine a new RPG or a Action/Adventure game with kz2 graphics and physics....(Jizz in pants)

oh and to the kz2 haters. You really have to consider kz2 a new ip considering it was GG first run on the PS3 and they did fairely good. Secondly the US is in a depression and the ps3 doesn't have a really big fanbase in the US. So 750k+ is pretty good in the country your losing the worst in. Plus we also don't know if this game was a system seller or not as we don't have Console data from Pal regions or other areas besides japan. So this game could have done really well in other countries.

[donnie-2105]

NO ITS NOT considering it took 5 years to make/massive budget those figures are terrible for 6months sales(in the worlds biggest market).gears2 sold 2.5million in a wk-end.plus gears1 sold far more with a lot less install base than the ps3 has now.i do think k2 is a decent game though

[GoodSpeed]

People always rip into video games that have characters that cuss and talk trash constantly. Fact of the matter is, that's exactly how the military is. All sh!t talk, all the time. I beg one of you to get enlisted and then tell me it isn't cussing and hollering damn near 24/7. Especially from NCO's. Go to basic training and listen to the drill sergeants. They're in your face all day screaming and cussing. It's the nature of the military, and if you think it's gay that's your problem. But portraying soldiers like that in a game is spot on.

[SRuN4]

Kinda figured this would happen after they announced the DLC bundle. They usually don't do DLC bundles for games until they're done with the DLC.

[mario888]

K2 is the best online shooter right now for those of you who consider yourself a skilled FPS gamer. Killzone 2 requires practice and tactics to play competitively in Tournament Clan Battles. For those COD Players who complain about the controls. This game does not have a lot of Auto Aim and the gun jumps so you can't use any mod controllers. So you either learn how improve your Eye & Hand coordination or just go back to whomever pulls his gun up first wins.

[Arnon]

Lol.

[mario888]

You laugh because you don't understand why Killzone is the best FPS shooter out right now. I can also tell by your statement 31 below about how K2 only has 10 ranks in the ENTIRE game, medals and ranking are useless is because you are a noob gamer.

I wonder if you ever played competitively online? Killzone Clan Battles is where this game take it to the next level and if you weren't a such NOOB you would understand where I was coming from instead of laughing with no comment.

Please continue to play Killzone and I hope you buy all the map packs. We need gamers like you to support Killzone because there will always be more gamers like you then gamers like me.

FYI: All games have a certain amount Auto Aim Assist. It's just COD has so much it very easy for someone to just pick up and start killing.

My son is very good at K2 and like me he will not play COD.
His friends come over all the time and all they want to do is play COD4 and COD WAW. When they first came over and he was playing K2 online and he made it look very easy. But once they picked up the controls they realized it not as easy to aim like COD they quickly asked to him to put in COD. Out of ten kids only 2 went out a bought Killzone 2.

COD is a Noob game and there are more Noobs FPS gamers out there that will always just want to pick a game up and play, or they lack the skill to play K2 or are just too lazy to practice and improve their eye and hand coordination.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

hmm taking some R&R who could blame them spending years making KZ2 and than go make 3 DLC 1 after the other they deserve some rest

[Shadow017]

Anyone wanna hit me up played for 3weeks now in killzone 2 top 6% already if that's good . Im also a hardcore cod 4 player and went to killzone just feel more real and skilled, 55gold cross with 2.07kill/death ratio

[Rhezin]

go back to COD4.

[NegativeCreep427]

like Earth and Thunder or Light and Darkness?

Just as well. The 3 packs up to this point have been good and the sooner KZ3 hits my PS3, the better!

[orange-skittle]

They need to stay at work and fix the clunky controls, because releasing new maps means jack sh!t if the game is annoying to play.

The only thing I commend them on is all the love they showed their fans because Infinity Ward could give a rats ass about players. They have only released "1"...count it on one hand....ONE map pack since the relase of COD4. Can you f-ckin' believe that. It's the #1 most played game online, #1 selling FPS, and most anticipated game this year and they gave the last version 1 map pack. Talk about a big F-CK YOU!

[mario888]

Please explain why the controls are clunky.

I have mine set to just above 50% for x and y axis. I also have my controls set to Altenat 2 which is COD button lay out.

FYI: K2 is not made to pull your gun up and shoot like COD. And if you think your going to just stop pull your gun up and pop you are going to get owned at close distances.

[mario888]

K2 is the best online console shooter right now for those of you who consider yourself a skilled FPS gamer. Killzone 2 requires practice and tactics to play competitively in Tournament Clan Battles. For those COD Players who complain about the controls. This game does not have a lot of Auto Aim and the gun jumps so you can't use any mod controllers. So you either learn how improve your Eye & Hand coordination or just go back to whomever pulls his gun up first wins in COD.

[pumpkinpunker]

For an alleged Halo Killer app they sure as heck aren't supporting it like Bungie still supports Halo 3 to this day. Yet again, everyone wants to talk smack against Halo but still no one wants to step up and match Bungie punch for punch.

I should hope that KZ2 is the last "Halo killer" for awhile.

[Morituri]

Says raztad: "Now talking about online. I still remember the time (playing on PC) when you used to play just to have fun owning someone else azz, not to get a rank or a Trophy. Anyway, it's just a matter of taste."

You hit the mf'n nail right on the head.

Preach on in righteousness breddrin.

[yorkie]

Best FPS ever in my book, the controls are excellent and can be highly customised the single player campaign was superb and varied the graphics are unmatched and the skill level required to compete online is very high, while I am about average on Killzone 2 when going back to other FPS I finish in the top 3 every time without too much effort, that is probally why a lot of people can't take to Killzone 2 they dont like to get their arses kicked and flock back to the easy pickings offered by other games. Gamers today dont seem to like too much of challenge.

[air1]

why not, everyone else did ;)

[Gamer_Z]

i thought Killzone was generic but thats just my opinion. it didn't do anything mind blowing but few games do these days.

[badbond1]

is the shiznit. Have all the maps myself! Happy about supporting a "AAA" quality game!

[i_zamorak_i]

i see your lack of good 360 shooter games still keep you on hal0000....
sad, but anyways, killzone is for greatly skilled shooters, i can see why you would rather stick with hal000..
this "forgotten" game is great !!!!! and 3 will be better.

[mario888]

Sadly Air1, I will agree with you but as long as Killzone 2 sells enough they will make a Killzone 3. Gaming has indeed changed. Noobs like Air1 will always gravitate to Noob games COD.

FYI: All games have a certain amount Auto Aim Assist. It's just COD has so much it very easy for someone to just pick up and start killing. My son is very good at K2 and like me he will not play COD.

His friends come over all the time and all they want to do is play COD4 and COD WAW. When they first came over and he was playing K2 online and he made it look very easy. But once they picked up the controls they realized it not as easy to aim like COD they quickly asked to him to put in COD. Out of ten kids only 2 went out a bought Killzone 2.

COD is a Noob game and there are more Noobs FPS gamers out there that will always just want to pick a game up and play, or they lack the skill to play K2 or are just too lazy to practice and improve their eye and hand coordination.

[i_zamorak_i]

i can disagree with you "lowcarb" cause that's why i have to option for my opinion. and the helpful button.

and kz3 ftw!!!!!!!

so if rico was first than gears.... that means that they copied...?
hahaha so....

[Arnon]

Lets be honest here.. I love Killzone 2, but it's not the "OMG MOST AMAZING SHOOTER THAT FELL OUT OF JESUS' BUTT!" There's nothing about it that makes it stand out from any other shooter other than some pretty lighting and nice textures.

It had an extremely generic storyline, with some sub par dialog. It was so-so all around. Multiplayer was pretty awesome, but after you've played through the same maps 40 million times, you realize you're not doing anything different. There's only 10 ranks in the ENTIRE game, and they all can be achieved within a few days. Half of the medals you are able to obtain are only useful in obtaining experience points, which again, is useless due to the fact that you can obtain every rank in the game in a matter of 3 days or so.

I have one thing that I absolutely love and still do about Killzone, and that was the cloaking.

The way some of you comment, it's like you've never played a shooter before.

[yorkie]

Well I've been playing video games for over 20 years and I can say Killzone 2 is, for me, head and shoulders above every other shooter. I do find the 'generic' statements quite ridiculous every shooter is 'generic' they have to be to keep you on a path towards your objective and as for sub par dialogue !!! come on dont tell me the gameplay was ruined because you didn't find the dialogue awe inspiring. And whats with the addiction to ranks and medals I play games that excite me, not for some little trophy,experience points or medals and ranks. There aren't many shooters I haven't played and none of them match the level of intensity, sound, difficulty level, balance of gameplay, variety or graphics in one package and thats what makes Killzone 2 special it does everything and does it brilliantly.

[caseylakes]

@Time Lord, Halo 3 has 4 map packs, soon to be 5 (or 4.5, reason being it is part of Mythic) when ODST is released, and do not forget the free cold storage map.

Also I think Call of Duty: World at War has 3 map packs, if not a third is coming out.

And I am not certain about this but I think Gears of War has 3?

So if I deciphered your comment correctly (thinking killzone was the only game with 3 map packs), Killzone is not as great as you thought it was.

[Mr_iClu7ch]

it will compete with Halo Reach and Gears of War 3.

RiP Killzone 3 ...

ahaha stupid Sony Droids...LOL

[caseylakes]

Oh so your one of the people who can tell the future, how is that for you?

They all have an equal chance of being good or bad.

I don't like you.