E309: Gamespot's Big Three Breakdown-E3 Winner

Gamespot: Now that the big three have spoken its time to break them down and see who comes out in top.

" Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2,Forza 3,Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was project Natal"

Overall Winner: Microsoft

[kapedkrusader]

...except by Eyepet one year earlier. FAIL!!!

[edgeofblade]

Just like Eye of Judgement changed the way we all play, not just high school, card game outcasts?

And why would you bring up eyepet? Do you honestly want to compare eyepet and Natal? Hey, it's your funeral...

[NMC2007]

Eyepet is out?! I can't find it online or in stores, hm.
Oh you're talking about that announcement trailer last year huh?
Well hell, if that is indeed the case where the HELL is Eyedentify from 2005?

[Anon1974]

Was the Eyepet demo faked too?

[JokesOnYou]

Gamespot is officially back on the sdf black list. lol but seriously do we need anymore of these "who won" articles? Its clear most well known sites that aren't blogs written and posted by n4g members were more impressed with micro show.

I think the reason sony extremists are so pissed because judging by many of the usual suspects Jan-May 09 claims they expected sony to easily outdo micro at this years E3 because they incorrectly believed micro's silence about upcoming games meant "360 has no games" except for the previously announced ODST, well now 360 lineup is stellar and most of what is hyped for sony is still in the form of announcements, its OK thats just how sony rolls. No need for "I told you so" responses, Just give 'em a break. lol

JOY

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

ohhhh... you are so right! bubbles for you. Now I'm going to go play KZ2 after it patches and then try out Prince of Persia for my 360!!! ;)

Wii still gets no love from me, it is as if it is the unloved child right now.

[finbars75]

I havnt figure out why some of these reviewrs would even consider giving MS the win??? First off there project natal was smoke and mirrors.You actually have to show more then some videos of what this thing does which they really didnt do and what little bit they showed there was lag.Are you f$$cking kidding with me.The milo doesnt even work.Watch the video of the gentelman who made it and talks about it and watch how the boy responds to what she says and the movements the lady makes that werent even lined up properly.This is ridiculious.You Fanboys should be ashamed of yourselfs actually backing this crap up.The games they introduced werent even close to subpar.Alan Wake????Have you not played alone in the dark yet? what a rip off and it doesnt even look as good as there saying after 1 1/2 years.And please dont go on about MGS Rising which isnt even following the true mgs story another bite in the ass for MS and another bonus for sony pspgo with MGS peacewalker the true MGS franchise.Im tired of dealing with sloppy seconds from MS.Where was cliff????No gears 3 ouch that hurt.I have a xbox360 and im looking forward to Splinter Cell which plays very smooth and looks great but no game of the year.Halo odst plzzzzz been there done that and squeezed what was left out of that 4 years ago.I have to say MS show was well put together but to me it wasnt about the games and new crap ther putting out it was about how much money they wasted paying all these big names to come out and introduce multiplatform games, good job, shows how MS is getting more desperate to sell things that arent exclusive.They should of spent the money to get project natal working at 100% and show us the true motion capture sensor in show not on video.I feel like breaking my xbox360 in bits after all the bloody crap i saw and how these desperate reviewers giving us an opinion on soemthing that wasnt even there live.blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.Son ys show wasnt well put together but my god at least they had exclusives that looked good and there dildo motion controller was there live and looked dam good no matter how much those two monkey representing it looked.We all know that both MS and Sony have taken alot away from the wii and have made some good use from it by making it there own in there way.I must say nintendo hasnt been delivering of late.So in finishing the future of gamming is looking up and theres lots more in store for next years big show.I give Sony the win by a smiggen due to its new exclusives and in gameplay of EVERYTHING.

[SoulBrotha3292]

Ms winning E3 again and again..Sony fanboys are whining...also E3 is also just not bout exclusives lol You might have MORE exclusives, but it doesnt mean sony is better..MS made mouths drop and alot of ooo and ahhs..Its okay 2010 is the year of sony right??? LMAO

[kevnb]

Microsoft showed off a fine lineup of games, dont act like they didnt (typical sony fanboy making stuff up). If you think sonys games looked better, good for you.

[Cenobia]

Not trying to troll or anything, but what games were announced for the 360 that are even going to make it before 2010? Natal sounds great and all, but if it even manages to make it this year what kind of games can you expect from it?

Most of the defensive people here were saying "wait til E3" when confronted with the 360s lackluster 09 line up. Now that a camera and multiplatform announcement have been made suddenly the 360 is back on top again. Where are the exclusives?

I realize I'm biased because all I really cared about was 'The Last Guardian', but I just don't see how MS is always perceived as the "winner" when they barely ever announce real exclusive games.

[Nathan123]

Boy if Apple joins the Gaming industry and shows up at E3, it will steal the show always cause it can market 10 times better than M$ and a 100 times better than Sony... Geez. Wooing crowd=Win for most people. Sorry not for me.

M$ won in the hardware department and Sony won in the Software department. Disagree, but Sony did show more games and better exclusives. It just didn't have the Omph factor that M$ had (Speilberg and Beetles).

I must say M$ did a great thing marketing Natal. Ya, normal people don't understand the difference between real time and video shot. People still think Milo will have a super computer AI... sigh.

Ya so cheers 360 fanboys. The thing that you boycotted and cursed for so long (Motion Gaming) has finally earned the distinguishing property at E3. Get Natal out of the equation (ya ditching the Sony controllers as well) and the balance just weighs in Sonys favor due to the software.

E3 has always been about games...At least for me. I won't even buy the Sony controllers when they come out, but whats ironic is the fact that before E3 all fanboys (PS3 included) boycotted the motion gaming aspect and suddenly, if the thing adds brownie points to the 360's E3 win or loss, then why not hype it to be the biggest thing....Pretty lame

[kevnb]

and failed, I doubt they will try again anytime soon. Heck they cant even compete with windows at all in the gaming side of things.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

{1. Xbox360 fanboy argument: "Buh buh E3 only matters when it comes to NEW annoucnements sony fanboys already knew about Heavy Rain, Uncharted, MAG"

Contradictory reaction:

Alan Wake, Halo:OSD, Halo:Reach, Forza3, Splinter Cell. All known about and leaked before E3.

}

{2. Xbox360 fanboy argument from the history of N4g: "LOL Motion controls = GIMMICK. The wii is garbage, and 6axis is useless, eyepet is stupid too, who cares about sketching stuff and having something scan it in? to do what.. watch movies? bwuhauhahaaaa"
2b. Subargument: "Lol using CGI to promote KZ2 as real! hahahaaaa"

Contradictory recation:

Natal, 1 game hitting balls. Hitting water, (like in Aquatopia PSN/PSEye game). Using motion controls period is now apparently the hottest thing in gaming now that Microsoft is showing off what Eyepets trailer does, watching cgi commercials and tech demos that were pawned off as real.

}

{3. Xbox360 Fanboy argument: "LOL @ MGS4, who on EARTH wants to watch a 90 hour movie made by Kojima? We have SPLINTER CELL! Which is a much better franchise. In fact, its the best stealth game ever created. If I wanted to watch a movie, I'd go to the theater."

Contradictory Reaction:

(Multiplatform Metal Gear Rising) First: "Yes take that you stupid ____ you said it would be impossible to run MGS4 on.. wait.. Kojima isn't directing it? and neither is the MGS4 team..?"

}

{4. Xbox360 Fanboy argument, you can say this one with me class...: "I BOUGHT A CONSOLE TO PLAY GAMES, NOT WATCH MOVIES!!!! HAHAHA BLUCRAP HDVD IS THE WAY TO GO!!!!!"

Contradictory Reaction:

Instant 1080p movies(which no one has been able to do with modern technology, but M$ is claiming they are going to do it without any compression), yessss! Netflix, YES!!!!!, Renting movies with no option to buy them, YES!!!!!, Hulu, Yess!!!!! Facebook, YESSS!!!!! Literally watching movies with avatars(see LOL @ home and why I'd ever want a digital avatar on a game console, such a stupid concept) Yes!!!!

}

// And there you have it. Microsofts heart stopping E3. With the least game content they've ever had. Underwhelming footage of Alan Wake and SPlintercell: Which is why all stories are frozen and more people still care about MGS:Rising than them, they didn't pwn Killzone2 or Uncharted when it came to visuals, or even Infamous.

Its sad that the state of gaming is still biased against Sony. Its sad that 360 fans now with no new game lineup, are hoping that Motion controls will justify their purchase of a bug laden unique softwareless system. Its sad that the state of gaming has sony announcing Rockstar's new exclusive game, and yet.. it still doesn't matter because Sony "lied". Its sad that a Playstation device will be the home to Kojimas true MEtal Gear sequel, and that it doesn't matter again because Sony lied. Resident evil, one of the biggest multiplatform most buzzed about releases ever, but no one cares now that its just sony. These things and much more were all announced at E3, if you're a gamer and you are pretending M$ had more "gaming" to show off at e3, you're a total moron. I'm sorry. M$ wins a game show with pre-rendered videos of motion technology, and an already announced MULTIPLATFORM lineup?

and oh yeah the big "show stealer" of last year was a multiplatform Final Fantasy Game... and Sony just announced FF14/MMO and the crowd goes silent? As if FFonline wasn't huge before WoW..

Sony dropped Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Rockstar exclusives. Actual Working Game Applicable fps/tps motion technology, on TOP of what we already knew about the PS3 with Uncharted, Heavy Rain, MAG, ModoCars, GOW3. Yet motion controls and less games is what gamers want? And oh yeah Lost Planet 2?

are you kidding me?

[FrankenLife]

Gamespot, you sir are a whore. You ought to call the bug man because your crotch is a hive.

[ultimolu]

Examples of how 360 fanboys attacked PS3 fans: The PS3 has no games, it's a bluray player, Sony will forever remain in 3rd, Sony doomed the PS3, the PS3 is the delaystation, waitstation, PS3 fans bought a $600.00 bluray player, Killzone 2 sucks, Resistance 2 sucks, Little Big Planet didn't sell five million at launch, Killzone 2 didn't sell five million at launch...

Should I go on?

The way you talk about PS3 fans...you're making 360 fanboys look like saints when they did the exact same thing.

Guess what? Who won E3 is a matter of opinion. What matters are the games.

This is getting out of hand now.

Keep slamming those disagrees.

YOU CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG.

That's what kills you.

[FamilyGuy]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

times 2

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-3426...

[All Time Greatness]

All I know is I'm more than happy to have Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Halo ODST, Left 4 Dead 2, Forza 3, Alan Wake, Halo Reach, Magna Carta 2, Shadow Complex, Crackdown 2, Halo: Reach, 1080p instant streaming without any buffering, 1 vs. 100, 2 Modern Warfare Exclusive map packs while everyone else waits....best version of a big majority of multiplatform titles and new material to Xbox Live party system.

I wouldn't doubt Micro holding back announcements for games like Gears of War 3 and much more for next year also. Gonna be an awesome 2009/2010 for gamers. :D

[pippoppow]

PC has the best version. Multiplats are a give and take difference between the PS3 and 360. As always, until this gen according to 360 diehards EXCLUSIVE TITLES define a system. Every gen consoles would have their must have exclusive titles that can only be played on that system but now MS would have people think it's not important anymore. Wonder why. PS3 has the most exclusive games and those games are much more varied compared to the competitions and can only be played on the PS3 and nowhere else. Exclusive games are where it's at and the PS3 delivers the most. Features are nice but pale in importance compared to the games, especially exclusive games.

[user3915800]

Get over it, they lost and thats another blow to all of the wait until e3 comes up MS dont have any games. End result Ms beat everybody straight out of the gates and the sony followers have no choice, but to place individuals remarks as to why my barbeque grill its better. Just stay off and bow your heads MS won and thats a fact.

[Sarcasm]

Wow Casey pretty much put it spot on. And they call PS3 fanboys extremists? God I wish some of these people who look at "Sony Fanboys" today take a look back in 2006-2007 on the kind of crap 360 fans were putting out.

They downplayed EVERYTHING sony puts out. But once it arrives on their system, all of a sudden it's relevant and "better."

The popular ones were "PS3 has no games, 360 graphics are better, PS3 is a $600 blu-ray player, PSN sucks." And for some reason, it's STILL going on today.

[FamilyGuy]

I can't disagree with that, as a gamer you SHOULD be happy with that line up of games

But my list is still bigger:
http://n4g.com/up/22832/lis...

Feature wise:
"1080p instant streaming without any buffering,"
Blu-ray, check
How much is this service going to cost BTW?

1 vs. 100, 2 Modern Warfare Exclusive map packs while everyone else waits
Map packs, something you'll get to PAY FOR first. Lucky you, we can play our other FULL games being released while you hold out for you DLC

"....best version of a big majority of multiplatform titles and new material to Xbox Live party system."
Arguable, the 360 versions have texture pop-in issues and screen tearing against the PS3s...um jaggies/AA problems?

[thesummerofgeorge]

I wouldn't go to Gamespot.... Obviously they're niether right nor wrong, it's an opinion piece, but regardless, I can't be sure if it's an honest opinion or not, because we all know the sites that have a favorite console for whatever reason, legit or not, and I think most would agree Gamespot generally favors Microsoft. But hell there's a "Sony won", and a "Nintendo won" article below this one if this one doesn't tell you what you wanna hear.

I won't comment on who "won" or which out did which, but I will give my honest opinion, which is that I'm more excited about the games coming out for the PS3, and I never mind waiting, as long as in the end I have what I consider to be the best experience, what I enjoy most. The Last Guardian and God of War 3 alone would have made up my mind, but from Heavy Rain, to Uncharted 2, to Gran Turismo 5, my mouth was watering so to speak... and the list goes on. Not to say Microsoft didn't peak my interest, I'm super jealous I won't be able to play Mass Effect 2 among other things, but I usually base my decision heavily on exclusives, as I believe they're what truly shows off what each individual machine does best, and I'm just more excited for Sony's exclusives.

As for Natal and Sonys motion wands, assuming Natal works as described, although one could argue it's more innovative and exciting, it's just not my cup of tea, I like playing with a controller, as my favorite games would work best FOR ME with a controller of sorts. I thought Sony's motion wands, while not a new idea, but an idea improved upon, looked more practical for my purposes, I picture it having more use for a broader range of games, like a lightsaber battle, or a fps. This doesn't mean I think one's better than the other, they're just different, and I'm not a big fan of using your body in front of a camera to control, that's why I never cared for the playstation eye, or eyetoy. And while I think the vocal tone recognition tech is really cool, I don't think it's mutually exclusive with the camera, I think it Milo as well as other apps could use the voice tech as well as use a controller and be just as cool, and that could be achieved with only a mic.

Anyway, this is just an opinion, just like the article, but innovation is always good (until the machines become self aware), regardless of what company is responsible for that innovation, so kudos to Microsoft for thinking outside the box. But this guy right here is a longtime fan of Sony (since PS1 and the Walkman)for the reasons I mentioned, no not a fanboy, just a fan.

[fuckoffodion]

you fell on your head again genius.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Another article stating Microsoft won E3? CHECK!
Sony fans crying and whining? CHECK

Oh yeah this is soooooo sweet! :)

[thesummerofgeorge]

Well that was the most fanboyish thing you could say... Who's dumb for choosing the console that suits their taste best? Who are you to tell someone they're dumb because they don't share your taste? You're the epitome of an obnoxious fanboy. Really, you truly are.

EDIT: I see you edited your comment, good for you... Still obnoxious and fanboyish, but hey you're getting there. Keep trying.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Personally for me, MS showed me games I was interested in and things that are coming up soon. I mean in the next 12 months. They also showed an innovative and I wouldn't stretch it too far by saying Natal was rather impressive. MS in recent times after a few marketing fiasco of showing stuff too early, they only show stuff that is about to release soon.... so I expect Natal soon probably no later than 18 months tops.

Sony on the other hand went with the traditional approach, show a bunch of games that aren't likely to come out soon. Impressive, YES! Did I like GoW3 and Uncharted 2. Yes! We got dates for those two games, Yes! Bunch of stuff we didn't get dates as usual, Yes! GT5 more showing, but no going (i.e. no game release yet). PSP Go, not so much, but this is normally big news a new handheld release. The two "magic" wands, maybe since I have seen it in the Wii. That is why I felt it wasn't as impressive as MS. If either technology applies to remains to be seen.

Let me know when it is close to release. Not 3-4 years in advance. I'm not going to wait and I don't have the patience.

Of course, winning is just depending on the metric! Most games, most increase in sales, most marketing buzz, most innovative.... take your pick and ignore these articles. They really provide little value.

[Why o why]

gamespot are entitled to their 'opinion'

[SaberEdge]

Wow, the PS3 fanboys prove their lack of integrity and honesty time and time again. They simply can't recognize anything good Microsoft does. Sony could have showed up with 3 games and the Sony loyalists would still be claiming Sony won.

Get over it. Microsoft had an awesome lineup of games and new features for the console. They had the best showing. It's not the end of the world. Sony had a good showing too.

[cmrbe]

gamespot is legit again right x360 trolls? lol!.

I respect their opinion but as a PS3 and PC owner. Sony's conference was better because of the games. With the small x360 game lineup i could play half of them on my PC.

[Death]

Unless someone was giving out prizes that I didn't know about. If you are a Playstation fan, Sony won. If you are an Xbox fan it was Microsoft and if you love your Wii it was Nintendo.

There was no clear winner or company that made the others look bad. They all had a great showing for their fans. Is that so bad?

-Death

[cmrbe]

Always the most logical person hehe.

If everyone is like you N4G would be more civilized but where is the fun it that!! lol!. Bubbs man.

[talltony]

but microsoft did not win "GAME WISE". Sony clearly had the better games! Thats a fact! Natal + a solid game lineup won it for microsoft!

[onanie]

Saber, for someone who never lets up on downplaying PS3's advantages, and always eager to praise 360, you fit the very definition of what you say you despise - fanboy. That also makes you a hypocrit, the worst kind of fanboys.

[jmare]

Nobody is going to convince anyone else to think like you that doesn't think that way already, so...

[fuckoffodion]

he's also one of the worst fanboys here. He can try to deny it but he's not fooling anyone except his XDF buddies.

[mintaro]

So the general consensus is that MS won. Have to say I agree.

[xabmol]

and they win?

Wow!!

I thought they won because they had Yoko Ono there for RB: The Beatles. xD

[edgeofblade]

noooo.... they make an eyetoy with 3D infrared scanning that works, no matter how crappy the lighting is.

...you know, just like the NOT-A Eyetoy.

[Christopher]

A bit of clarification.

They make two infrared cameras that enable the ability to triangulate motion on three axis (x, y, and z) to extrapolate 3d data.

What I wonder is with body movement capturing is if you have to be scanned in with your arms and legs spread out before each game session so it can properly track cross body movements (crossing arms and legs for example).

[36T]

It seems to me that quite a few of the "known" gaming web sites are all choosing the same winner. What happened fanboys? Did they all get it wrong? Are they paid by Microsoft?

Sony shat the bed and everybody not wearing Sony labeled glasses know's this. PSP-go for $250!! IMO, that was the funniest part of the Sony press conference. They just don't seem to get it. That purple tipped dildo could do some wonders on the shelves of sex shops though.

Oh well, there is always next year. Oh wait, they already announced the games that will be at next years E3 at this year's E3. Funny stuff! Keep it going Sony, i'm having a blast!

[Chicken Chaser]

MS paid every single site with a their kabillion dollar checks!

They actually think that haha

[Christopher]

Microsoft won based on technology that has been around for years now, and yes, on the PS3. Sure, they improved it a bit, but that isn't really what won them. It's the fact that Sony does a piss pore job of advertising their wares in comparison to Microsoft.

All those videos on YouTube being linked are games that do the same as the 'proven' abilities of Project Natal, they're not fake. The problem? No one really plays them at all. Eye of Judgement and its ability to read cards? Who cares. That video showing a guy draw a tank, scan it, and then use it in a multiplayer tank battle game? Who cares, it never went beyond YouTube.

So, I'm fine with Microsoft stealing the show, but I shake my head at the fact that the only reason they steal the show is because Sony does a piss pore job of advertising what they can provide and what their products do, outside of play Blu-ray discs. Though this year's E3 was much better for them, they need to keep it up in order to have any chance against the great marketing the Microsoft puts out every year.

[edgeofblade]

Whoa, Sony didn't have a "bad" outing. I don't want people to get the wrong idea. Sony did a great job, and I'm holding MS and Sony roughly equal coming out of this show.

I really didn't see anything that should push one co. over the other, but the masses have spoken. MS won, even though they only got half a vote from me.

[Christopher]

Prove to me that Sony advertises and markets their products on an equal level as Microsoft in the U.S. Please, prove it.

Compare what Sony does to what Microsoft did with Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Rockband Beatles Edition @E3, Natal @E3 (they didn't roll out a cart with wires and glowing controllers, that's for sure), Fable 2, and so on.

I love my PS3 and it's my platform of choice (though I own a 360 for some titles, such as Mass Effect), but Sony really lacks in general for advertisement and marketing in North America (I can't speak for other countries).

[Christopher]

WTH? Piss pore? Did I really type that twice? I need some meds.

[pippoppow]

It lacked in exclusive gaming content. What maybe a few games are true exclusives. The meat and potatoes of E3 is about the games and Sony handely trumped the 360, regardless of what games were known about or not. Those millions MS probably wasted on the show probably could have been used for games but MS knows how to market their products to help gloss over any cracks. They wow them with multiplatform games and tech demos to hide the fact of a minuscule exclusive games lineup.

[JL]

I do agree that Sony is light years behind MS at this point in marketing. That is just an indisputable fact right there. And I also agree, for the most part MS didn't bring anything new to the table here. You, go on youtube and you can fine the eyetoy doing stuff like this for the longest now. It just never got as much attention. Where I disagree with you is that I don't think it's so much marketing that supposedly "won" this for MS in these people's eyes. Rather it's showmanship. Like one guy way up above said (though I don't think he really understood that what he saying was a rip on MS), "MS is like a kiss concert, the music isn't that good but they put on one hell of a show". For me, I think that defines MS very existence. Anybody who is honest with themself has to admit that MS hasn't put out a product that, to some degree, is truly good since like...what....Windows 3.0? They've been coasting on three things since then: money, power that comes with that money....and showmanship. They are the ultimate at the glass and mirrors show. And they're damn good at it too. Hell, when you're putting out shoddy products and trying to monopolize industries, you have to be. They're very good at promising people the world that they can't deliver. Making everything they touch look like it's the best thing since sliced bread and getting everyone caught up in the glitter and glamour of it all. I think THAT is where MS really excels. They could tape a horn to a horse's head and convince the masses that it's a unicorn and have them eating it up too (at least until they're already sucked in and it's too late, at which MS tends to stop catering to you). So they're damn good at what they do, showmanship and marketing (making people say "oooh" and "aaaah" while the man behind the curtain snickers and pulls the levers (that's a wizard of oz allusion, not a natal reference by the way lol). So yes, i agree MS marketing gets them a LOOOONG way, but it's also in collusion with their showmanship that they do what they do.

[Christopher]

In business, what you described as showmanship is called marketing :p

Marketing involves not only how you advertise, but how you present your products, how you spin your statistics, what you will use to sell your products, synergistic elements among products, and more.

[JL]

Yes I'm fully aware of this. Just there are many facets of marketing, and I felt that the showmanship (in this "omg look at their technology that's old but they totally pull off as new and innovative" scenario) is really the part of the marketing game that everybody gets caught up in. A subgenre if you will. Sort of like how you can't just call Tool, rock music, rather got to break it down to something like progressive rock or such. Just driving deeper to the root of the problem that people are getting so caught up in this situation. Rather than say, everybody and their mom buying Halo because they can't even have a drink without it right there in their face. This big exorbitant grandiose show they put on that people get all wrapped up in. Just flat out misleading.

You're right though. It's all marketing. I was just tired at the moment and went off on a lil tirade, getting into more detail about it. Not sure why I said "i disagree" rather than "i'd like to expand upon that". I'm going to chalk it up to the sleep deprivation lol. I do hate MS with a passion though so i tend to go off a bit when it comes to stuff like this and how people just eat it up.

[Sonyslave3]

MS won E3 almost ever known gaming sites said MS won E3 hands down lol at fanboys saying MS paid them off.

[Chicken Chaser]

They won @ : Gamespot, 1UP, Gametrailers ,G4TV and GamePro...anything else?

[Dread]

cnet also said ms won

[36T]

The disagrees are cracking me up over here. Just the thought of some loser disagreeing with the truth proves how much of a Sony fanboy he is. Just send Sony an application! Put on you're Killzone T-shirt, Little Big Planet undies and the Sony labeled shades you're mama bought for you and i'm sure they will hire you on the spot! Just do us all a favor when you get in, leak the GT5 release date! ;)

[Sonyslave3]

MS wins!
Flawless victory!

[deadreckoning666]

I agree Microsoft won, but for you to say Sony isn't competition is beyond retarded.

[deadreckoning666]

Yes Microsoft had the best CONFERENCE, but who has the better games???
The fact that you care more about a how well a conference went, than who had the better games tells me that ur not a real GAMER....Seriously.

God of War 3 vs. Left 4 Dead 2

Uncharted 2 vs. Crackdown 2

GT5 vs. Forza 3

Heres a good one:
Joyride vs. Modnation Racers

I thk u get were this is going :) I can't wait to hear u BS comments when Uncharted 2 wins Game of the Year.

[mintaro]

Why you chose to compare those games, when they have almost no similariteies whatsoever is pretty stupid. Especially since you're comparing a free to play XBL arcade racer (joyride) with a full priced game in Modnation.

Although I will say, uncharted 2 looks damn sweet.

[Xi]

well joyride is free to every 360 owner.

and what about splinter cell conviction? alan wake? mass effect 2? Halo odst?

I see where this is going, too.

Want to know why I think MS won the hardcore gamer? Because they provided release dates for the games they showed.

When is gt5 coming out? tba. Last gardian? tba. God of war? tba rumored for march 2010. MAG? q3 2009.

Not a single specific street date announce.

then look at MS, only alan wake and mass effect don't have accurate street dates.

Forza 3? October 27, 2009. halo odst? September 22, 2009. Splinter cell conviction? October 2009. L4D2? November 17, 2009.

It's great to get a lot of game announcements but what use are they if the games themselves don't get released for 3 or 4 years?

[Sonyslave3]

God of war VS L4d2 lol l4d 2 is coming out this year so l4d 2 so what point of this VS.

GT5 vs FM3 lol FM3 coming out this year i can't say the same for GT5.

Uncharted 2 vs Splinter cell conviction & halo 3 odst.

joy rider is free lol

[JeffGUNZ]

haha yeah, but the conference is about GAMES. So, to say they had the best conference is saying they ultimately had the best to offer. This E3 is for 2009, not 2010. Most of Sony's games are 2010, that is why the 360 won, they actually showed games coming out THIS YEAR.

This is typical sony. January 1, 2009, Sony releases all these games coming out sometime in 2009...As the year reaches it's halfway point, Sony realizes those games are getting pushed back and now they look moronic.

Seriously though, for 2009, show me the GREAT games that Sony has coming out. When 2010 roles around, have the GT5 and GOW3 debate at NEXT YEARS E3, when Microsoft shows what they have. See, Microsoft waits till E3 to show off games, so they know what will be released and what will not make it for the year, and that's why they always throw an excellent show. Sony takes the cat out of the bag immediately at the beginning of the year to only put it back in at E3. History repeats this year after year. Microsoft won this year, plain and simple.

PS. I think the Professionals at gamerpro and G4, and 1up all know and have a better understanding than you.

[36T]

If Microsoft announced their games three years in advance, everybody would be talking about the Xbox line up. Sure, Sony has a great line up in 2010. Is it better the Microsoft's? Nobody knows because we will only find out months before release and not years.

Uncharted 2 & God of War 3 do look awesome though. Will i go out and buy a PS3 for those two games, hell no! I`ll pass or play them at a friends place.

I simply have no need for two consoles and a PC. My group of friends all have the 360 with about half of them owning a PS3. Guess which console they prefer? I'll give you a hint. They can all afford fifty dollars a year for a superior online service.

btw.. did you just compare Uncharted 2 with Crackdown 2? LMAO!!

[rupi]

Come on man L4D2 vs God of War III, I mean come on. Genres are completely different although I think that L4D2 is a much more enjoyable experience and I think it is a pretty good contender for GOTY.

[edgeofblade]

*facepalm*

We aren't rating the stages, or how many screens, or what celebrities they had on stage. We are rating the games and their announcements. You can't say "games trump all, and Sony had the best games". Yes, games trump all, but why do we have to agree with you that Sony has the best games? I couldn't disagree more!

[Unicron]

Both had great games. MS is winning "best conference" from many sites based on future tech. That's nice, but for someone like me who doesn't give a damn about motion controls, Sony and MS didn't do much for me in that department. Weird though, that consistently it seems to be Sony who is getting the awards for best game/games of show, with Uncharted 2 cleaning up left and right.

Sadly, MS STILL didn't entice me to pay for their system, since I can get those "XBox 360 exclusives" on my PC. Still, Natal looks hot, and I'm curious to see future applications of it. In the meantime? Bring on Conviction and Alan Wake, can't wait!

Also, for everyone talking dates -

http://kotaku.com/5283056/e...

It's more even than many let on.

[Xi]

Many games with a TBA that were announced this year may never make it to release in 2010. I highly doubt a game like last guardian will make it in 2010 knowing the amount of polish that team ico puts on their games. Same goes for crackdown which has a TBA as well. It may be released early 2011 or something.

[interrergator]

this is just and expo not a contest who shows better stuff microsoft and sony showed good sh!t

[kewlkat007]

....lol

When it comes to those without Xbox 360's, it seems like, many are the biggest most hardcore PC gamers around, yet PC game articles barely get 20 comments...lol

Top 3 Hottest PC news(4:00 pm EST)

-Valve: 'Ton' of content makes L4D2 to...(53 comments)
-Star Wars: TOR Dev Talks Trooper Crea...(12 Comments)
-StarCraft Wins Guinness World Record ...(14 comments)

As always, the the PC/Console Exclusive(360) games, gets more looks.

darkride66 "I find that Sony fans are usually the most rational gamers,"

-haha that made my day...

[kevnb]

ppl mostly come here to drool over all things sony and to bash all things xbox.

[rupi]

I want Splinter Cell: Conviction! Obviously Microsoft won this year just because of the barrage of announcements. Sony's conference would have improved a lot if they announced a price cut for the PS3 so that I can finally get one without spending a bleeding fortune.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

MS fanboys websites like CNET or vgchartz (see their poll on E3) said Sony won, so I guess they're right. If even MS themselves say it, it must be true.

People on Neogaf and N4G also agree according to threads. Mostly, people admit Sony won.

Final Fantasy 14, PSP Go, Gow 3 and uncharted 2 vs a Eyetoy ripoff with a fake video and a ridiculous demo (Bam ! I'm still laughing at that one)... I definitely agree.

Microsoft announced basically nothing except a MGS action spinoff (multiplatform again) and a Eyetoy ripoff...

No Gears 3, no Halo 4, no nothing... Still not much in sight for Xbox owners, while in 2009 PS3 owners already enjoyed multiple AAA games like Infamous, Killzone 2, Flower or MLB 09 the show...

[rupi]

wow, you seem to be a real fanboy as you seem to forget, Halo:ODST, Halo: Reach, Splinter Cell: Conviction AND L4D2.

EDIT @ POWER_OF_FLOPS below me
L4D2 certainly is not an 'expansion pack'
http://exophase.com/xbox360...

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

Halo: Reach is dated for 2010, which is much better than all the Sony exclusives which are TBA.

Also Splinter Cell: Conviction looks f**king awesome as does L4D2

[Power_Of_Flops_]

Only Halo : reach and L4D2 weren't already known... And even like that, L4D2 looks like a DLC since the first just came out. And Halo Reach is for 2010/2011...

I though Halo ODST didn't look that good either, plus it's only an expansion... : /

All in all, an average show by MS in my opinion, not terrible but not so great either due to the lack of games. (no AAA exclusive since last november on the 360, that's a bit sad...)

[joevfx]

this is getting ridiculous already. do you sheep really think natal is gonna work the pay u have it pictured in your head? ITS NOT!!!!! microsoft if playing you tools. WAKE UP!!!!!! thats what microsoft does with all there products. ill give them this... they have great marketing, cause it continually fools all there customers out there. because of that Natal will sell liek crazy. But i bet you all those natal's will collect dust on hardcore gamers TVs

[ultimolu]

Just let it go.

Nobody's going to listen.

[Gue1]

so true.

[Bladestar]

lol! Aren't you frustrated... if I were you... I would be too. It does not pay to be a Sony leg humper these days.

Here is what you fail to understand. The PS3, XBox 360 and Wii are all entertainment devices... there is no "fools" out there... but only consumers and gamers that buy these consoles to entertain themselves.

If more people are buying xbox 360 and are believed on the games and technologies microsoft is giving them over what Sony is offering it's nothing more than just that.

You Sony leg humpers make it seem as if people do not buy PS3 and play Sony games they are missing out as if only Sony can provide "fun" and entertainment.

Entertainment is a pastime a distraction not a job... many people play games others paint, etc... So, what it comes down to is... companies like Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft compete to grab as much marketshare they can and convince people to spend the entertainment time people have available with the console they sell.

So, in reality it does not matter if you have fun with Gears, Kill Zone 2, Halo 3 or freaken Hulk... Fun is fun...

The only relevance to console war is:

The more people buy a console the more developer support that console will have.. which in terms means the more games that specific console gamer can play without having to buy another console.

If a console manage to capture enough marketshare to make profits and have a solid revenue stream.. than it ensure future iteration like the xbox 720, wii 2.0 or PS4... which means that gamers owners that are happy with the console at least can hope there will be a next one.

So, get over it... People aren't buying more PS3 than xbox 360 or wii because they are dumb and you are smarter or special but simply because what Sony is offering is failing to convince the media and the people to spend their money on Sony's products over other alternatives.

Let's face it... you are easier to convince to buy Sony products which is why somehow you ask yourself, "Why can't people see the miracle and power of Sony products and run and buy 10 PS3.. as I would do."...

So, let me put it in a way you can probably understand it.

This time around Sony has the least appealing console to the mass market... because of the decisions they made and the combination of various factors...

You and the rest of Sony leg humper in this site are the Minority of the Mass Market gamer... Nothing you do will change anything... and it does not matter if you hate the xbox 360 and it's games... it does not matter if you love what Sony is making.. or giving you... to the rest of the world... it matter to you... which is great.. but it does not matter or make a difference outside of this website and your own little tiny world.

[Boty]

For someone who seems to have a lot of games to play you seem to have enough time to right a FREAKING WALL OF TEXT. You my friend take this stuff WAY to seriously. I suggest you get a job. Or tell your crazy little theories to people who care.

Once again people, Its just a website's opinion. Don't base it as fact or you will internally hurt yourself.

*EDIT*
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People I know you will want to Kill the Bladestar guy but just ignore him please.

Let me repeat something I said in one of my earlier post...

'I Enjoy engaging in a intelligent conversation with anyone about video games as long as it stays opinion based and doesn't involve the "Well this game is better because its the best FPS ever made..." comments.

I really hate when people say something about someone thats not true just because they own a specific console. That always seems to get things going as far as fanboys goes. For example:

"Those [Place Fanboy type here] are so gay because he/she has a [Console Goes Here] and enjoy playing [Place game here]".

Why must people say something bad about someone just because they have or enjoy using a specific console? I don't get it.

And yes I do get a little bit fanboyish myself, but its kind of hard not to when you read some of these really horrible comments.'

[joevfx]

see your an idiot. I have a 360. I play it as much as i do my PS3. im just calling out how dumb people are when they see a new tech from a company that continues to piss on there customers. im not dissing the 360 , i like the console and the games. im talkign about microsoft. they completey played everyone at E3 with a big light show and celebarties, when you really really think about it, they didnt show anything that is worth a real gamers time other then Alan wake.

they are so damn predictable. all they show at every conference is gears of war stuff, halo stuff and new useless dashboard updates. here ill be a psycic, ready.... Next E3 i predict halo 4 , gears of war 3.

im just a 360 fan who isnt falling for microsofts magic show.

[CypH]

UP!!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

"For someone who seems to have a lot of games to play you seem to have enough time to right a FREAKING WALL OF TEXT"

Did you even look at the comment you wrote or ever click on your own user name and read the books you type? Droids are the biggest hypocrites in gaming, thats a fact.

[Man_of_the_year]

The guy has 2 bubbles left because ignorant droids are trying to shut his logical thinking up. If he wants to get his point across he needs to use his sparingly thus typing a large text. I don't mind it cause its simply just level headed comments for a mature audience which clearly you are trying to censor from this site. If you had it your way, this site would be even more plagued with pathetic ignorant sony fanboys talking noting but BS and trying to brainwash other gamers who are new to the industry and try to get them to join into your collective sony driven mind.

[Boty]

IF you look how often I'm on this site commenting you will notice that its not often at all, compared to you morons anyways. I'm usually (a)working or (b)Playing my games.
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@Man of the Year: Oh yea, I truly want people to join my Sony Cult

(-_-)

/sarcasm

[Man_of_the_year]

So for a guy that is not on this website very often...why do you care so much about ignoring what Bladestar's opinion is? Why do you want people to ignor him rather than counter his opinion? Why are you trying to sensor a site that you seldom visit? People have their opinions and Bladestar's opinion is a valid, logical reasonable opinion. If you ignor his opinion then you are stuck with the same bias Sony Droid opinions flooding this site even more so...how does that help the industry eh Boty...or should i say....HITLER?

[joevfx]

why does microsft need to bring the beatles and spielberg on stage? CAUSE ITS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS U MORONS. cause when you dont have a product, have big names come on stage to make it sound like you have a product. its typical marketing crap and all you idiots fell for it. haha I bet all you idiots bought windows vista too, HAHAHAHAHA!!! please wake up and smell the reality people.

[Topshelfcheese]

This is pretty dumb all around. This isn't a sporting event with set rules and a final score. Its peoples individual opinion on who they think had a better show. If you need a website to agree with you, than I feel sad for your existence.

Be gamers first and stop with all the damn hate people.

[Real gamer 4 life]

As for as presentation microsoft won but when it comes down to content and exclusive sony won.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I agree with this article and a lot of the reasons I felt MS won. They delivered new games, new tech and new features to XBL. Disappointed Sony had nothing for PSN feature announcements.

Sony and Nintendo did great as well regardless.

[ajay_solidsnake]

What is wrong with the website...i just wanted to disagree on one of the xbots comments so i clicked on it what happened next is it shows that i agreed to some other comment which was also favouring 360. This happened to me 3 or 4 times...WHAT's WORNG !!!

[djroberts]

I don't get how MS won going up against GoW3, Uncharted 2, GT5, Ratchet, and even Fat Princess.

I've been playing the Uncharted 2 MP beta and it's awesome. If the SP game is as good as Uncharted 1 we're looking at a game of the year.

Since when should winning be about the hype rather than the games. Did MS just have better music and more colors at their show?

Well, I know who won it for me. I own all 3 consoles and my first place easily goes to Sony.

[Xi]

People have different tastes in games.

For example I've always like Splinter cell more than metal gear, and ninja gaiden more then god of war.

I also thought gears of war 2 was better then uncharted, so I'm not completely excited about what sony had to offer. (it's an opnion I don't really care if you agree or disagree)

The reason MS won wasn't because of the games, since which games we think are better isn't quantifiable. I think both provided an excellent assortment of titles. I think Microsoft won because of other things they did.

Getting kojima producing games on the 360
providing more upgrades to the xbox live experience via social networking
providing more release dates on their games.

Showing a lot of games is great, but showing some great games that I can get right now is even better IMO.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

whats funny is they so happy people said they won. they on here 24/7 while most ps3 gamers are playing actually games now instead of talking about them

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And what does that say to about all the PS3 fans that live on this site? All they do is talk. Sounds to me like you're just pissed that most sites feel MS is the winner of E3 and you couldn't think of anything to say. "Xbots" only talk about games and "Sony fans" play them but yet this site has more Sony fans "talking" ??? Whats real funny is when this year started you droids made claim that the 360 had no games in 09, and now the 360 has more :) Thats got to hurt.

[Boty]

I could gladly give up checking out this site for a while to, instead, play my games. In fact I have before. I could, along with all of everyone who agrees with me, give you this site and every site to all the 360 Fanboys, such as yourself, while we play great video games Such as Killzone 2, Home, Resistance 1 & 2, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted 1, GT5:P, Infamous, FFXII, MGS4, and along with the upcoming Uncharted 2, MAG, Agent, GT 5, Modnation racers, more Home, FFXIV, and GOW 3.

And could have any of you ever thought at one point that most of the people here do indeed like PS3 more. AND if so, SO WHAT. You are just the minority. But you don't care do you, you have all them great games you fanboys are always talking about... oh wait.

But thats just it. You guys are all talk. Just like Microsoft.

*Edit*
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You know whats funny? You Xbox fanboys once proclamed that Exclusives were what made a console. NOW WHAT? Now that you guys don't have exclusives you guys NOW PROCLAME that "OHHH BUT THE SALES--THE SALES!" are what make a good console.

[MRMagoo123]

Jason ur an idiot thats all there is too it, the faster you get medication the better.Have you married ur 360 yet ? must be getting close to the date at least .maybe even some kids planned , i must warn you tho get life insurance cos when your missus(360 incase your too dumb to understand) dies (RROD or one of the many other 360 killers) you'll need money to raise ur kids and pay for the funeral.There are some crazy crazy fanboys on this site but i get the feeling you go beyond that and have tried slotting things in the 360 slots other than proper peripherals(if you know what i mean)

another thing i don't get is all the most rabid fans of either console are here on this site practically all day every day leaving comments about how amazing there choice is, but somehow have time to play all these games to comment on and bag or love , how do you guys manage it ?
OT. i don't care either way who won what but im just glad there are alot of games coming to my console of choice

[-x.Red.x-]

MS showed me MILO! and they WIN!!!

but
Sony showed ME GAMES

[saimcheeda]

is full of bots!!

[heroman711]

lol its always funny to hear people arguing about which console is better. Why does there have to be a right and wrong side? cant we just enjoy games? do you guys have nothing better to do in your lives than argue about which console is better? we have bigger problems in the world than "conniving" companies buying off exclusive games for their consoles.

[ak1200]

he PS3 is the third fastest selling console in history - only behind the Greatest console in history, the PS2, and the Wii.

The PS3 sold as many consoles worldwide as the 360 did in all of 2008 while being 200 dollars more expensive.

The PS3 has already kicked the 360 to last place in both Japan and Europe despite the 360 being out for an extra year in Japan and a year and a half in Europe.

Comeback? LOL! Whatever...

[Wvortices]

I was watching every post and article during E3 last week. Gamespot was actually the first site to declare Sony the winner. Its funny how they have changed there tune now. M$$$$$.

Too bad I don't have proof of this.

[8bitzombie]

WOW, gamespot says 360 is the clear winner, i'm shocked, they're totally unbiased...wait, no there not, don't they keep putting fake comparison vids where the PS3 always looks worst (like the wolverine one from like a month ago).

[Ps_alm3k]

How come they cut the part when the avatar do the twist dance..LOL
Also when they hide the fact that milo is just a dream (for now)...LOL
let truth be truth, don't hate! ; )

[Capital Dream]

the clear winner is Microsoft. Hands down

[General Jewels]

I Agree no one expected that did they? With sony fail E3 showing, whereas Microsoft Triple AAA showing won the show single handedly, it did indeed make the competition foolish.

[mrv321]

ALAW WAKE is not a 360 exclusive...

[bjornbear]

Nintendo WON!! =D

Oh and just to explain WHY U.S.A Media is overall more biased to MS (it isn't BS). Its simple : most U.S media on AVERAGE have more MS based stocks, this means shareholders. Shareholders have a certain amount of control over companies.

Some of these companies (i'm not saying all, but definately a good amount) get influenced by this. It isnt conspiracy theory It happens all over the place and all the time. Real news (CNN compared to Fox compared to BBC, none are RIGHT, they all vary).

This is very common (just as news sources in Japan probably more pro-sony, its logical = shareholders)...so this explains the whole "bias" people might be feeling.

However, its only in SOME cases, hell even can happen bias towards sony, or even nintendo. But it does occur, and knowing how sneaky MS is (ehm...greatest unlawful act penalty in HISTORY for monopolosing the market by the EU) it wouldn't surprise me, but all companies do this!

Just shut up and enjoy games.

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

According to PS3 fans - are Gamespot biased towards the 360 or not?

PS3 fans have seemed to say so before - when things werent going their way.

MGS4 gets reviewed by Gamespot and the PS3 fans then say that its a reputable site. - things are going their way.

MS gets the nod over Sony at E3 and suddenly Gamespot cant be trusted again!!!!

And ive seen this from PS3 fans numerous times too - Edge, Ign all recieve a bashing when the PS3 doesnt get marks that these fans want......but these sites are amazing when they do hand out good marks!!!

PS3 fans (not all,but some) - sort yourselves out.

[cmrbe]

but obviously i don't agree with them. TLG alone won the E3 for me. Natal is just another eyetoy. Most MS games announced we already knew and sequals.

[Kufi-]

mhh
PS3
God of war3
Trico,
Agent,
Final fanatsy XIV,
Uncharted 2
M.A.G
Gran Turismo 5

PSPgo
LBP
MGSP
Gran Turismo
Resident Evil

Those are all Exclusive, i really dont know why everybody think MS won. Ms is a big fail.they only have 1 console in busniess but Sony have PSP PS3 PS2 and they have to support all of them.

[saimcheeda]

Well said my friend! although u might wanna cal the M$!!

[Ron Zook]

wow i had no idea that an entertainment expo was actually a contest.. i thought it was just a show to publicize the latest and greatest tech everyone has. so did msft win a trophy or something?

[gumgum99]

that's what I thought as well.

I miss the days when "the games" were the things that mattered most in press confereces.

[gumgum99]

One company "winning" E3 is entirely subjective, and merely comes down to a common opinion. Popular sites, such as IGN, Gamespot and Cnet(to name a few), can't change that.

Its still an opinion, Even if its supported by a popular website.

[Socomer 1979]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I heard rumors that project natal or milo were never coming out.
Thanks gamespot for showing some ps3 games, oh wait you didnt.

[Figboy]

EyeToy ripoffs
Milo PR video
Multi-platform titles
movie services (i thought 360 owners bought 360's for GAMES, not movies)
and two worthwhile games releasing in 2009 (Splinter Cell and Halo: ODST)
Halo ODST live demo
Halo Reach Announcement
Splinter Cell live demo
Mass Effect 2 trailer
Alan Wake live demo
Twitter on 360 *cough*
Facebook on 360 *crickets chirp*
are enough to win Microsoft E3

but

An assload of PSP games (from Assassin's Creed, to Little Big Planet, to Fat Princess, to Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid: Peacewalker - written and directed by Hideo Kojima, unlike Rising - which i'm sure will be good also, etc)
Exclusive Rockstar North game Agent
Exclusive Final Fantasy XIV Online from Square Enix
Live Demo of exclusive MAG (256 players)
Live Demo of exclusive Uncharted 2
Live Demo of Assassin's Creed 2 (multi-platform game)
Live Demo and announcement of Mod Nation Racers
Impressively accurate PS3 Remote (Wii knock-off, but at least its offering 1:1 controls. something the Wii STILL doesn't seem to do)
gameplay trailer of exclusive The Last Guardian
Live demo of exclusive God of War 3
gameplay trailer of exclusive Gran Turismo 5

and what wasn't in the presentation, but was STILL at E3:

exclusive Demon Souls playable
exclusive White Knight Chronicles playable
exclusive Heavy Rain demoed to the press
exclusive Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time playable
exclusive Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 playable

but hey, E3 apparently isn't about games this year. it's about motion controls, Eyetoy impersonators, and 12 year old interactive boys.

keep moving that goal post, 360 fanboys.

the PS3 will NEVER be good enough in the eyes of the media this generation. that was set in stone YEARS ago, and no amount of games released on the console will ever change that.

Sony ROCKED E3 this year, and yet it wasn't enough. Microsoft did damn good too, despite my harshness above, but to say they outclassed Sony with one of the SLIMMEST game lineups they've EVER HAD at E3 is pathetic.

i thought it was pretty impressive that didn't really pimp movies and music at ALL during their E3 presentation, just showed off game after game after game after game, with a good 95% of them being exclusive, while Microsoft focused on movies, music, Facebook, Twitter, a grab for the casual market with Natal and Milo, and a smattering of games for the 360 that we've been waiting for for YEARS, and game hungry 360 owners salivate over them when they are finally shown, and, honestly, not as impressive as they were when they were first revealed. oh yeah, and don't forget the annual new Halo game announcement.

i'd be damn surprised if Microsoft can do an E3 without announcing another Halo. as much as the fans love that series, you don't want to oversaturate them with it. they'll burn out. now, a new Halo every 2 to 3 years would be something to crow about and get excited for. but how about releasing ODST first before announcing Reach, huh? that's as silly as Square revealing FFXIV before FFXIII (any of them), have been released yet, but at least FFXIV is an ONLINE game, and not another core Final Fantasy, like Halo: Reach will be another core Halo title, just like ODST is supposed to be another core Halo title.

yearly installments can hurt a series, just look at the PS2 Ratchet and Clanks. it got to the point where one a year was too much, but now that it's a new Ratchet every 2 years, it feels better, and the quality shows for it.

anyway, Playstation 3 fans know what E3 really was, because they have a LOT of games to look forward to, this year AND next year (this year: Fat Princess, Demon Souls, MAG, Ratchet and Clank Future: ACIT, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Uncharted 2; next year, Gran Turismo 5, White Knight Chronicles, Heavy Rain, FF vs XIII, FFXIV Online, The Last Guardian, God of War 3, and more)

360 fanboys (and i stress FANBOYS), have fun with Halo: ODST and Splinter Cell: Conviction this year, with Alan Wake, Mass Effect, Halo: Reach, and...um...WHAT ELSE is coming to the 360 next year, let alone this year?

this is the first time i've seen the company with the MOST games on display still LOSE an E3. hilarious. *rolls eyes*

where is that goal post again? it keeps moving and i seem to have lost sight of it...

[cmrbe]

Its just Gamespots opinion. I do agree with you 100% btw as i see excatly how you see things. Perhaps we are the ones that are crazy to think that games should dictate who should win. Perhaps features is more important than games this year but will change next year lol.

Never mind that these features like twitter and Facebook you could already access on the PS3 web browser or that Natal is just an enhance PS Eye. Its only earth shattering if MS announce them on the x360 lol!.

When Sony continues to push the boundries of gaming with its games or when they announce a price drop. All of this talk about who won what will be moot.

[Ron Zook]

you didn't need to type up a novel to defend anything. This is all just opinion, in the grand scheme of things, nobody cares, probably even the companies "competing" lol!

[Figboy]

i know, i know, it just irks me that the goal post keeps getting moved whenever Sony answers the latest rounds of complaints.

at first the PS3 was "too expensive." no longer the case
then it was the "PS3 has no games." just LOOK at the software lineup on the shelves, and coming soon.
then, it was PSN is "woefully inferior to LIVE." minus a feature or two, PSN is damn near EQUAL to LIVE.
then it was, "Killzone 2 will NEVER live up to the CGI trailer." we all know how THAT one turned out.
then it was the "PS3 has no games." (they're persistant with that one, so it keeps coming back every few months)
then it was the "PS3 is too expensive." (ditto)
then, apparently, it was "gameplay over graphics," until a game like inFAMOUS (inarguably the best looking sandbox game out right now) failed to look like Killzone 2, despite it being a large sandbox game.
then it was, "the PS3 is a Blu Ray player only." we also know how that one turned out.
then it was, "we bought the 360 to play GAMES, not watch movies." until Microsoft announces a plethora of multi-media and music features like Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, 1080p movies, etc.

hypocrisy and double standards.

it's decided by the media: they will NOT let the Playstation 3 win this generation. PERIOD.

the PS3 can do no right, even when it's announcing game after game after game from the 20 first party studios and 10 second party studios who are hard at work on PS3 exclusives (and we've only seen a FRACTION of the games they were working on), while the 360 can do no wrong.

watch. next up, it's going to be BAD for Sony to have so man first and second party developers, and GOOD that Microsoft only had 5 or 6 first AND second party studios. somehow, having LESS exclusives will be better than having MORE.

this has been one of the most retarded generations i've EVER experienced (and i've been gaming since 1985 and the NES). the bitter, sour grapes, spiteful behavior of, not the fanboys (that's expected), but the GAMING PRESS, is absolutely unreal.

Microsoft and Sony both did leagues better than the did last year, and leaks or not, the sheer number of announcements Sony had on display (to the point where they had to resort to video montages to highlight all the games, because they didn't have enough time to demo them all during the conference), puts them over Microsoft this year.

like i said it's amazing that the company that had the MOST to show this year that would be of interest to gamers (hint: GAMES) "lost" E3. amazing, amusing, and yet utterly predictable in this current state of gaming "coverage."

i also forgot to mention the Lost Planet 2 coming to PS3 confirmation during Sony's press conference. considering that it was one of Microsoft's "big exclusives" for next year, it's reveal as a multi-plat for the PS3 would have garnered more attention, right?

i mean, when Tekken 6 was revealed as multi-platform, that didn't go without quite a ruckus, and Tekken is barely as high profile as Lost Planet 2 these days.

[cmrbe]

Sony is just judge at a higher standard compare to others because they are the leading brand in gaming afterall. Whatever Sony does they are criticise and scrutinise much more that what others do. Its good in a way that this is the case because Sony works harder as a result.

Weather the gaming press gives Sony credit or not is really not important imo. I am sure Sony don't care that much about the gaming press but rather on weather they are hitting their proformance target and give use gamers the best gaming expereince.Sony knows that as long as they provide the best gaming experience they will always be alright. To me this is more important.

Already this year Sony has provided the best gaming lineup of the 3 console makers sofar and it will only get better later this year going into 2010 and beyond. This, in the end is what is really all about. Games. Not who won what, not who is the most popular with the media. No, its who have the best games. Thats it. If the media and haters fail to see this then so be it. I don't care. I rather have an exceptional game lineup than some show award.

[ak1200]

The PS3 is the third fastest selling console in history - only behind the Greatest console in history, the PS2, and the Wii.

The PS3 sold as many consoles worldwide as the 360 did in all of 2008 while being 200 dollars more expensive.

The PS3 has already kicked the 360 to last place in both Japan and Europe despite the 360 being out for an extra year in Japan and a year and a half in Europe.

[ape007]

sony and ms both had great confrences

ms showed lots of goods and so was sony

alan wake,gow3,uncharted 2,forza,gt5,the last gardian,convecion,mgs R for both,shadow complex,crackdown 2,ngs2 and others

I think both ms and sony motion have potential but still we all have to wait and see,especially natal tbh,cause it's in full 3D,but how accurate is it? and ps3 motion don't have analoge,that means it work for a very small number of games?

still,still we have to wait and see

however the HUGEE announcment that the media try to avoid is THE AGENT,hey guys, R* north is making this,everything R* north(YES NOOOORTHHHH OR DMA DESIGN) touches become gold,these scotish guys are indeed some of the best in the industry

and nintendo,super mario galaxy 2 looks crazy but I wish they build it on the next wii,new super mario bros is so good,great announcment

uncharted 2 was crazzy

[CivilArgument06]

In the previous gen, PS2 fans lauded their inferior in power and features system as the second coming, while the xbox with its exclusives splinter cell, halo, fable, mech assault, and others was attacked rabidly. Here is the deal, Halo 2 with its full online suite revolutionized console online gaming. In present day Microsoft's system is still a fine example of how good xbox live is. {end rant}

A lot of the PS3's current features like having a high profile network (psn), hard drive, trophies, clan making, matchmaking, were all pioneered by Microsoft on home consoles. What is pretty much happening is that 360 fans attacked first because they felt like they had been bashed to no end in the previous generation, then once the ps3 started building up steam, the ps3 fans started bashing back. its a vicious cycle, and once we realize that competition is good for innovation, this type of junk will cease.

[danielle007]

I thought that Sony had a decent showcase, but they basically showed off a wiimote for like half an hour, with a glowy ball at the end. I got bored, plus the scrub they had showing it couldn't even do it righttt. They had some ohkay games, but idk, I'm a tad biased, I admit it, buuuut, I get excited over Sony games if they loook ahmazing, like LBP last year and other junk. But, this year, I didn't get that excited.

360, though, it was just a great showcase. And you may mock Natal, but at least it wasn't a wiimote with a glowy ball at the end. And all those games announced, I'm so excited. Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, Halo nonsense, L4D2, and the MGS:Rising junk - Ik it's not exclusive, but at least it's heading towards the 360. And oh snap. They were the clear winner in my eyes. I was glued to my TV.

[Dick0]

maybe shane kim should babbysit ps3 owners and teach them how to use there brain

[saimcheeda]

LOSER!!

[MRMagoo123]

Maybe shane could teach you how to spell too or are all rabid 360 fanboys illiterate fools

[djroberts]

I can understand people saying MS won or Sony won but this whole "hands down" thing smells of XBot fanyboyism all the way.

MS was flashier with more marketing, Sony was more subtle with developers showcasing technology. Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I thought the Natal marketing hype was hilarious and perfectly targeted at 13 year old girls. For me, I prefer stuff like God of War III to "girl talk online", cough, I mean project Natal...

But hey, if smoke and mirrors, marketing and dresses are your things, have fun! Hopefully they'll have Alan Wake goes shopping for you by 2010 ;P

[Mr_Luke]

Well, we have to agree that MS did good, made good things, made mistakes too. But there's a thing they can't be forgiven: their fanboys. Really...
If they think to be so superior, they'd have to ignore stupid comments against the 360 or whatever, they got a new technology (i say they but i'm in those too, since i'll get it.. still i have some doubt tho) and instead of being happy FOR that.. the're happy for having something the others haven't (and here it's all to see, since now it's all "seen in a video", "heard from the guy").
Even if they couldn't care less about the technology, they'd shouth "Miracle!!" cause it's something the others didn't make/announced.
Ok, for E3, the tech winner is M$. The show winner could still be M$. But sorry, not the games/software winner, not at all.
Ppl complain about 9999 Marios and they don't say that Halo is coming out in 9999 sauces too? Why with Mario (king of the platform) is "another Mario bla bla" and with "Halo XXL: drop your pants 33 1/3" is "wow!!!!!!"?

I know i'll get million of disagrees and probably i'll be deleted or banned, but here ppl see only what they want to see. Someone won't never say that Natal is advanced and if it keeps the promises will be something new, like someone else won't never say that Uncharted2 was the game of the show.

So i'd say players (not fanboys) can admit that this was a great E3 and all the houses got the part of the winner, somehow.

[Yomiro]

I admit last year E3 was for microsoft but come on...this year was for Sony big time. It looks like microsoft tried to make an impact or surprise everybody like last year with that Metal gear announcement.

[SaberEdge]

Microsoft and Sony both had really good conferences. I just think Microsoft's was a little better because they had better games. And not just games that will come out eventually, but games that will mostly be coming out in the next 8 months. I'm sorry, but for my tastes Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Forza 3, Left 4 Dead 2, Crackdown 2, Halo ODST is a killer lineup.

Sony had some awesome games as well, like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, The Last Guardian, but other than those not much else interested me that much.

So, for me I enjoyed Microsoft's the most because of the games shown and because of the new dashboard/LIVE features and because I thought they had better surprise announcements.

[xdye017]

I agree Microsoft wins but Sony was real competition. This holiday till January is surely packed with exclusives.