After learning that Sony's GamesCom conference will last a whopping 3hrs GamesRaid asked Aaron Greenberg if Microsoft's conference would last as long, he responded that the conference will not share the same length.
Well 3 hours is too long if you ask me. It's like sitting in a classroom listening to your professor go on with a lecture for that amount of time. Gets boring and tiring
3hrs worth of game announcements, price cuts and release dates, but that would be to much to ask for, it will probably be mainly boring, but with some great bits in between
If you spend 3 hours watching concept videos or listening/watching people on stage that has nothing to do with gaming rather than live stage demos of games with the developers then yes, 3h is too long
that sony had saved the GT5 release date for GamesCom or Leipzig! Europeans are the craziest about GT games.. also i wouldn't be surprised if GT5 sold less than Forza 3 in the US, while in the EU and Japan, Forza 3 would sell less..
But he was becoming embarrassing. Not just to MS or humself but to the industry-and lets face it whether you like Aaron or not he wasn't alone in this kind of badmouthing just more prominent. I've winced at some of the things he's said to attack Sony by ignoring the world outside the US and I suppose someone told him that , actually, people from other places buy our consoles Aaron and they don't all come from cultures where your kind of rhetoric is seen as fair play. Oh, and that they pobably don't take well to you thinking their territoyu either doesn't exist or matter to a high ranking MS exec!
Whatever, the one liners are much less annoying than the thought out NPD data BS that he used to spout as gospel. Lets hope that his change of character isn't isolated and all the other industry gobsh1tes wise up a bit too. He's still fantasatically ugly, mind, and I gope he's been working out since that damn photo that makes it look like he grew that demi-beard(not a real mans grizzly adams , is it?)to hide his second or third chin!
I can't imagine how Sony or anybody can take up 3 hours. In college classes the professors make us get up and do 15 minute presentations and people usually get done in 5 minutes. 3 hours is Lord of the Rings status right there.
My only guess is that 3 hours would be taken up to demo hardware, and so I assume Sony will have a polished presentation of their Motion Wand technology. And probably a couple new game trailers to show and maybe some more news about Agent. I don't want start any arguments about whether their will be a PS3 slim presented here but it could be a possibility.
"My only guess is that 3 hours would be taken up to demo hardware, and so I assume Sony will have a polished presentation of their Motion Wand technology."
Exactly what I'm thinking. Some of their E3 presentation seemed rushed. I think we'll also get more information on the PSP Go's bite sized mini games and non-gaming related apps.
Nevermind. I'm tired and shouldn't be posting. Honestly, I just hope Sony spends 95% of that time talking about games and hardware rather than sales figures.
You're assuming it's all going to be about the PS3, PS2 or PSP and games. They could very easily spend an hour talking about their upcoming movies eg 2012, District 9 etc. All of which would interest people at conference.
That was MS' conference if anything. Having 2 members of the Beatles on stage. A tech demo. Millions on lights and stage presentation. Of course all you see is grandeur from MS.
MS had more "fluff" at E3 than Sony did and even at the time I said that 2 hrs wasn't nearly enough for either to do things properly but, again, two 1 and a half hour shows with a break would be best.
The time wating from Sony at E3 was the 15 mins of sales talk that we didn't want or need whereas MS wheeled out the disinterested celebs clueless to the fact that they were only there for the cash and nobody watching actually cared anyway. Who wants to see Yoko onstage with the surviving members of the band she killed off? Not even big Beatles fans would want that even IF they were likely ro be gamers-which they aren't. I realise that the TB Beatles stuff is a big deal but it isn't exclusive and one Beatle might have been a bit better than cluttering the stage with an awkward moment that they should have foreseen.
Also both Sony and MS failed to seem like they even finished so why either asted rime is beyond me. Ten again if T10 just cut out half th times Grenawalt said the word "definitive" MS ight have had an extra ten mins anyway!
Sony and SCEE must just have a lot to say I guess but I really expect a long motion contro tech demo again, reiterations of the PSPGo stuff and gamesand some Eyepet/Eyedentify showings as well. GT5 might be the big surprise element as the EU REALLY buys GT.
Just because Microsoft had better presentation showing what they will offer doesn't make their conference full of "fluff". Microsoft showed plenty of AAA games with plenty of them coming out in 2009. Microsoft also showed a wonderful LIVE update and Natal, the company did not even have enough time to show all they had wanted. I don't get it I thought Sony was showing graphs and talking about charts to kill time.
It's not like the 360 has any games to show off. They may reveal some more DLC for a game that game out a year ago or maybe some new Netflix features cause that's all the xbots use anyways.
^^^^ Hahaha... Agree with Ken...... If they still could think then make Live Free!!!! Then maybe I will pick it up. Oh wait why buy 360...... Multiplat games i could play on PS3 with D-PAD controller!!!...
Of course Microsoft is not going to have as long of a conference. It is not like they have any new games to show off. Plus, their list of delayed games is growing by the month.
Dnt act like u know cause u really don't. Go look at Gamestop.com and look at the release date for GT5. It says ships December 1 st in U.S and November 27nd in Europe.
That is why the 360 owners have so much time to come in here and talk about ps3 games. It is not like they have any decent titles to play this year. At least they are going to have twitter.
i like how xbots say the web browser on the ps3 is useless and not needed but they drop their panties for twitter and netflix on xbox live, yet we can already do it
the Highlight will definitely be the motion controller, some games from Sony's London studio. Also, Heavy Rain was confirmed to be shown and will reveal a new character that you will play, and Insomniac also confirmed a new preview of ACIT.
Its highly likely we hear things on the PSN front, since history shows us in the past the summer is when sony really kicks thing off with PSN.
Other than that, the rest will be about the PSP (and GO).
Current Rumors: GT5's first preview, Agent shown, PS3 Slim shown, Jaffe game announcement, PS Cloud, and MAG delay, and Saints Row PSP.
OK so MS isn't taking as much time, what's the big deal? Sony's doing their own thing and showcasing what's to come for those who identify with the PlayStation brand. Personally, I liked what they're doing with the dual wand thing and I'm interested to see where it will lead. If the Natal project from MS turns out well then so much the better for them. The point is that we gamers come out ahead no matter who we choose to follow. Sony might take some more time, but so what? If great things are coming for us gamers, then who are we to critcise?
Sony, don't put so much graphs in your presentation with numbers of the past that no one wants to see, like you did on E3! That way you can fill 4 hours but its bbbbooooorrrrrriiiinnggggggggg
Its not quantity, its quality Sony. Do you never learn?
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Dude, have you seen this years E3? Graphs, graphs. Have you seen last years E3?Graphs, but that time it was a bit fun with LBP. I've been at the Leipzig Games Convention 2 years ago, graphs graphs, boring stuff. Thats why they never learn. They keep doing the same stuff. Taking 3 hours for a press conference is too long for just showing the goods. It'll be graph filled again...
The presentation hasnt even happen yet and you are already saying "Its not quantity, its quality Sony. Do you never learn?" Can I have your time machine
@Mart I thought this E3 was more game oriented than graphs, unfortunately it was mostly PSP, I think this conference will focus on the Go and motion control....and maybe the Slim but there will probably be graphs, they have to save stuff for TGS
Is cause its taken over from Leipzig, which did have a few great announcements that I can remember, and it is supposed to be even bigger. Also as this show is more orientated to the EU this means that there is a chance that GT5 is given a release date and so on. Also David Jaffe said he wanted to announce his new game soon so who knows... Moreover Sony's E3 did have some gaps, as in their motion controls did not show much and Agent did not have a trailer. Plus there is all that stuff about a PS3 price cut and PS3 Slim. Hope it all comes true.
Damn, I need more bubbles to talk here
edit: @GEC - yh Leipzig has gone now, hopefully GamesCom will fill its shoes
Edit 2: bubs back :)
Edit 3: I'll add a link to GamesCom on the site so people know what it is
Koln is really pushing the conference as the EU both needs and deserves something on the gaming map when you consider the market here and the vast amount of talent from EU countries working in the industry.
Liepzig was good but atrophied a little to the pint where Nintendo didn't even come anymore! Which, personally, I found a bot insulting to the EU press and market.
That said I doubt Germany is the best place for a conference for the EU when you consider the attitude their censors have to the slightest hint of gore or adult themes in any games at all. We'll prolly see a little protest from the Berman gamers who feel they miss out AND one from thei moral minority as well.
This is basically the Games Convention's replacement (where last year David Reeves teased about "12 big announcements" that included Eyepet and the QWERTY PS3 Controller keyboard). It's Europe's E3.
.. want to have their 3 hour conference the same way SCEA had theirs at E3 2009. SCEE have been quiet for a while now so they might have a lot to reveal, and since the team behind Sony's Motion controller is based on the SCEE R&D team, I wont be surprised if they show some more new and different aspect of the motion controller.
Sony DOES have 30 studios working on Playstation products (20 First party studios, and 10 second party studios).
if they are going to pimp games, i can see how a 3 hour presentation could be useful to them.
i'm hoping they pull another E3 2009, and focus on just the games, and leave the multi-media features in the background (despite what everyone said about Sony's E3 this year, it was absolutely DOMINATED by games for the PSP and the PS3 - they didn't have their usual talk of the PS3 being a multi-media hub, and going on and on about movie and music features).
Hmm...that actually makes me wonder what MS IS planning for GC.
I forget: Were they the ones that didn't have a conference last year? I remember at least one of the main 3 not having one at GC 08. Trying to remember.
I don't think it's possible to suck grains of sand, and with the incredible shrinking 2009 PS3 game linup, it would be like sucking on anti matter. Maybe with a penis pump you droids could get it up to a whole whopping... 1 inch :D
I hope Sony talks about nithing (that's right, nithing) but PS2 games.. or they announce that GT 5, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 demos will be hitting PSN the following Thursday.
Ninji you are right about Xbox360 seriously. It has problems yes it dose. It keeps kicking the sh!t out of sony and its fanboys.I own both systems and Ninji is proof being a fanboy makes you stupid.
You know what is ignorant? Not knowing the word ignorant and calling someone ignorant. How can his poor spelling make his decisions on video games ignorant? That makes no sense. Try using words you know the context of, this one, you don't. Being ignorant would be like being robbed by one person of a different race and hating the whole race and stereotyping that whole race as criminals.
Some people on here need to get a college degree and stop trying to use words out of context.
When is this Sony Press Grapherence? I mean..... Grapherence. That would be hilarious wouldn't it? 3 hours of graphs and numbers, damn I think I would buy tickets for that shiz and die laughing in the audience.
LMAO. You're all stupid tools, arguing about hardware. Can't you morons see that this is what they want you to do? They want you to have these lame, drawn-out arguments over something so insignificant.
"Oh, mine has free multiplayer."
"Well, mine has more features."
"Well, your mom is a whore, PS3 FTW."
"Lame droid, go away."
Yeah, you've all been reduced to a steaming pile of worthless consciousness. God gave us brains and this is what we're doing with it. Why don't we put our heads together and build a goddamn studio? We can write game scripts and mod half-life levels and stuff like that. Those are things real gamers would do, but NO, we spend everyday doing this stupid crap.
Yea and here you are commenting right alongside everyone else. Don't try and act like you are some special neutral party here to talk sense into everyone. Especially, when you resort to name calling like all the other people you are insulting.
Wrongo, pal. Nice try, though. Check my comment history. It's right there are waiting for people like you who make false claims about people like me. I am completely neutral in this hardware war that all the fanboys are waging. When "The Master Chief" makes an ignorant bash against the PS3, I am there to tell him so. When "Nelson M" makes an ignorant bash against the 360, I am there to tell him so. I love both consoles equally. Microsoft and Sony are both bringing good things to the table, and I would never waste any time analyzing which is better because I believe both are equally great.
The only problem with me being here is that I have become addicted to this moronic site where everyone is insane. I guess it's not my place to judge, but it's pretty easy to do so when I see idiots comparing one hunk of plastic to another, and arguing over pixels, instead of providing inoffensive opinions about video games. And by the way, go learn the definition of "tool." My claim stands. All the fanboys are tools.
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That's was a really good attempt at typing english so good on you.
That's was a really good attempt at typing english so good on you.
Congrats on attempting to insult someone on their poor English yet your sentence makes absolutely no sense. "That's was", really? Moron. Your grammar is a joke as well. Before insulting someone on their English, please verify yours is correct, otherwise you just get owned, like you just did, by me, right now.
i was wrong in my post earlier, they have 17 internal studios working on PS3 exclusive games, and 20 second party studios working on PS3 exclusives (and also games for the PSP). that's a total of 37 studios all working on Playstation 3 titles (and some PSP titles, although most of the PSP lineup is coming from 3rd parties).
here's the list of studios (the Asterix's denote a PS3 title):
FIRST PARTY Japan: Japan Studios: Ape Escape, Siren*, Loco Roco Team Ico: Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, The Last Guardian* Clap Hanz: Hot Shots Golf, Everybody's Tennis (or is it Hot Shots Tennis?) Polyphony Digital: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Gran Turismo 5
North America: Naughty Dog: Jak and Daxter, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune*, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves* Santa Monica Studio: Kinetica, God of War, God of War 2, God of War 3* San Diego Studios: MLB: The Show* SCE Bend: Syphon Filter PS3* Sony Online Entertainment: The Agency*, DC Universe Online* Incognito Entertainment: Warhawk* Zipper Interactive: SOCOM, MAG*
Europe: London Studio: Singstar*, EyeToy* Studio Cambridge: MediEvil, Playstation HOME* Studio Liverpool: Wipeout HD* Guerrilla Games: Killzone, Killzone: Liberation, Killzone 2* Evolution Studios: Motorstorm*, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift* Big Big Studios: Pursuit Force, Motorstorm: Arctic Edge (PSP)
SECOND PARTY
Japan: Level 5: Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, White Knight Chronicles* Game Republic: Folklore*, Genji* Q Games: Pixel Junk Racers*, Pixel Junk Monsters*, Pixel Junk Eden*, Pixel Junk Shooter* Media Vision: Wild Arms Pyramid: Patapon From Software: Demon Souls*
North America: Insomniac Games: Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction*, Ratchet and Clank Future: Quest for Booty*, Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time*, Resistance: Fall of Man*, Resistance 2* Sucker Punch: Sly Cooper 1-3, inFAMOUS* thatgamecompany: Flow*, Flower* Ready at Dawn: Daxter, God of War: Chains of Olympus High Impact Games: Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters, Secret Agent Clank Eat, Sleep, Play: Twisted Metal: Head On, Twisted Metal PS3* Slant Six Games: SOCOM: Confrontation* Lightbox Interactive (new studio formed from Incognito): Unannounced PS3 title* Titan Studios: Fat Princess*
Europe: Quantic Dream: Heavy Rain* Relentless Software: Buzz* Media Molecule: Little Big Planet* Ninja Theory: Heavenly Sword* EPOS Game Studios: Crash Commandos*
all of the games that these studios are developing are owned by Sony, so no chance of them hitting other consoles.
also, most of the studios are working on unannounced games, with a few of the PSP developers reportedly moving on to PS3 development (like SCE Bend).
i'd say a 3 hour press conference could easily be filled with game information.
I wanted Sony's E3 conference to go on longer, they ran out of time and had to cut things from it, hopefully whatever they cut will be in this conference
People are seriously complaining about 3 freakin hours?!!?! Oh how the attention spans of American youth have dwindled to that of a fly. How do you guys do things like ride on airplanes?
Arron green faT EXTRA CHEESE/PICKLE HOLD THE ONION burger has a ps3 in his house hold. he said that Sony has the best baseball game on the market.. mlb show 2010. i believe he has more games in his ps3 library then this.. i believe deep down he will be watching sony conference and biting his nail with joy on what sony shows...
how people get upset if something they deem wrong is said about their console of choice. You people realize that a lot of them own the competitions console and probably even play them on occasion. They play up their company, of course, but that doesn't mean they hate the competition. It's only you fanboys that get all upset. You guys need to grow up and get a grip.
I promise each company isn't coming to the gaming websites looking for ass kissers to pay for their loyalty. lol. No need to get defensive if someone like Greenberg says something that you can take as maybe, [possibly being slightly negative. You have no idea how ridiculous that is.
3 hours is a long time. i can see it pretty much identical to E3 with just more time to talk about stuff that was shown. Maybe they'll show something new, but who knows. 3 hours does sound like a stretch though. Hopefully MS and Sony both show something new. (Pretty sure I heard MS is announcing an "exciting" new game, but who knows)
"3 hours WOW, I hope the seats are comfortable…and no we are not doing anything like that."
Smooth Aaron Greenburg...smooth.
But at least they are announcing a new game at ComicCom
Cheeky bugger!
I can't imagine how Sony or anybody can take up 3 hours. In college classes the professors make us get up and do 15 minute presentations and people usually get done in 5 minutes. 3 hours is Lord of the Rings status right there.
My only guess is that 3 hours would be taken up to demo hardware, and so I assume Sony will have a polished presentation of their Motion Wand technology. And probably a couple new game trailers to show and maybe some more news about Agent. I don't want start any arguments about whether their will be a PS3 slim presented here but it could be a possibility.
Its not about who has longer conferences its more about who's will be filled with fluff or info and content.