OXM UK: Epic's Mark Rein has revealed that Microsoft's E3 demos of Project Natal - Ricochet and Paint Party - were created using Unreal Engine, which is the first game engine to support Microsoft's new motion sensor.
unreal engine that alone is just meh but honestly i couldn't tell
And i doubt you could tell what engine a game uses, if your not told. You could only guess....
Its funny how they all sound pumped for Natal... Its like "Everyones using our engine for Natal first!" lol I think a lot of developers are really thinking Natal will be big.
i think this IS what they should be using for Natal its a diverse engine that doesn't rely on graphics or physics so it would be perfect for games like Ricochet. This is the only thing the UE3 should be used for regular core games like Wii sports that are produced with budget costs, Perfect and absolutely Brilliant idea.
Yay a sub par engine used to make a few sub par games.
I could spot a game running the UE3 engine from a mile away.
@fermcr11 Yeah those games look decent but here is the problem they don't compare do other games out there like Rage, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc. The unreal engine has reached it's limit. Need proof? Gears 2 looks like gears 1. Rainbow six Vegas 2 looked like Vegas 1, Bioshock 2 is looking like Bioshock 1. That being the case the engine is quickly getting left behind. Not only that but if you want a game that is visually different then you don't want Unreal as every game that uses it tends to look similar even if they are vastly different games. I knew Mirror's Edge used Unreal the second i put the disc in and I never followed it's development same can be said for Bioshock. Need proof that Unreal has a difficult time looking Different. Look at the concept art for Lost Odyssey and see how the game wasn't able to completely capture the look and feel of the original concept art.
Seriously you could use kismet for natal yet are they trying to say they will have a motion base control set up for FPS! If so that would be good but who like UT3 on the xbox or tell me how much gears of war would rock with motion controls? This engine was built for FPS if you make any thing else with it expect it to break...
+Gears of War 1 and 2 - technically good, but the art style made it ugly +Batman: Arkham Asylum - still don't like the glossy look, but art style is significantly better than gears, making it look better +BioShock 1 and 2 - Still good, but not my thing, you can easily see the shader heavy textures, its annoying, and a lot of bloom is also annoying Borderlands - dunno +Mass Effect 1 - Technical f*ck up +Mass Effect 2 - Looks so much better than the first. +Mirror's Edge - Clean look compared to the engines typical muddy look +Singularity - Dunno +Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 and 2 - ugly, 2 was atleast a lot better +Unreal Tournament 3 - Looks exactly like Gears... lots of bloom and glossy shaders look ugly, same over all art style as well. Yay soldiers in football gear So far, UE3 has been a lot of "meh". The engine doesn't hold up well with the AI and has overused "techniques", when all those "techniques" are, are just the only strong points of the engine. Eg shaders/normal mapping Hell, their texture streaming is garbage still.
...I LOL'D. Really developers. There's are other engines available.
lol yeh I'm not surprised though.
Yes there is, but the unreal engine is a very rich versatile environment that has been worked on for more then a century. UE is to developers what Windows is to end users. Its loved and hated, but in the end its the best choise....
the best choice for developers who want to make games easily perhaps. not the best choice for consumers. Just look at Id tech 5 for instance. Rage blows away anything thats been done on the Unreal engine, and the game runs at 60 fps, i repeat 60 fps. Doom 4 is gonna run at 30 fps and according to id software that means they can put 3 times as much resources in there. Its hard to imagine how good that game will look. The unreal engine is really showing its age now. The developers that dont move on are gonna be left behind in the dust.
The unreal engine was a decent engine at the start of this gen but it just doesn't cut it anymore. Not only is it not that impressive graphically compared to stuff like Rage, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 but it's also not a very stable engine it still has issues with slow down(main reason alot didn't like Last Remnant), and collision detection in almost every game that uses it. Not to mention it doesn't work very well with art assets as you can almost always tell when a game is using the engine because of it's plastic like look.
The LEAD engine, Alan Wake engine, FrostBite engine, FrameWork 2.0 engine are all more advanced than EU 3.0 and 3.5 Go advertise PS3 somewhere else. @2.3 Rage blows away anything on consoles so far maybe until CryENGINE shows up on consoles. We will see what Unreal eninge 4.0 offers.
Show me just one engine that has the same feature-set (or better) that Unreal 3 does. No, really, show me, I want to know what I've apparently been missing out on. Oh and let me clarify: An engine that LOOKS better graphically is not necessarily "better". Unreal Engine is more than just about making pretty pictures on screen.
Most of the 1st party games will probably use the X-engine lol.
UE? WHAT IN THE FLIPPIN HECK IS IT WITH THE UE AND MICROSOFT!!!
UE brings pretty good graphics aka Gears and Bioshock.
UE gave us Gears of War 2! Enough said!!!
Whatever works i guess, the motion is what Natal is all about not the game engines, is all in the developers hands (as always) EDIT Wow 3 disagree and no reply! gotta love n4g
Hi :) (now you have a reply).
I disagreed because your comment doesn't make sense and is somewhat contradicting. You were expecting more excitement for the engine in Natal games yet Natal had the biggest Buzz from E3 reaching beyond the realm of the game industry earning massive hype and popularity. Natal is still buzzing in the industry and in the minds of people in the game industry and out! to this day, this is why you see fanboys bashing Natal. You said whatever works sort of demeaning The tech demo games and later in you comment you admitted you understood these where just tech demo games and the developers will use what ever engine they choose. I said before I don't understand what the haters points are, are you guys suggesting Natal will only use the UE 3.0 engine?
Don't worry cooliris aka whydis,pog,ididnotmurderhim will disagree is u say anything bad about M$.
Oh boy not that again. Stop calling those people. Are you trying to throw me off with you writing skills? because you are ULTIMATE_REVENGE and god knows who else. This seems familiar to me, every time I reply to somebody trying to stealth troll I get the same come to the rescue attacks calling me these people. Pirate Thom, Antan, and a few others always seem to read my comment in the 360 section accusing me of being some monster while I reply to trolls bashing the news I like.
i am not making statements against Natal, for me the Unreal Engine has done its job and i was expecting more effort in producing a whole new engine. Personally i dont want the 360 games to keep looking alike besides a change in colors and some textures.
It doesn't matter what the engine is, no one knew what it was when they were showing Natal and no one knew up until now. Its incoherent thinking on the part of the fanboys and others like you which seem to have an constructive opinion? Those were not games they where tech demo games built for E3 using the EU engine your comments(all PS3 fanboys) don't make sense.
This is freaking hilarious!
Really, can you honestly tell me why ? Is it because you think the UE engine sucks ? Can you name any engine that has been worked on for more then ten years, and has as much developer tools in it as the UE ?
Big shocker there...
I really am shocked. I knew MS was going to rush Natal but not at the expense of quality. Oh well, this is a major disappointment.
You knew Microsoft was coming out with Natal? idiot. You guys are so desperate trying to attack Natal because tech demo games used EU. I don't understand your points are saying Natal is only going to use the EU engine?
Whydis your old account ran out of bubbles?
If you so troll. You could have used the same account to reply to me for calling you an idiot you know. You didn't have to use two different accounts to reply to me in both zones.
If I were Tony or Shine I wouldn't use another account just to reply to your pathetic comment. Besides I only have 1 account unlike you.
I have no idea what you are talking about loser you're the 3rd nut that has said this in two days. If you had two accounts you wouldn't reply to my pathetic comments just your supposed one right? lol Change your avatar creep. Poor lonely loser comes back to see if he baited me.
obama i dont think that cooliris is whydis. Well they both are female`s... cooliris is pretty cool person though. Just my take on it. ^______^
You only have one account on n4g, obama? *thanks the universe for its mercy*
Mediocrity transcends controllers.
Unreal engine is favored by developers, because its a good environment to develop in. Whether the people that play the game itself dont like the engine, doesnt change anything about what the developers think of it, they build the game, and they use the tools they favor. Besides, Epic has shown what the unreal engine can do.
For the disagree'ers, If you think what i said is not true, then how come the UE engine is being used for so many games ? Even tho theres plenty of gamers that set a negative tone about the UE, developers still continue to use it. You know why ? Ease of use, and because its a powerful engine.
After they got over the shock of E3 they've been putting in work. They might also be on edge because of Comic-con and TGS
actually UE is 360 PC friendly there's alot of PS3 games with UE that have texture pop ins like UT3 almost every time i start a MP game i see texture pop ins on the arm and guns and i think ppl should stop using the engine almost every game with the engine looks bad except for Gears , Bioshock & Mirror's Edge i think Epic should move to UE 4 see what they can do with a new engine i'd like to see em have as good an engine as GG engine for KZ2 or ND engine EDIT @ below . WTF how can it be trash KZ2 is a technical masterpiece with graphics , AI , textures , lighting , physics , particles and if it's trash than UE3 must be [email protected] cause after watching a fair side by side comparison Gears 2 one of if not the best example of what UE3 can do and it was no contest KZ2 looked better in almost everything except face model something about the in game face models just doesn't look right it looks weird
But KZ2's engine is trash...
feels like they're laughing and pointing at us while they say it ... lol... well as long as the game is good ...
No surprises here. Edit: Lol @ the disagrees O.k. maybe i am surprised
It's extremely user friendly and versitile. The people who laugh at it do so because they don't understand the way game-development works.
Exactly, bubbles up.
As a PC gamer, I really love the UE3 engine. It makes modding so incredibly easy. You want a model in UT3? Okay, export it from 3ds Max, and then import it into the Editor. It's pretty much that simple. People need to understand why UE3 is as popular as it is.
yeah unreal is a pretty good... dont know anything about the modding side of it ... but its actually a little over used in games... i mean its no slouch... that thing can pull of games like mirrors edge and XIII... ... just overused with the same old artistic grey brown design
If the Game is good, Why should it matter? I wonder if Milo will be UE also?
yup the "milo and kate" game is using ue3
and the mediocrity continues...
Hmm...but most games made this gen uses the unreal engine so whats your point
Do you even know what mediocrity means?
yes i do but why complain?i'm sure you like alot of those games that make use of that engine....
Actually no I don't.
Yeah because Bioshock, UT3, Gears, Rainbow 6, Mirrors Edge, Mass Effect, Brothers in Arms and Splinter Cell are such "mediocrity" Stupid
I'm sure to you those games are "OMG!!!111!!" but to me they're "meh" No need to cry over it you nerd.
Can't wait for Burnout6: Total Carnage Woops! that slipped on the wrong article.
You never read what you comment on, do you?
You can taste the jealousy in here.
aint that the truth these idiots been playing games that use the unreal engine and loving them but now since Natal uses it they wanna hate..
jealousy because of UE3? Are you out of your mind or just out of lines? The Unreal Engine 3 haven't improved on anything since it launched. It keeps producing the same graphics from like 4 years ago... Seriously, this is a really bad time to be an xbot. I read the tittle and came just to laugh. =D
its all they have left. last gen graphics werent a huge deal now ps3 fanboys have made it the sole reason to own a game. theyve lost in sales, features, online services. they gotta hang on to something. just like most sites i just see them as comic relief now. almost feel a bit sorry for them. actually no i dont and would probably beat the tar out of one of them if i ever met them in person.
are you one to talk about graphics?i guess the wii graphics arent outdated right?
I also wonder sometimes how someone with wii in their name talks smack about 360 graphics. It's mind blowing really. Edit- Yes me and gamer politics have the exact same comment and he doesn't have a disagree while I do. There are people on this site that must throw disagrees around for fun.
unreal engine 3!!!?? i wonder what kind of buggy and glitchy on Natal? i wonder what kind of experience? it damaged your brain?