Tretton: 15 first party PS3 exclusives in development

Nick @ PS3Center writes:

Tretton recently announced that Sony has a whopping 15 first party exclusive titles in development, capping off a well rounded catalog of first and third party games. "With Agent on one shoulder and Final Fantasy XIV on the other, and then 15 exclusives from first party..." Tretton reveals, branding them all as "Gotta have it" games. Of course, these 15 first party exclusives don't even count second party games, like Sucker Punch's recently released InFamous or Insomniac's upcoming Ratchet game. It really gets you wondering, what other games does Sony have up their sleeve?

[Forrest Gump]

True true.

[Press_Agree]

15/15 of these exclusives will be delayed. Press Agree.

[trancefreak]

The more the better just in moderation for my wallet though.

[RememberThe357]

That is not necessarily true. The term "second part developer" was coined to describe games that were published by a console manufacturer but developed by a third party developer. It is not an actual term. the only actual terms are "first-part" and "third-part".

I suspect that when he says 15 first-party games he means games that they are going to publish exclusively for the PS3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[DasBunker]

im glad they delayed heavy rain and GT5 doesnt come out this year.. my wallet would explode if that happened...

every year gets better and better

[chrisnick]

not only will i not press agree, i will NOT not take one of your bubbles...BACK TO YOUR BRIDGE!!!!!

[xabmol]

1st party is 1st party.

2nd party is 3rd party.

I suspect that your suspectings are nothing more than suspection.

[chrisnick]

you just blew my mind dude.

[RememberThe357]

I suspect you may be right :)

[poindat]

I, on the contrary, would explode with joy if GT 5 came out this year. I am working through GT 4, and I have to say, it is one of the best racing games I have played, and visually it is stunning despite being 4 years old.

All of these 15 exclusives, and GT 5 is still my number 1 most wanted. But then again, it really is wonderful to be able to have these kinds of choices. That is $900 worth of games right there, all of which are probably going to be worth the money.

[xwabbit]

very nice indeed, meanwhile MS has 30 multiplats on development right now........lol srry i had to do it :(, was bored!!!!!

[LarVanian]

@ XDF
In terms of games 2008 was the year of the PS3.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

More promises. How about deliver the promises Sony already made? Sony always talking about the FAR FAR future.

edit: might be my mistake. it sounds almost as some of the games are already announced and not 15 unannounced upcoming first party games.

[Jaces]

Annnd your a troll...whats new?

Moving on. I can believe it seeing the way the flow of exclusives is going right now.

[poindat]

In either case, 15 games is still 15 games, right? I mean, not even including the great multiplats in development, that is about how much games I buy in 2 years.

[sirbigam]

WOW if you watch that video guys this is exactly the kind of guy you want running your company, a dam good CEO i'd buy anything from him after watching that lol.

[lloyd_wonder]

I don't think he said all of those things. Games like GOW III were always listed as fiscal year 2009-- extending from now to March of next year.

[vhero]

at least 90% of these will be true exclusives e.g. not on PC like 90% of 360 exclusives. SEE MS take a leaf out of Sonys book these are what exclusives look like!

[Chuk_Chuk]

i need to hurry up and complete my games before these arrive

[cayal]

"Insomniac is not owned by Sony, therefore they are a second party, and they can do whatever they want. They develop on PS platforms because they like what Sony does for them."

If I recall correctly, Sony doesn't own Insomniac because they wanted to stay independent and Sony agreed.

But 2nd party developers like Insomniac, MM, Quantic Dream, Level 5 etc seem to enjoy working for Sony. It sounds like Sony looks after their partners.

[Syronicus]

This is good news for gamer that Sony is taking care of us. I am a gamer and one on a budget and knowing that there will be 15 more titles to pick from makes me happy but wishful of more money at the same time! lol

Between first party exclusives, second and third party titles, and both consoles, I have my work cut out for me this year - Fiscal year that is.

[Naucious]

i was planning on buying an Xbox360 cuz my bois have one as well but when i look at what sony's bringing to the table i wont have money to get one..... they keep bringing out exclusives.

15!!! is a lot for next year or even in 2 years, if they could release 5 exclusives each year and drop each one during a season and 2 during the holidays sony would be set for 3 years, let alone the great multi-plats, that plann should relieve some of the pressure off our wallets...

I feel sorry for the people who have both consoles either your rich or your about to go through a gaming recession lol too many great games coming

[Syronicus]

It is true that with so many good exclusives coming to the PS3 there will be little money left to buy anything else but I have to encourage you and anybody else, if you can sport the cash, buy both consoles so that no great game escapes you. In the end it's all about games and gaming with your buds and not about who's console is better than the other. I lean towards the PS3 but that is because most of my buds have one but I can miss out on any of the great games exclusive to the 360. It's a gamers life.

[Naucious]

lol true dat, it was in the from of a joke that, thats how it feels sometimes when you theres so many great games out there that you tend to think that your going broke, I for one have the habit of telling my girlfriend that i cant take her out that weekend cause I just bought Infamous or RE5, Honestly im trying to get an xbox360 but i keep ending up saving or putting money down for a PS3 exclusive. No lie i dont have it like some of the fortunate people (i.e. you) lol but i wont let that prevent me from playing great games, so i guess countless nights at my bois house playing xbox360 it is, and going home finishing on my exclusive PS3 games that i have to squeeze in my already busy schedule...

but the answer to your question is it would be fanboyish of me to say that people should only buy the PS3 even though thats my console of choice and ill rep. it to the death of me but the gamer in me says that you need to look on the other side of the fence sometimes, there are some good games besides them being on the PS3, it just seems the PS3 has many lol, gamers need to wake up!!!

[Face Palm]

He seems like such a nice guy; kinda reminds me of a big teddy that wants to be hugged :)

The M$ reps just look like giant douches. I get angry just looking at their smug faces >:(

Edit: I just read my sentence about Jack Tretton and I sounded really creepy O_o

[Saigon]

but i wish sometimes they would list them out...

[Beast_Master]

Maybe someone can help..Correct me.

1. Uncharted 2--ND
2. GOW3-- Santa Monica
3. ModNation Racers--Santa Monica/United Front
4. The Last Gardian--Ico/Japan
5. Eye Pet--London
6. Buzz-- London
7. NBA Inside/MLB The Show--San Deigo
8. Singstar Queen-London
9. MAG--Zipper
10. Fat Princess ??? Titan/ not sure if it counts
11. Grand Turismo 5--Polyphany
12. DC Universe Online--Austin
13. The Agency--SOE
14.
15.

That is all I can think of 1st party:
Second Party:
R&C: a crack in time-- Insom
Resistance 3 -- Insom rumored/logical guess
Heavy Rain-- Quantic Dream
Pixel Junk Shooter-- Q games
ThatGameCompany??

Rumored
Incognito??--Starhawk
Sony Bend??--Syphon Filter
Media Mol??--LBP2?
Sucker Punch??--Infamous 2 or Sly Cooper 4
EatSleepPlay--Twisted Metal??
Gurilla Games-- Killzone 3??
Slant 6?
Big Big?
Cambridge
Ninja Theory?? Heavenly Sword 2?
London?? 8 days Team and Getaway 3 teams new project.

[All-3]

http://simple.wikipedia.org...

Second-party developer, a company that is tied to, and makes games specifically for, a console manufacturer.

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HAL Laboratory is a video game developer and a second party to Nintendo. They're most famous for Kirby and Super Smash Bros.

http://simple.wikipedia.org...

[cmrbe]

this is more than MS in house devs have put out for the last 3 years.

[FrankFoxJaegar]

Sony's in house devs are godlike. The only lemon I can think of is PERHAPS Genji, I'm not even sure though if that's in house?

Anyways, here's what we have confirmed from Sony's first party: Uncharted 2, Last Guardian, Gran Turismo 5, Starhawk, God of War 3, EyePet. Plus theres rumors about a new Syphon Filter as well.

[KKanjiAnkh]

I gotta let Genji pass because part 1 was amazing, and 2 it was a unknown hardware rushed title. Game Rebublic also made Folklore, and that too had to be pushed cause of the PS3 gamr drought. The biggest thing Genji suffered was poor camera work. Ninja Gaiden 2 suffered the same thing and the game was made by a A level producer.

[RememberThe357]

if Syphon Filter was announced for the PS3. That is how exited I would be.

[xabmol]

Note to self:

Stay away from Syphon Filter PS3 announcements.

[SaiyanFury]

Sony developers are always committed to quality. That's both first party developers like Naughty Dog (owned by SCE), as well as second party developers like Insomniac. Many people perceive Insomniac to be a first party, they are not. Insomniac is not owned by Sony, therefore they are a second party, and they can do whatever they want. They develop on PS platforms because they like what Sony does for them. They are free to develop on other platforms if they choose, yet they choose Sony's consoles for their own reasons. And Insomniac always delivers us PS gamers with great games, be it the Ratchet & Clank series or the more recent Resistance series.

[cayal]

New Syphon Filter
New Jak and Daxter
Legend of Dragoon 2
The Getaway 3
Heavenly Sword 2

I'd like to see these being made.

[callahan09]

Nope, Game Republic is an independent developer. They made a few PS3 exclusives, though, like Genji, Folklore, and Dark Mist. Folklore is downright incredible, Dark Mist is pretty good, and Genji is OK. Genji has some gorgeous visuals and even some really fun gameplay and level design, and was marred by an absolutely abysmal camera that made the game about 100x more frustrating than it otherwise would have been.

[mxdan]

Sly Cooper Anyone???

[Beast_Master]

No thanks,

I will take an Infamous 2 though.

[KingKionic]

Double true!

[xabmol]

Word.

[Gue1]

I been hearing about these secret Sony games since the PS3 first came out like 3 years ago... =0

[Hallucinate]

yep amd i bet we got half of em

[talltony]

Thats 15 new first party exclusives. This is not even counting second party exclusives that are coming out. I guarantee that every 1st party exclusive coming out will push the envelop, you'll see! Thats why I love playstation!.

[sirbigam]

Brings tears to my eyes.

[Giriath]

Hmm, what kind? :)

[Uzesgelen_Goo]

he's crying with tears of happiness (-^_^-) hehe

[Skyreno]

IM SO HAPPY :) Sony, I Will Love to see what others game they have in there vault of AAA??

[TheHater]

Talk about taking things out of context. Did anyone watch the extended interview on Gametrailers.com? Tretton used 15 as a round number and that does not signify anything. Sony currently have 37 first party, second party, and third party studios working to make exclusive games for them under contract. You think out of 37 studios, only 15 of them are making exclusive games for the PS3?

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[sirbigam]

More Tears

[Serg]

Correction, they have 17 first party studios according to your wikipedia source. He said 15 first party games, not just exclusives.

PS: After watching the interview, I can only reiterate that Microsofts PR guys should really start to take notes on how to promote your product by talking about the product, not how you are better than the competition.

[skatezero246]

Thats why I invested in a ps3 well worth it

[Old_Boss]

AWESOME THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE HELL OF A PARTY

[Kappa Mikey]

this is awesome news

[ExgamerLegends2]

Thats awesome. wonder if theyre new IP's or sequels or both. Sense Sony Santa Monica is wrapping up GOW, they're prolly thinking about their next big franchise. Doubt its in development though.

[soljah]

can any one say

new jaffe TWISTED METAL

[xabmol]

Or 3rd since there really is no such thing as 2nd party.

So TM doesn't even count! It's #16! =D

[Serg]

2nd party is not an official term but it is commonly used, so I think it is a valid term to use. You need a way to differentiate the companies after all. That said I really doubt that Insomniac, Naughty Dog (those 2 seem pretty happy with Sony) and especially Media Molecule will ever develop for another console. MM because games like Little big Planet can't be done on the 360, not because it can't handle the graphics, but because of the user generated content, Microsoft doesn't like user generated content much.

[cayal]

I believe Naughty Dog are owned by Sony. Insomniac and MM aren't.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

when I see it.

Sony's solution to Project Natal and a wide spread realization that their oh so great 2009 line up was actually mostly their 2010 lineup, is more empty hype. When will you guys learn, they are saying this to get you excited about there console. To keep you from noticing all the building excitement in the media around natal and the better than expected 360 lineup.

And to think I used to fall for Sonys BS.

[JL]

funny that you mention "empty hype" and natal in the same rant.

That said i have nothing but the utmost respect and faith in Sony's 1st party developers, as they keep proving themselves time and time again, one after the other. Sony really is looking to empty my wallet out lol

[skatezero246]

dude don't blame Sony they never once set release dates for the games that are coming out in 2010 blame the stores/media for giving fake release dates. You might not like how Sony announces there games but I do ... I like how they release triple AAA games and show some more AAA games I can look forward to in the near future.

[xabmol]

LOL That is funny! xD

Nice one JL.

@Strikepackage Bravo

"And to think I used to fall for Sonys BS."

Looks like you've traded up for MS BS. I have to admit, they are much better at it.

"With project Natal, it's a whole new category of gaming. I mean it's controller free gaming. This is definitely something that's never been done before." - Aaron Greenberg

LOL my AO

[Nikuma]

We already got Killzone 2, and Infamous this year. Uncharted 2, NGS2, and Demon's souls are all on the way for this year too. That's a pretty solid list of games right there and I know I'm leaving some games out. I could care less if some of their other big games get pushed to 2010, I've got loads of games to play right now.

[DelbertGrady]

Coming in 2013. US 2015. Europe 2017.

[thebudgetgamer]

more time with my ps3 and it will still work then too.

:)

[bjornbear]

8 more years to the PS3! that'd be a better investment than on any other console =O

Quite the visionary you are ;)

[dogmeat eater]

yep

[swiftshot93]

I thought they would have more people on PSP, but Im not complaining. This is great considering theres still second parties, and Agent-from Rockstar North. Holy Crap that game is gonna be huge.

[skatezero246]

I'll laugh if it blows GTA out of the water gta4=big disapointment imo

[patterson]

Please let there be a new Wild Arms or Legend of Dragoon game in there.

I promise I'll be good and not say nasty things about those filthy xbots, just let this happen PLEASE!

[mxdan]

Sucker Punch just released inFamous, and I hope they are working on Sly Cooper... =D

[clintos59]

Because if we all know one thing for sure that sony will always deliver in, that will be the best games and tons of them. Any doubters doubting me with, "True FACTS That Ive Stated" well my proof is look at the history of each playstation console and from the ps1 to the ps2 sony has done that and we are starting to see it again with the ps3. 3 AAA titles to start 09 off and it only gets better from here on out. Hey dont hate me or sony, hate yourself for not owning one of these badboys. :)

[gta2800]

In Sony I trust.

[xabmol]

Doin the happy dance (>0.o)>

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http://ui13.gamespot.com/44...

[RememberThe357]

Your are on a brilliance streak right now. My brain is slowly melting.

[bjornbear]

LOL! that got ME moving.....=3

[ultimolu]

Yea! :D

[mt]

no i hope to see more exclusives from sony , keep it up .

i just hope for one thing , they are no PSN games in those 15 exclusive games .

[Old_Boss]

i won't have to worry about my ps3 geting closer to death while waiting for these game

off topic : hopes agent is going to dress up fully in blu-ray to impress

[XDF]

:P

[LevDog]

15 more than Xbox

[XDF]

No Sh!z, Xbox hasn't release a game in over 4 years. Thanks for letting us know.

[TheHater]

@LevDog
you had to drag the Xbox into this? Shhh....

@XDF
yet the PS2 is still selling and still get exclusive.

[mynd]

Dude, thats "in development".
MS can put out 2 gears of wars in the time it took a KZ2 to come out.
Some of these titles have been coming for a long long time, some are still going to be coming once those 3 have come and gone, grow up.

[badbond1]

it's a damn wrap for the crapbox360! As long as the PS3 continues to push the envelope (which it has-killzone 2,lbp,mgs4,inFamous, etc.) it will continue to win GOTY awards and convince people who are without that they can no longer be without a PS3! Name me one game in 2008 that was better than MGS4 and LBP on the 360? You can't.

Please don't even comment because you are wasting your time. These two racked up the most awards and the same will occur this year with either killzone 2, inFamous, or Uncharted 2. Stop the madness crapbots!

[devilhunterx]

XDF ASSSEEEEMBBBBLLEEEE

[robotnik]

Well, this guy deserves our respect, he is a professional, not like the monkeys working at Microsoft, (Shane kim, Aaron Greenbug...), or the chimpmunks at Nintendo.

[Foxgod]

Those chipmunks you mention show actual game data for games that release in the near future.

What does this guy do ?
Exactly the same as last year and the year before it, claim that there are exclusives in the works, to feed the gullible game hungry ps3 fans.

[saimcheeda]

add foxgod to your M$ monkey list while i add him to my ignore list!

[jeseth]

That since '08 E3 to now Sony has blown the doors off 360 in the GAMES dept. Not only delivering the most EXCLUSIVE blockbusters, but now the games that set the bar for the industry in almost every category.

MGS4, LBP, R2, KZ2, inFamous, MLB The Show, Pixel Junk eden, Flower, etc. along with all 360's best games other than Mass Effect . . . . I.E. MULTIPLATS.

But at least you guys got GTA DLC! Thats cool. Oh yeah, and now you guys have integrated Facebook and Twitter (which PS3 has had for almost a year now) and are getting that soon! And those Mii's you guys got are tight!

Keep it up.

[Cajun Chicken]

Nice.

[mynd]

I think Tretton is saying 1st and 2nd party, hell I could probably just about name all of them...

1/ R&C
2/ WKC
3/ Eye Pet
4/ Uncharted 2
5/ Mod Nation Racers
6/ MAG
7/ GT5
8/ GOW3
9/ Heavy Rain
10/DC Online
11/ The Agency
12/ Fat Princess
13/ Twisted Metal
14/ The Last Guardian

So, really is there anything new in what he is saying??

[silverchode]

what happen to datafly?

[krouse93]

yea IDk where the hell that went

[KampferZeon]

deleted

[Ravage27]

TWISTED METAL and LEGEND OF DRAGOON sequel BETTER be included!!!!

[mynd]

You already know the titles, why do you act like there is something new here?

[Foxgod]

Sony 2007: We have this many exclusives in the works.
Ps3 fans : OMgeh 2008 is going to be the year of teh ps3.
Sony 2008: We have this many exclusives in the works.
Ps3 fans : Omgeh 2009 is going to be the year of teh ps3.
Sony 2009: We have this many exclusives in the works.
Ps3 fans : Omgeh 2010 is going to be the year of teh ps3.
To Be Continued!

Seriously, will you people ever learn ?
Sony's marketing is so poor, they keep feeding the crowd with useless bits of information like this....

[mynd]

Well, it's sort of true, they do have that amount in the works.
Mind you of those said 15, about half of them will still be "in the works" next year. 15 games, over how many years I wonder?

[OmegaSlayer]

Fox, please don't bother us and go play some Alan Wake

[xabmol]

Don't be jealous. Maybe you can go help MS build some 1st party studios. Then maybe they can compete in more than just the sales department.

Just out of curiosity... What 1st party MS games have you been playing all year? :)

[Nikuma]

Hope you're having fun with Halo wars Fox.

[Foxgod]

Star ocean, tales of vesperia, halo wars, and the multi's

[Jerry Seinfeld]

Do they not know what the definition of first party is? Ya know, just because they don't have any doesn't mean they get to claim they didn't know any better.

So lets see... Halo Wars and? Halo Wars AND?! Well what's the matter there Foxy? Cat got your tongue?

[Chevalier]

"Seriously, will you people ever learn ?
Sony's marketing is so poor, they keep feeding the crowd with useless bits of information like this.... "

At least they release first party games that don't suck. And your awesome 360 lineup amounts to this.

APB I can play on PC
Alan Wake I can play on PC
Splinter Cell I can play on PC
Mass Effect 2 i can play on PC

So please go tell everyone again how awesome your 'exclusives' are. Oh yeah I actually need a PS3 to play their exclusives. Funny how that is.

[josephayal]

GIVE ME MASS EFFECT TO THE PS3!!!

[xg-ei8ht]

I'd actually like to See Mass effect on PS3. I haven't even played the first game on my pc.

[BlackTar187]

thats what i dont get i dont buy systems for multi platform games I buy them for exclusives I buy ps3 for them i buy xbox for them i buy nintendo for them why would we want everything everywhere. I know if your a one console owner but thats your fault you may not have money or whatever(trust me i know) but buy a console for exclusives or least i always have and I want to play mass effect on my xbox just like my halo(i hate it unfort.)and gears of war and fable those are title i want to play on xbox and I want my socom's metal gears,Ratchet and clank's etc. GT5 on my ps3 I guess what im saying is the gaming world would do itsself a disservice if every console shared games it would hinder progress in my opnion thats it.

Game on and today is extra special with ghostbuters BluRay/Videogame combo pack YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Jdoki]

Announcements/Interviews like this are why I'm favouring my PS3 right now, and my 360 is gathering dust alongside my Wii.

I know both my 360/Wii will eventually get used again at some point, but I started the year with Killzone 2, then moved on to Valkyria Chronicles, have just finished inFamous and have started Demons Souls, so my PS3 is in constant use. I also have Disgaea to play at some point.

The great thing about Sony (this year) is that we have had a steady trickle of quality games across a diverse number of genres.

My biggest disappointment with the 360 is that MS have basically condensed the gaming year in to Nov-Dec (Sept-Dec if we are lucky). That's annoying as I want to play games all year round.

[CypH]

15 first party exclusive?! Playstation3 owners got games for the next 3 years! Microsoft better release Project Natal before PS3 transform! that thing is a machine top class also.

[36T]

They will announce 15 first party titles in the next three years and each of those games will take another three years to hit the market. Don't you know the Sony way by now?

[CypH]

they raise the bar on every genre.

[-MD-]

Twisted Metal please

[Lou-Cipher]

@ Foxgod
If Microsoft had even 5 First party games in development, i'm sure they would be tooting their own horn. Don't forget that it is Microsoft that convinces with there mouth instead of their product, not Sony.

Microsoft is good at tricking people into believing what they have is good, and Sony is good at actually making their product good. There is a differance between having a great product(Sony), and pretending you have a great product(Microsoft)

@Murderdolls

I would really love to see Twisted Metal on the PS3, but remember that Eat Sleep Play is a Third Party exclusive not a First party exclusive.(if that is what Jaffe and crew is actually working on)

[-MD-]

Rare alone has 4 titles in development you can't assume just because Microsoft is being secretive they aren't working on games.

[knowledge4lfe]

murderdolls you are kidding right?? RARE?? the same people with viva pinata and viva pinata 2?? thats a joke,right???

[k jules]

Hmmmm, no. Rare had a SERIOUS makeover the last year, and when MS says makeover they mean makeover. So expect a lot of good things (better then the last itterations of their franchises) from Rare. Molyneux can have some pretty great idea's and Rare has the power to put them on a disc (Lionhead has yet to convince me Fable II was dissapointing).

[ultimolu]

I hope they didn't cancel Brave Arms. ;~;

Plz let that still be in development.

So glad I bought a PS3.

[OmegaSlayer]

It's in the natural order of things, that people defends whatever they own.
It's right to defend the purchase of a 360, it's a good side machine if you don't want to miss some good titles and you don't want to buy an expensive PC.
But it's a side machine, it won't ever be able to confront Sony about quality of gaming.

[Counter Strike]

Ps Motion Sports...etc...etc... All that kind of stuff...

Than :

God of War 3
Last Guardian
Gran Turismo 5
Killzone 3

Thats its...Than the 2nd and 3rd Partys.

Ratchet
Resistance 3 (Lulz...Cr** again)
UnCharted 2
Agent
Heavy Rain

Thats it.

[36T]

Heavy Rain is gonna be garbage as well. I say less then 500k sold in it's lifetime. Anybody wanna make friendly bet?

Too bad though because at first i thought this game would kick serious ass until they showed the game play. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

btw.. i'll hold back from commenting on Killzone 3 ;)

[Nikuma]

Low sales = Garbage game.

/rollseyes

[BlackTar187]

best games of all time have low sales thank you microsoft for introducing us to this world of crap. Only Americans enter a race and start making new benchmarks to suffice for quality(not a knock on xbox but a knock on stupid Americans)

PS im one of them ive been born and raised in cali and everything Americas gets in to we turn into a Poop slinging contest grow up dude.

I hope video games don't continue this self destructive path it will end ugly

[36T]

@ Nikuma

So what exactly are you saying? Good triple A games should not sell well? Am i missing something? This game has all kinds of hype behind it and who knows what kind of marketing Sony will put towards this title. Do you think they would expect it to sell poorly? I get you're point though. Not all good games sell very well. Did people even know about these games before they were released? I would like to see some names on the PS3 or X360 to stay current with you're examples.

"best games of all time have poor sales"

Name me some titles BlackTar. Are you going to go back to the Sega Genesis or something? Give me some examples. Personally i could give a rats ass about sales but to say that sales don't determine if a game is good or not is false, with very few exceptions.

Disagree with my avatar and name all you want. Just provide me with some examples.

[BlackTar187]

Let me start by saying this just because your not old enough for Sega and before does not make them less valid sir. Hence why i said grow up. I can ref. Atari games and it would be relevant seems to me your having a problem with fact and perceived reality

Note that some of these i cant find exact nubers for but guarnteed they dont meet your requirements(There in Caps)

Snatcher
Mercs
Twisted Metal 2
Okami
SoTC
Ico
Beyond Good and Evil
X-COM: UFO Defense
Thief: The Dark Project
Tenchutealh Assaisins
Twisted metal 1
Mafia
Alone in the Dark
Freedom Force
Syndicate
Sam & Max Hit the Road
Monkey Island
Panzer Dragoon Saga ( My opnion) Not sure the sales
Grand Theft Auto 1 not so much 2
Star Control 2 ( a game made by my uncle)

EDIT: Policenauts and any good game on the Jaguar,Sega CD,32x, or 3do helps my argument.

Man I can go on and on and only cuz you called me out im gun shy and wish i could think straight

But you can break some of those down probably since there off of my head but hopefully you understand

Now since your so good at separating time periods some of these games can be perceived as successful just like all those other games that sell 2 million over time and you call a flop so you should have no problem separating the 2 i hope since you seem to have such a good grasp on this kinda stuff.

NO you are only refreffing to XBOX games please make a list of games to match what your saying please. ALl your using is Halo sold this much and gears sold this much and titanic is the best moie of all time garbo

[BlackTar187]

Warlords 1&2 (bet you cant even find that game because it sold so bad)the ones on the internet are the remakes from the original company that couldn't sell enough to stay open.

Also i want to point out that games back then alot of them were great but since we didn't have the market they never sold good enough to keep the developers in business that is still relevant and will always be.

Captian Wilco (Lol)

Im hoping for a response : )

[BlackTar187]

He wouldnt come back to comment ahh

[Lanontscuz]

Legend of Dragoon 2 please Do it! Do it! Do it!!!! ill pay $80 for a ragular copy for this!

[ps3gogetitt]

Shutup and bring the games already, at least wait until these games are almost out before commenting...

I got so excited about your conference at E3 until reality set in... I WON"T BE PLAYING THESE GREAT GAMES UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

WHY COULDN"T you get some of these games out for the fall..

DAMn it......... I want God of WAR now!!!!!!!

[CSM-101e]

"Do Androids Have Wet-dreams About Electric Jack Tretton?"

Yes.

[themyk]

im glad sony tells us about games. i'm glad i know whats coming out. i'm glad i don't have to wonder if we're getting good games. sony tells us about games while they are releasing games. i'm glad. why is this a bad thing?

[36T]

"15 first party PS3 exclusives in development" which will come out in the next ten years!

God, i love Sony! LOL

[Seraphemz]

How many do Microsoft have in devopment? First party....

Can they even claim 15?

Dude, grow up.

[juggulator]

go to the ps3 portion of ign.com and click on Release Dates. you'll see games listed that will blow your mind.

[gamingisnotacrime]

That alone justifies the PS3 tag price. Add the multiplatfroms and PS3 feutures and what u get is a great deal

[Crystallis]

Holy PS3 Batman!! Too many great exclusive so little money and time.

[DiLeCtioN]

has a great catalogue of games, all they have to do is choose a few from PS2 and boom you have great games for PS3. The funny thing is though they have not really focused on remaking games, a lot of big PS3 games are new ips...infamous and uncharted are great titles.

[WeaseL]

Mr Tretton bashes the opposition without needing to bash the opposition.

[pippoppow]

So true. All you have to do is state facts which is like fanboy repelent and a hammer to the head to the competition. Exclusives have and always will matter. PEEYAAHHHHHHH.

[Karum]

This is why I own a Playstation 3, I know I'll get a great gaming experience and I made this decision based off the PS1 and PS2. Who can sya those systems, especially the PS2 didn't provide an amazing gaming experience over the years?

It took the PS3 a little while to get moving but we've recently been getting some great games and it just looks like it is getting better.

[Blackcanary]

thats all i want or a remake of Alundra or hmmm Primal pleaseeeeeeeeeeee sony pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Doesn't mean "coming out this year" or anything. It is good news, but don't get too worked up about it.

Guaranteed that one of those 15, though, is Killzone 3. Can't wait.