Natal Will Have "Real, Hardcore" Games

Escapist: The Xbox 360's Natal won't just be all casual games and virtual boys in your TV - it'll have "real, hardcore triple-A" titles, according to Microsoft.

The experience, a representative from Microsoft said, could work to provide simultaneously enjoyable experiences for hardcore and casual gamers alike where the 360 reads Natal and controller inputs simultaneously, like a Halo type game where one player will using the controller while the other uses Natal to chuck grenades or drive.

[Hiruma Youchi]

argh.

By Watching the Games on the Wii

No more heroes
Madworld
Conduit
Resident evil Umbrella

I can Confirm that yeah , Natal will have Hardcore games to But is it worth being submited as news?

meh.

[qface64]

he says the truth

also i think this is a duplicate story

[Syronicus]

But will there be enough to warrant the purchase (as a hardcore gamer) of the peripheral? That is the biggest question I have, what will it cost and will it ever have enough games to warrant my purchasing it?

[sniper-squeak]

..once 4D gaming technology has been developed too. It will literally feel like ur "in the game".

Might actually feel a bit wierd. Like nausea... they already have a name for that... "simulator sickness". There's gonna be a lot of cases lol.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

My prediction is that Microsoft will put Natal-exclusive features into Halo: Reach. Millions of Halo fans will buy Natal for that reason alone, creating an install base of hard-core gamers for Natal who will then also share it with the rest of their casual-gamer family members.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

And now starts the manipulation...

[madmonkey0]

i am lost, will it take two players to be able to play hardcore games on natal then? one to dance about and the other to use a controller?

[XDF]

The Key Point here is Natal can read motion and controllers input simultaneously. Think of the possibilities.

[SaberEdge]

I agree. There are nearly limitless combinations that can be done using various elements of traditional physical controls and the new Natal technology. It isn't an either/or proposition. That is what excites me about it. I can see hardcore games as well as more casual games benefiting from this.

[madmonkey0]

if you think about it, that is the same as the PS3 and wii

[SaberEdge]

How are you going to be able to use a tradition controller at the same time you are holding motion tracking wands?

[Information Minister]

I think you're missing the point. What madmonkey is saying is that the main selling point of project natal is the absence of a physical controller. But if you have to use one in order to play games, then there goes the feature right out the window, putting project natal right in the same level as the Sony and Nintendo motion controllers.

But hey, what do I care? My opinion on motion controls is well know here.

[archemides518]

saberedge u dont' even need the wands for what the article say, ps eye alone can do head tracking DUH

[madmonkey0]

@saberedge,

you wouldnt need to use a traditional controller becuase the wii mote ,and PS3 thing have buttons. so they could be used as a normal controller.

like using the wii mote instead of a gamecube remote in a wii.

[rupi]

Haha. This is beyond awesome.

[Jockamo]

They are employing Epic, Rare, and Lionshead to make the first generation of these games, as confirmed in a recent article. I can see something hard core coming out of those studios.

I hope it'll be fun!

New Magic Carpet Game FTW!!

[Hiruma Youchi]

May I ask Why Is the ''Natal will have real hardcore games''

ON THE FRONT PAGE?

While the one who talked about sony motion cotroller will have Hardcore games that got approved a few minutes before this one NOT THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE ?

Mods still trying to Make N4G sony fanboys angry @ the x360 eh?

[XDF]

Let me see, because this Natal is more appealing, perhaps? Hey, we get KZ2 greatest FPS on Front page for the past 3-4 months, this is just a drip in the water compared to that. LMAO

[-MD-]

After hearing about Rare developing titles for this I really hope they don't make us play Perfect Dark 2 with motion controls.

Leave the hardcore games on the controller and make innovative games for natal.

[SaberEdge]

Trust me, Murderdolls, they will probably only use the aspects that work. It won't be completely controlled by motion and will likely have the option to choose between various control setups.

[-MD-]

I sure hope you're right.

[kevnb]

it seems like a pipe dream, I doubt they will even use it for much.

[Foxgod]

I even expect the possibility of dual controls, using a wireless controller and natal at the same time.

[likedamaster]

Murderdolls, you sound insecure. As stated in the article, it will never be just one type there will be a choice, whether motion controls or standard controller. Microsoft won't alienate gamers like Nintendo did.

Like we say in Puerto Rico, pull your pants up and man up. Microsoft has never let us down.

[-MD-]

Well I have every right to be worried about what my favorite developer is doing to my childhood franchises. It's this part that worries me "We'll have games that are specifically designed to work (only) with Natal - not just arcadey games, but real, hardcore, triple-A titles,"

I just don't want to see an article 3 months down the road titled "Perfect Dark 2 coming this Christmas on Natal"

You see what I'm saying?

[TheMART]

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argh.

By Watching the Games on the Wii

No more heroes
Madworld
Conduit
Resident evil Umbrella "

One difference: the Wii doesn't have any hardcore gamers on board. Only the nongamers overall.

and

"May I ask Why Is the ''Natal will have real hardcore games''

ON THE FRONT PAGE?

While the one who talked about sony motion cotroller will have Hardcore games that got approved a few minutes before this one NOT THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE ?

Mods still trying to Make N4G sony fanboys angry @ the x360 eh?"

Because more is clicked on Natal, especially also PS3 fanboys that want to cry about Natal being a PSeye rip-off. While the PS3 dildo is closer to the Wiimote.

[Nelson M]

You want Hardcore
Real AA Hardcore
Well seeing as your from Holland and you live near the Red Light District i can kinda see why
You Sick Freak

[Hiruma Youchi]

Ur Avatar is Nelson M. A Broke / Dirty A-hole / Stupid Kid in the Simpsons.

Seeing that your Judging people on where they Live , I can Confirm that you Live in a Junkyard that you call home near StupidRetardsLand

you moron.

edit: heres your Social Benifice needing Mother in your ''5* House''

http://images1.wikia.nocook...

[Nelson M]

HiruBot
Go Suck a leamon you Bitter Twisted Tart

"Ur Avatar is Nelson M"
No Sh!t Sherlock
How did you work that one out

" I can Confirm that you Live in a Junkyard "
Go on then Show me Confirmation

[Foxgod]

He doesnt need proof, all he needs is people that back up his statement.
I too say that your trailer trash living in a dump.

[SaberEdge]

It doesn't really matter whether Nelson M lives in a dump or not, everything that comes out of his mouth is still trash.

[TheMART]

Ah NelsonM

I see you like to talk about the red light district? Funny that you 12 year old get so hyped up about the RLD. Living close? Nah if you think 100km is close.

Well for you no RLD for sure, only being able to stick PS3's motion dildo up your ars!

[Model]

mart i left the money under your moms desk

[solidus1985]

LOL playing Halo with motion controls EPIC FAIL!
Driving in the air is also a complete and utter joke, nothing beats a steering wheel with force feedback.

Motion tech is best suited for casual games IMO

[Sarcasm]

They posted a video already on youtube of a concept of how Natal works with the controller. Pretty interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[silvacrest]

its been removed

[-MD-]

Link doesn't work.

[labwarrior]

They are making the basis for Natal use in games like Fable 3 and fingers crossed a possible KI3 or next gen Conker/Kameo

And of course they could outsource the results to other developers too later

I expect full use of Natal on next xbox too, the solution is totally all around one, and the only one that could really take off

[bunfighterii]

no controller required my ass. at least they realised you need one for a good core game. All it ends up being though is a tacked on gimmick. I'm not buying it.

[forcefullpower]

I find this rather ammusing that everyone has been going on about how great natal is and full body motion is the way forward and how PS3 motion controllers suck because you have to hold a controller.

Now your going on about how it will use controllers. Suddenly realised that you need to have some sort of controller to do other things

[XDF]

So we know Natal can use controllers but can the eyetoy function without the wand(s)? What if I want to play a soccer game, can the PS3 wand track my legs or body movement? heck no. So Natal gets the best of both worlds, also gesture/voice recognition and able to play at dim light setting.

[facelike]

@14.1

The eye toy will work just fine without the wand, just look at Eyepet. They made the wands because they themselves said that for some interactions, a person just needs some controller.

How would one pull the trigger on a gun when Natal will only read hand position, not finger position. There was a Microsoft rep who said it can read finger position, depending on the focus of the camera. In other words, if you want it to track your fingers, it would need to be up close to or focused on your fingers. The selling point of Natal is that you can do full body hardcore games, but this limits what can be done already.

Also the infamous Bam! shows that Natal has issue tracking a leg or hand behind of your body. If Natal doesn't see your hand, then it will loose its tracking until it gets a clear view of it. Imagine the same issue with u holding a gun forward to shoot something. How will it know your body from your hands?

[Timesplitter14]

I seriously doubt that.

I would like to see a good fighting game with Natal, though.

[bjornbear]

I couldn't sleep last night, and seeing this article just made my heart skip a beat....=P
/sarcasm

Interesting, hopefully it'll pan out better than Wii hardcore games...we all know how that went -_-

[Dante43]

No real hardcore gamer, but real loser gamer.

[shaun mcwayne]

ive been thinking for all the natal could do, one of the things ive been thinking of is that if ur playing a shooter could the game come bundled with a gun that can be tracked as well as ur body to give a cooler experience, think of spining ur gun after a kill, also on a driving game i could use my old mario kart wheel to give the feeling of holding a wheel, if ms can develop new contollers that work with certain games they could really cash in, dont get me wrong i love the no controller thing, but if natal can track anything they want it to, it could well shape gaming in the future.

[blizzard_cool]

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then...

[TheTruth89]

Bla Bla Bla MicroFake trying to re-hype this fake tech again...

poor looser

[OSIRUSSS]

If I had a choice between controller and Natal I would pick Controller and Own the Natal users in any game. Thats why this won't work.

[CypH]

than yes it will own in their own world, but in terms of real hardcore gamers, CONTROLLER FTW.

[ack591]

That's right. For hard core games, high precision controllers may be used to improve accuracy and gives better immersion. Guess what? those are sold separetely. Given MS notorious past, the controllers will be another rip off on gamers.

[maxcer]

im hoping that for some situations it will let you use the real life counterpart of the game your playing, for example a golf club, bat, tennis racket. just something for you to grasp instead of thin air... i can just imagine the types of things going through peoples TV's

[Double Toasted]

...but I really can't wait for Natal, its going to be off the hook(awesome).