Gamer Limit writes "Apart from the minor lag gripes and the excellent sound, MAG doesn't offer anything much more than large scale warfare."
That's the point of the game, idiot. Massive, Action, Game. What were you expecting? Cutscenes? Chocobo summons? Edit: I just watched the stage demo again. Personally, I think it looks fun and quite layered in it's strategy. The separate objectives and optional air-strikes are pretty cool. The commander/ grunt interaction is also really well done. Oh, and it looks great for a multi-player battleground. Not an easy feat. Did I mention that it will be FREE TO PLAY? Jesus, some people just aren't happy, I suppose. @syvergy. I did read the article in it's entirety. And I think you touched on the key issue there, it's HIS EXPERIENCE AND OPINION. What I've seen, with my eyes, tells a different story. Most of the games that I've loved this gen are easily hovering at the 80% or lower average on Metacritic (Lost Odyssey, Valkyria Chronicles), so it's evident that the "professionals" and I are usually well apart in our opinions. I'll reserve my final judgment until I play the game myself of course, but a preview is just another person's opinion, which is always to be taken with a grain of salt. Oh, and the article is written in that smarmy, pedantic way that I hate so much. Take it to Edge or Eurogamer, I say.
I agree completely.
Jeez. Settle down. He's played it, you haven't. He's not too impressed with it. Would you rather he lie like every other overzealous blogger and say its the best thing since Jesus? It might also be worth reading the actual article, rather then replying to the blurb.
Uh sverge he is is just glossing over the entire point of the game, makes him seem like a dumbass.
He wasn't glossing over anything. Just look at the other stuff the idiot has written. He knew perfectly well what he was trying to accomplish with this garbage. 64 player Resistance 2 was spun as "Sony showing off" Ratchet and Clank was marked down for "Too much variety" They tried to trash Killzone 2 for "Being pretty" They tried to trash MSG4 for "Being just a movie" Like so many people have said before, there really needs to be an opposite world where these punks in the gaming press get owned by themselves with reviews written if these same games had come out on a Microsoft console: 64 player Resistance 2 - Shows the amazing online capabilities 50 dollars a year gets you Ratchet and Clank - Amazing variety in gameplay found no where else Killzone 2 - CGI level graphics right in your living room MSG4 - Incredible blend of story telling and gameplay and graphics
WAIT!!! IS this guy the "too much variety" dumbass? It CANT be!!!!LOOOOOOOOOOOL OMG! This stupid is still pretending to be a gaming journalist? I guess the dumbass was expecting some gaylos falling down from the sky in a gaylo jump :D and some peww, peww after touching ground. @bellow You forgot the knife dude
You're wondering where this guy is coming from! "here is my summary: MAG is a standard first person shooter with a large amount of players segmented into small groups. There may be 256 people playing, and they affect the outcome of the game, but you won’t find more than thirty people (and that is a generous number) on your screen at one time." Wow, this has been said already a year ago. He sit down, grab a controller, and repeat what we have read about the game a year ago??? Good article : ) Sadly we won't learn much from it! You're truly wondering if he was really expecting to become Rambo, and shoot 128 other players coming at him on the same screen at the same time! A huge pile up of 128 players, one machine gun, and one bow...
The guy is a twat. Previews are supposed to be written explaining how a product works, how it is looking at the moment and which areas you hope are going to be improved (afterall, you are looking at a work in progress). Complaining about lag on a showroom floor is so stupid I am not even going there and calling a product 'meh' sums up his monkey-like skills. Eric Cartman syndrome. Having said that, this game is not really my cup of tea but I wish it every success :)
"IS this guy the "too much variety" dumbass?" My mistake, saying that he is doing the exact same thing. Everyone can imagine just what the headlines from idiots like him in the gaming media if Microsoft just demo a live 256 player FPS title.
He complained about it having nothing out of the ordinary for combat games, such as weapon packages and vehicles. I think he completely missed the point of the game. Not everyone wants mech robots, laser weapons, or similar halo-esque weapons in their online multiplayer game. In fact, I'd say inclusion of those type of weapons will only lead to huge imbalance issues considering it's 128 vs 128 and involving overpowered weaponry will only mean unnecessary reload screens for the unlucky people who didn't start with or find the uber weapons.
lol All the above are quite an overreaction considering the game is nothing more than ....meh!
This is the type of idiot that would give MAG a 7/10 because "it doesn't do anything new" (even though it does) but will give a game like Halo 3 or Call of Duty a 9/10 (which do absolutely nothing new, ever). Lol. These people are just ridiculous.
WATCH THIS. ITS SOOOO EPIC. Gamespot has done a nice job to show off MAG. Quality is bad but still its a good watch. http://e3.gamespot.com/vide...
All you guys above sweat Sony.
256 players !!! Only dumb blind people can't see that beauty
Did anyone else get the feeling that MAG was just a first-person-view/third-person -view /ground level RTS? Really, it's EXACTLY like an RTS, but instead of drones each member of you party is controlled by an actual human. They say its closer to an MMO but i think RTS fits better with it's squad leaders telling everyone what to do and tactically planning out how and where to strike next in a huge environment with battles/scrimmages lasting an hour long
This guy is a complete bum! He's been eating too much asparagus with white wine sauce.
I'm not 100% convinced on MAG just yet. But I'm 99% sure I'm going to buy it.
"Apart from the minor lag gripes and the excellent sound, MAG doesn't offer anything much more than large scale warfare." Its similiar to what I read but I didn't see that statement. I'm losing more and more respect for this site. Basicly nobody is allowed to critcize anything sony related without being biased. I guess I would be more inclined to believe them if the same people wouldn't instantly swear that negative 360 news from many of the same sites they previously ridiculed is automatically right when they say anything negative about microsoft/360. lol We all have opinions, its OK for me MAG was probably the least impressive game sony showed, I really think the effort/focus on "256" is taking away from the creativity that would have probably been the focus to make MAG standout in a crowded shooter market, and thats likely exactly why so far other than "256" so far it hasn't wowed anybody.
Yeah it's definitely written like he didn't care about the game in the first place. That goes for anyone....if you go into it hating on something, you're just gonna find something to hate about it. "Cool game but...hmmm...I think it slowed down to 59fps. I'm sure of it, my eyes are good...at least thats what my friends said so, this game is a flop. Face it fanboys, don't waste your money on this glitchy game...I mean dropping to 59fps? Sorry I'm not wasting my money on a $600 system to play Blu-ray movies and sneak around on missions." Why either both writing about it? "Heavy Rain Gameplay footage is… rainy." If Alan Wake was a PS3 exclusive he'd say "Alan Wake is....dark". Just lame.
I left an insulting comment on the site and it has been deleted this morning. He has now changed the text on his 'preview' as well, removing 'meh' from the title and changed points in the article it seems. Read it again now.
The point I see in MAG is that for the first time ever, we have a game on the consoles that rivals some of the largest PC titles online. Having 256 players online at the same time and doing battle on a single battle ground is rather significant in terms of console gaming. As I said, it seems the author missed the point of this game. If you can imagine the same level of gaming done in another universe, it could quite possibly even more awesome. We will have to wait and see what Sony does with this new net code. Could be pretty cool stuff.
I wanted a warzone and they promised a warzone. I'm overlooking "pretty good" graphics for gameplay. Everything else is secondary IMO. Edit : And that's all I want. A warzone with objectives,loads of people and a decent level of weapons and/or customisation. I don't need 3 million types of land sea and air vehicles or Killzone 2 graphics just addictive fun. As long as it isn't laggy on release this is a day one for me.
(not replying to you directly Dead Cell) Man all you judgmental fools piss me off. The game has one goal: Take the small / medium scale warfare you see already in games, and blow it up to an exponentially larger size. They've achieved that. Yeah so there's some lag issues...so what? There's plenty of time for them to iron out the kinks in their net code...don't worry about it. Judge a game based on what it sets out to do, not what you WANT it to set out to do. That's just selfish.
Agreed. Honestly, my only concerns are: 1) Lag: Sort it out. We don't need another SOCOM-esque disaster launch. 2) Basic Gameplay: Make the game play RIGHT. I don't need it to be KZ2 quality, but at least get close enough to COD4's level so we don't have to be torn between MW2 and MAG...
until i see 256 people in the same zone l'm calling it bogus. its only what 32(64) people per sector? all it does is update another sectors outcome to make you think mores going on. say my sector is completely taken over can i go to another to help out? haven't heard you can
Dude, it's one big map...you can go anywhere you like.
have you seen 256 people in the same area aka on screen? I know i haven't. unless you can interact with them its not 256
The E3 demo didn't really set the world alight. A big whoop when it became clear a full 256 person game was to be demo'd but then, well, a whole lot of not much really. Seems like the world just isn't ready for 256 people to try and play a real time action game together. Resistance did about as good a job as I've seen with larger numbers but all in all, it's not the number of players that makes the game fun. Over and above the the technical conquest of getting 256 people in a single PS3 game instance, I'm not sure this is looking particularly worthwhile. I'd love this to be a worthy SOCOM replacement but it doesn't look like it's there. r.
Planetside was prolly the first MMOFPS and that didn't offer much more than alot of FPS games out there the fact that the battles where so big and intense is what made it so good.. planetside was the best FPS experience ive ever had.. but i doubt MAG will have as many tanks and aircraft.. on the battlefield as planetside had.. but it should still be good.. Oh SOE stop supporting Everquest and SWG these games are soooo dead.. am not impressed by the agency either! they should make a Planetside 2!!! how i miss a collum of 30 tanks rolling down on a base! with 25 manned planes behind you!
exactly i love planet side. the scale really makes difference. even though there were some balance problem. god why they dont make a sequel? DC universe my a$$...
... if developers actually look at what the competition has done or previous games. Planetside should have been a guide for Zipper as well as PC Battlefield2. Frack, Warhawk2 with 256 players, squad & class system, sprint & roll function would completely rule all MMOs on a console and seriously challenge PC MMOs.
Planetside was great. Killing Sporkfire tons of times was even more fun :p The problem, though? It was a game way ahead of its time and didn't sell well since it wasn't your typical P2P FPS and most FPS players were weary of SOE and their subscription fees. Now with online gaming prevalent on the consoles, it would be the perfect time to see a Planetside 2 one the PS3.
Gamers really have double standards these days. If MW2 comes out as a normal FPS with nothing special at all,gamers will think it's amazing and impressive. If MAG comes out as a similar FPS to MW2 but with a much larger scale of battle and more content,people will still call it generic and disappointing.
MAG is the only real FPS that has caught my attention since planetside.. this reminds me alot of planetside.. 3 factions fighting for bases and land.. planetside maps where alot bigger though i think.. ive wanted MAG since i heard about it cos its the only game that can come close to the planetside experiance.
Told you this will be MEh, WKC next year? OMG From "year of PS3" to "year of delay PS3". First HR now WKC delayed? Either way even if mag was great, still don't care, just another shooter aka Planetside.
The PS3 has the best exclusives...this year and after....while the 360 has Natal and Milo (I hear it's the [email protected] version of Hansel and Gretel)....and Halo ODST, Halo Reach, probably some Halo RPG in the future, and Halo Lips (when's this one going to be announced?)... Well that's all MS is....just bullsh!t and Halo (which is bullsh!t in itself too)....
You could say this about every shooter. He really didn't go into a lot of detail on why he though it was 'meh', not to mention, what self respecting journalist uses the term 'meh' in the first place!?
You can sit in this room and say what you want about M.A.G.The game is bringing something new to online play.You dont need these super top notch graphics to have fun.You guys can just go back to your typical COD games and do the same thing over and over.MWF2 lacks a hell of alot more then gameplay and its lackluster graphics.It looks like any other cod game to me right now.im bored from these type of games.Its nice to see something more intense and more exhilarating.You guys who ae negative are the typical generic fps player who will never open your eyes to something different.There is so much going on in the game that you are always going to be on the tip of our toes.thank you zipper for bringing something new to our lives.I dont know much about planetside but sounds like fun but we are in the now and not in the then.
Ok, i saw MAG and i'm not a big fan of the game, i don't like it so much (like i don't like many others, still knowing they're masterpieces). But... "...MAG doesn't offer anything much more than large scale warfare." Wasn't that the goal of the game? The large scale warfare? He was expecting that the game washed his pants maybe, cooked for him or maybe a sort of Hanna Montana and The big Gun (everyone knows she likes that)?
For a big budget game to be great it needs to be able to offer more then just one thing
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The 360 line-up grows. Hell, who knows if the PS3 games make it alive this holiday season with the reviews and all
What X360 line-up? lol
He probably counting exclusive burger king games, if so then yeah it's growing lol.
You know how it is, if there is anyone to rag on it's Sony. Nintendo's games look ugly from the start and look average when they come out. Microsoft and Nintendo make the same game every year and Nintendo is being left out of so many games(e.g. Street Fighter, Fallout 3, Metal Gear Solid, Batman AA,most shooters etc.) Sony tries to do some thing new with 256 players and make it work and people just put them down. If I know gamers, if Microsoft had announced a game like this Xbots would be here bragging and bragging about the number of players they have for their new game. I think that is the problem with Sony gamers. You are not proud of what you have. Don't play Sony games while looking over your shoulder at what Microsoft is doing or what Nintendo is doing. We have some killer exclusives coming our way and many of the games coming for the Xbox 360. So be proud.
I think for the most part, Sony gamers are proud. But lets be honest, there are so many first party games and so many big titles from every genre, and anyone with a life has a finite amount of money and time. I am looking forward to MAG but I can not put it in my MUST buy list as there are other titles like Demon Soul, WKC, The Last Guardian, GT5 etc I rather buy first.
Proud we are, fandroids not are we. PS3 gamers come in many forms, from casual to hard core. However most of us are moderate gamers. We have our hardcore moments for games like KZ2 & Infamous, and our casual sides for Flower and LBP. We are gamers who enjoy the good Sony does and will call em out when they drop the ball. Yea we stand by Sony as needed, but to be honest, we are gamers first, fans second. MAG is setting the bar high for what console games can do. Most gamers know that in order to achieve the number of players interacting in an orderly way, certain things must happen. 1. Thus we don't expect KZ2/UC2 graphics 2. We don't expect more than 32 vs 32 at one time (lag is a common enemy of course) 3. We do expect the fire fights to be close quarters tactical strikes 4. We do expect more strategy and teamwork than every previous shooter (even SOCOM:C) If MAG delivers on these points, I will be 100% satisfied with my pre-order purchase.
Which I believe goes hand-in-hand with large scale warfare. I mean seriously, what the F*ck where Gamer Limit expecting? Zombies? MMO-style level-building? Master Chief? LOL, yeah I bet thats the only real problem they had with the game! BTW the person who wrote this preview also felt the need to deduct points from Ratchet & Clack: ToD for "having too much variety", so take this preview as you would take a giant turd sitting in your refrigerator.
syvergy - There's no proof jesus existed. On that note. I'll wait till there's a demo or i see alot more of the game.
1. Did Abraham Lincoln Exist? Or what about Caesar? If they didn't exist then their Legacy, good or bad, is a fraud and no motivation exists to spurn the events of their time. Since their acts can be traced to the time of their supposed existence, it gives credence that the events that surround the accounts of eye-witnesses are valid. If the Messiah didn't exist, then the actions of those eye-witnesses were spurned off of a fraud; but since the accounts are so unified in the events, it stands to reason that The Messiah existed. 2. Not only does the Old Testament predicted the Messiah's arrival, but various accounts from the Apostles gave accounts of his life; on top of that, Josephus (an extra-biblical source) chronicled the Messiah in his own account of Israel in the time of Christ. And all three groups of books (Old Testament, New Testament, Accounts of Josephus) told of multiple events and items that were discovered by the accounts of those who written the books from the location of Sodom and Gomorrah, http://www.arkdiscovery.com... to the fact that giant human-like footprints are found side-by-side dinosaur footprints (The Torah says that there were Giants in the Earth in the earlier days of it's existence) http://www.bible.ca/tracks/... Weird human-like skulls, (they aren't aliens) http://www.puppstheories.co... The "mini Grand Canyon" that formed within days when scientists said striated rock formations took millions of years http://www.creationism.org/... and items that showed atomically-correct dinosaurs, down to the skin they had (called Ica stones). http://images.google.com/im... Or the stegosaurus on Angkor Wat, even though they were supposed to be extinct, AND it is atomically correct to the point that scientists corrected themselves and their model looks like the model on Angkor Wat: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/... Chernobyl in the Book of revelations, and why it was indeed wormwood: (more than an hour long) http://video.google.com/vid...
its a secular account from the Roman empire that documented many things such as people who were executed (a la, jesus.) the tacticus refers to jesus as christo since, "thats what his followers called him." also you should read other secular accounts such as josephus and flauvius. there is definitely evidence that jesus existed so in respect, you should research before you speak. as for believing in him as savior, thats a whole other story.
all that talk proves nothing. You know in your heart there's no proof of some higher being. When you say you "know" its true, really you are just hoping. Believe in your self, your family and your friends. Not in the make believe people. Silly zealots.
Actually, there still no proof Jesus existed. Comparing it to Lincoln and Julio Caesar is just stupid, it's widely related. And you don't have a clue how worthless is quoting this sites, or would you agree if I prove my point by quoting atheist.com? LOL And footprints of dinossaur and giant man... Come on... There is a giant hominid on the fossil register, but it had nothing to do with dinossaurs or modern man. About the secular text. Discovery Channel had a good program on that, where they showed how that Christo in the translated versions shouldn't be there, it wasn't the name in the list, it comes from a sequence of mistranslations because of differences in fonetics and alfabet structure. Which just proves we can see whatever we want to in those texts. That said, I'm pretty sure Jesus (as one guy or as a myth based many people acts of this era) has some historical value. And just to point, should we really discuss it instead of games?
so you know with 100% irrefutable evidence that a god doesn't exist? i was just talking about jesus and his historical accounts (to the other guy mentioning christos eytmology, there is a lot more to it than what you just said.) i'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone of anything, but there's no possible way to say god doesn't exist. prove every religion and you still couldn't prove either wise. ultimately, ahteism is a form of agnosticism because no one can no for sure that god does or doesn't exist.
I knew it. This game is going to disappoint. Zipper should have made it like Socom. Respawn = Fail FPS = Fail
Because we ALL know how good Confrontation was.
thats the point of MAG=MASSIVE ACTION GAME, i don't give a damn i'm still buying it day 1 cuz i know wat to expect and i like the E3 sony conference they showed on it it looks good.
WOW gamer limit a ps3fanboy site said MAG is Meh wow.
"meh" that describes my reaction to this game since it was announced. The only thing eye popping about it is the player count on consoles. I've read on more than one occasion the complaints from PC gamers on games with high player counts. I guess we will see if MAG can be the exception to all the problems that these games present. The MAG demo sure seemed like everyone needed to be on point and know wtf they are doing. That just doesn't happen in the practical world and how will these matches go if it turns into a free for all?
I'm cautiously optimistic. The Battlefield series of games are quite possibily the funnest games I've ever played, and they have a relatively high player count. If they do this right, it'll be a massive success.
When it was announced last year I didn't really bat an eye. Now seeing it in motion, it does look kind of cool. In my humble opinion this could either go really well, or really bad. We're going to have to wait until the game launches before we can be that judgment though.
PlanetSide did 500 players FPS on a planet during 56k dail up with no lag. It was quite good game, by Sony Online Enterainment. PRoblem was its learning curve is uber steep
After seeing the gameplay, it has flop written all over it.
I am actually looking forward to this game. I would like to see how it's set up with the squads of 8. But i like all those strategy FPS games like GRAW, Operation Flashpoint, Socom...etc so i guess i am a bit bias. I think the this guy is a little too critical but he is entitled to his own opinion.
I love how everyone is bashing this guy for stating the opinion of a game that none of you have yet to play. Seriously, for all you know this game could suck. Just cause it has a ton of players doesn't mean it will be good...