Pachter: Crysis via OnLive like 'playing on a fully-optimized gaming PC'

No, it's okay. You can read that again. According to a report released by Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter, the company was given a demo of streaming game service OnLive this past March. Pachter states that latency between the user and OnLive's servers is supposed to be no more than 80 milliseconds, while the games he demoed were running at 25 milliseconds. While Pachter isn't certain if OnLive will "dominate any time soon" he believes that the micro console's video conferencing feature "will likely attract widespread demand." (Wait, it plays Crysis like a gaming PC and it's video conferencing that will sell this thing?)

[Sonyslave3]

damn do anybody know how much onlive going to cost.

[Pandamobile]

Roughly as much as Xbox Live.

[RememberThe357]

Something about it just turns me off. I don't think I'll be able to even run it well. And not owning any games sucks. I don't like not owning physical media in the first place, now I wont own a damn thing.

[FlameBaitGod]

W/e patcher says i have no faith in

[nbsmatambo]

exactly i want to feel the sht i own....for all i know, OnLive could break down nd crash, thus losing everything i own in the virtual wrld...

theres a good side nd a bad side to everything...

[nnotdead]

i was thinking the same thing, but if they had an unlimited access subscription based plans, depending on pricing, i would be more interested.

[rockleex]

Imagine playing Call of Duty online through OnLive. You will get even MORE lag.

[Juice360]

How exactly will thousands or hundreds of thousands of people be able to play these games on their servers? Won't each instance require its own computer capacity to run it?

Makes no sense to me ...

[jmare]

And what happens when there is a huge user load and the servers crash? This is going to take a lot of work to get up and running. It might run fine with one or two people accessing it, let's just see what happens when a million people are trying to play COD or Halo or whatever on it.

[Proxy]

We see complaints of throttling PSN and XBLA traffic, and these are small optimized packets. Imagine the urge ISP's will face to block a streaming HD video.

Also, lets all remember a HDMI connection carriers over 10 gigs a second, so all those still in the stone-age with less than 10 gigs per second of bandwidth will be better off playing it on their local computer.

[The Lazy One]

it doesn't carry 10 gigs a second for HD video/sound. If it did you'd only be able to watch a 5 second movie.

And it's not like they won't buy more servers if more people buy it.

[Proxy]

A 1080p signal doesn't not take 10 gig per sec to display. Although HDMI 1.3 and higher are capable of transferring that much data, that doesn't mean they always do.

[Baka-akaB]

I'm not disputing the technology , while there has yet any valid demonstration made (a few journalists ten feets from a server , if it doesnt works well , you deserve some kicks in the nuts)

What i dont understand thought is ... since when is Patcher a videogame tester , and a valid source of infos in that regards ?

Analysis are his fields , and one he doesnt always master to begin with ..

[jerethdagryphon]

ya
it would have to determine what the required amount of processing power is and set up a virtual pc for that spec, and a copy of that for each

now do that math,
10 copys of crysis= 28gigahertz cpu 20 gig ram and 10xnv200 class cards..

thats a lot of processing power.....

[Kamikaze135]

If it does, then I expect consoles to try and do the same in a few years. Like another poster stated, I hate not owning physical media. Buying things through digital distribution makes me feel like whatever I'm buying isn't mines 100%.....

[kissmeimgreek]

i cant see this being to big of a success on itsown. but if it complimented consoles then this could really be a good idea but whatever.

[Nikuma]

Wtf is a Pachter?

[Allelujah00]

Gamer Analyst.

[psycho360]

"Gamer Analyst. "

The only games he has played are the pong and pacman. He has the capacity to predict the future same as a bannana hanging from the tree.

[onanie]

hmmm... to even think this thing will sell, and video conferencing is the selling feature? Pacther as usual?

[fuckoffodion]

what an idiot.

[xc7x]

wait,that didn't sound right :-(

[NotSoSilentBob]

It's nice that their are closed door demos going but, lets see them play it for a month with one of the Caps in place. Then lets seem how people react.

[Tony P]

I signed up for the beta when it was announced at GDC. I withhold any judgement till then. I don't doubt that Patcher can identify something as rudimentary as a game hiccup during play, but that's far from a good sampling.

So far it's been a room of devs next to the servers. Patcher all alone playing Crysis.

Get some real field testing (read open beta) done if you want to convince naysayers. This isn't impressing anyone really.

[Troll-Killer]

....Crytek using the term "optimized", as if they have clue what that means. When they prove they can make a game that will run properly on more than a high-end PC...when it releases....then they can talk about "optimizing". :o

[bjornbear]

I mean...i know television moved on and games on demand are the !future! but..i don't know...call me old fashioned but i think its like nowdays:

You watch the crappy weekend movie and show here and there on T.V

You buy dvd's / blu-rays for quality products you want to invest in.

This isn't the FUTURE OF GAMING. Its just a branching into a new form.

Oh yea and Patcher?....god i don't know, he's like that psychic on T.V you watch not because you know he's a psychic but because you enjoy watching him bs his way out of a situation...

[Nihilism]

in crysis i've seen up to 2gig of ram used just for the program...not the whole pc, i very very much doubt the hype will live up to be true..no internet can stream that much info, maybe in 10 years when fibre optics start to become maxed out?, if that's even possible

[DNAgent]

Once OnLive comes out then the 360 (or the future xbox) will be dead. Most of the 360's "exclusives" are on the PC anyways so once OnLive comes out you won't need a Microsoft console anymore. Nintendo & Sony will still have a strong 1st party lineup so you can have those consoles & OnLive then you'll be set.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Pachter has been talking a lot lately.

[cyclindk]

Problems apart from the tech actually working on a massive scale:

ISPs are still considering bandwidth caps in the US, which would ruin all chance for success in the US market, all the progress in speed upgrades will be for naught.

This would totally affect every other internet user in a household and vice versa.

Disconnects, no matter the quality of the service and server structure, are unavoidable and I just see it as a much larger problem in streaming games or other such data, i.e. movies.

At the end of the day, you don't own anything either.

That's all for now, other ideas?

[Ninjamonkey]

as long as its not too expensive I really cant wait

my laptop playing crysis XD