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Bungie - A One-Trick Pony?

"After announcing their fifth Bungie-developed Halo game, we wonder if Bungie has maxed out their potential?

With so many examples of great game developers who've time and again successfully launched new franchises, it begs the question why Bungie can't seem to gather the courage to step out from their comfort zone and give gamers a new experience, even if in between Halo releases. From this standpoint, it's fair to ask whether or not Bungie is indeed a one-trick pony, with their creativity hanging by a rope."

qface645841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

ill always think of bungie as a one trick pony
until they bring something new to the table to me they are just another developer like all the others out there
nothing real special if you ask me

i thought the whole point of them leaving microsoft was so they could make new games???

Chuk_Chuk5841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

because they know halo will sell. maybe thats why they don't move from their comfort zone.

jessehaysfl5841d ago

I hate halo, the control, the art style, the animation.
I hate halo.

However even if bungie is a "one trick pony" Bungie has still out sold almost every other developer with the exception of maybe nintendo.

So if Bungie is a one trick pony, then they pulled off the best trick in history and if we were scoring said trick based on sales then bungie gets about 25 million points.

AKNAA5841d ago

So their kinda like a hot wife that over time got way To comfortable with herself to the point where she is now just lazy and not as attractive as she use to be?!?!...

The Master Chief5841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

Why would Bungie want to stop making the most popular FPS in the world to something that won't be even half as popular?

Bungie became independent and have said they will be taking new chances with the Halo franchise. I don't think they are stupid enough to just give the Halo franchise away. Someone else can make the RTS/Rpg's/whatever else will come....Bungie should make the FPS.

Insomniac has made tons of Ratchet games and aren't even 1/8th as popular as Halo and they keep churning them out. Most franchises can't get Ratchets recognition, much less Halo.

Chuk_Chuk5841d ago

maybe because FPSs are more popular than action and adventure games

snipermk05841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system.

EDIT: Why the disagrees? Damn fanboys and their short sight! Atleast grow a pair and try to prove me wrong instead of phantom disagrees.

Tony P5841d ago

"Maxed out potential"? How insulting to the developers.

Halo is one of the most popular and highest selling games in history. Very few games join that exclusive club. Bungie could try a few new IPs, but most devs would probably kill for a golden egg like Halo.

Brings to mind Blizzard. They haven't churned out anything but Warcraft related material since 2002. Four of those years were dedicated solely to WoW. They've only just recently announced new sequels. Were they just out of ideas for those years? Of course not.

There's nothing wrong with banking on your successes. It's a sound plan and probably here to stay while in the thick of recession. That doesn't mean that Bungie are stagnant. And even though they're producing more under the banner of Halo, these newer titles are still evolving.

Headshot815841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

I don't think they're going to pull it off this time, COD:MW2 is the new Halo, that franchise is growing fast, and across all platforms. Im not a big COD fan,i don't hate it, but i can't deny their talent. Almost every gamer i know has already made up their mind on buying the game. HALO WHO????????

The Master Chief5841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

"ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system."

ermmmm, actually the Halo series has sold more than the Half Life series. Go find proof, you wont be able to because Halo has sold more than Half life as a franchise.

Also, I own Xbox 360, PC, DS and Wii. It's not really your buisness what I play. And no I don't play Playstation.

Raf1k15841d ago

didn't Bungie make the Oni game?

Would be nice if they'd make a sequal. I loved that game

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vidoardes5841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

Before this little fanboy fight goes on any longer...

Halo Series = 24.8 million copies worldwide
Half-Life Series = 29.8 million copies sold worldwide EXCLUDING Steam sales

Half life 2 sold over 6.5 million copies on steam which pushes the total sales over 35 mil, take into account how much the episodes and half life 1 sold online your probably pushing 50 million

End.Of.Argument

SuperM5841d ago

You are all wrong. The most popular first person shooter is by far Call of Duty.

I find it amusing how many people always mention bungie as one of the top 5 devlopers in the world. Among all the talented devs out there, Bungie has not proven their worth on such a list. They have been riding a wave of hype and advertisement from MS and with the help of a rabbid fanbase that would buy their game even if it was called halo: turd, they have become successful. But aside from Halo1 they have yet to make a classic title. Since then its gone downwards and by the looks of it Halo ODST will be the bottom of the pit so far. 60$ for a 5 hour expansion? no thanks. Still a smart move though, because the fanbase will buy it and they will cash in millions.

But seriously, Bungie does not belong on a list of legendary developers like Valve, Blizzard, Naughty Dog, Infinity Ward, Rockstar North, etc.

vidoardes5841d ago

Call of duty series = 35 million (11 of which is cod5)

Can't you people use google?

Mike134nl5840d ago

If they can only do one trick, It is still a damn good trick.
But guess it would be nice to see if they can do other tricks, since their their first trick sold millions their other tricks might pale before halo.

menoyou5840d ago

Bungie is a mediocre developer of generic games. Nothing they do is polished and none of their products stand out. The only reason people think they're good is because Microsoft spends more money marketing Halo than they will ever receive in profit from its sales.

N4g_null5840d ago

jessehaysfl I agree yet I loved halo's concept and art in the beginning. What we currently call halo is far from what it should have been yet other games have come out to fill that gap so I'm not mad. Halo is horrible half baked potential though. Some times I even wonder if epic could do a better job GASP!

Hey but the funny thing is most developers are one trick ponies simply because games take way too much effort to make now because of HD. These are not comics these are games trying to past the selves off and TV shows or movies.

If Kojima doesn't make zone of enders then he too will be a one trick pony. Hell he even has snatchers to fall back on WTF man! Oh well I guess blogs trying to be web sites must complain about some thing.

Shepherd 2145840d ago

Funny how Kojima never makes anything different than MGS either, but no one notices that because Halo destroys sales charts and MGS doesnt.

mfwahwah5840d ago

@1.18

Kojima puts more effort into MGS. And MGS isn't popular because it's popular. It's popular because it's quality. And yes that's just my opinion of Halo there. Deal with it.

iHEARTboobs5840d ago

It can seem that way but it's hard to do something else when there's more money staring you in the face. I thought we were going to start seeing something new from Bungie (since I thought ODST was their last Halo) but I guess we wont for a while. Either way, they have skill, but I think we could do with a different game in between all the Halo's.

TheReaper425840d ago

Geoff of GT said that HALO is a one trick pony, right after that he said "ouch."

http://www.gametrailers.com...

barom5840d ago

MGS4 was and is a total make over. He stepped out of his comfort zone and made arguably the best stealth game out there. In addition to that he made Zone Of Enders (after MGS2 I believe) which got high remarks and before that he made Policenauts and Snatcher, which also has been praised.

If Bungie would do even a tenth of what Kojima does, I would have at least some respect for them. But instead they go intendepent to do what? Not just one but two more Halo games? How much sense does that make? Either Microsoft won't approve their projects or they just don't have that capability or possibly just scared that they might in fact be a one-trick pony.

swingingape5839d ago

Halo is so overrated. COD is much better series and more innovative too

Shepherd 2145838d ago

Bungie also made Myth, Oni, Marathon, and Pathways into Darkness, all of which received critical praise as well. What of it? Kojima didnt step out of his comfort zone because MGS 4 only expands on the core principles that made the first 3 MGS's, just like Bungie does with Halo. And also, MGS 3 was better than your "perfect" MGS 4. Thats what i think of it. Deal with it. MGS 3 had more gameplay and a better balance of cutscenes, where as MGS 4 is mainly cutscenes.

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Gue15841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

Epic Tittle! LOL =D

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Halo Reportedly Coming To PlayStation Soon, No Switch 2 Version Planned Yet

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slate912d ago

MS probably didn't want the negative press for over a year about Halo coming to sony, which is why they didn't reveal it this year. IMO

InUrFoxHole2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I dont think that's it. Gears coming to PS is a big deal and we already know that MS is bridging all games. I think its gonna be a next year reveal or when ever they reveal the new xbox. I tell you what's funny. At 1st all gamers were in arms about MS bringing games to PS. Hardcore xbox were mad. Hardcore sony were happy and some trolling. Admittedly at 1st I didn't like it. Truth is for years these companies have been training their consumers to have brand loyalty and believe that certain games were only possibly because of the company they were made under. When you turn that silliness off you realize as a consumer this is one of the best things to happen in gaming. You have the choice to play where you like.

slate912d ago

Totally agree. MS lost the console war so they moved into publishing where there is money to be made. Now everyone can have the once-exclusive gems on their system of choice.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Slate91
Agreed. No way in hell MS is gonna catch anyone in console sales. They're gonna go where the money is.

Shiro1732d ago

Now you clearly have a choice. That would be playstation. You can get Xbox games and all Playstation only games. Why in the hell would anyone buy a Xbox over a ps or pc is beyond me now.

dveio1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

"When you turn that silliness off you realize as a consumer this is one of the best things to happen in gaming.“

Microsoft easily could have told anyone in 2020 already.

They already knew how their next 5 years would evolve, didn't they? In hindsight?

So people could at least have thought about it twice if they'd pay for an X or S - or instead just buy a PS5 right away.

What I am saying is:

Nice try.

But I personally won't ever buy into their "It's about choices to play/we want to reach everyone" BS.

All they care about is money.

Especially 1st party exclusives are a special and completely logical treatment for your own hardware to offer at least some unique selling points to people.

The problem for Microsoft was they just hadn't any. In 2020. And they didn't know it in 2020 first, no, no.

They had 7 years from 2013 to 2020 to prepare for the Series Generation. Which they did - but they didn't tell their community just yet.

And this is just cheap and gutless, now disguised as "We care for everyone!", and again held up by their very own community, at least parts of it.

Because the Xbox brand will have lost another 12-20'ish million users between Xbox One and X|S.

For reasons. Don't you think?

If Microsoft could have done the ways they wanted, e.g. leaked throughout the FTC trial, they just would have bought everything.

From Sega, CD Projekt Red, Capcom, From Software, Warner Bros.

To even Nintendo and Valve.

And don't forget: they had already bought Zenimax and ABK, and STILL wanted more!

Microsoft is a cancer in the gaming business. And I very much wonder how people still don't see through it!

InUrFoxHole1d 14h ago

@devio
You're conflating 2 different things. There stance is absolutely 💯 play anywhere. You can't deny that. But what they are doing is separate from why they are doing it. If you think any of these companies do it for any reason other than $, then you are fooled. MS hand was forced by piss poor decisions. I'm not blind to that

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darthv722d ago

I say bring it... for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer. Well... now they can play Halo themselves and enjoy what millions of XB fans have been enjoying. Why settle for the rest when you can play the best.

JEECE2d ago

"for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer"

Lol are you posting this comment through a portal from the year 2008? The "halo killer" narrative died a long time ago.

Cacabunga2d ago

Darth is stuck in time.. Halo killer was born on xbox OG. Killzone 1 started it but the idea vanished when KZ2 was released in 2008 or 2009.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Halo killed itself

CrashMania2d ago

Yep, halo has already has a couple of killers, Microsoft and 343.

S2Killinit1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Halo died when Bungie was not longer involved, a slow death, but surely 343 studios killed it with each iteration.

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The_Hooligan2d ago

I don't know man, lately it seems Halo is the Halo killer. In my opinion Reach was the last good halo game. Although I prefer ODST's campaign over Reach but man that Reach MP was so good.

IAMRealHooman2d ago

343 studios was the halo killer

TiredGamer2d ago

“343 studios was the halo killer”

No truer words have ever been spoken.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Halo 5 was much better than Halo reach. (MP)

tebis12d ago

It was said for a few years, then Halo decide to kill itself.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

At this point though who hasn't played halo its not like its been cost prohibitive to go buy an old 360 or play it on pc

KwietStorm_BLM2d ago

The media said that. Time and time again. People minding their business on PlayStation didn't say they need a Halo killer. That doesn't even make sense.

1Victor2d ago

@darth: “ I say bring it... for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer”
Wait I thought the halo killer was its tv show😂🤣

Sony had a lot of halo killers but couldn’t commit to one all better in one way or another than halo better graphics and gameplay without aim assist = kill zone.
Better multiplayer: Warhawk 32 players and Starhawk 64 players and a lot of fun to play.
Honorable Benton socom so yeah I blame Sony for not committing to what they had or putting it together 🤷🏿

Shiro1732d ago

Technically Halo killed itself.

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The Wood1d 17h ago

Flux Capacitor....... send me the link please Darth

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ocelot072d ago

If it's not Infinite or Master Chief Collection. Then maybe it's just a complete collection? Halo 1-5 + ODST and Infinite with a £70 price tag.

neutralgamer19922d ago

I think that would be smart but with how MS are handling gears we may see them bring 1 game at a time and charge $50 for each. I wss hoping for a complete gears of war collection

Gears 1-5 all dlx & Gears judgement for $80 but instead we get 1 game. Just like Sony are remastering and remaking games we will see MS now do the same

Eonjay2d ago

Why would Microsoft wait to put this on Switch 2? In a perfect world it would have come to the original Switch.... but if this is not possible, they may be looking to cash in on the fact that it is very likely that most Swich 2 onwers will also a PS5 meaning that they can get a lot of double dippers simply by staggering the releases. I think this is true for multiple Xbox Studios games on PS5. By the next Summer games fest, expect an onslaught of games coming to Switch in the same way they are coming to PlayStation now.

Levii_922d ago

Halo 2 MCC is one of the best games ever.

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Halo: Combat Evolved Remake reportedly planned to release in late 2026

Xbox Game Studios' Halo: Combat Evolved Remake is reportedly planned to release in late 2026 to celebrate 25 years of Xbox.

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Goodguy013d ago

Dear God it's been 4 years since infinite and no official update on anything lol.

Tacoboto3d ago

No official update on anything?

They replaced studio leadership
They changed the studio name
They announced the change to UE5
... all while supporting Infinite

The support to Infinite isn't what it originally should have been but they've still been providing tons of official updates over the years, and as recently as two months ago added a brand new weapon.

GamerRN2d ago

I think remaking Halo Combat Evolved, and going to 2 and 3 again, will help give the studio an idea of how to make a Halo game feel like Halo again

Tacoboto2d ago

Infinite did feel like Halo, that's not what the complaints were...

The complaints were almost literally everything else. Monetization, netcode and desync, the campaign structure, story, and single biome, the weaker-than-expected post-launch content.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

Gotta agree. Infinite felt like halo.

Profchaos3d ago

Dev times in modern days 4 years of silence isn't unheard of when things are running smoothly.

And around 6 months ago 343 did show a tech demo of ue5 using halo assets so it's not radio silence.

Given all the shake ups i am more surprised we're getting anything next year at all.

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They coulda started with Halo 3 remake ... I know Halo CE remaster was not proper with the art style but still, remaking after a remaster seems dull, when Halo 3 and Reach have started to show some age.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Yeah I hate they used Halo reach artstyle. Hope this remake feel authentic yet fresh

--Onilink--3d ago

Probably the simplest to work around with. They are reportedly doing it in UE5, so its just as much an Anniversary thing, as its probably the studio getting familiar and setting up their tools and processes in the engine with an actual game, to facilitate the development of the next Halo

Profchaos3d ago

I'm guessing combat evolved has a smaller scope in general the later half of the game features a ton of backtracking and reused assets making it a easier game to remake on a deadline

Its also a better choice if this is the first game to be multiplatform mind you I think it's pretty much a given that anyone with a passing curiosity has played this by now in some way be it pc or brought a used console for a few bucks

darthv723d ago

This will likely come to PS5 at the same time. 25 years of XB.... shared with PS.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

It´s gonna be among best sellers on PS Store next year regardless.

raWfodog2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love to see Lost Odyssey come over to PS5. I would definitely buy that again. That was the first game that I played on my 360. Loved the story and battle system. One of the best JRPGs of all time in my opinion.

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OG Destiny artist recalls Bungie’s “disgruntled” reaction to Halo 4’s art style change

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Tacoboto51d ago

Bungie at that time became the most wonderful bunch of hypocrites in the gaming industry. Knowing this now, gosh the entitlement they felt was out of this world.

Nothing like buying yourself from Microsoft because you don't want to be the Halo Studio anymore, and the FIRST THING you do is sign your next IP over to Activision, for a DECADE, while they are in the middle of ousting the heads of Infinity Ward so they can exert even more control over COD while screwing out the devs at IW...

Should've come as no surprise then that Activision gutted the content of Destiny 1 before launch and was a horrible partner through Destiny 2, until history repeated itself and Bungie had to split from Activision only to wind up in the arms of another major conglomerate that also doesn't know how to handle these unmanageable devs.

Profchaos51d ago

Tti their credit they praised the technical abilities of 343 and I remember at the time thinking halo 4 was a huge graphical leap above reach everything else was rubbish when I actually got to play it but there was no doubt it looked good for the 360 and is probably the best looking game on the system.

But ultimately I think bungie has always had a leadership problem and going independent ultimately proved this it's only getting worse with studio heads being outed by Sony for abuse allegations seems like all bungies past success has been in spite of management not because of it.

But really I think the bungie we have today is not the same one we had in that Xbox era of Bungie

PhillyDonJawn51d ago

I liked the artstyle change. For the most part. Something looked worse but most of everything else looked better. Weapons and vehicles for sure. The wraith come to my mind instantly.
And how can they get mad when the bungie changed it with Halo Reach?

Sciurus_vulgaris50d ago

I know a lot of people dislike Halo 4’s arts style, but there’s thing about it I like and dislike. Personally, the Halo 4 design of Master Chief’s armour is my favourite depiction of the character’s armour.