SEGA stated last week that The Conduit saw "very strong week one sales." But how has it performed according to the June NPD sales data?
ouch, i kinda expected better, but i guess this only has 9 sales days so next month should be better
not to nock the game, or the wii. but its just not a "hardcore" console. games like that arnt going to do well, period. personally i will probably buy the conduit. but im very slow on my wii purchases because I focus on my other consoles. companys just need to accept the fact that "hardcore games" are not good for the wii. games can be great, like zelda and mario, but not all serious like conduit and no more heroes. companys need to make games more fit for the wii audience.
But I would add that even if a title does have legs it still sells faster early on, so it will take a long time for it to do well.
Actually they did pretty good. After all the bad reviews they still did pretty good and on top of that I'm not seeing very many used copies popping up either. The online keeps getting more and more competition also. For a game that every one says meh about it sold pretty damn good word of mouth works pretty slow these days. It just a matter of time before the right people get to try this game. I expect a sales surge right before grinder comes out.
Let's face it: the Wii is not a hardcore console. I know publishers are clamoring like mad to get stuff on the Wii because of the install base, but most of the install base is interested in Wii Play. The Big N kept saying that this was good for the game industry, that all of these "casual" gamers would become real gamers and we'd see an uplift of the hardcore. But frankly with Mad World, Conduit and others sucking wind in the sales dept, you begin to question whether anyone is going to publish anything of note on the Wii... except of course for Nintendo itself. I know we're not going to see publishers pull their support for the Wii like they did with the Gamecube, but I think it's becoming clear that we'll see fewer of the games "we" (N4G readers) like on the Wii. As I've said a couple of times, I just don't consider the Wii to be part of this console race. They aren't competing with 360 and PS3. Of course with all this motion sensing nonsense it looks like MSFT and Sony want to compete with the Wii. Ugh.
Considering the Wiis install base its pritty poor im comparison.
Its funny how one can say : They should accept it. There is research put into these things, they aren't going by their feelings. If it really is pointless they woulnd't even bother publish the game. And saying Casual people only like wii-play(fact that it came with the controller) is hard load of sh/t, that statement contradicts the fact that the Killzones and the gears of wars are also[KEYWORD: ALSO] bought by "casual" gamers(saying its not show how ignorant you really are). The term casual is not synonym to cute and family friendly stuff. If that were true, the movie industry would have looked different. This game did pretty well in such short time, reading the other posts inFamous only did a tad better but in a time span of a MONTH. Hvs is on the right path =), good for them.
@1.6 - infamous was released on last few days of May and managed to shift 178k so it did quite a bit better than Conduit. But it could get better sales in the long run, Uncharted 1 only 82k in its first week and went on to sell a lot more
"78k so it did quite a bit better than Conduit" yes thats what im saying : A BIT BETTER. So you can't say this is doing bad.
"The Big N kept saying that this was good for the game industry," It is good for the industry. Anything that keeps companies in business in this economy is a 'good' thing. Anything that makes money is, by definition, 'good' for the game industry. "that all of these "casual" gamers would become real gamers and we'd see an uplift of the hardcore." Well, that seems a little silly. I kind of doubt anyone -- neither the Nintendo executives nor the ones at Sony saying that the gamers Nintendo had would eventually graduate to a PS3 -- meant that there was going to be a 100% conversion rate of every single Wii-owner within all of two-years. "But frankly with Mad World, Conduit and others sucking wind in the sales dept" MadWorld's an essentially dead genre and as someone who bought The Conduit and doesn't think it's as good as say, Prime or the Wii port of World at War, I don't see much reason to be concerned if it sells less than either of them. "Of course with all this motion sensing nonsense it looks like MSFT and Sony want to compete with the Wii." And if they compete well enough, then Nintendo will have to compete with them in turn. That's the way competition works. There's nothing wrong with that.
@1.8 - You can if you take into account the fact that the install base of the wii is a LOT higher than ps3
if you read this article "SEGA stated last week that The Conduit saw “very strong week one sales.” But how has it performed according to the June NPD sales data? In the short time that the game was on the market, The Conduit sold 71,913 copies. Keep in mind that the title only had nine days of sales, as it released on June 23rd. This is a respectable start I suppose, but next month will probably provide a much better picture as to how just well The Conduit is really doing." What freaking amazes me is the fact that 9 days of sales is commented... I would bet 1 trillion dollars if this was a ps3 title, the nine days would have been left out and saying how poor the game sold. This is what happens when true journalism is properly researched and written, this is by far way better to read compared to all the fanboyism crap that ends up on this site...
"You can if you take into account the fact that the install base of the wii is a LOT higher than ps3" yes you can, cause for the same reason you can't say the Ps2 did sh/tty with all games due the fact it had an install base of 120million+? Think about it, with an install base of 120 million you would expect hardcore games to sell atleast 10 million each. Still holding on to the same argument? Then explain yourself.
Good sales. Maybe later in the month we will start seeing definite sells.
July will give us a better idea of how well its doing. But I can garauntee the anonymous editorials will start appearing to once again talk about how hardcore games can't sell on Wii, even though the same annonymous folks were giving the game 3/5's and 2/5's and even 1/5's. So apparently the game sucks but its the Wii's fault the game doesn't sell. Meanwhile Bionic Commando which flopped hard didn't sell because the game was crap, it doesn't prove that games like that don't sell on PS360. I'll put it this way, Call of Duty went platinum and that game opened at like 40k close to holiday season. If Conduit opens to this amount in an abreviated period during the dead of summer, then HVS has nothing to worry about..Plus the game is pretty kick ass.
I'm sure we'll also see the spin that this is a "failure" now because the game sold 70K instead of 100K in its first 9 days. People make up any barometer they want to trash a game. But it's at least fair to wait for the figures from a full month to roll in. Honestly, we're not going to see the legs this game has until after the holiday season. NMH was initially a "failure," then went on to sell well enough to spawn a sequel.
I thought Bionic Commando was much better than the conduit (IMO). I think the Conduit's control customization is definitely worth mentioning, as the game plays very smoothly, it just isn't particularly fun. I don't personally see what all the fuss is about its graphics either, everything looks very sterile and generic (kinda like F.E.A.R). Maybe the visuals are technically proficient, but they still aren't pretty to look at. I thought Bionic Commando was extremely underrated and the Conduit was just OK. If Wii was the only console I had, I'd probably have a different perspective on this, but the Conduit doesn't offer anything we haven't see before (aside from the controls).
Yeah, but don't say that too loud about NMH people still call that a flop, regardless of the facts surrounding the game, I mean we are getting a sequel in 7 months or so. Pac: Actually, I've never played BC, I should have made that clear that I was mostly describing how flops on other systems are never blamed on the systems themselves and instead is said to be a bad or average game, but on Wii if a game fails its the systems fault, double standard is all. This game will sell and every FPS title on the Wii that has gone platinum has a steady trajectory. Conduit will be no different, especially with the MP receiving the positive word of mouth it is.
New IP selling 71k in 9 days! Seriously, I don't think new IP usually sells like that.
Isn't this supposed to be the definitive shooter for the Wii?
inFamous did 175,900 in less than a week, on a much smaller install base.
im guessing he meant a new IP for the wii
Thats good for a PS3 game, and I'm not saying this to assume you are a Sony fanboy, but numbers shouldn't matter when it has anything to do with a PS3 game at least thats what Sony fanboys would have us to believe.
BaseballFan15 it is to the people who play it but we all know how hard it is to get you guys to play games. To many it beats metroid. PirateThom the Wii fan base does not work the same way. This game will have to make it over to some parties thus wii resorts will help the word get out a little more. I have tons of people coming over when that comes out and I have two wiis also so they will get to see their first lan party on the wii. This is what made halo so big. Well any FPS for that matter. Plus it is way easier to sell a game on the other system simply because they have so many games that don't have replay value... people still play mario kart and other games on the wii every day. Plus too there is a formula to selling an HD game and if you can get the fanboys to fight over it then you may have a hit. Since they basically buy the game to prove to them selves why they paid so much for their systems. The Wii gamer is close what we want to be selling games to. People who bought a system to play a game. Then they become people who are exposed to other games. Eventually they find other games that interest them one way or the other. Basically the console base is being reset. This works in the favor of new comers which is what the industry needs. We will see how people feel about buying their 5th FPS online game this gen when MW2 comes out. I'm sure it will sell but I think people will be looking to try out what HVS has in store for the grinder.
am i the only one that reads RUMOR? N4G needs to stop making all the rumors about the conduit presented as facts. here's another one - VZG charts said the conduit sold 160,000 in two weeks. and this isn't including 1st week Euro sales. this is grossly skewed and is only a rumor.
Ok,um N4G is a website not TV media so if they want to post rumors,THEY CAN.Second,Conduit doesn't seem very entertaining,the console its on is more for little kids,so a shooter like this shouldn't be on it.
ShadowMantis looks are deceiving. Many true hardcore FPS fans are loving this game simply because it does what other FPS doesn't let you aim and play like a real FPS game. The HD systems are more for kids when you think about it... stories filled with gore for no reason in most cases and a bunch of quick time events. Yet the Wii appeals to more adults and real hardcore gamers because of the challenge. Another thing is that whole gaming is not for kids is going to haunt you guys though. Many gamers are big kids and some of you will be leaving gaming while the younger gamers will look down on your favorite system as time goes on. HD gamers are not commented to actually buying games. It is way easier to fan boi fight online. Your only hope next gen is if nintendo does not go HD. You have no real 1st party games that sell systems. On top of that the wii line up is looking more interesting than the HD one for a number of reasons. I'm expecting a few more HD devs to go under if the recession does not ease up. Also fanboys are very forgetful... Once our game drop they will jump on board because none of you are true fanboys.... more like fair weather fans.
vgchartz and npd are completely different
@scissors Wii fanboy much? I really don't see how your insults of the other HD systems/gamers has anything to do with the article. And frankly your total defense of the Wii/The Conduit is unnecessary. Between your assumptions of HD system gamers and your defensive points, half the time I don't understand what you're saying (ie your runon sentences and incomplete thoughts). On topic, imo like others said the initial sales aren't bad considering its mixed reviews, the actual population of 'hardcore'/fps Wii gamers, and the fact that a full month's worth of sales hasn't been reported yet.
I DIDN'T MEAN THE PICTURE QUALITY!And u have the nerve,why don't u fall on those scissors ur running with!
When it comes to Wii fanboys, whether or not you mention it, Wii owners are gonna fall back on graphics as a defensive point almost all the time. If you say anything bad about the gameplay, they'll usually say, "he peobably thinks it sux because he's basing it on gfx." BTW the Conduit is ok. If ever there was an official game of Purgatory, this would be it. Not bad, but not great.
Hmm, bit lower than I expected. I expected about 100K. I think it might do alright in the long run though. I must question how many people who hate on it have actually played the game though considering the meager sales!
Sales have nothing to do with the quality of the game!
A great game will be a great game regardless of how many people buy it. But if it doesn't sell well, your odds of getting another game of equal quality go down. Just ask Clover studios. We're never gonna get a sequel to Okami.
70k isnt bad for a game thats not that great. I enjoy going online in the game but the single player leaves a little to be desired. I liked the game and it proved to me that HVS is a company worth keeping track of their games, but I dont think its amazing. Its been my problem with a lot of the hardcore games on the wii that people go crazy when they dont sell. Madworld was awesome from a presentational standpoint but the game play itself got repetitive.
The early part of the single player leaves a lot to be desired. I had been playing online a lot and wasn't too concerned with finishing it...but I decided to blast through it last night. And honestly, it was pretty good. The final two or three levels are nice. Makes me wonder how many reviewers actually finished the game. MadWorld was a black and white, 6-hour long, mature-rated brawler with no online component. Sadly, that game was doomed to be a critical darling and a sales disappointment. Conduit, OTOH, has some bad luck to contend with right now: http://www.pcmag.com/articl... Industry sales are at a 9-year low. Moving 70K copies of a new IP in the middle of summer isn't bad, especially when the entire gaming industry is down, too.
Finally someone else here,besides me,HAS BRAINS! THANK YOU DUDE
Madworld sold 60,000 in it's first month and many said it was a failure. Conduit has sold (possibly) over 70,000 in 9 days.That's around 8000 a day. Infamous had a whole month and hit 198,000. That is roughly 7000 a day. At this point in time... conduit is still selling better than infamous. Do the math yourself. It's absolutely true. It is also selling as well as red faction and coming close to the numbers of MK wii. I think everyone can calm down now. Even a decent online FPS can be success on wii. I wonder how good an absolutely awesome FPS would do?
I would say one of the bigger downfalls was the launch of the Wii. What games could you buy at the launch of the Wii? Awesome kick ass games that used the wiimote to its full potential, no, instead we got Imagine party babies fashion designer puppy veterinarian, and a plague of these games, which painted the canvas of what was on the Wii, now that the Wii is starting to get "hardcore" games, there not up the wii's ally. Maybe next time with the next next gen wii2 or whatever, they will have more "hardcore" games up front, instead of in the later years. such as when you were buying a new console you'd see what games were on it, and back then we had ps360=FPS, Wii=imagine party babies fashion designer puppy veterinarian. So now that the Wii is getting "hardcore" games, it might be hard to shake that image, and suck in the "hardcore" gamers. So maybe with the wii2 or whatever is next they can get some “hardcore” games launch instead of years later If I had the money I probably would not get the Conduit, sorry but I hate FPS, that is why I do not own a 360. [I did not get the wii at launch, plus back then I didn’t have a HD tv either, so the wii was the only thing I could get. I got my wii a few months before brawl was released, or the 1st release date was, then It got delayed]
" So now that the Wii is getting "hardcore" games, it might be hard to shake that image," dont you think thats a bit pathetic? Not playing games that are worth it just because there is this "Image" you can't shake off...C'mon now.
too bad Sidar has his nose so far up Nintendo's REAR to understand how weak the Wii really is
Killa, Read his second comment, he agrees with me...so who are you agreeing with? LOL, you are one cute clown..
lizard81288 I don't know I think this image works out better since the image of the PS3 is getting beat by an OS maker who best games before where Solitaire. I mean really what is the PS3s image a blu ray player? The image that nintendo has is it's fun... the one you want to stick to it does not matter any more. The games are coming SONy and MS are closing studios. What is HD console's image failure to those in reality while it means OMG PC graphics to those that have it. What is sad is PC gaming is going to make console gaming relevant thanks to MS because direct x 11 is that good. So what will be left fun games and people who keep a dead horse running just because it's looks fun rather than being fun. No one believes the value argument LOL and no one wants to pay for online either. Plus MS and SONY have the image of being has beens right now. When gamers turn against epic, id software, valve and don't even care when smaller company's just completely close or go into hibernation you just know there is about to be a purge of the vocal internet hardcore sooner or later. If sony is not careful the blu ray watcher will skew the game buyers further pushing developers away and maybe on to the PC. This gen is sort of over right now so why be a sore looser? You lost and you are still loosing. The conduit, the grinder, etc will keep on coming because they are not bloated HD games....
i play the games i want however other people won't. shallow people look at the wii and say its for kids and grandmas, or its all about teh grafix.tsk,tsk,tsk. they are missing some great games. sure it might not sell zillions but still...
That's...not bad. But I was expecting more. Still, for just nine days, it's not horrible. Maybe word of mouth will lead to sustained sales.
flip flop. It wasn't just 360 fans bashing inFAMOUS's first week. Sorry, but 175k > 70k Also, to the idiot saying inFAMOUS sold identical day to day this month...seriously, look at the BIG picture. That 190k + comes AFTER a first week of 175k, or an average of 25k a day. Don't even start (I'm looking at you Jack-o Nick avatar!)
No one cares about infamous. The conduit still sold 74k on a system that has no hardcore gamers while games like bionic commando flopped. Also a game like blazeblue sells like 34k on a hardcore system really... you guys are hardcore but not console hardcore.
9 days? Wth are you people talking about? It shipped on the 22nd and I didnt get it in my area until the 24th. No telling how many other places also had to wait til the 24th or even beyond. Still June only has 30 days. I wish this game came out at the beginning of June or July. Sales would have been good enough to shut up the trolls. People need to remember that Wii is not an HD system. The games for Wii do not require massive amounts of development time and money to make. So it doesnt need to reach 1 million on a month to make money. Most of you have tried to call every single Wii game a bomb. SMG was called a bomb for not outselling Halo in the beginning. Games at what 7 million now? Madworld is all you got right now.
So true. But even Madworld has outsold Godhand. Also my situation was similar the game was available the 24th in my area. Also galaxy was called a flop in Japan also, even though its also a million seller there, a feat NO PS3 game has been able to accomplish in its homeland. My understanding is it has sold closer to 8m. But whatever, some folks just want to live in fantasy land. So be it.
What horrible sales for a console with such a large install base and not many good games. This just shows that third party publishers should stay away from the Wii. Casual gamers don't buy many games.
Facts are facts, Wii sells the most software out of any curent gen console, so there goes your theory.
Brian -- 70K sales for little over a week, for a new IP, in the middle of a summer that's relatively AAA-less, during a recession while the gaming industry is at a 9-year low overall...that's not bad at all. And not many good games? Tiger Woods 10, MadWorld, No More Heroes, Corruption, SMG, Twilight Princess, de Blob, SSBB, Paper Mario, both Boom Bloxes, both Trauma Centers, Little King's Story, best versions of RE4 and Okami, Punch Out, two great Pro Evo Soccers, Mario Kart...what, you've managed to beat all of these? Or even play half of them? C'mon.
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